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Published Date: 11 September 2008
SEVEN years after the 9/11 attacks, there is no consensus outside the United States that Islamist militants from al-Qaeda were responsible.
WorldPublicOpinion.org surveyed 16,063 people in 17 nations and found majorities in only nine countries believe al-Qaeda was behind the attacks that killed around 3,000 people in 2001.


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  • Last Updated: 10 September 2008 10:43 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 01:00:21
"World in denial on al-Qaeda and 9/11"

Wrong headline. Should read:

"World sees flaws in official 9/11 story"

If anyone thinks bin Laden was responsible, please inform the FBI. He is wanted by them for the African embassy bombings, but not 9/11.

See - http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm
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Scullion,

Canada 11/09/2008 01:11:29
Then why hasn't he categorically denied it?
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Guga II,

Rockall 11/09/2008 01:32:35
#2 Scullion.

He has categorically denied it, on a number of occasions on both video and audio tape.

I suggest you take a look at, among other things, the following:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=964034652002408586

The only time he allegedly "admitted" it was on a video the Americans allegedly found. It is obviously not Bin Laden on this Bush Administration tape, and the tape itself is obviously a fake.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 11/09/2008 02:26:36
Maybe Osama bin Cheney should should have a thorough background check.
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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 11/09/2008 03:00:02
When it is the terrorists #1-#4 it is always "ALLEDGED",when it is the Americans or anyone else,you are up in arms shreiking like a lot of hysterical old ladies!It doesn't matter which offshoot of the Islamic Extremists committed the act.Those who didn't, wished they had and the rest are upset because they didn't. Heads up your fundamental orifices as usual.Spewing out the same "TERRORIST SUPPORTING"drivel. You are nitpicking over minutae as your countrys sink nearer and nearer to being totally controlled by Islam. How is your Arabic dumbsh*ts?
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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 11/09/2008 05:19:43
#5 Well said Dragonhead.

The terrorist apologists (like #1,#3 and #4) always squeak about America or Tony Blair's aggression in the face of what is undoubtedly a major attack on Western values.
When will they realise that those same terrorists are attacking THEM - even though they may not have been near enough to smell the smoke and the blood from the carnage?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 11/09/2008 05:30:45
For 7 years the USA has not been attacked on it's own soil...and that is due to one person. Like it or not you have to admit that we have been terrorism free for the last 7 years in our country. BDS people will never give him the kudos for doing that. He has kept America safe.
Bush didn't care about approval ratings.. he did what he thought was right, and he stayed that course until the light at the end of the tunnel was seen...thanks to McCain, and Petraeus.
The last intercepted letter from Zawahri, was a barage of insults to Al Qaeda in Iraq for failing to have poorly planned attacks and for sending fighters into war alone.
We are winning, the war is winding down. I know you Liberals and Bush haters will never admit it.
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Guga II,

Rockall 11/09/2008 05:38:51
#6.

Try and get your facts straight, nobody was apologising for terrorists, my comments were on a matter of fact, i.e. that Bin Laden has categorically denied any involvement in the WTC attack.

As for the war criminals Bush, Bliar and Broon, I presume you believed every word that came out of their lying mouths, including Bliar's 45 minute nonsense. In any event, an illegal war is an illegal war, and the attack on Iraq was a direct breach of international law.

#7.

Once a war criminal, always a war criminal. Face up to it, the war criminal Bush has created more terrorists that anyone in history.

Never mind though, you can always console yourself with a session of Fox News.

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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 10:29:48
Thanks Guga #8 for saving me a bit of time.

I am not "alleging" these were terrorists #5, these were terrorists - just not the ones you innocently believe.

For example, just take a look at the 'fat bin Laden' tape sold to the world as genuine.

The government and media treat you like complete morons - stop falling for it.

Look at these videos of WTC7 collapsing:

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

Please show me an example of any other building in history that has collapsed like this and has not had all its support columns deliberately blown in a controlled demolition.

Watch "Terrorstorm: A History of Government Sponsored Terrorism" to get a clue how governments operate and always have.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8136133221213939183&hl=en

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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 11/09/2008 12:21:04
Just like I said, the conspiracy theorist morons never stop, and the bs about the "war criminal" Bush. You can say it a thousand times..it doesn't make it true. All the whacky left wing links will never change the facts. Those theories have been debunked.
We have had 6 plots against NYC alone, and they were all foiled.
Keep your heads in the sand.
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SouthernGent,

11/09/2008 12:28:33
I find it interesting that the posters here that claim the world is being duped by the US and preach "do not believe what they are telling you", in turn put out their own "theories" and tell you to "believe this instead". None of these "theories" can be proven, yet they are a victim gullibilism just as much as they proclaim you to be.
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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 11/09/2008 12:43:47
#12 Lynne,Palm Beach Gardens. Lynne the only thing I would change on my post or yours now,is: Their heads are so far up their own fundamental orifices they probably think the music from their interiors is Arabic music!
Everything they comment on is smart*ss point scoring on technicalities and nitpicking minutae.All of it totally irrelevant to the overall picture. The big picture to them is a full page in a Mickey Mouse comic!
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 12:48:43
Lynne, #12: "conspiracy theorist morons"

People who have spent years trying to uncover the truth are not morons. I wouldn't call you a moron, but I do think you should cease being an ostrich and watch Terrorstorm.

What else is Bush if not a war criminal? Do you know why the US is at war in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Here's what a British MP said a few months ago - "Profiting from Iraq's occupation" - http://www.thelabourparty.org/iraq_harry_cohen.htm

The majority of the alleged hijackers were Saudis, so why didn't Bush bomb S. Arabia to smithereens?

Why were the bin Ladens given special clearance to leave the US when nobody else was allowed to fly?

How did the BBC come to discover that at least 6 of the alleged hijackers were alive and well elsewhere?

Take YOUR head out the sand and save me repeating the same obvious statements to every 9/11 truth doubter.

I'd rather it had been bin Laden, but you have to face the awful truth that governments carry out terrorism. Google: Operation Ajax, Operation Gladio, USS Liberty, Gulf of Tonkin for starters.
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 12:49:24
#13 SouthernGent: how did al Qaeda get NORAD to stand down on 9/11? How was bin Laden able to get the Feds to confiscate private CCTV footage from around the Pentagon within minutes of the attack? Who had most to gain from attacking NY and DC?
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 12:50:09
As for Dragonhead: "Everything they comment on is smart*ss point scoring on technicalities and nitpicking minutae".

Like buildings that collapse and defy the laws of physics?

You, sir, are an apologist for the brutal Communist Chinese regime. Is forced abortion "nitpicking minutiae" to you?
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/09/2008 13:51:23
Let's look at the facts here.

1. A plane crashed into each of the twin towers
2. Both towers collapsed
3. So did No7 WTC

No1 is an incontravertable fact which was withnessed live on TV by millions...

...however, I still cannot see how an oxygen-starved fire in each tower got things hot enough to cause the collapse of the floors adjacent to the plane crashes, although I can see how, once those floors had given way, the towers would have fallen as they did.

I certainly cannot see how WTC7 collapsed due to a relatively small oxygen starved fire within it.

Maybe sometime the real truth will out, but certeinly not in our lifetimes.
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Mashimaro,

China 11/09/2008 13:56:03
#6 "Western values"

There's a contradiction in terms. Ha ha haa
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Mashimaro,

China 11/09/2008 14:09:19
I'm glad to see the lie is not working on the rest of the world. A pity the yankees can't be so discerning. But then... eh... seeing how they are educated and entertained, I'm not surprised.
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SouthernGent,

11/09/2008 15:37:34
#20
"I'm glad to see the lie"

You have no idea if it is a lie or not, just more of your bs. Keep that agenda rolling, I think you have yourself convinced.
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SouthernGent,

11/09/2008 15:43:07
#16
All debatable points, nothing fact. You prove my point in 13, you have convinced yourself of an outcome in which you can not prove. You "believe" it to be true, that does not make it so. You are probably one of those that also make fun of those that "believe" in god, yet you are doing the same exact thing.
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 15:52:07
SouthernGent #22

I am a Christian.
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SouthernGent,

11/09/2008 15:59:15
#23
Ok, then reverse it, now you believe in god, yet can't prove it. You are still operating on "belief", not Fact.
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Biker,

Ayr 11/09/2008 19:57:02
Interesting to see the auld blaw Dunderhead has re-emerged from the re education unit at China central eh?
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57Nomad,

11/09/2008 20:30:44
#8 guga

guga said:

"Try and get your facts straight, nobody was apologising for terrorists, my comments were on a matter of fact, i.e. that Bin Laden has categorically denied any involvement in the WTC attack."

You are saying that bin Laden has denied responsibility for the WTC attacks? What do you make of this:

"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women."
Osama bin Laden
Admitting responsibility for attacks on US on September 11, 2001, on videotape shown on Al Jazeera, October 29, 2004
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57Nomad,

11/09/2008 20:33:59
#9 SS

SS said:

"Please show me an example of any other building in history that has collapsed like this and has not had all its support columns deliberately blown in a controlled demolition."

Good point, and while you're at it please show another example of any other building into which jet airliners were crashed.
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57Nomad,

11/09/2008 20:42:19
#26 barge

barge said:

"He indicated that he was not going to be a compliant American puppet and sought to get a better deal from the oil revenue for his people!"

Sorry pal, you got it wrong. It was Britain, not the US that instigated the unseating of Mossadeq. It was Britain, not the US that had the oil concession in Iran and it was Mossadeq who said he was going to nationalize the concession and freeze the British out. That's what started the trouble, it had nothing to do with the US.
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57Nomad,

11/09/2008 20:46:17
#18

Oxygen starved?!?! These things didn't happen on the moon they happened at sea level. What do you mean, oxygen starved. They had the entire atmosphere of the earth to get oxygen from. Oxygen starved, indeed!
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 11/09/2008 21:09:37
#15 Stewart

Rather than write a book on the subject of your conspiracy theories...go to the History Channel. EVERYONE of your conspiracies has been debunked by scientific research, military research, and just plain old common sense. Everyone of them.
AND if there are 6 suspected hijackers still alive ...bring them forth. I, for one, would love to see them, love to hear from them. I do know that one of them is NOT an Egyptian, as his father hasn't seen or heard from him in 7 years. But you go ahead, you call the BBC, and you tell them to put them on tv.. I am willing to watch. My mind is open. But in 7 years no one has heard from them.
Grow up..It's time you faced facts. 4 planes came and did their dirty deeds here. 3 planes hit their targets, and 1 plane had a group of people that made sure their hijackers did not hit their targets. It's on tape, on 911 calls, I saw the planes hit the buildings, I lost friends... and everytime you open that door to our gov't being behind this you stab the survivors in the back. Your links are nonsense. Your theories are nonsense ...and those are nice words.
To people like you, no matter how much proof is offered, no matter how much is debunked, your minds will never change.
Today, especially, if you left wing conspiracists would just shut your mouths and let those of us, who have lost friends and family grieve, without reading your garbage it would be nice. Something you could do for your fellow man.
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 23:20:09
#30 - 57Nomad

I was referring to Building 7 which was not hit by a plane.

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 11/09/2008 23:32:32
33 Lynne - innocent child, you cannot possibly have discovered reality from the History Channel's major hit piece on 9/11 truth.

http://www.infowars.net/articles/august2007/030807HistoryChannel.htm

"Today, especially, if you left wing conspiracists would just shut your mouths and let those of us, who have lost friends and family grieve, without reading your garbage it would be nice. Something you could do for your fellow man."

I'm sure you and the victims would want the TRUE murderers and their accomplices to face the charges of mass murder.

Instead we had round-ups of miscellaneous arabs, some of whom have been tortured and detained without charge for years.

We all want justice and I want the masterminds of 9/11 appearing in a court and the innocent freed from American concentration camps.

To reiterate:

If anyone thinks bin Laden was responsible, please inform the FBI. He is wanted by them for the African embassy bombings, but not 9/11.

See - http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 11/09/2008 23:46:36
The true murderers, Stewart are the 19 hijackers that boarded those planes, and flew them into the buildings.
NOTHING is going to change those facts..NOTHING..
You can say gov't coverup.. but only left wing numpties, and American bashers, and Bush bashers believe you.
Just remember, we, the US, have to be right ALL the time, the terrorists have only to be right once.
I'm not willing to let them be right again.
We wanted to let some of these people go back to their homeland...they don't want them, they won't take them back. Something you may not have heard, or if you did, don't care and will repeat trash. And instead of mocking the History Channel, watch it, you might just learn something.
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 12/09/2008 00:07:22
#37 Lynne, "Hijack 'suspects' alive and well":

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

"only left wing numpties, and American bashers, and Bush bashers believe you."

The whole point of this brief article is that the MAJORITY does not believe the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda - see http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/sep08/WPO_911_Sep08_pr.pdf

"And instead of mocking the History Channel, watch it, you might just learn something."

I much prefer fact to mainstream media lies.


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57Nomad,

12/09/2008 03:12:48
#35 Stewart C

Stewart are you saying that not only were the Towers collapsed on purpose, but that the other building was also? Also, if you have ever seen a building being demolished, it is preceded by a series of explosions. No such explosions were seen. The fact that the building collapsed straight down and did not tumble over is purely a matter of the physical laws of the universe. Pick up a pencil and drop it ten or twenty times. See how many times it hovers, goes up instead of down, or falls to one side or another. It will happen zero times. The only way a building collapses to one side or the other is if it receives energy from an outside source or else the base is shifted. If you will look at the horrible photos from the Mexico City earthquake of about 25 years ago you will see that multi story apartments did collapse to the side. That's because they were built on sand and part of the sand gave way before the other did. However if you remember the Northridge earthquake in Los Angeles there was only one building that collapsed. A couple of freeways collapsed but only one building. It was an apartment complex that was directly on top of the epicenter of the quake. It was built to code and was on a solid foundation. It collapsed straight down like the towers did.
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57Nomad,

california 12/09/2008 03:30:11
#16 Stewart

You ask how did AQ get NORAD to stand down? What do you mean by that? NORAD is there to prevent airplanes from entering American or Canadian airspace from outside of American or Canadian airspace, not to keep track of American and Canadian commercial flights. It never stands down, never. At any one time there are about 87,000 airplanes flying in the US. Do you think NORAD or anybody else for that matter is keeping track of 87,000 airplanes? They are not. The Air Force could not possibly guess which of the 87,000 airplanes the terrorists were on until is was far too late to intercept them. Even then it would be a hard call to shoot down a civilian airplane over American soil.

Also, NORAD is a joint American-Canadian effort. Can you explain how those shifty neo-con villains talked the Canadians into standing down?
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57Nomad,

12/09/2008 03:44:06
#11 the Spectator.

spectator said:

""Woodward: Bin Laden Capture Could Be October Surprise."

October surprise? The capture of bin Laden would be a bad thing, a devious trick to get McCain elected? Well, it wouldn't be the first time. Are you forgetting Harry Truman's "April Surprise" when he conspired with the Germans to surrender right when it would help him most. Remember, if you think Sarah Palin has little experience, Harry Truman had none at all, Stalin knew about our A Bomb before Truman did. It gave him the 'gravitas' to win the next election. Yep these, 'surprises' like getting people to surrender, setting our hostages free, and if you are correct, having bin Laden get 'captured' in October just in time for people to see George Bush put bin Laden's head on a pike and stick it in the ground at the Pentagon, come fast and furious around election time. You already knew that Bush and bin Laden were in cahoots with each other but Ill bet you didn't know it went so far as to having his head stuck on a pole outside the Pentagon did you? You are soooo gullible.
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Stewart C.,

Stranraer 12/09/2008 12:55:08
57Nomad, thousands of architects and engineers believe Building 7 was demolished. No offence, but I don't think they'd be impressed with your pencil analogy!

Yes, NORAD is a joint US/Canadian operation, but Dick Cheney was in charge on 9/11 and repeatedly gave orders that the plane heading for the Pentagon was not to be shot down -

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/270705testimonycensored.htm

57Nomad, "It never stands down, never." - well, Cheney made sure it did on 9/11.
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 12/09/2008 15:28:18
Bin Laden "quote" on Al Jazeera: Find it from the source, Nomad. Find some back up on that "quote". You can't.

"Good point, and while you're at it please show another example of any other building into which jet airliners were crashed. "

---a)Sure: July 28, 1945, B52, Empire state: stayed up. And in case you are about to do you usual red herring drivel by saying "Aha, I wrote "JET"!", here's another example: December 6, 2005, Tehran: building stayed up. I'm sure there will more.

The entire 911 official story is flawed. There are serious errors in it (as too, London 7/7). If the people of the US want to believe the official line, so be it. Many in the US also believed the official line about Pearl harbour, Gulf of Tonkin and Lockerbie so why not 911?

Quite astounding propaganda over there, frightening really.
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SouthernGent,

12/09/2008 21:36:13
"Quite astounding propaganda over there, frightening really"

Just as frightening are the non-believers that are operating on dubious information, of which none has been proven. Proof that really doesn't exist either way.

Food for thought. The democrats have been out of power for 8 years now and can't stand Bush. Liberal colleges have gone as far as to prohibit ROTC on campuses. These people HATE conservatives. Yet you want everyone to believe that not one whistleblower would exist to blow the lid off an inside job. The scary part is - you believe it.
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Mashimaro,

China 13/09/2008 02:13:35
The US government lied about 9/11. anyone with half a mind knows this. That is all we need to know. The rest is speculation. Sufficei it to say, the US government LIED.
What ticks me off is that the US people would rather slaughter 155 000 civillian Iraqis than know the truth.
They scream about democracy. They elect the murder in chief for another term and then they wonder why the world would want to park a plane on their heads.
Elect McCain and get more of the same. It's not a mystery.
The US doesn't have to be right all of the time. I just has to keep its armies at home and its nose out of the world's business. It's not that hard to do.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 14/09/2008 19:15:45
Guga, Guga Guga, tsk, tsk, tsk, this is about 9/11 and Al Qaeda..
go somewhere else more appropriate. Your hate and bashing for Israel doesn't apply here.

I remember suicide bombings by your buddies who boarded buses filled with Jewish school children, and people going to work.

You keep going back to ancient history to turn more people against Israel. Come on.
Does MI5 mention those? Or they trying to wipe that bit of history away also?

Are you forgetting the ships filled with Jews that left Europe that the Brits turned back, so they couldn't land? Are you forgetting all those people would face certain death if they returned to Europe?

GROW UP!!.. Stop the one-sided nonsense with your hatred. It's become old, stale, and trite.. those are 3 words synonomous with Brage (Guga)





 

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