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Published Date: 21 September 2008
By Nicole Lange in Cologne
GERMAN police yesterday banned a right-wing nationalist group from staging a rally against a mosque in Cologne.
Police spokesman Burkhard Rick said the rally was cancelled because of the security risk posed to officers and other citizens.

The Pro-Cologne group had hoped to protest against plans to build a large mosque in the city's heavily immigrant Ehrenfe
ld district.

Rick says 3,000 officers were stationed in Cologne to maintain peace between two groups. Just 30 Pro-Cologne supporters had gathered at the site of the planned rally by mid-day yesterday but more than 5,000 counter demonstrators had gathered outside Cologne's famous cathedral for a peaceful counter-rally.

The demonstration was organised as part of a three-day conference decrying what protestors call the city's "Islamification".

Opening events on Friday were severely hampered when hundreds of largely peaceful protesters managed to prevent the group's leaders from holding a news conference in a municipal building.

Chancellor Angela Merkel's appointee for immigration affairs, Maria Boehmer, sharply condemned the nationalist gathering saying "there is no place" in Germany for "far-right groups that pose as grass roots movements, but aim only to discriminate against minorities".



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  • Last Updated: 20 September 2008 8:54 PM
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1

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 21/09/2008 04:11:12
As long as you are a muslim, you can protest (and not peacefully either)with placards reading " Kill all those who insult Islam","Europe is the Cancer, Islam is the cure","UK's 9/11 is on the way", etc,etc,etc. The new Pandemic (my term for PC)PC stifles all protest against Muslims. When my mother in UK telephoned us here in China last Sunday, her UK Telecom calling card greeted her with, "Have a Happy Ramadan"! What next? Iranian Telecom's equivalent greeting us with "Have a Happy Easter or Christmas".This nonsense has to be stopped, and now!
2

albanman,

21/09/2008 08:47:02
Hey dumb-in-head, I see you're still spouting your bigotry. Ramadan is a time of prayer and fasting (you should try some) and Muslims do not greet each other with "Happy Ramadan". You're ignorance shows that you are also a liar. By the way, before you jump to any conclusion(but I'm probably too late) - I'm a Christian.
3

albanman,

21/09/2008 08:49:30
Of course, the above should read "Your ignorance" rather than the possessive.
4

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21/09/2008 13:16:31
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P·K ,

21/09/2008 15:39:48
#2

What Ramadan a time of prayer and fasting??? Get a life. Suicide bombing and killing continue as it is. Who care if you're a Christian, Muslim or from other religions?

6

Finnking,

Lempäälä 21/09/2008 16:28:58
Brage

In some ways I agree, however I feel we should avoid the trap of generalities. The VAST majority of "Muslims" are simply normal everyday folk who abhor violence, as too "Americans". It's the owning and controlling classes of some Muslim states that interpret the Koran to control their herd (in the same way as Christian kirks did. not so very long ago). So too in the USA, poll after poll say that the normal everyday US citizen would rather have decent health care and eduction instead of the massive cost of war but the US owning and controlling classes deny that democratic desire; in much the same way as some Islamic states do. Sure, there are a very few so called Muslims who, without having State credentials, will use faith as a rally call for bombing. But, let's be honest, it was the same in the 'troubles'.Faith being used to divide people and provide an easily digested framework for the justification of violence. That said, some violence is, IMO, morally justified: Picts fighting the Romans, Afghans fighting the Russians, Afghans fighting the US/'uk'/NATO, Irish fighting the 'Brits', Palestinians fighting the Israeli etc. My problem with such 'justifiable' violence is that it normally involves the killing of innocent civilians; non 'soldiers'. Hitting property is fine with me but killing fellow humans,humans who happen to have a different propaganda model and oppressive owning/controlling class than yours, is simply absurd.

State has a monopoly on terror and the moral justifications for that terror. Look at the media exposure of this event (article) and compare with how the media responds with a)90 Afghans killed by (Christan) USA, again, and/or b) over a million Iraqi dead and millions fled.

Trying to keep a suitably calibrated moral compass is difficult at the present time, aye?!

Take care.
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21/09/2008 17:47:22
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2dogs in D.C.,

21/09/2008 18:03:54
Protest, be it "right" or "left" is, in my opinion, a basic human right. 'Nuff said.
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21/09/2008 18:14:35
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Itchy,

22/09/2008 06:23:14
#6 "The VAST majority of "Muslims" are simply normal everyday folk who abhor violence, "

Is the Koran not full of violence?

"That said, some violence is, IMO, morally justified: Picts fighting the Romans, Afghans fighting the Russians, Afghans fighting the US/'uk'/NATO, Irish fighting the 'Brits', Palestinians fighting the Israeli etc."

Nice bit of moral equivalence.

Come on the British and and the Americans and the Israelis.

"It's the owning and controlling classes of some Muslim states that interpret the Koran to control their herd "

Marxist drivel.
11

James Donald,

Newbridge 22/09/2008 08:47:28
"Opening events on Friday were severely hampered when hundreds of largely peaceful protesters managed to prevent the group's leaders from holding a news conference in a municipal building".
The BBC reports it rather differently:
Stone-throwing protesters have disrupted the opening of a right-wing conference against the building of a giant mosque in Cologne, Germany.
The demonstrators blocked two leaders of the Pro-Cologne movement from entering the conference venue, pursuing them as they sought refuge on a boat.
The "anti-Islamification" event has drawn speakers from across Europe. Its main event is a march on Saturday.
But opponents are predicting a massive counter-demonstration.
German nationalist leaders had hoped to give a press conference at a building in Cologne, but were barracked by a crowd of dozens, and turned away by a city official on orders from the mayor.
They sought refuge on a boat on the Rhine river, which demonstrators then pelted with stones and paintballs. Police arrested several of them, the Associated Press reported".
At events of this type there are always extremely violent Antifa types who are only interested in conflict.

12

James Donald,

Newbridge 22/09/2008 15:13:08
More from the BBC about the "largely peaceful protesters" in Cologne:
"STREET CLASHES ERUPT IN GERMANY
Thousands of left-wing demonstrators gathered to protest against an extreme right-wing rally have clashed with police in the German city of Cologne.
Police said about 3,000 protesters threw stones at officers, while some tried to steal their weapons".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7627047.stm
The violent thugs of the extreme left try to cloak themselves with the "antifa" (Anti-Fascist) label but they are, in reality, "class warriors" in the mould of the scum of the Baader-Meinhof and Rote Armee Fraktion.



13

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

22/09/2008 21:19:39
All man made religions stink...they can all be adapted, and are, to suit cultures that need to control and oppress, and they do...2008 fir crying out loud and wimmin are hiding their hair or covering it with wigs....if something as ludicrously simple as that can be accepted what else is going on to control people and dictate the path of their lives?
14

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 23/09/2008 09:27:17
#2 Albanman, Liar am I? Well if that is the case.Why when my mother (a Good Scottish Presbyterian)rang up telecom to ask about it,that the person who answered her call said "Oh! you should not have one of those, we have had so many complaints about them,they have been withdrawn"? As for my ignorance about muslims and their faith,I lived for two years in Libya, across from the OEA Brewery and the Libya Palace hotel in Tripoli, near a mosque.Experienced two Ramadans and the ending of it, when neighbours slaughtered goats in the yard beside us. As a christian, I take exception to your sanctimonious rant.Most un-christian it was to! As for your "muslims don't greet each other...etc"Where did I say a Muslim greetedd her?The person who greeted my mother on the card was an english speaking Telecom employee!Jumping to conclusions me?Sounds more like you shooting yourself in the foot.Oh!before you jump to any more conclusions, I am a Christian.
15

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 23/09/2008 09:45:41
#12 JD,Newbridge, Was in Germany during the height of the Baader Meinhof and Rote Armee Faktion (not no 'r'after the 'F')era.
As for the BBC, after watching a rally in Ulster,live through a window and on TV beside me at the same time, will be a long time I believe anything they report on!
Isn't it strange that the lefties always call those who oppose Islamification Facists Right wing etc?
Perhaps you should re-read what you have written.Rote Armee Faktion was the early name for the Baader-Meinhoff Group, who were a "Communist left wing organization"They didn't cloak themselves,THEY WERE THE CLASS WARRIORS of their era, dyed in the wool COMMUNISTS.Nothing to do with the right wing at all.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 23/09/2008 13:12:41
#15 Dragonhead,Dalian,Red China - "Was in Germany during the height of the Baader Meinhof and Rote Armee Faktion" - As was I but I think you will find that the German title of this group was the Rote Armee Fraktion, ("Faction" was often used in the English translation of Red Army Faction - the group used the word "Fraktion" quite deliberately).
I don't think I implied that the Baader-Meinhof Gang/ Rote Armee Faktion were anything other than "dyed in the wool Communists" but the Antifa groups in Germany today are (slightly) more sophisticated. Still the same dross working towards "class war" but prepared to highjack any cause which will afford them the opportunity to attack the so-called far Right as well as representatives of the (Capitalist) state, such as the Police. These individuals are highly organised (I doubt many of these "left-wing demonstrators" were actually from Cologne) and certainly not interested in peaceful demonstration at all.
Maria Boehmer stated that "there isno place" in Germany for "far-right groups that pose as grass roots movements, but aim only to discriminate against minorities". Yet she is apparently prepared to accept left wing extremists committed to violence against fellow citizens and the Police, who's actual aim is class war and the overthrow of the capitalist state. Strange woman.

17

American,

23/09/2008 19:00:26
#1-dragonhead-my thoughts exactly!! I guess these foolish muslim extremists sympathizers never saw those signs or heard those "chants" you're speaking of. But then again if they did, these fools would still find a way to somehow defend them.
18

Itchy,

23/09/2008 22:26:51
#6"Afghans fighting the US/'uk'/NATO"

Cheering on the Taliban militia, are we?

You truly are loathsome.

 

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