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Paris protests douse Olympic torch



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Published Date: 08 April 2008
SECURITY officials were forced to extinguish the Olympic torch four times and cut short its passage through Paris yesterday as anti-China protests turned violent.
Riot police in body armour clashed with demonstrators waving Tibetan flags on the latest stage of the torch's relay that is due to cover 20 countries ahead of the Beijing Olympics. The Chinese have described it as a "journey of harmony".

Despite
a security cordon of 3,000 police, some on roller blades, activists protesting against China's crackdown in Tibet managed to disrupt seriously the latest leg of the torch's 85,000-mile journey from Olympia in Greece to Beijing, where the games take place in August.

Organisers were eventually forced to abandon the relay of the Olympic torch through the French capital as a result of disruption by thousands of pro– Tibetan protesters. After a number of incidents, the decision was taken shortly before 5pm to take the Olympic flame by bus to its final French destination, the Charléty Stadium.

Shortly before, the flame had passed the National Assembly, where 40 MPs from all parties, sporting their red, white and blue sashes, shouted "Freedom for Tibet".

A ceremony in front of the city hall was cancelled at the request of Chinese officials, after elected Paris officials displayed the Tibetan flag and unrolled a banner showing the five Olympic rings transformed into five interlocking handcuffs.

The French demonstrations followed the arrest of 37 people during pro-Tibet protests that disrupted Sunday's torch relay in London.

Last night it appeared that the tradition of an international torch relay could be abandoned for the 2012 Olympics in London.

Officials are drawing up plans to carry a torch around the UK, but the 70-year-old tradition of an Olympic flame lit in Greece and carried around the world by athletes may not be continued.

A spokeswoman for the London Olympics denied that the uncertainty about an international relay was in response to the pro-Tibetan demonstrations.

Jacques Rogge, the president of the International Olympic Committee, expressed concern over both the situation in Tibet and the torch protests. "The International Olympic Committee calls for a rapid, peaceful resolution in Tibet," he said. He also condemned attempts to disrupt the torch relay, saying violent protests, "for whatever reason", are "not compatible with the values of the torch relay or the Olympic Games".

Even before the chaos in London, Paris police had conceived an elaborate security plan to keep the torch in a safe "bubble". French torchbearers were to be encircled by several hundred police officers, some in anti-riot vehicles and on motorcycles, others on skates and on foot.

However, things started to go wrong almost from the start.

A member of the French Green Party was restrained by police after trying to grab the torch from the first of the 80 bearers, Stephane Diagana, the former world 400-metres hurdles champion.

Diagana said afterwards: "Nothing's happening as it was meant to. It's a shame. It's sad because of what this symbol represents, but it can be explained by the context we're aware of."

Police were forced a number of times to extinguish the torch and transfer it to a bus, as officers cleared protesters from the route. The Olympic flame itself was kept alight in a safety lantern.

At least 18 people were arrested, including the vice-president of the Greater Paris council.

Meanwhile, three protesters climbed up the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and tied the Tibetan flag and two banners to its cables. The banners read "One World One Dream. Free Tibet"

Last night the US Democratic Party presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, called on the president, George Bush, to boycott the opening ceremony of the Olympics unless China improved its human rights record.

• Fiona Hyslop, the education secretary, who was in China yesterday raised concerns about human rights, particularly the situation in Tibet.

A Scottish Government spokesman said: "Fiona Hyslop did raise the Scottish Government's concerns with China's vice-minister of education."

HARMONY IN SHORT SUPPLY

WHEN the route of the Olympic torch was unveiled in Beijing a year ago, there was concern at the plan to take it on to Mount Everest.

Campaigners had been arrested days earlier at the base of the mountain for demanding Tibet's independence after more than 50 years of Chinese occupation.

There was also surprise that Taiwan – seen as a rebel state by China's Communist leaders – was on the route. Taiwan's government only let the torch to go on to the island after guarantees that this would not compromise its status.

The relay, beginning with the torch lighting in Olympia, Greece, was to pass through 21 cities and last 130 days. It was dubbed a "journey of harmony" – something that now seems laughable.





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  • Last Updated: 08 April 2008 12:41 AM
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1

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 08/04/2008 01:38:08

Despite a security cordon of 3,000 police, some on roller blades, activists protesting against China's crackdown in Tibet managed to disrupt seriously the latest leg of the torch's 85,000-mile journey from Olympia in Greece to Beijing,
Organisers were eventually forced to abandon the relay of the Olympic torch through the French capital as a result of disruption by thousands of pro– Tibetan protesters.
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Dudes,
The French know how to protest . ..Bastille is in their blood.

So Dudes U in Scotland especially the SNP fanatics.

What did U do to protest this flame on its way to CHINA .. Where 1.3 billion people cannot VOTE....Say What !!!.

Did I hear nothing !!!! just usual squawking.

Well let me tell U, when that flame gets to the West Coast, the protests will match anything the French did and more.

We love the athletes who spend their young lives preparing to be the beat .

But the fact that a Tyrannical Communist Gang the CCP/PLA are hosting the Olympics is a human tragedy.


The Olympic committee are a bunch of wimps and they suck.

Galactic Cannibal will be protesting in San Francisco
GC

2

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 08/04/2008 01:39:45
#1 correction ..
beat should read best.

GC
3

Navier Stokes,

08/04/2008 02:03:48
an interesting piece

ahdu88.blogspot.com/2006/04/san-francisco-terror-in-china.html
4

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/04/2008 02:05:56
China Lies

BEIJING, April 8 (Xinhua) -- Foreign media reports saying the Olympic torch was forced to be extinguished during the relay in Paris were false, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu said early Tuesday morning.

The modes of the relay in Paris were temporarily changed to safeguard the security and dignity of the Olympic torch under the circumstances there, Jiang said in a statement released by the ministry.

"The reports by foreign media are false in claiming that the Olympic torch was forced to be extinguished during its relay in Paris," said Jiang.

The torch relay in Paris has now safely completed as scheduled, she said.
5

The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 02:29:35
Your average Chinese bloke in the street hasn't got the slightest idea that these protests are taking place, thus they are not embarrassing the Chinese thugocracy domestically.

If you really want to send Beijing a message it will listen to, then start a campaign to boycott their goods.

The political situation in China is much more shaky than most Westerners realise, and it wouldn't take much for the whole house of cards to collapse. The Chinese top dogs are obsessed with "social stability" as they know just how touch and go the situation really is.

China is a potential powder keg with 900 million out of a total population of 1.3 billion living in poverty.

A recession based on the widespread rejection of Chinese made goods could be enough to bring the fragile status quo to the tipping point, as there is a great deal of seething tension just under the surface.

A Chinese government that no longer had bribe money to throw around, along with a financially disenfranchised middle class, an out of work working class, and 900 million angry peasants, would find itself in deep trouble.
6

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/04/2008 03:13:29
I lived in Shanghai for quite sometime and from what I know of the Chinese People the imposition of sanctions would be viewed by most as an attack on China and not on its Governments policy's. I think it would just drive them further into their xenophobic shell.

I don't think that the Torch Protests alone will be enough to topple the regime in China. They will however cause a serious lose of face for a Government that many in China are starting to question.

The things that could bring down this evil regime is there own corruption and economic mismanagement. Many people in China are starting to suffer from the 11% inflation eroding there savings while the banks only give them 4%. The stockmarket has fallen 40% from its October highs and house prices are starting to fall.

If China changes it will because the CCP has failed to manage the economy.
7

postmark54,

Chongqing, China 08/04/2008 03:14:25
The Daleks #6,
your quote "A recession based on the widespread rejection of Chinese made goods could be enough to bring the fragile status quo to the tipping point, as there is a great deal of seething tension just under the surface.
That's a nice way of saying boycott, which will only hurt the poor, the resr are rich beyond your wildest dreams, so you will only hurt the innocent, not the targetted ones.
8

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/04/2008 04:52:06
One way you could bring a great deal of pressure to the Chinese economy, probably even enough to bring about a systemic collapse, without using sactions would be to impose a carbon tax.

China's CO2 to GDP Ratio is 4 times that of the US and 8 times that of Europe. If you introduced a Carbon tax that would raise the price of European Goods by 5% and US Goods by 10% it would raise the cost of Chinese exports by 40%.

This would wipe out any competetive advantage that they have and would have the added benefit of reducing CO2 production.
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The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 05:04:21
#7

I think you underestimate the Chinese people's ability to differentiate between their government and their country. Although, without a doubt, they do live in a xenophobic shell almost to a man/woman.

However, regardless of how the ordinary Chinese perceived a boycott/sanctions the whole regime is built on shifting sands, and a major economic downturn would most likely herald oblivion for the CPC.

Peasant demonstrations are already widespread and ongoing throughout the country (check back editions of the Guardian etc) and with rampant inflation currently driving up food prices etc, any financial blow to the middle and working classes would greatly increase unrest.

China may appear to be a mighty edifice, but in reality it is rather more of a paper tiger than you might imagine.
10

The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 05:10:26
#8 P45

The China "expert" who thought that the Great Wall went all the way round China, and was happy to be called "laowai" an abusive term for a foreigner!!

Perhaps if you learned more about the people and the system you staunchly defend, you might be less inclined to stick your neck out for them, day in and day out.
11

K.C.,

Los Angeles, U.S.A. 08/04/2008 06:10:58
It is good for the west and indians (who are jeolous of China) to show their real faces to the Chinese.

To all Chinese: enjoy the good show your government has put much efforts in. After this time, boycott the Olympics eternally.

China is a big country with huge domestic market potential. China has lived past 5000 years even when the west were scratching their balls on the tree. China will live for another 5000 years without the need to associate with these monkeys.

Jesus Christ, what? Your God was born 3000 years after the Chinese civilization? LOL!

Chinese has the patient. One day, when time is right, Chinese will strike back. Revenge is sweet and time is on the Chinese side.
12

Pilrig.,

Livingston 08/04/2008 06:25:59
Liberty, Fraterity & Equality. Tenets alien to the gangsters in Beijing
13

The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 07:30:35
#12 KC (and the Sunshine Band).

Thank you KC, you illustrate perfectly the rabid xenophobia that I have regularly encountered on my visits to China.

The deeply entrenched Chinese cultural outlook views all non-Chinese as "non-human" and the world outside China as inherently inferior. For you deists, that includes your gods, as KC points out.

You might want to remember this next time you're thinking of choosing the "made in China" label.

14

Unimpressed one,

08/04/2008 08:01:04
#6, "A recession based on the widespread rejection of Chinese made goods could be enough to bring the fragile status quo to the tipping point, as there is a great deal of seething tension just under the surface."

A recession would be right, but in the rest of the world. Our present standard of living is largely dependent on Chinese manufacturing. If this is under threat so too would be millions of jobs, mainly in the retail sector. Of course the statement those who live in glass houses comes to mind....
15

The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 09:20:16
#16

Sorry, but a recession in China doesn't mean a recession in the rest of the world. For that we would have to be pumping limitless exports into China, rather than the other way around.

As for a fall in our standards of living should China go into recession, wrong again.

It wouldn't do our own manufacturing industry any harm either.

There are plenty of countries like Thailand and India lining up to take China's place as the home of cheap manufacturing, and the slack would soon be taken up.
16

Biker,

Ayr 08/04/2008 09:31:31
clarry. Do you post these comments after giving it some thought, or is this just another missplaced asian lacky? I suspect the latter.
17

albanman,

08/04/2008 09:50:21
Banners from the Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame; having to extinquish the flame 4 times for protective reasons...God bless the French...they know how to protest.

As for those chilling guys in blue during the London stage; supposedly 'keepers of the flame', yet they scuffled with the police as much as anyone else. They are probably members of the Chinese military or secret service. I hope the US authorities keep them on the proverbial leash.

It's sad that people have to use the Olympic torch to make a point about Tibet - but at least now the world is paying some attention to the plight of that occupied country. Sadly, it proabably won't last.
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Mashimaro,

China 08/04/2008 10:02:43
Hmmm... the UK tries to put the torch out... the French put it out...

But China has the last laugh by putting it out forever.

Whooo hooooooo, way to go boys.

BTW, have any of you pinheads ever thought that if you got your companies to invest in Tibet that within a few years, flush with money, Tibet would be the new Hong Kong and Macau peace would rein?

Nah, I didn't think so.
20

Mashimaro,

China 08/04/2008 10:05:57
Thank you KC, you illustrate perfectly the rabid xenophobia that I have regularly encountered on my visits to China.

It would seem the xenophobia was quite correct. Do you think the Chinese are ever going to open up to the west after you have shown yourselves to be exactly what they think you are?
21

The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 10:15:11
#24 Marshmallow

What a jolly little troll you are.

And as for claiming to be Chinese, doesn't your moniker have more of a Japanese ring to it!!?

Just looked it up, it's a rubbish cartoon rabbit from Korea.
22

Deuchars,

Edinburgh - FH 08/04/2008 10:26:39
25 The Daleks

Speaking of Trolls, I wonder where Horrible Cankers is?
23

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 08/04/2008 10:39:19
If these stupid irresponsible thugs keep this disruption up we are likely to see the end of the Olympics. As to win an Olympic medal has to be the ultimate highlight of a sportsmans carreer this would be very sad. The sport watching public would lose a magnificent event.
It is time to crack down **** on these nutters - arrest the lot and ship them off to Tibet.
(I have just been censored for using the word hard before on !!!!!!!!!)
24

postmark54,

Chongqing, China 08/04/2008 10:40:22
The Daleks,
I was aware that the Great Wall did not go around all of China, I'm aware and always have been aware that it runs across more of a northern section of China from east to west, I just did not realize that in its days of defence that it was in sections, I had always been told that it was a continues wall without a break. There again, try to read for a change. Also, why is it that you visit China if you hate it so much? By coming here you are supporting our economy, really hypocritical on your part. You are the type that smile in our faces and stab us in the back. We don't need the likes of you and your stinking money.
I don't know how many of you Daleks there are, but you are a collective bunch of boneheads. China does not welcome you in any way.
25

The Daleks,

Longmen 08/04/2008 10:55:16
#28 P45

"Our" "Us"

But I thought you were a Canadian you silly sausage!!
26

Guga II,

Rockall 08/04/2008 11:22:55
#12 KC. You obviously have a great distaste for races other than the Chinese. This being so, why do you live in America? Do you tell the Americans around you just how much you hate them? Do you call them monkeys too?

#23 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit). You are seriously losing the plot.

#28 Postbox. Caught out! Since when does an alleged Canadian talk about the Chinese in terms of "our", "us" and "we"?

Where are Wee Dong and Druginhead? They are being very quiet at the moment, especially the latter. Then again, maybe Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit) is really Druginhead.
27

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 11:40:27
26....Hi honey I'm home!!!!

Aye P45 is always referring to 'us' when he talks about the Chinese...bit of a give away eh?...in post 8 he comments that a boycott would only hurt the poor because the rest are

"Ritch beyond your wildest dreams"

Thats the Utopian Communist dream of China eh?...what a crock of shoite....the CCP is an imperialist regime implementing communist policies so that those in control can live the capitalist dream they so yearn for....

"Four legs good two legs better?".....damn right!
28

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 11:43:13
K.C. and his 'Sunshine Band'...my you are pretty adept at pulling them out of a hat..heh heh heh heh heh heh..hows the 'American vacation' going Mushy my friend?...good weather I hope?...mind look me up when you get to Europe....heh heh heh heh...
29

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 12:33:35
Must be dinner time ower by...the 'Sunshine Band' hiv disappeared again..
30

Mashimaro,

China 08/04/2008 12:41:15
Postmark refers to China as us and we because he has adopted the Chinese nation as his own.

Googoo I see you still haven't managed to get your head around the fact that despite your lies about genocide in Tibet the Tibetan ethnic population is the fastest growing group in China... and... poof...there goes guga, never having to respond to that.

Cankers...troll away my dear. Postmark has played you for the fool you are. Tell me, do you have a life or do you just hang around this area pumping up the posts. Management paying you well?
31

Mashimaro,

China 08/04/2008 12:44:09
GOOGOO #12 KC. You obviously have a great distaste for races other than the Chinese. This being so, why do you live in America? Do you tell the Americans around you just how much you hate them? Do you call them monkeys too?"

ha ha ha, goofy, he's just the advance guard of another Han invasion, laying claim to the country that is rightfully ours. Cat's paw THAT.

32

Mashimaro,

China 08/04/2008 12:52:07
#25 Daleks... well done on looking up my nick. Hey, maybe I'm in *gasp* NORTH Korea. whaa ha ha ha aa ha.

No, seriously, Mashi the wabbit is very very popular here too. I didn't think Harmonious Fists would go down too well and it was the best I could come up with on short notice when i wanted to reply to a post on the stupid Brits getting all "conspiracy theory" on the Russians
33

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 13:03:35
34....AAaaah so...now you speak for P45?...

"He has adopted the Chinese nation as his own"...I dont think so bud....he is Chinese..go on...admit it!...

Not very honourable...

BOYCOTT THE OLYMPICS!

FREE THE PANCHEN LAMA!!
34

Mashimaro,

China 08/04/2008 13:30:07
# Troll,go back and look at the posts - which reminds me, do you get paid per post or per hour. I'm guessing per hour cos your posts are gowsi.
35

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 13:46:20
My irreverence and dishonouring of the barbaric CCP comes free of charge dog whang muncher...
36

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08/04/2008 15:47:25
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 16:00:35
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/5371500.stm

Cheers pal but I'l stick tae the stir fried tofu...get a load o' that report tho'...and jist imagine that lot on yer plate..

"No 45, penis hotpot!"

Aye...great leap backwards merr like...
38

AJ Fife,

08/04/2008 16:12:33
Canky,

Eating deep fried wullie isnae fur me, but the reindeer foetus soonded promising!:)

I'd expect a dish like that wid be too deer though!!!!!!
39

AJ Fife,

08/04/2008 16:13:53
clarry,

Why are you making an issue of that, I certainly wasn't!
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Biker,

Ayr 08/04/2008 16:50:30
KC 12. You are indeed correct, China has existed far beyond our tabulated history. Pity they hav'nt progressed any. A post as stupid as that deserves to be laughed at.
As for the hour of the day Mashers. I come on here just to read the innanities and stupidity thrown up by a ludcrous and transparent government. Tell me why I can have a serious conversation with you on other posts but you present yourself as an idiot on the latter ones?
41

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 17:10:17
44...Aye well each tae thir own...bit if any man o' mine had been chompin on stewed whang 'ed be preoccupied wae 'es ain fir a long time tae come...widnae git within 4 feet o' me!

46...Biker, that is indeed a very good question, methinks that it is tactics..what he/they are hoping to achieve, who knows.....but they aint achieving it..
42

Media 1,

cape town 08/04/2008 18:01:03
So they doused the olympic torch. hahaha
Watching these farcical demonstrations from another planet you would be excused for thinking the protesters were against the olympics, not China!
Why cant protesters focus on protesting against the REAL cause for concern? Why must they hi-jack a flame to get thei point across? Why not stand outside the Chinese embassy day after day until you make your point. Why not remove all Chinese products from your house hold and deny China a place in your life in any form? Why not grow up?

If we follow the mindset of those against the olympic flame. We would need to ban the SPL because their strips are made in China. We would need to ban the FA Cup because many of the boots the players are wearing are made in China.
We would need to ask that the SFA close down because Scotland are involved in an illegal war in Iraq and we cannot have a football team.
I find those who protest against airport extensions are the same people who protest against China, and none of them appear to be in touch with the real world because none of them can cope in the real world. They need to get a life and grow up! Fighting for better human rights is noble, it is good and it should be respected, but when it is done by a bunch of people hell bent on creating chaos for the sake of it, I lose interest.
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Media 1,

cape town 08/04/2008 18:26:21
Bob Christie

Or Bob, maybe you could say!

Well done to all those who carried the torch for being adult enough to note the difference between the olympics and politics. And shame on those who protested by hi-jacking a wee flame as opposed to tackling the REAL issues they pretend to really care about.
44

Media 1,

cape town 08/04/2008 18:38:24
Bob Christie

So you wont be shopping at Tesco or Asda in the near future, or watching the SPL or catching a bus? Those Chinese products at Asda and Tesco, the plastic used to wrap the many products, the football boots the players wear in the SPL as well as the strips not to mention the boots on THOSE tyres on the busses.

Or will you not go that far Bob? Yeah thought not, attack a wee flame and pretend to care, that will do it. lmfao (pathetic)
45

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 18:47:26
Protesting is a 'human right' Media1...it is the mark of a civilized society that its people can protest and not be murdered because of it....

Your attitude is pathetic and delusional...if you think that people are going to gather to protest and wave a wee banner silently you need to get a grip of yourself....China's human rights abuse is an emotive susbject and will bring out the anger in decent human beings...when you have a copper drags you to the ground, handcuffs you and then throws you in the back of a van...for filming and taking photos....expect trouble..
46

Media 1,

Cape Town 08/04/2008 19:05:17
Horrible Cankers

Is that right. So China's human rights is emotive and it brings out the anger in decent human beings. So all those who carried the flame are not decent? And tell me why only now it is time to protest when you have all known China was host seven years ago?
Yes thats right the police are to blame! For goodness sake, the police dedicate their lives to protecting people. Remember the policeman who left his wife and child at his parents house a few years ago after a nice Christmas dinner and was shot by a savage monster criminal? Yeah remember him? Well people like him dedicate their lives protecting people lke you from harm and when people who protest use the "RIGH TO EXPRESS" as a right to create chaos under the blanket of "I care about Tibet" then its time to arrest and throw them in the back of a van for disturbing the peace.
You dont care about Tibet, you are love with the notion that you care about Tibet.
Yes China's human rights record is terrible and yes it should be challenged, but not in the way that the idiots did on Sunday.
And as for Sarkozy.. He wants to boycott the ceremony. Oh nice, why not just boycott China in its entirety?
47

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 19:23:59
Media1...those who carried the flame made their own choice, I dare say some of those will be thinking now about that choice...it's kind of obvious why people are protesting at this event...but prior to this there have been many protests in many countries over the years, did you miss that?...this is a political tool for China....except human rights is a spanner in the works...they knew what was coming....

People do boycott Chinese goods...I certainly do, as much as possible...I would never visit China on holiday or participate in any Chinese cultural event representing Imperial China..

As for the cops you have a rather romantic view of them...most of them join up for the career and promotion prospects, not to mention the lucrative salary...there are a lot of good cops but there are a lot of bad cops...who will jail you if you look at them the wrong way..I am an ex cop and could tell you things that would make your gob swing open and sweep away your romantic notion of heros in wooly trousers....people are naive when they join..but soon learn the score when they leave probation and arrive at their final destination....it is tragic that men and women lose their life in the line of duty but please do not let that detract from corrupt police behaviour...ie inciting violence...committing unneccessary acts of violence, threats and intimidation etc..

You have not got a clue pal..you are naive...I have seen them in action cos I was one of them...
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Media 1,

cape town 08/04/2008 19:39:09
Horrible Cankers

So youre a failed cop!

And some of those who carried the flame will be regretting it now, you say. Or maybe they won't, maybe they will be praising themselves for carrying the torch in the name of the olympics, whilst still maintaining a strong sense of disdain for what is happening in Tibet.

So you wont visit China on holiday? I dont imagine they miss you, besides they dont need you the whole world trades with them, including Sarkozy the "Lets pretend I care man"

So in your view, cops are cops for the career and promotion prospects. Hmm, funny that, a human being taking a job for the career and promotion opportunities. I do have a clue, because policemen die in the line of duty all the time, but then youre a failed cop, so no need for you to worry.

Corrupt police behaviour you say! Is that somehow different from corrupt civilians who hijack the human rights charter and use it as an excuse to dispense their own brand of hatred and chaos in order to feel good about themselves?

Yes Horrible, corruption does exist in the police force just as it exists in civilian life, thankfully though, the majority pf police shy away from such behaviour, which leaves people like me respecting the rest who put their lives on the line.

So you wont be going to China anytime soon, watching the SPL, eating a chinese meal, shopping at Tesco, Asda or catching a bus. You wont be using taxi's, eating out of tuppaware dishes, riding a bicycle, using an office printer or any of the other Chinese items our world is flooded with? Good on you, but you would be doing more for the cause you apparently feel strongly about it if you went to the Chinese embassy everyday and raised your concerns with the rest of the people who want to make a statement.
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Media 1,

cape town 08/04/2008 20:00:42
I dont know much about Tibet. I do however, know that China has a shocking human rights record. But then so does Britain, our troops are killing as we speak in an illegal war. But life goes on!
China will change when men like Sarkozy back up their "fickle attempt at care" by boycotting CHINA FULL STOP, as opposed to doing the token " I will boycott the opening ceremony nonsense"
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 20:48:12
Media1 if you define 'failed cop' as someone who took the decision to leave because of corruption within the police force then yes, you are quite correct...rather that than a 'successful cop' who turns a blind eye or participates...I was expected to give people a kicking and refused.. did not go down too well with the boys and girls in blue...police men AND women die in the line of duty as do soldiers, its a fact of life in the forces and every cop/soldier is on the receiving end of violence at some point in their career...but please do not attempt to muddy the waters by using the old emotional blackmail card...."the majority of police shy away from such behaviour"....and just how do you know that Media1?....because they tell you so?...stop pretending you are that naive...only a fool would believe that...as for your comment,

"Which leaves people like me respecting the rest who put their lives on the line".....get a grip of yourself man...they all put their lives on the line...corrupt or uncorrupt...do not forget that....

Yes life goes on...but maybe it will take someone like Sarkozy to listen to his fellow countrymen protesting about China's human rights abuse, before any further action is taken....because that is what has to happen...if people are loud enough their governments just might open their ears and listen...trade embargos...sounds like a good idea to me...plenty more sweatshops all over the world willing to churn the same crap out....

Extinguish the flame.

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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 08/04/2008 21:26:53
Still reminds me of Scottish Labour.
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Retah Esenihc,

Grampian 08/04/2008 22:58:58
I notice little or no comment from the CRC plants
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

08/04/2008 23:20:26
Thats cos they're tucked up in bed wae thir 'Mouthy Dung' teddy sandwiched inbetween them....
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Mashimaro,

China 09/04/2008 07:18:43
No, it's cos we're at work, where we should be, while the troll sits poised over her keyboard awaiting our next pearls of wisdom.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

09/04/2008 09:49:36
Thats some terrible hours they got you working there darling...Crunchy 'nuts' for breakfast?
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Deuchars,

Edinburgh - FH 09/04/2008 12:48:23
Horrible Cankers was a "Quota" cop, never any good at it but you know how why they have quotas in place.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 09/04/2008 14:09:53
Horrible Cankers,
So why is it that as en ex cop, that you claim you are, you support all these violent and idiotic protests following the flame on its relay around the world? You claim you were a good cop, yet you quite openly condone these violent and illegal protests, and I say illegal because people are getting arrested for their illegal behaviour. As a supposed ex cop, you are not only turning a blind eye to these violent protests, but you actually supporting them. If indeed you were a cop, it is quite clear why you are no longer a cop. You obviously had your butt kicked off the force, and rightly so. Your extremely foul mouth within the last few days also suggests why you are no longer a cop. Again, if you were indeed a cop, thank God you no longer have that job. you definitely don't represent any force that 'serves and protects.' You are a poor role model to say the least. It is quite obvious you had a fantasy to be a cop, but failed their tests, therefore your claim of having been a cop is just a figment of your imagination. Nice try anyways.
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Polly Ann,

09/04/2008 14:15:10
70 postmark54

If HC was a cop I bet it was not for long. Maybe she was a crossing guard at lunch time but got fired for scaring the children, her wide load and hideous bull dyke appearance sent them running away in fear.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 09/04/2008 14:33:18
#71 Polly Ann,
Thank you so much for that visual image you have shared with me. It is nearing bed time here in China and I can visualize the nightmares already. You do have that good sense of humour though, something that I have always appreciated.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

09/04/2008 16:32:41
Hello trolls....P45 my love..You worked it out yet?...

68...Clarry I have responded to your comment on another post...shine the light upon yourself sunshine..you are in need..

If you think that I have a 'foul mouth' P45 then you really are wrapped up in cotton wool...the language of Scots cops can be extreme...wake up you fool...who you kidding?...when you have to deal with the worst extremes of humanity it makes you poetic allright..

"Violent and illegal protests"...heh heh heh heh heh....nice...keep 'em coming haufwit...
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

09/04/2008 22:39:04
Clarry, it is the anger in you, perpetual victim crying out 'Injustice'....

Grow up, you are no longer an angry toddler....
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Biker,

Ayr 10/04/2008 20:33:00
clarry Good for you and I hope the holiday was enjoyable, however I branded you a LACKEY not a lakey.
Good for you HC stick with it.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

10/04/2008 20:50:38
Hi Biker...there aint half some real 'zoomers' on this forum that come out with all sorts of keech to justify their mad ideals...no wunner the world is in such a sorry state...extremists at both ends of the spectrum....still I suppose it is the human condition....
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

10/04/2008 20:51:11
All this 'dog breath' is polluting my air....
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

10/04/2008 23:25:33
71/72...PollyMark/PostAnn...well?..you worked it out yet?...TSW says hello....

 

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