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Published Date: 12 June 2009
FOREIGN Secretary David Miliband was under pressure last night to explain how four Chinese detainees from Guantanamo Bay came to be released to a UK territory without the knowledge of Whitehall.
An urgent security assessment is under way after Bermuda accepted the Chinese Muslims, or Uighurs, without consulting the Foreign Office.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "We have underlined to the Bermuda government that it should have consulte
d the UK on whether this falls within their competence.

"We have made clear to the Bermuda government the need for a security assessment, which we are now helping them to carry out."

He added that the four did not have papers, so could not travel elsewhere at present.

The Uighurs were freed yesterday after being detained at Guantanamo Bay for nearly ten years. They were among 17 Chinese Muslims picked up in Afghanistan and Pakistan in 2001, remaining in Cuba even after the US government determined they should be released.

Bermuda's premier, Ewart Brown, said the men will be allowed to live in Bermuda, a self-governing British territory, initially as refugees, but they would be permitted to pursue citizenship and would have the right to work, travel and "potentially settle elsewhere".

US officials refused to return the Uighurs to China out of concerns they would be tortured or executed. China has long said that insurgents are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang, the region that borders Afghanistan and Pakistan.





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  • Last Updated: 11 June 2009 11:32 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Guantánamo Bay
 
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12/06/2009 00:11:52
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Carolyn 1,

12/06/2009 00:51:42
Okay so money isn't what it used to be, but here's an idea- California is on the verge of bankruptcy and selling assets. You'd think Schwarzenegger could sign over the rock at Alcatraz for less than $200million and still keep it open as a tourist attraction; albeit one with live criminals to look at. Or would Alcatraz be too harsh for these members of the religion peace, and it would be considered torture?
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Lynne,

12/06/2009 02:05:14
Carolyn1.. Pelosi claims Alcatraz is a Ntional Treasure... NIMBY is her excuse.
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Carolyn 1,

12/06/2009 02:56:47
From Atlas Shrugs,
Reading Miranda rights to suspected terrorists,

"You have the right to remain jihad.
Anything you kill will not be used against you in an Obama court of law.
You have the right to Islamic supremacism, and to have an American attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at American taxpayer expense."
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Mashimaro,

China 12/06/2009 03:39:57
Well, China would like them back please, no free to travel the world again.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/06/2009 04:07:35
Guantanamo is only one of many places where similar things happen. It happens in many countries and even on board US Navy ships in the oceans.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Democrat_warns_Obama_risks_future_G_06092009.html

Ron Paul's legislation to audit the federal reserve now has over 218 sponsors, therefore a majority of US Congressmen support it. Will Nancy Pelosi allow it to be voted on? Will the US Senate approve it? Will the government follow through with an effective and honest audit?

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tx14_paul/audit.shtml
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Jock H the Republic of Scotland,

12/06/2009 06:15:32
#8 Whitecaps
"I'm not a terrorist captured warring against the United States or any member of NATO"

Now how do we know that? Do you have proof to that effect or are you all mouth? As Dwayne correctly pointed out the US and Nato have no right to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan. How many more body bags will it take before they learn their lesson?

#16 Edmond's Comment
All the trolls are out to play.
So no comment on the story about Guantanamo? Everyone is having a debate about Guantanamo and you pop in with ridiculous remarks. All foreigners should stay on their own soil as Carolyn suggested in an earlier post.
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Mashimaro,

China 12/06/2009 08:44:59
could we have our terrorists back please
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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 12/06/2009 13:43:03
Ordinary Americans have told Obama they do not want them roaming free in America.OK! Now no one else wants them either,other than the place where they should be returned,China.
Now if they are not a threat, and are not terrorists,why has it been necessary to "BRIBE" Palau with a US$200 Million dollar "Aid Package" to take them?
In these hard economic times, that is an awful lot of money to "give away" for 17 poor homeless men.
All 17 have been proud to extol that they are members of the organization which is seeking to cecede from China.Out of their own mouths.Now I have a small problem with that, as the said organization is recognised as a "Terrorist Organization" by the Unitied Nations!!
Should these fine upstanding, proud,homeless individuals not return to their previous ways, it will not because they are not terrorists.It will be because they have also "BEEN BOUGHT"!
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12/06/2009 14:02:17
Mashimaro was right. These terrorists should be sent back to China.

How very stupid of those Americans in authority to allow this kind of arrangement, letting the terrorists off to roam freely? Where terrorists are concerned, following PC should be out of question. After all these terrorists know no rules and order. They live to kill. If they have caught or kidnapped the Americans (take for example), don’t expect to see them coming out alive. Sooner the victims will be tortured to death if not chopping off the heads by the terrorists.
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Carolyn 1,

12/06/2009 15:07:10
Dragonhead @22
All 17 have been proud to extol that they are members of the organization which is seeking to cecede from China.Out of their own mouths."


here's a thought:
What with $200 million maybe Palau could become the free version of China,
the poor, the oppressed, the hungry and tired yearning to be free will be loading up their rafts and boats sailing for the island of freedom...
okay, so it's a long boat trip, but so was the Nina, Pinta and the Santa Maria :)
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Sgian Achlais,

12/06/2009 15:48:23
26Mr Sunshine, Scotland 12/06/2009 15:21:24
Well the Guantanamo inmates have finally received some form of justice now they should be compensated for their wrongful arrest and the foul disgusting torture inflicted upon them while they were chained up by cowards.

Only a coward attacks another man when he's chained up.

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The USA over reacted to the Islamist threat and jumped in display a show of force.

That is very different from the terrorists being innocent.

Islamic Jihadists armed to the teeth roaming around Afghanistan and Pakistan the current battlefield of choice for Jihadists.

We put them in jail. They behead and desecrate our dead soldiers.

Recently they beheaded and skinned a couple of french special forces in afghanistan but the media did not report it for respect to the families.

We have enough problems and these terrorists will now organise and attempt to continue the jihad. They are not going to relax on the beach.

Give all jihadist terrorists to the Chinese and let them solve the problem for us with a firing squad.

I may disagree with much about Chinese politics but they have the right idea about the Islamic cancer.

Cut it out and kill it before you need radioactive treatment to solve the problem.

Islam needs to be reformed or eradicated in the same way as the Nazi's
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Mashimaro,

China 12/06/2009 16:14:47
Carolyn... here's a thought... let's bomb Palau for harbouring terrorists. Let's scream and shout and get the UN to put them on the black list. Sanctions, I say! Let's search their ships! Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists.
PS Palau isn't big enough to take our poor and tired. Perahps we'll send them to the US.
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12/06/2009 16:15:12
Jock H the Republic of Scotland @17
All foreigners should stay on their own soil as Carolyn suggested in an earlier post."



I think this is the gist of my deleted comment:

I never said, foreigners should stay on their own soil....

Are you hearing things now?
Are there angels too?
Are you seeing great porpoise leaping from the waters with rainbows?
Are you seeing unicorns?
Do you hear voices that you can free the French from the English?
Is the vision of the coronation at Reims in full panoramic color?
Awww, we feel sorry for you and do hope your recovery
to a robust health is speedy!


the fact that you can't take a comment such as this written in jest, but you dish out on a daily basis very vulgar, sexist and misogynist remarks, shows you to be the coward you are. For that, my friend, there is no pill to cure you.
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Mashimaro,

China 12/06/2009 16:16:32
#26 "Only a coward attacks another man when he's chained up."

That and "the war wasn't an even fight" have to be the two stupidest comments I've seen all week. Perhaps you would like them to give the suspects knives and guns and then try to attack them... oh wait, they had those in the first place.
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12/06/2009 16:19:07
Mashimaro @28
Perahps we'll send them to the US."

You already did, and thanks :)
They're great scientists, doctors, engineers, IT techies...
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Taz,

The Land of the Free 12/06/2009 17:41:17
Re: "20 Mashimaro,China 12/06/2009 08:44:59
could we have our terrorists back please"

I must agree with ole Mash on this one. They are Chinese who were in training to commit terrorist acts on their native country. China has the right to have them handed over.
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Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

13/06/2009 00:23:26
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Ummm, does that mean China has a right to be in Tibet as well? Does not China oppress various Peoples because they will not 'Do as they're Told' by a communist government? Something which we would have encouraged not so very long ago.

Tiananmen Square Ladies and Gents', Tibet.
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13/06/2009 01:06:42
Its clear!! these suspects are to much of a risk and should NOT be allowed into Bermuda (a short cut into the UK and free benefits etc).

All those who are so righteous as to give them the benefit of the doubt should put THEIR money where THEIR mouth is and the life of their family and themselves on the line or shut up.
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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 13/06/2009 04:03:26
The answers are there in history. "The muslims believe everything comes from Allah.Now I am here,it is ALLAH'S WILL".Ghengis Khan.
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Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 13/06/2009 12:42:24
President Flip-flop is again saying by this action, NOT IN MY BACK YARD. Why? Does he want them as a distraction,while he flip-flops backwards and forwards.He has just flip-flop'd on the Gay marriage issue which he used as one of the cornerstones to get the gay vote. An Arab/American Blair! Not "Black American",but ARAB!!!!
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oder,

Scotland 13/06/2009 23:18:01
Jock H the Republic of Scotland

you are a terrorist appeaser! Judeophobic troll!

Vida Dosa? more like "dozy Dosa"!
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Age of Reason,

Aberdeen 14/06/2009 08:22:45
Wait a ctn-pkn-minit you guys.
First - moslem people are not 'they' in any differential prejudicial sense. Just followers of a respectable religion, which has its fringes (as does the Kirk)
Second - current inmates of Gitmo are not guilty of any proven crime by evidence or legal judgment. So all should be charged or freed.
And we should welcome them to our just society.
Finally - Bermuda has a right to make its own judgments about whom it admits and second-hand arguments about who may or may not be worthy of entry to Fortress UK are not admissible.
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oder,

Scotland 15/06/2009 21:40:04
Jock H the Republic of Scotland


see you have quite a few new names!

yer isna fair swippert wi` yer fiddle-fike! finger o`scorn!
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Auburon,

Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A. 16/06/2009 16:36:44
Just send them all to Newfoundland, supplied with all the Screech they can drink.

 

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