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Terror expert Paul Wilkinson on motives behind Mumbai attacks – and their effects



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Published Date: 01 December 2008
Were there any intelligence warnings of the attacks?
There are rumours that the Indians did get a warning message of a seaborne attack on Mumbai. It appears to Indian observers in security that the message was lost in the huge bureaucracy India has.

What appears to have been the motive?


The surviving terrorist said he was trained in a camp run by Lashkar-e-Taiba, an extreme fundamentalist movement now affiliated to al-Qaeda, which shares the same global ideology. They believe they can create a climate of terror. The economies and infrastructure of their enemy states, not just the United States but pretty well every other government of a democratic nature, are regarded as particularly attractive targets. India is also regarded as an enemy because it has a secular democratic political system and has friendly relations with the US. Lashkar-e-Taiba originated as a Kashmiri militant group so also has a bitter resentment against India.

Is India right to blame Pakistan for the attacks?

The Indian prime minister has so far been careful to refrain from blaming the Pakistan government. He's referred to foreign or external influence, but that can include the influence of non-state organisations. Pakistan has, for some years, been a sanctuary where extremists could retreat to: a big country, with the problem in the north-west where people involved in terrorism, and al-Qaeda leaders themselves are using the uncontrolled frontier areas as a safe haven for their base.

What marks this attack out as different from other recent terror atrocities in India?

This al-Qaeda-linked group has developed the tactic of unleashing a squad of well-armed, well-trained killers, with their very efficient weapons, into gathering places in a major city, planning rapid successions of attacks designed to cause mass casualties, and creating maximum fear and disruption. The drawn-out nature of the crisis – something like 60 hours – also meant terrorists were able to wreak a great deal of publicity, and create more disruption and fear.

Where does this leave India/Pakistan relations?

A poisoning of the atmosphere in India, with politicians being unwilling to continue dialogue with Pakistan, would be a serious setback, likely to lead to more terrorism. These countries have nuclear weapons. The danger of increasing tensions is something we must bear in mind, and I'm sure Barrack Obama's advisers will strongly recommend America does its best to prevent those tensions from breaking up the process of easing of relations.

How were so few men able to do so much harm?

This indicates the extent of training and preparation that went into this attack. These guys were clearly working to a very careful plan based on close knowledge of the geography of Mumbai and the internal geography of those huge hotels. They had people infiltrated into the hotels, gathering information. They almost certainly knew more about the layout, the hiding places, than the security forces, who clearly were taken by surprise. That helped them hold out for a long time. They had very quick-firing weapons – AK-47s are very efficient, and they appear to have modified weapons to make sure they reloaded more rapidly.

• Professor Paul Wilkinson is chairman of the Advisory Board for the Centre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence at St Andrews University.





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  • Last Updated: 30 November 2008 10:01 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Indian terrorist attacks
 
1

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 01/12/2008 01:55:06
More civilians killed in this never ending "war on terror". This attack along with 9/11 will go down in history and will never be forgotten unlike the biggest terrorist attack of all on Baghdad City that killed and mutilated over 100,000 civilians. As the US general Tommy Franks said, "we don't do body counts". In other words Iraqi civilians are not classified as people.
2

donald,

glasgow 01/12/2008 03:18:51
Professor Paul Wilkinson is a spy for a Terrorist State.
3

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 01/12/2008 04:12:18
Though I in no way supported the decision to go into Iraq, I find it weakens the arguments of those who opposed the war, when some insist on making false claims about civilian casualties caused by coalition forces.

Rob Bennett's statement gives the impression that all 100,000 dead civilians where killed by coalition troops.

Fully 90% of civilian deaths where in fact caused by indigenous militia forces and foreign insurgents.

Though the coalition bears a great deal of responsibility for being unable to stop the communal bloodletting after the invasion, to make statements specifically designed to exaggerate the role of the coalition forces in these peoples deaths is misleading and weakens your arguments.
4

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 04:33:17
#3 KampungHighlander,
What exactly is that you've been smoking?
The so called "Shock and Awe" incident in and on Baghdad killed most of the innocent people there, not militia forces and foreign insurgents.
Every death since then can be blamed on the American and British forces for they are there illegally and they are the cause of all that suffering endured by the innocent citizens of Iraq.
Get your facts straight before you show off your ignorance on these threads.
5

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 04:40:45
Professor Paul Wilkinson forgot to mention the US endorsed nuclear technology in India which in itself will cause great concern to all other countries in that area. India is on friendly terms with both the US and Israel which we all know are bitter enemies of the Middle East.
The US role in India can be compared to the US role in Taiwan, they are there to instigate and to keep an eye on their enemies.
The fact that the Americans are also guilty of cross-border attacks into Pakistan has greatly upset many in Pakistan because so many innocent are getting killed because of those actions, so that is another indication that Pakistan could well be involved in these attacks.
6

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 01/12/2008 05:25:50
#4 Skidmark 55

"The so called "Shock and Awe" incident in and on Baghdad killed most of the innocent people there, not militia forces and foreign insurgents."

The "Shock and Awe" phase of this conflict took place in March and April 2003. The civilian casualties for that period where:

March 2003 - 3,976
April 2003 - 3,437

Source: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database

This is the most comprehensive database of Iraqi civilian casualties available. It also includes information on the circumstances of each death. If you look you will see that less than 10% of the civilian deaths in Iraq are directly attributable to the actions of coalition forces. 90% can be attributed to the actions of local militias or insurgents.

"Get your facts straight before you show off your ignorance on these threads."

7

yockel,

01/12/2008 07:09:42
Does not bode well for large queus at airport security while armed police swan about in the safety of air side.
What next.
Super tanker in the Channel anyone?
Best just arrest a few MPs and settle old scores rather than do anything useful.
8

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 08:13:05
#6 KampungHighlander,
You are as stupid and as ignorant as roughly 50% of the American population if you believe the figures you just quoted, that's all part of American propaganda and most of the people found in mass graves come from that time period, the "Shock and Awe" phase.
The Americans and Britons are the ones that have killed 90% of the people, you got your numbers backwards, but that is to be expected from a flunky like yourself.
9

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01/12/2008 08:18:28
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

01/12/2008 09:08:23
'This indicates the extent of training and preparation that went into this attack. '

I read in the Observer that they got their information on the layout of the area from Google Earth.
11

Mcsnagpile,

01/12/2008 10:03:27
The reason for terrorism is to undermine the enemy and cause polarisation of communities. Nil Carborundum Illegitemie

Is it true that since the Chinese ruled Vietnam for 1000 years they are considering re-annexing??
12

cramond1,

Peace Train 01/12/2008 12:18:04
What are the statistics? The Lancet said some 600,000 had been killed a few years ago as the result of the American invasion. It is clear that their war on terror is wrong, and more wrong-headed than even the Vietnam war which killed 60,000 US troops, polarised America, bred violence throughout SE Asia, and through their movies and video games worldwide ever since, and killed 2 to 3 million Vietnamese. The truth will out, and it will cost. Apparently 2 to 4 million Iraquis are now displaced and rely on the charity of Arab neighbours, also under threat from the US giant.

Currently US soldiers are testifying before Congress and admitting, bravely, in public how they took part in daily atrocities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gitmo etc. For example they shot directly at the occupants of vehicles even after they had stopped and not in front or at the engines as instructed in the (illegal) "rules of engagement". Follow, on "Democracy Now" internet TV, their highly articulate confessions and the soldiers' own hopes of US withdrawal from the evil, pointless wars they were conned into supporting. Get out! Stop the invasions!

Actually America needs saving. That so many are still unaware of what is being done in their name is itself an atrocity. God Bless America and God Bless their victims.
13

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 12:19:37
#11 Mcsnagpile,
It would be best that you ask the Chinese government that question wouldn't you agree?
14

I should be studying,

Edinburgh 01/12/2008 12:39:05
#8 POSTMARK,-55,China
If you check the IBC website you will see that it is not US/UK propaganda. It is a resource contributed to by independent journalists and civilians. Then again, the concept of press freedom is not something you're used to in China, is it? I think the IBC was created as a response to the US/UK led invasion of Iraq and I actually think it is anti US/UK government. I think you're just being rude, and ignorant.
15

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 12:50:52
#14 I should be studying,
Please do as your 'moniker' says, you're in dire need of a reality check.
The US is 100% responsible, they illegally invaded and are illegally occupying Iraq, it's all on their shoulders, them and their butt-kissing UK ally.
If things are so restricted here in China then why is it that you and I are communicating via the internet?
Yet more propaganda from the West about China. I have total freedom and never worry about a knock on the door in the middle of the night.
Keep studying, you have a long way to go.
16

Honest Opinion 2,

Clamecy 01/12/2008 13:14:07
I cannot let No 2 - Donald's remark go. What a nincompoop. Prof Wilhinson has been a premier expert on these issues for decades and I'm sure his advice and analysis is sought by those who have real need of it. Actually, I take my hat of to him - he;s a brave guy sticking his neck out as he does.
17

Oor Waleed,

01/12/2008 13:26:15
Hey Skidmark 55, aka Ho Chi Haw Haw

The reason you have total freedom is that you are clearly a western hating Sino-sycophant. A 21st Century Lord Haw Haw.

Try saying something negative about your newly adopted country and see what happens....
18

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 01/12/2008 13:36:30
#17 Oor Waleed,
After having lived here over three years I have yet to find something negative to see or come across here in China.
You need to leave the confines of your house once in a while and discover the real world, and don't be so cheap and buy a ticket to China so that you can see for yourself how misguided you are.
19

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 01/12/2008 13:44:18
A study by Bergen and Cruickshanks concluded that the world was seven times more dangerous as a result of the Iraq War.

The evidence to back that assertion seems readily available.

We can only hope that the Indian Government show more restraint and intelligence than the US Govt did.
20

Oor Waleed,

01/12/2008 14:15:27
Skidmark:

What makes you think I have not worked in China?
21

Oor Waleed,

01/12/2008 14:17:52
Observer 1


Can you show me a seventh of danger?
22

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 01/12/2008 18:18:36
Yet more people failing to grasp the situation.

All Muslims Must Make Jihad
Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded. Allah has ascribed great importance to jihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and the fighters in His way a splendid one. Only those who have acted similarly and who have modeled themselves upon the martyrs in their performance of jihad can join them in this reward. Furthermore, Allah has specifically honoured the Mujahideen {those who wage jihad} with certain exceptional qualities, both spiritual and practical, to benefit them in this world and the next. Their pure blood is a symbol of victory in this world and the mark of success and felicity in the world to come.

Those who can only find excuses, however, have been warned of extremely dreadful punishments and Allah has described them with the most unfortunate of names. He has reprimanded them for their cowardice and lack of spirit, and castigated them for their weakness and truancy. In this world, they will be surrounded by dishonour and in the next they will be surrounded by the fire from which they shall not escape though they may possess much wealth. The weaknesses of abstention and evasion of jihad are regarded by Allah as one of the major sins, and one of the seven sins that guarantee failure.

Islam is concerned with the question of jihad and the drafting and the mobilisation of the entire Umma {the global Muslim community} into one body to defend the right cause with all its strength than any other ancient or modern system of living, whether religious or civil. The verses of the Qur'an and the Sunnah of Muhammad (PBUH {Peace Be Unto Him}) are overflowing with all these noble ideals and they summon people in general (with the most eloquent expression and the clearest exposition) to jihad, to warfare, to the armed forces, and all means of land and sea fighting.


Here Al-Banna offers citations from the Quran and the reliable hadit
23

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 01/12/2008 19:57:49
22 You and ''Waleed'' are both entirely ignorant of the subject you post on. You really should do some proper research before you start bumping your gums.
24

Churchill W.,

01/12/2008 21:16:36
An Greumach Mor # 22

We get the message, you are anti-Muslim. You can quote the Koran, or, supposed interpreations of it until Hell freezes. Did you know that the USA has six different methods of translating Arabic? That is confidence inducing, is it not?

Whatever the Koran says, what matters is how those statements are interpreted by militant Muslim adherents. Irrespective of that, we will deal with the results; they will not win.
The purpose of terrorism is to weaken the resolve of those witnessing terrorist activity; propaganda by the deed. I doubt that the resolve of people in the UK would be undermined by the most determined of terrorist attacks, ever!
25

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 01/12/2008 21:43:48
Hey Winnie - I'm still waiting for that list of conflicts involving terrorism that were resolved militarily and not politically. Come on, it's not polite to keep a lady waiting.
26

Mashimaro,

China 02/12/2008 00:38:09
#25 Tibet
27

Rob Bennett,

Poin Piper Australia 02/12/2008 02:54:55
#6 KampungHighlander,Jakarta
Where have you been living? In a cave perhaps
"The Iraq Body Count bases its figures on violent civilian deaths that are reported in media outlets and, when possible, by other NGO and official sources. While the group's figures represent a serious effort to document reported Iraq deaths, they are much lower than the death tolls assessed through surveys of the Iraqi public--the standard method for assessing casualties of large-scale wars or disasters."

'Both the 2006 Johns Hopkins study and an earlier study conducted by Johns Hopkins (both published in the peer-reviewed British medical journal Lancet, 10/28/04, 10/11/06) estimated a death toll several times larger than that of Iraq Body Count; the more recent Lancet estimate found 601,027 "excess" deaths from violence in Iraq. A more recent survey conducted in August 2007 by the British polling firm Opinion Research Business (ORB) estimated 1.2 million excess violent deaths in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion. And an investigation by the U.N.'s World Health Organization and the Iraqi Health Ministry found, as the Washington Post reported (1/10/08), that "151,000 Iraqis died from violence in the three years following the U.S.-led invasion of the country."
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3654
28

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 02/12/2008 03:55:37
#27 Nob Bent

"the more recent Lancet estimate found 601,027 "excess" deaths from violence in Iraq"

The Lancet study was done by subtracting the current population of Iraq from what it should have been based on prewar demographics and birthrates. So lets count all the children that where not conceived and all the refugees who left as "excess deaths".

Don't let solid facts stand in the way of spouting anti western propaganda.

29

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 02/12/2008 04:00:12
#25 Observer1

Malaysia, the Boer War, The American Revolution......
30

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 02/12/2008 04:41:17
#28 KampungHighlander,"Nob Bent" I like that.Perhaps that it was bent by an American damsel laughing at it? It might explain his phobia with all things American.
Nob Bent is one of those that Paul E Marek describes as irrelevant!
Just wait until the more than 200Million Muslims just north of Australia decide to expand.When they are lobbing rockets into Pipers Point, it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall!
31

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 02/12/2008 04:52:48
#26 Mashimaro, Short,sweet and very true.
#17 Oor Waleed, I must agree with your description of Postmark-55.Been here twice as long as he has.Lots of what he says is perfectly true.Every day life is much better than many places on the planet. His wannabe Chinese at every juncture,is pathetic. Even my (well educated) Chinese wife thinks he has a 'screw loose'
There are of course many things China has to rectify. They are doing it at a phenomenal rate compared to many countries in the west. He can call himself Chinese as long as his fundamental orifice points south,but he will not be recognised as such by the Chinese or anyone else with an atom of grey matter.Sure I have adopted some Chinese habits.Mainly because they make sense.I could use a knife and fork if I wanted to, or be an arrogant westerner in public.I choose not to out of personal preference and respect to my host nation. Nothing else.
He however is delusionally seeking to change what he can't, sad really.
32

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 02/12/2008 04:57:40
#27 Nob Bent, Almost forgot to ask. How did the Wallabies fare at the weekend? Boom-boom!AB's rule heh heh heh.Totally off thread,but I am sure the Scots won't mind savouring the 32-6 drubbing the English sustained?
33

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 02/12/2008 11:26:50
#31 Dragonhead,
Are you finished crying on Oor Waleed's shoulder? Maybe your (well educated) wife can comfort you and put you to bed with some warm milk.
And no I'm not trying to change anything in China, I truly love it for what it is.
If you have a beef with me, take it up with me, crying on someone elses shoulder makes you out like a cry-baby who can't live life by himself, or is that due to the fact that the military has always been there to hold your hand?
Grow up some and I will respect you, blubbering to others the way you are doing deserves no respect.
34

Oor Waleed,

02/12/2008 13:43:02
Postmark 55: aka Chairman Haw Haw, the Sino-Sycophant.

What exactly do you do in China?
35

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 03/12/2008 00:06:47
#30 Bragginhead
“Just wait until the more than 200Million Muslims just north of Australia decide to expand.When they are lobbing rockets into Pipers Point”
Never happen buddy boy.
36

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 03/12/2008 00:14:13
#34 Oor Waleed,
"What exactly do you do in China?"
That, old chap, is classified information your not privy to, for good reasons.
I could care less as to what you do but it sounds as though you're unemployed, waiting for 'Welfare Wednesday' to roll around. Too bad it only comes once a month eh?
37

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 03/12/2008 00:19:31
#31 Bragginhead
“Even my (well educated) Chinese wife”
What on earth is she doing with a drop kick like you?
#32 Bragginhead
The Wallabies are in good shape thanks, ready to kick AB butt. When the Chinese form their own footy team we can send the Wallabies over there to demolish you lot as well. You Kiwi sh..t stirrers wont be so cocky then. Some dodgy decisions by the Irish anti English referee cost England a victory. Here’s a link for you, enjoy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/7757902.stm
38

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 13/12/2008 02:46:30
#37 Rob Bennett Ockerland.
Wallababies ready to kick AB butt? In your dreams.Kiwi sh..t stirrers won't be so cocky then.Hahahahaha!Beer,Footie,bragging about Sheila's you have laid,followed by women.Ocker list of priorities.Me a drop kick? You wish!If China ever does produce Rugby teams, and there is no saying they won't.(The Sevens are played in HongKong and Shanghai How the Wallababies doing in the Sevens?hahahah)The will get beaten to start with (just like in that game with the round ball),then look out!
Could probably cobble together a scratch team from Shaolin, a couple of hours teaching them the rudiments of the game and the Wallababies (like it, must pass it on to the lads)might get a few more surprises!
39

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 13/12/2008 02:50:17
#37 Rob Wallababy! Almost forgot. Thanks for the link,but don't need it. We have BBC, CNN, CNBC, Star Sports, NewsAsia, ESPN,and broadband, just like the rest of the world!!!!!!Oh! you won't have all that in Down underland will you?

 

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