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US accuses Iran of arming Iraqi insurgents



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Published Date: 27 April 2008
IRAN is ratcheting up its support for militias in Iraq by providing them with newly manufactured weapons and bringing them across the border to receive training from members of Tehran's Republican Guard, according to the US military.
Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the military is preparing to roll out evidence, including date stamps on newly found weapons caches, to prove that recently made Iranian weapons are flowing into Iraq at a steadily i
ncreasing rate.

Mullen would not detail the evidence, which is expected to be revealed by military leaders in Iraq as early as this week. Another senior military official said it will include mortars, rockets, small arms, roadside bombs and armour-piercing explosives, known as explosively formed penetrators or EFPs, that troops have discovered in caches in recent months.

The official said dates on some of the weapons were well after Tehran indicated late last year that it was scaling back aid to insurgents. In addition, the evidence will include information gleaned from detainees who were reportedly trained by members of Iran's Quds Force, as well as insurgents who received instruction on how to train others.

Part of the firepower the military will unveil was used to support insurgents during the recent fighting in Basra in southern Iraq, officials said.

Mullen said he has seen evidence "that some of the weapons are recently not just found, but recently manufactured". He also warned that the United States has the combat power to strike Tehran if needed.

Both Mullen and Defence Secretary Robert Gates have made clear that while all military options are on the table, they prefer at this point to use other pressures on Iran. In laying out details of Iran's continued efforts to fuel terror in Iraq, US military leaders are sending signals both to Tehran and Baghdad.

The United States is clearly trying to send a message to Iran that it will take action if necessary to stop Iranian infiltration. Washington also hopes that Iraqi leaders will resist negative influences from their Shiite Muslim co-religionists in Iran and continue efforts to exert control over their own country.

"The solution right now still lies in using other levers of national power, including diplomatic, financial and international pressure (against Iran]," Mullen said.

Still, while Mullen acknowledged that launching a third conflict in that region would be extremely stressful for US forces, he said he has reserve capabilities in the Navy and the Air Force for any needed military action.

"It would be a mistake to think that we are out of combat capability," he said.

The news comes after a civilian ship contracted by the US military fired warning shots at two small boats approaching it in the Persian Gulf.

Fears of potential danger in the Gulf have been heightened in recent months by several incidents in the narrow Strait of Hormuz where small Iranian boats approached American warships despite warnings to alter their course.





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  • Last Updated: 26 April 2008 7:42 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
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1

Mashimaro,

China 27/04/2008 03:20:56
accuse accuse, lie, invade...roll me over blow me down they're at it again
2

airmick,

delaware usa 27/04/2008 04:50:47
#1 Mashimaro

Sir, surly you jest. I'm not an expert, but I beleve it's pretty clear that Iran wishes to become a regional power, and it's in their best interests to keep Iraq de-stabilized or at the very least under Shiite control. Having a strong independent democracy next to them is not in their play book. So one can logically assume that arming the militias will continue as long as it advances their agenda. These devices indescrimately kill and maime cilvilian as well as U.S and Iraqis security forces. Arms caches found have been dated made in Iran within 4 months. This is well after their statement of non-involvement in arming the militias. Think it through, and it becomes evident why they are pursuing this policy.
3

Celtic Forever,

no-one likes them, they don't care 27/04/2008 05:51:36
Give the US 3-months, ignore the bleeding hearts and the left-wing, mediocre nonentites and islam could be wiped off the face of the earth for good.

Unfortunately, western democracies are so terrified of criticism from do-gooding appeasers that none of them have the backbone to do what is required.

How any government can sacrifice their own troops when a targetted, overwhelming and sustained bombing of these medieval in-breds would resolve the problem forever defies logic.
4

Biker,

Ayr 27/04/2008 10:09:15
Another tissue of untruths by the US militery? Could Bush be priming the militery for a last gasp attack on Iran? It after all has been on his radar for some time now.
I am not convinced that this story is true. Remember weapons of mass distruction? I dont doubt for a moment that symathetic forces are attempting to arm the insurgents, but be clear on who the target actualy is. Individuals not the whole state of Iran. The US only wishes to control the oil .
Actualy Mashimaro I agree with you.
5

Matt there,

somewhere 27/04/2008 12:42:50
It could be that Iran is arming the militias in order to destabilise Iraq to prevent it ever launching another war against it.
6

Reading Public 1,

Wisc 27/04/2008 13:24:58
Iran is asking for it. If the evidence supports the premise we need to look at a invasion/bombing of Iran.
I'm getting real sick and tired of Iran and their radical leaders. We should have taken them out when they held out hostages. Look at what happened when a leader came to office that had the guts to do it. They caved in. I don't think they want to see their infrastructure destroyed. If this is what it is going to take lets do it. You can't get 3 Fundamentalists in the same room without a fight.
7

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 27/04/2008 14:06:55
Thats a laugh the US is responsible for arming more than half the world including the Taleban and the Iraqi insurgents.
There was a story on here a few days back about UK soldiers in Southern Iraq being sniped with US Sniper rifles and ammo.
Iran itself gets a lot of its military hardware from US arms dealers.
8

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27/04/2008 14:09:22
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9

Mashimaro,

China 27/04/2008 14:49:02
#2 Airmick - do not insult me by calling me "Sir". I am not a noble, I am a comrade.
10

Mashimaro,

China 27/04/2008 14:53:48
#2 Airmick - I don't care whether they are doing it or are not doing it. The most effective deterrant to these people was Saddam Hussein - but the US killed him.
But the fact that the US points a finger leads me to cry out "Nuuu uuuh! POT...KETTLE...BLACK!"
The US does this ALL THE TIME. In fact it is doing it right now in Somalia. So what on earth gives them any sort of right to whine about Iran?
Don't get me wrong, I don't like Iran at all. But I can clearly see how US actions have led to the rise in power of Mr Are My Jeans Bad. Any idiot could see that coming down the line. Iran had a strong secular country next to them and has always reacted badly to it. IN fact the US used said strong secualr country in its attempts to destabilise Iran. So I would reckon Iran has every right to look out for its own interests.
11

Mashimaro,

China 27/04/2008 14:57:05
#4 Biker... wakey wakey... *grin*. Of course the US is gagging for a fight with Iran. It has been preparing for a while now. Don't tell me you believe those internet disruptions a few months back were just "coincidence".
12

Biker,

Ayr 27/04/2008 15:58:03
Mashimaro. I dont actualy believe much unless it can be verified by a couple of similar accounts. The US has had eyes on the reion for decades and courtesy of Dubya it made its first incursion onto the soil. (Iraq), nopw he intends to force Iran into a corner and set about them. But I firmly believe that the US will not escape easily next time.
13

Biker,

Ayr 27/04/2008 15:59:07
Mashimaro. I did'nt suffer from "disruptions" of internet service. Perhaps just your servers in China? (snigger)
14

Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 16:05:44
The US is NOT 'accusing' Iran of arming insurgents, the US is PROVING it with facts.

Big deal.
No news there. Everyone already KNOWS Iran is arming the attacks.
No if and or but about it, Iran is arming the insurgency. Yet...

Under circumstances such as this, Time has a way of modifying the truth: soon the truth is a lie.

With time, the will of the people, a spin cycle and a revisionist history boldly repeated, the lie will become a convenient truth.

Is it a case of futility to prove Iran is arming Iraqi insurgents? Yes.
Big deal. Who cares.
Israel will do what she has to do, since no other country will have the courage to see the truth.
15

Kiumars,

27/04/2008 16:10:55
Carolyn 1,27/04/2008 16:05:44
LOL ... you are funny. Israel could not defeat 2000 Hezbolah fighters! I ran has at least 20 millions! Go watch your superman cartoons son.
16

Kiumars,

27/04/2008 16:17:02
To Reading Public 1,Wisc 27/04/2008 13:24:58
I am getting really sick of you M.F. Jews! I live next to a Senegal!
17

Mashimaro,

China 27/04/2008 16:20:58
#13 "Mashimaro. I did'nt suffer from "disruptions" of internet service. Perhaps just your servers in China? (snigger)"

Guess you're not as up to date as you would like to think, then.
It wasn't just China - Check it out...
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/516299-ship-impounded-crew-arrested-for-net-blackout?ln=en
18

Kiumars,

27/04/2008 16:21:44
The reality whether you like it or not is that there will not be a country called Israel soon, you can rip your ass or pull your hair but I have made my mind! Go back to Russia!
19

Dáithí,

San Jose 27/04/2008 16:27:52
#16 - Kiumars

>"I am getting really sick of you M.F. Jews! "

It is so refreshing to see at least one Leftist drop the cloak and stand there, naked, in his hate.

That's really what this anti US/UK/Israel "oh wahh, they're going to attack Iran", "oh wahh, they are making oil profits" carp is all about, isn't it?

Notify the museums, we've found an honest Leftist, an extinct species.
20

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27/04/2008 16:28:15
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Mashimaro,

27/04/2008 16:50:47
#20 I don't give a damn what they do, dude. Muslims killing Jews, Jews killing Muslims - it's a win/win situation in my book. Kind of like Africans tearing themselves apart and weeping big crocodile tears.
Go for it, I say.

Although I must add, I've never seen any particularly Jewish porn but I have seen loads of reports about Muslim males raping little boys cos they're not allowed to have women. Perhaps your country should consider opening up the porn channels to relieve the pressure on the kids, eh?
22

Dáithí,

San Jose 27/04/2008 17:01:20
#21 (& #16)-

>"I don't give a damn what they do, dude. Muslims killing Jews, Jews killing Muslims - it's a win/win situation in my book. Kind of like Africans tearing themselves apart and weeping big crocodile tears.

OK, now we're up to TWO honest leftists!
23

P.K,

27/04/2008 17:11:21
#15, #16

I am getting really sick of your odd lunatic Iranian Mullahs. You are an ass! If Israel had not shown restraint and concern to limit civilian casualties, your Hezboo terrorists who have been known to hide in amongst civilian population, operated in densely populated residential areas and using civilians as human shields, would have been defeated.

#18
Who do you think you are, predicting what in store for the future?? Just a fake mediocre clairvoyant!
24

Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 18:59:02
# 15 Kiumars, 27/04/2008 16:10:55



How many of you does it take to screw in a light bulb? I'm guessing it takes a ladder and a few dozen people, and the light bulb doesn't work.

You said "Israel could not defeat 2000 Hezbolah I ran has at least 20 millions!"
Hahaha
LOL ... you are funny!

It will take a few Israeli pilots, maybe 12 if they fly in teams with a jamming tech.

25

Biker,

Ayr 27/04/2008 19:06:12
This is becoming a joke, lets get back to the headline. As the US armed Saddam for many years prior to becoming public enemy No1, and Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld disbanded the Iraqi army without comment, I find it very ammusing that the US militery now blame Iran for arming the insurgents.
Mashimaro. Sorry mate, no disruption here.
26

Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 19:40:08
It’s ironic really, that before a war there is the feeble attempt at a ‘Public Relations’ effort.

Syria, Iran and Korea is a triangle of terror. And a soon to be broken one.
No joke, in my opinion.

Not unlike a case in a court of law, the US is making its case against Iran and or Korea. They’re not being coy or diplomatic about (bombing)it. Now that the curtain has been pulled back, the US wants us to clearly see all the players on stage, which include the terror groups Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Palestinian rejectionists- all funded by Iran.

The difficulty is not that the case against the Terror Triangle is difficult to piece together, or that the US worries it will have to go it alone, the difficulty lies in preparing and presenting the facts without the American democrats and the European Muslims screeching that Bush lies, and thus dividing the world into opposing corners of a boxing ring ripping itself apart in the process.

Releasing the story and the photos of Israel bombing the Syria nuke facility is part of the public relations effort. Releasing data about the Korean air strips hidden in the mountains recently built for the safe take-off of nuke-loaded bombers, that’s also part of the prep before the operation, trying to justify urgency, etc, (many more examples).

Syria and Iran have joined before against Iraq. Mixing in Korea who supplies the nuke tech is a death wish. Worse case scenario is if and or when China, who has buckets of money, decides to back Korea, who is backing Syria and Iran. No longer is it triangle of terror, it is a World War and will forever change the face of the planet.

27

Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 19:41:52
Having an important commonality: they both hate Israel and the US, and with a renewed purpose, the two previous ‘enemies’- Iran and Syria, have new trade agreements:

Iran is building an Iranian oil/gas pipeline across Iraq to Syria, (connecting to China, we should assume).

Syria and Iran are joining their banking system, funding terrorists with weapons and cash, and trading nuclear knowledge with Korea.

Are they bypassing Russia? I think Russia will be visibly neutral as an official position from the official Kremlin and ‘KBG’, but considering the corruption, the Russian capitalists will profit by selling to the Triangle of Terror and no doubt engage a ‘friendly blackmail’ with Europe in the process.

At this advanced point, Israel will not agree to a ‘six month cease fire’ with Hamas; a six month cease-fire in Palestinian double-speak means time to rearm and regroup.
At best Israel is working to stay balanced now, on the ready and alert, it knows well a brokered peace is not an honest offer as long as the triangle of Syria, Iran and Korea is functioning.

I personally hope Israel, with the help of the US, bombs the Iran facility, which forces Iran to restart the clock, and under international scrutiny.

And, Hopefully, maybe time will be on the side of peace.
28

Biker,

Ayr 27/04/2008 20:01:10
Carolyn1. I sincerely hope that the Us and allies DO NOT bomb Iran to make them restart the clock. How many failed initiatives can the US sustain at one time.
As you rightly state, the case against the "Triangle" would be difficult (imposible) to make so lets hope we are'nt overwhelmed with stories of WMD again or indeed any other invective filled pronunciations by the US and UK secret services.
Unfortunately the xenophobic nature of the US at present allows for this hysteria to mount with little pushing. God help the US if they decide to enter another theatre of conflict right now.
29

Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 20:49:47
Ayr,
To say that America is xenophobic is absurd.

As for the evidence, there is mountains of evidence, now.
Even with the facts being supported by photos, the facts mean nothing: just like it always happens- people are already lining up saying the evidence is false. You included.

Iran, Syria and Korea are working together. To deny it is also absurd.
To sit back and watch the build-up continue and strengthen is dangerous.

It is far easier to cut out the rotten spot on the apple than to throw out the apple.
A life should never be discarded.
As I said earlier, a dozen pilots acting now, will save mankind from a world war in the future.

Why should millions die, which would be horrific, when if the arsenal was removed now, no one one die.
30

Carolyn 1,

27/04/2008 20:51:27
Sorry, Biker, missed your name in the copying of it. Oops.
31

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 28/04/2008 05:21:24
the US is arming the Israeli insurgents.
32

57Nomad,

california 28/04/2008 14:20:33
#31 Wally

Wally, who are the Israeli insurgents insurging against?
33

Biker,

Ayr 28/04/2008 17:45:04
Carolyn1. No appology required. With regard to the xenophobia of the US, yes it exists and is ever growing. Having spent a short time there and spoke with people it is obvious that inward thinking is becoming more prevailant.
Personally I would'nt touch the so called evidence with a barge pole as much of it is questionable. Given that the evidence now exists that Bush abd Cheyne trumped up charges against Iraq must make you consider the validity of the new stuff.
Comment from Bruce Springsteen comes to mind. "Trust in the word of your leaders WILL get you killed"
As for surgical strikes. I dont think there is a good enough reason or indeed ability to conduct this kind of thing, especially if the response is greater than you expect, and trust me it will be.
34

57Nomad,

california 28/04/2008 23:48:18
Its pretty tough to make the case that Americans are xenophobic seeing as most of us are xenos.
35

57Nomad,

california 28/04/2008 23:56:28
#28 bike

"God help the US if they decide to enter another theatre of conflict right now."

We seek God's help in a lot of things. We are a religious people and we believe that our lot depends entirely on Divine Providence and that our little to and froings amount to little in His plan for this world, and we are content in that belief. If you have ever seen an American coin you will find this stamped upon it, "In God We Trust."

Now as for Iran, we won't call on Gods help. We will call on the Marines, the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force. God help the Iranians.
36

Carolyn 1,

29/04/2008 01:42:18
33 Biker, Ayr 28/04/2008 17:45:04

What you call xenophobia, or your learned experience of it, I guess depends on where you were here: it's a big place.
I admit Americans' frustration, that because of a 12% Hispanic population, and growing illegal immigration, English is no longer the American language. Everything is bi-lingual. Everything we do, we are asked first in Spanish, then in English. Is that xenophobic? If so, I am one cranky xenophobe who can't and won't speak Spanish.

There is also a strong element of paternalism in America, but to call it xenophobic is incorrect. We're a chivalrous nation, it's part of our identity and social belief passed from one generation to the other. Scotland is no different, at least with the Scots I know.

I'm the Springsteen era but not his politics, however, the reference you made to a political lemmings theory, I agree strongly that every individual needs to think for himself and not be one of the herd.
I suggest you take a wake-up call and do the same. - read ALL the news, not just the news that appeals to your hate Bush doctrine.
37

Carolyn 1,

29/04/2008 01:53:16
Nomad
God can't help us.
He gave us a brain and heart to think and to have compassion, not kill each other; and that means NOT calling in the marines.

The US must boycott China and get off foreign oil, and poppy, let's boycott the UN until we have a new human rights that values all human lives, not Muslims more than Jews.
38

57Nomad,

california 29/04/2008 03:19:37
#36 Carolyn,

Hi Carolyn, how are you? If you see someone who is building weapons and he has told you and anyone else who cares to listen that he intends to kill you and your friends and you do nothing, that is neither rational nor compassionate. This is the case in Iran. No thinking person desires war but life isn't like that. We do not have the choice of war or peace we have the choice of a small war or a great war. I hope the Iranians abandon their nuclear ambitions, but, if they don't then we must accept that reality and react to it. What should we do? No other nation has the means or the capability of eliminating this threat. So, I ask you again. What should we do?

What you suggest is nice but ineffective. Allowing the rabid dogs to run loose while we boycott the pet store isn't very compassionate.
39

57Nomad,

california 29/04/2008 06:00:13
Hey, mash, we don't care who does and who does not believe it. If we feel that it is in our interest to take them out, we will do it and we won't take a global plebiscite to get permission.
40

Biker,

Ayr 29/04/2008 11:18:41
Carolyn1 By xenophobic I mean inward looking, and it is no surprise realy given what happened at 9/11. However your politicians are guilty of using that horrendous event for their own expediency, political and otherwise. The situation exist over here as well, with so called security experts pontificating on "holes" in the system. I am in no doubt that the "terror" is no greater now than it was before 9/11 but vested interests control every day existance and should be treated with scepticism.
57 Nomad. I'm not a religious man but respect your beliefs but comments such as: If you see someone who is building weapons and he has told you and anyone else who cares to listen that he intends to kill you and your friends and you do nothing, that is neither rational nor compassionate. Need to be taken with a pinch of salt. They are emotive but not accurate.
41

Carolyn 1,

29/04/2008 16:18:57
Nomad: "What you suggest is nice but ineffective. Allowing the rabid dogs to run loose while we boycott the pet store isn't very compassionate."

Boycotting the pet store that feeds the rabid dogs is, IMHO,just part of my solution. Good analogy though Nomad.
As I wrote in above comments #24, 26,27,29 I believe that rather then 'send in the marines', or start World War III we should preemptively and exactly cut out the nuclear site; hence why Biker made reference to a surgical strike. ...
although Biker would forgo the surgical strike, I would not. Sooner rather than later.
42

Carolyn 1,

29/04/2008 16:35:35
Biker, Ayr
I agree with you that the 'vested interests control every day existence.'
As for 9/11 repeating, I agree with what you said, but the danger/terror that we're confronting isn't necessarily a bomb or a war, it's the slipping away of human rights as sharia aims to usurp our existing law and interpretation of human rights. Women rights and freedom of speech are in a rapid decline; that is how radical Islam is 'taking over the world;' no bomb attack necessary.
Meanwhile, we're destroying ourselves and our economies by dependence on terrorist oil, cheap Chinese goods and Afghanistan's poppy.
we're selfishly living in the moment of today and will pay for it in the future in many ways
43

57Nomad,

california 29/04/2008 16:54:44
#41 Carolyn

Your clarification is welcome. A surgical strike is part of the solution. But it doesn't go far enough. The strike also has to destroy the Iranian capacity for retaliation. They have a significant armory. The entire Iranian military needs to be crippled and the Republican Guard destroyed. It wouldn't be a bad idea to go after the Mullocracy while we are at it. Better too much than too little.
44

57Nomad,

california 29/04/2008 17:02:27
#40 Biker

Thank you for your thoughtful comments, much appreciated. Winston Churchill warned about the stated intentions of the Nazis for ten years. For his efforts he was derided as "Winne the Pooh" by the press and his political opponents. I stand by my analogy and think that wishful thinking is dangerous and will lead to a much higher cost in the future. These guys are spending an enormous amount of money and enduring international sanctions to pursue their goals. Why do you think they are doing this. They aren't building nukes to threaten Azerbaijan. They are building nuke to explode them on somebody. Are you positive that they don't have Ayr in mind?
45

Biker,

Ayr 29/04/2008 19:56:43
Caroline1. I agree with your comments on Human Rights absolutely, but the threat to them is far greater from within than from so called sharia law. Every day rights are being withdrawn from workers, immegrants, women, even children by our own governments. This is of far more importance to us all I feel.
57 Nomad Good to speak with you again my friend. I take your point fully but urge cauton on the action issue. All too often over the past decades action has been undertaken on the word of so called security specialists. Only later do we find out that it was missplaced and avoidable.
Sadly in this day and age I find myself very sceptical regarding information from government agencies.
On the question of targeting Ayr, I suspect many of the other Scottish posters would find that a welcome visitation. It might actualy do more good than our current local council.
Keep well.

 

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