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UN lets Zimbabwe of the hook



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Published Date: 12 July 2008
A draft resolution to impose sanctions on Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe and a number of his key allies has been vetoed at the UN Security Council
.

Foreign Secretary David Miliband last night branded as "incomprehensible" the rejection of international sanctions against Zimbabwe at the United Nations Security Council.

Mr Miliband said he was "very disappointed" after a draft resolution t
o impose an arms embargo on Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe and 13 of his key allies was rejected by Russia and China.

The proposed measures included a freeze on their financial assets and travel.

Despite growing international criticism of Zimbabwe since the re-election of Mr Mugabe in a run-off boycotted by the opposition, Russia's ambassador Vitaly Churkin said sanctions would have taken the UN beyond its mandate.

But Mr Miliband said people in the beleaguered African state would find the result of the vote in the United Nations Security Council "incomprehensible".

He said: "I am very disappointed that the UN Security Council should have failed to pass a strong and clear resolution on Zimbabwe.

"In particular, it will appear incomprehensible to the people of Zimbabwe that Russia, which committed itself at the G8 only a few days ago to take further steps including introducing financial and other sanctions, should today stand in the way of timely and decisive security council action.

"Nor will they understand the Chinese vote."

Sir John Sawers, the UK ambassador to the UN, also condemned the result and said after the vote that the UN had failed in its duty.

"The people of Zimbabwe need to be given hope that there is an end in sight to their suffering," he said.

"The Security Council today has failed to offer them that hope."

He added: "We view their decisions as deeply damaging to the long-term interests of Zimbabwe's people.

"It has, in our view, harmed the prospects for bringing to an early end the violence and the oppression in Zimbabwe."

Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Edward Davey denounced the "cynical" behaviour of Moscow and Beijing.

"The real losers at the UN are the oppressed people of Zimbabwe," he said.

"It is Mugabe and his thugs who are celebrating these cynical vetoes.

"China and Russia have done themselves serious damage which only compounds their own poor records on human rights."

The vote is a particular blow for Gordon Brown, who thought he had gained sufficient backing for a security council resolution imposing sanctions at this week's G8 summit in Japan, attended by both Russia and China.

Western powers mustered nine votes, the minimum needed to gain approval in the 15-nation United Nations Security Council.

But the resolution failed because of the action by Russia and China, two of the five veto-wielding members.

The other three members with veto power, the US, Britain and France, argued sanctions were needed to respond to the violence and intimidation linked to Zimbabwe's recent, widely discredited presidential election.

However, African nations have voiced concerns that harsh punishment of Mugabe could derail a political solution and push Zimbabwe's economy deeper into crisis.

Wilf Mbanga - Russia and China have let us down – but I blame South Africa

WE HAVE been let down badly by Russia and China.

But I blame South Africa's president, Thabo Mbeki, for this. Somehow he is getting support to shield Mugabe from international censure.

He is the one who swung the vote at the Sharm-El-Sheikh summit last week, when the African Union did not ostracise President Mugabe but instead called on him and the Movement for Democratic Change to enter talks to establish a government of national unity.

In so doing, they implicitly confirmed his legitimacy as the head of state. This allows Russia to listen when Mbeki resolutely asserts that there is no crisis in Zimbabwe. And the world goes along with it even though Mbeki's own party, the African National Congress, is distancing itself from his position.

It makes a mockery of his eight years of "quiet diplomacy" in Zimbabwe on behalf of the African Union and the Southern African Development Community.

The Russian and Chinese governments should be siding with the people of Zimbabwe rather than a dictator.

This compliance will allow Mugabe to continue murdering people with impunity and the world will just wring its hands and say "we tried".

In the same way, it will allow Mugabe to portray the situation as a bilateral problem between Zimbabwe and Britain, but it is nothing to do with that.

People are suffering at the hands of the Mugabe regime.

Now the beatings and murders will continue on a daily basis.

People are being tortured while the world is trying to say this is unacceptable behaviour.

We print the Zimbabwe in South Africa before getting the papers to Zimbabwe each week, but the Mugabe regime physically attacks us.

Soldiers set our truck on fire three weeks ago, with 60,000 copies in it. They beat up the driver very badly.

They try to cripple us financially, by imposing a 20 per cent duty on us. For June alone, we had to pay £37,000 in tax.

There must be more diplomatic pressure. The European Union must take unilateral action – they do not have to wait until they get permission from the UN.

Mugabe has to be stopped, the world cannot just watch this happening.

What does it take before he is removed? Half a million people murdered?

The generals have promised Mugabe they will annihilate all the leaders of Morgan Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change by the end of this year.

Are we waiting for that to happen? Do we wait until they are all dead, or stop him now?

• Wilf Mbanga is editor of the Zimbabwean newspaper. He is based in the UK.





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1

SouthernGent,

12/07/2008 00:09:55
Russia and China have now given the green light for the civil war to begin, and the UN can debate it for another ???? years until countless more have been beaten and murdered. I wonder if the ones that will die will really care if it threatens world security?
2

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 12/07/2008 00:36:16
I, Southern Gent. "Let them eat sh!t" as far as the UN is concerned. Why do we bother with the UN?

Civil war it is then -hoorahe, come on the MDC.
3

2dogs in D.C.,

12/07/2008 00:42:48
Ay-Yi-Yi, And so it begins again. And again, and ....
4

Silence of the Yams,

12/07/2008 00:56:29
African wars are good for business in commie land.
5

SouthernGent,

12/07/2008 01:48:51
Funny how this article was originally titled "Russia and China veto sanctions against Zimbabwe", and was changed while Scotland was sleeping. Wonder if this post will be here when I wake.
6

respectcostsnowt,

12/07/2008 02:30:20
since when have CHINA and RUSSIA cared about people
dying !!!!. just a thought.
7

postmark55,

Chongqing, China, 12/07/2008 03:11:36
As I've said so many times before, China stays at home and keeps its house in order. Let Africa sort out its own problems, China's interference or anybody else's will only make an already horrible situation worse. I hope that eventually the UK and the USA will learn from China's policies, it would make the world a much better place to live.
Strangely enough it is we the Communists that have to show you the Democrats how things need to be done.
8

Matt there,

somewhere 12/07/2008 03:24:59
China stays at home and keeps its house in order?

Does it really? Like Tibet, like it's many client regimens?

Do us a favour!
9

carrottop,

on hols 12/07/2008 03:33:20
How can China be allowed to vote on an issue that they have been instrumental in causing, the sanctions should be against them and held in place until they stop their global trouble making.
10

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA Obama smoke n mirrors..McCain is Bush 12/07/2008 03:35:30
7 postmark55,Chongqing, China,

I hope that eventually the UK and the USA will learn from China's policies, it would make the world a much better place to live.

----------------------
Hey Dude,
OH YEH.

Like, take away an individuals right to vote . to free speech, to protest, etc etc .

1.3 billion Chinese not allowed to choose their Government . not allow to vote . not allowed to protest in public. not allowed freedom of speech , have their Web sites shut down.

Eat dogs and cats and any four legged creatures. And outside the show cities of Shanghai and Beijing plus a few others. You will find 400 to 600 million Chinese living in near abject poverty .

China is now mass producing mobile execution vehicles and switching for execution by bullet into back of head, to leathal injections.

Execute roughly 15,000 Chinese citizens each year . CCP will not release execution figures.

Forced abortions done on between 11 million and 15 million Chinese women each year.

OH YEH we need to be like your CCP tyrants .

I don't think so Dude.

GC

11

Mashimaro,

China 12/07/2008 06:00:40


check... mate
12

spiderman,

argyll 12/07/2008 07:09:20
2 "f"s in "off" in the title. One for China and one for Russia.
13

Let's have the truth,

Pretty much anywhere 12/07/2008 08:01:14
It is understandable for the man in the street to wish the likes of Mugabe and his henchmen their cummuppance but I think Russia and China were correct in vetoing sanctions against Zimbabwe as they would have precipitated civil war sooner rather than later.

You people who condemn Russia and China are failing to see further than your noses.

With inflation doubling prices every week and sometimes every day, the damage to the average Zimbabwean would be horrific.

It's time for some of you people to start to think before you act.

14

Foresight,

By the Water of Leith 12/07/2008 08:13:06

In protest Gordon Brown should boycott the Beiging Olympics.
15

billengland,

12/07/2008 08:14:03
As the USA credibility and economy weakens, China and Russia are taking over as major world powers.

Nothing will happen without their say-so, from now on in.

We will regret having allowed Bush and Blair to destroy our countries for their own personal gain.
16

Let's have the truth,

Near enough 12/07/2008 08:15:39
#14

"Foresight" is not an apt name for you. You are evidently one who cannot see further than your nose.
17

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 08:23:09
It is unbelievable what politicians can get away with. China is a communist nation with an attrocious human rights record against her own people. Russia has its roots steeped in communism and also boasts a horrific human rights record against its own people. South Africa maybe a democratic society, but that is only until the ANC has it's power challeneged, then they to will resort to Mugabe like tactics. The ANC is a communist party, funded by Russia during the cold war and the apartheid years she panders to the communist ideoligies and her members to this day call eachother commrade.
The ANC called for international support during apartheid, which is nothing by comparison to what is happening in Zimbabwe. Wouldnt it be good if the UN had decided, sorry ANC, we feel that the NP apartheid government should be permitted to carry on governing as they are not a threat to world peace and interfering would be wrong. Imagine that? Aye right!
China, Russian and South Africa are communist thinking leaderships with no compassion. The only difference between the three is that Russian and China are able to advance and build technologies within peaceful soceities, whereas the ANC are incapable of advancement, incompetent and out of their depth in the modern world.
Mugabe the killer remains in power, but I am hoping a wee bullet finds his head soon.
18

sam the god,

12/07/2008 09:17:26
Russia and china have a vested interest in Zimbabwe as they both produce the AK47 (Kalashnikov) this is the main stay weapon in most civil wars around the world as they are easy to produce cheap and need very little to keep them in good working order
19

bluehead,

edinburgh 12/07/2008 09:20:14
that's the price that has to be payed for all this togetherness,when large numbers of people or nations
join together,there can only be one conclusion,and that is never ending trouble,
20

Pilrig.,

Livingston 12/07/2008 09:34:38
14 - he's not going to the opening ceremony (he has 'other appointments' to keep.) But Macavity may drop by later in the Games.
21

Erchie Broon,

12/07/2008 10:08:45
#17 Media 1
Some of your comment I agree with but when you state South Africa is a democracy then you have lost the plot.You need to look at the history of individuals within the ANC from Mandela down and you will find they are all puppets of Russia.Mbeki is a rabid Communist who attacks the West at every opportunity.South Africa is no friend of the West unless it is filling up their begging bowl and particularly that of Mandela and his fake charity.It is time the UK and the West took a new view on the ANC Government that they installed in 1994.It is a repeat of the mistake they made with Mugabe and early intervention is required. They can start with a ban on foreign investment in South Africa,stop all financial aid (US$700 million last year),restrict travel by their citizens by imposing stronger tests for visas,boycott the World Cup and let their investment go down the tubes etc.Who gives a stuff about a communist beggar who pretends to be a friend but in reality is an enemy.
22

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 10:46:51
Erchie Broon

As I stated in my post at #17. South Africa is a democracy until the ANC power is challenged. By that I mean that we reside within a system that adheres to the laws of democracy but only because there is no real opposition. As soon as the ANC power is challenged there will be a civil war here because Africans cannot adhere to any sort of responsible governance. They inherently gravitate toward chaos, 48 out of 52 countries is a shocking indictment of their continued failure.
I agree with you in terms of the ANC and their communist roots. I also agree that the world cup should be boycotted, but not because of Mbeki's support of the savage Mugabe, but because the ANC are in breech of the Olympic Charter in terms of their quota system in sport. Black players must be representative of all sports teams regardless of their talent. In the old days we were banned for such tactics, why not now? Also, this is the most violent nation in the world and innocent fans WILL be murdered in their droves when 2010 comes around. Typically, the powers that be tell us that the security and the policing will be so good that nobody will be murdered. But again, as is always the case in Africa, they want to be judged on untested future thumbsucks as opposed to on what is happening as we speak. Crime is out of control, our ANC leaders are corrupt to the core (most of them that is)and our country is going to the dogs.
But since we just pumped the All Blacks today, I dont care! F#kc Mbeki and his croonies!
23

Mashimaro,

China 12/07/2008 11:02:43
Democracy puts the lowest common denominator in power


It's time you whities learned that you're beaten in Africa, go home.
24

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 11:35:56
Mashimaro

Problem is this! White people dont suffer, at least not in the manner that the black masses suffer. Suffering is behind us thanks to our ancestors remarkable efforts in technology and advancement. So the problem with your statement is this, white are not beaten in Africa, BLACKS are beaten (literally) in Africa. At the end of the day, I am passionate about South Africa, but as a white person I am able to leave here for white societies in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada etc for a quality life, whereas most black Africans are stranded here and at the mercy of the dictator monsters.
So no real worries for whites, its the blacks that we are trying to save, whites can take care of themselves as we know.
25

Itchy,

12/07/2008 11:36:31
#23 a racist and a supporter of dictatorship.

"Foreign Secretary David Miliband last night branded as "incomprehensible"" Not incomprehensible at all.

Russia still has commie leanings and China is still communist and they both support a Marxist-Leninist.

BTW 23, tell us about the 'Great Leap Forward', why don't you?
26

Neil,

Glasgow 12/07/2008 11:45:17
Russia & China are absolutely right.

The UN Charter guarantees national sovereignty. The attempt to introduce sanctions is under the section of the charter which allows such sanctions specificly where there is a military threat to neighbours. There is no such threat & indeed Zimbabwe would have about as much capability to do so as Cuba has to invade the USA.

It is yet another instance of the NATO powers destroying what remains of the rule of law. Without law there cannot be peace & freedom & China & Russia are to be commended for upholding it.
27

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/07/2008 11:46:45
Is the United Nations of any use any more? These latest shenanigans just show that two "rogue" countries - China and Russia - can make the UN look ineffectual and foolish and shorsighted.

Mbeki of South Africa should be declared an "enemy of the people" of that country and a force for evil in Africa. What a useless waste of space he is.
28

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 11:49:05
The word racist is only employed by people who cannot get out of the corner they found themselves in.
The race card is easy to play, in fact it is now known as the " Tribal Wild Card" able to be played at any time in order to avoid a proper grilling about centuries of failure.
I dont care if you are black, white, yellow or blue. All I care about is that you behave in a manner that can be considered acceptable. And when 48 nations out of 52 gravitate toward chaos and utter devastation and three of the other four teeter on the brink of total meltdown, then you need to ask a few questions.
I do think it is time for white nations to turn their back on Africa, but it wont happen because they are too advanced to turn a blind eye.
29

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 11:58:58
mashimaro

Any chance you can point me in the direction of a "gutral spitting coach"
I am thinking of visiting China for the olympics and I want to fit in with the locals.
30

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 12:06:18
But back to the story at hand!
Yes it would be good to see Mugabe hang and he just might, a week is a long time in politics so he is not off the hook yet.
But one thing that is certain is this! Following the demise of the clown Mugabe, Zimbabwe will open her arms wide and Britain and America and other nations will flood in and take advantage of the investment opportunities. Mugabe's name will be removed from every text book, every building and street not to mention every political document. His name will be placed in a political trash can and the people he failed to look after will flourish under British, American and European investment. Sure the government officials will eventually turn it back into a nightmare again along with their Chinese counterparts, but not before the people have enjoyed a good 20 years of hope.
31

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/07/2008 12:16:00
Mashimaro

HOW DARE you call us Caucasians "whities".

Now we know what an ignorant racist you truly are.

You are a disgrace to your race.
32

danbob,

12/07/2008 12:46:20
It's rather ironic that the people who know the reality of what is going on in Africa, post from Africa. People like Media 1. As for the rest are we being blinded by prejudace and the white is best mentality?
33

Media 1,

cape town 12/07/2008 12:52:28
danbob

It has nothing to do with white and black, it has to do with what it right and what is wrong, and it just so happens that white societies are better run than black one.
You dont need to be a rocket scientist to see the differences in African run nations by comparison to European run nations. There is a massive difference, I have been to a lot of places throughout this continent and it's disturbing to say the least.
I mean, just simple things like running water cannot be managed properly. Systems dont work, even the most simple tasks cannot be executed properly, it is mind boggling, but mostly frustrating.
I cant explain it, you need to live this continent to realise how primitive it is.
34

Edward,

12/07/2008 13:47:44
#7 postmark55,Chongqing, China
If only the reasons behind the last minute veto by both Russia and China were based on brotherly love fo rtheir comrades in Zimbabwe
The real reason, which has so far eluded the brodcast media, is the fact that the Zimbabwe regime are planning to buy two widebody passenger aircraft and three freighters,an order has been placed with - Russia! for one Ilyushin Il-96-300 and two Il-96-300F's
Apparently aimed at being in service for the 2010 World Cup in next door South Africa
The Zimbabw regime is also considering the purchase of the Chinese ARJ31-900 regional jets.
It beggers belief that the UK government are not onto this. It also beggers beleif that a regime that cant feed its people and has hyper inflation, can find the money for new aircraft for its airline. an airline that only flies for the benifit of the members of the Zany PF and regime in general
35

Edward,

12/07/2008 13:49:14
#26 Neil,Glasgow
What a difference an aircraft order makes
36

Dougie, Edinburgh,

12/07/2008 14:10:58
24 Media 1,cape town
It's all right for you personally to write you can leave South Africa anytime for white countries however most of your fellow white South Africans don't have this luxury. Rejected by their ancestral homelands, those without internationally desirable skills are stuck in a country where they're suffering from legalised educational and economic discrimination and at risk from future genocidal violence.
37

Dougie, Edinburgh,

12/07/2008 14:11:12
To me, it is a matter of black and white. In traditionally white countries, we bend over backwards for black immigrants. Our press is too polite to mention their extreme overrepresentation in violence and crime, their negligible economic contribution, the burden they place on social infrastructure of all kinds from social welfare to hospitals to prisons. Our politicians pass all manor of legislation to favour them at our expense. Yet in South Africa, white people are subject not only to widespread and debilitating legalised discrimination but also racially motivated violence. And in Zimbabwe have actually been murdered and terrorised to such an extent that they've all but left the country.
38

Dougie, Edinburgh,

12/07/2008 14:14:19
32 danbob,12/07/2008
If white isn't best perhaps you'd like to explain to me how the City of Edinburgh alone has contributed far far more to technological progress and human thought than the entirety of black Africa with more than a thousand times the population?
39

Dougie, Edinburgh,

12/07/2008 14:14:40
Also, perhaps you'd like to consider that while black people will risk their lives to leave black run countries to get into white run countries, the only white people who go to black run countries are charity workers or peacekeepers
40

Dougie, Edinburgh,

12/07/2008 14:23:11
23 Mashimaro,China
We often hear the call from the likes of the ANC and Mugabe that the whites should all leave Africa (including the Boers who have been there four hundred years). But how would you view a call for the Africans and the Chinese to leave Europe?
41

Tris,

12/07/2008 14:46:46
So why did our esteemed leader stand there telling us that everyone agreed with Britainandamerican at the G8?

Did he not understand what had happened; that nine-course dinner put him to sleep?

Or was is because the Labour Party of Great Britain is so completely honest that they couldn't begin to imagine that the Russians were lying?

That's the trouble with having such an honest, decent prime minister.... unable to contemplate deception....or corruption....
42

Tris,

12/07/2008 14:48:57


#39

.... or Barclays Bank, or Anglo American Corporation, etc, etc, etc, etc, who like to "do business" there.

Don't talk rot.
43

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12/07/2008 15:01:16
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 12/07/2008 16:16:15
It makes you wonder how truely naive some of the people in the political establishment are about the Chinese and Russians decision to use there veto to protect Bob Mugabe.

The expressions of shock by Milbrand shows what a political lightweight he truly is.

When the vote comes down to sanctioning a country for human rights abuses naturally 2 of the worlds greatest perpetrators veto it. Why is that a surprise?

Time to start treating both regimes as what they are, enemies of the free world. This talk of partnership and a "Peacful Rise" is a joke.

The future will be a struggle between the free world and the forces of darkness over the worlds natural resources. Africa is a notoriously dangerous place. Guerilla armies seem to pop out of nowhere. Time to start f*cking with China's African investments.

Maybe the Americans should let the Saudi's know that they wont do anthing if the Saudi's chose to provide covert aid to their Uigher brothers fighting the fascist Chinese.

It is time to take the gloves off.
45

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 12/07/2008 16:30:54
Hi Skidmark and Mushi,

It is good to see our favorite Commie bozo's posting again.

There is a couple stories that have been carried in the "biased" Western Media lately and I was wondering if their was any coverage in China.

The first one was about a riot by people in Guizhou after a young girl was raped and murdered by a high ranking local CCP official.

The other was the parents of children killed in the earthquake being hauled off to reeducation camps because the had the temerity to ask way all the schools collapsed like matchsticks while all the buildings around them remained standing.

Is it true that the death toll would be less than half what it was if you corrupt Commies had not substituted sand for cement in your school construction?
46

Black Beard,

12/07/2008 16:30:59
7 Much better for everyone, unless you live in Zim, of course.
47

Biker,

Ayr 12/07/2008 16:45:28
As I have said countles times before, its time the UN was overhauled and the stupid "veto" option was removed. Both China and Russia should be disgraced publicly for their open support of Mugabe. M,beke needs to be taken to Zimbabwe and shown exactly what he is supporting.
Postmark. So you suggest that we should all but out and let them sort it out for themselves> perhaps you remember the killing and rape that occured in Rwanda? Well there is more of the same if others stand back. Its perhaps a touch hypocritical of Chinese to suggest that we leave well alone, given the support being shown by them.
48

Neil,

Glasgow 12/07/2008 17:18:12
The general attitude seems to be that Africa is poor (though its economy is growing faster than Europe's) so that makes it allright for us to bomb them.

That China & Russia must be doing this for the money, despite the fact that they have respected the rule of international law consistently (just as we have opposed it with slightly less consistency).

That the Chinese media must be biased if they haven't heavily publicised one rape whereas ours, which is complicit in creating mass graves, kidnaping schoolgirls to sell to brothels & kidnapping & dissecting hundreds of racially inconvenient tenns to sell their organs to the NHS is an example of the sort of journalism the rest of the world should have (forced on them if necessary).

That being British we should just bomb flatten & generally destroy any country whose elections come up with results we don't like (fortunately for Saudi they don't have elections).

Well tough. Most foreigners don't agree & there are more of them than of us.
49

SouthernGent,

12/07/2008 18:14:09
"International Law", like any other law, is not infinite. Just because it is currently "a law", does not necessarily make it "right". I know of many laws still on the books that have no bearing on todays society, yet have not been removed. Most are ignored until the day the are legally removed. Human suffering at the hands of others such as Mugabe is "wrong", regardless of what International law guidlines are set for the UN.
50

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

12/07/2008 18:53:26
http://www.zimbabwejournalists.com/story.php?art_id=3944

Any update on that story anyone?
51

bikewoman,

12/07/2008 18:55:36
#50 Horrible Troll

Troll
52

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12/07/2008 19:03:48
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53

oder,

Scotland 12/07/2008 20:43:11
well! well! Russia And China agree to Mugabe being allowed to continue to rule by terror? is any one really surprised by this? strange!two countries that would not know what a democratic election looks like.
Chinese troops are stationed in Zimbabwe, this would not be the first time Mugabe has used foreign troops he used the buddies of the Chinese..... North Koreans in the early eighties to suppress the locals in Matabeleland and China had nothing to say! since it was an African murdering Africans even using North Koreans the policy of non interference applies, only when it was a white government was Chinese policy of direct interference to up hold the democratic process which by the way the Chinese government has never believed in, cant be to difficult to work out the hypocrisy of the Chinese government! as for the Russian they are smarting over the missile defence system in the Czech Republic.
54

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

13/07/2008 11:14:57
51...Kissy kissxx
55

Dougie, Edinburgh,

13/07/2008 11:57:03
While the black police in Africa are beating up and ripping off white farmers, the black police in Britain are have come up with their own scheme to rip off the gullible white natives:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2298845/Black-and-Asian-police-line-up-race-bias-claims.html
56

Dougie, Edinburgh,

13/07/2008 12:03:45
42 Tris,12/07/2008
Yes, I've worked for a multinational that expected people to do some time in Africa... in a barbed wire compound complete with bunkers, machine gun posts and driving everywhere with an armed escort. Despite a large bribe for expatriates there were never volunteers.

Or perhaps you're suggesting that millions of white people are queuing up to emigrate to Zimbabwe?

Most multinational activity in Africa involves resource extraction since apparently, the native Africans are unable to do this effectively themselves.


57

Neil,

Glasgow 13/07/2008 12:37:54
Well Southern gent when you get arrested for beating up a cripple in a dark alley I doubt if you will find saying that it is OK because Edward Ists law about practicing with bowys & arrows was never repealed gets you very far.
58

SouthernGent,

13/07/2008 16:33:17
Streching it a little there Neil. Very simple concept - right is right and wrong is wrong. Beating/murdering is wrong in my book, but evidently you have a different book.

 

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