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Published Date: 09 January 2008
HILLARY Clinton, facing defeat last night in the New Hampshire primary, vowed to fight on against Barack Obama.
The Obama "wave" continued from Iowa yesterday with record numbers of voters forming long queues in polling stations, some of whom ran short of Democratic ballot papers. Final results were delayed by the decision of the authorities to let many polli
ng stations remain open long into the night to make sure everyone had a chance to vote.

Early exit polls showed Mr Obama had 74 per cent of the independent vote, together with more women voters than Mrs Clinton, with a predicted 13 per cent lead.

John Edwards, the former North Carolina Senator is also expected to stay in the Democrat race, although he is the least-well funded of the favourites.

Independents make up a large share of the primary voters in New Hampshire, and by definition are not loyal to either party – but are allowed to vote for their preferred single candidate.

New Hampshire famously made Bill Clinton the "Comeback Kid" in 1992, giving him a strong second-place finish after his candidacy was nearly derailed by allegations of womanising and efforts to evade the draft. The state has offered no such solace to his wife.

But as the Clinton camp braced itself for a second successive defeat, staff vowed that the fight will go on, as the primary season widens across the United States.

"We are going all the way to the convention," said Howard Wolfson, a Clinton campaign spokesman referring to the Democratic National Convention in August. However, Mrs Clinton is now facing trouble on a new front, as powerful political allies begin to desert her.

The Wall Street Journal reported that in the next state due to hold a primary, Nevada on 19 January, the largest union, representing hotel workers, is considering switching to Mr Obama from Mrs Clinton.

Also considering the switch are some senators who had been keen to back Mrs Clinton in the autumn when her campaign seemed unstoppable. Now they are worried about being associated with a losing candidate.

Racking up the pressure still further, the Democrat hierarchy may call on Mrs Clinton to step down well before the August convention if defeat becomes likely, rather than see a damaging battle that could turn independent voters away from the Democrat party.

Inside the Clinton camp there are reports that key staff may be moved, with campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle expected to be an early casualty.

The beginning of a new, softer, image for Mrs Clinton was already evident on Monday when the formerly brash senator came close to tears in revealing the emotional strain of the campaign.

National polls show that the huge lead Mrs Clinton held over Mr Obama three months ago, 48 per cent to 19 per cent, has vanished. A USA Today/Gallup poll puts them both on 33 per cent, one of the most dramatic changes of fortune in modern American politics.

Two tiny hamlets reported their results within minutes of the midnight opening, both showing big wins for Mr Obama and Republican John McCain.

For the Republicans, an equally dramatic turnaround is the revival of Mr McCain. He is expected to lose New Hampshire to Mitt Romney but his rising national poll ratings of 19 per cent have put him a point behind the former front-runner Rudy Giuliani.

The Republican race is complicated by the Christian Right, accounting for as much as a third of Republican votes. This bloc has already put Mike Huckabee in front after Iowa.



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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 09/01/2008 00:58:33
the information in the article may or may not prove to be accuratet when final results come in. Currently, it is reported with 8% of votes counted Clinton & Obama are very close. and McCain is well ahead of Romney. here's a link if you want to follow the results as they come in.

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5425793&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.11.1

You have to click on the Democrat link or the Republican link to see the results in either of the 2 primaries.

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Alvie,

Idaho, USA 09/01/2008 01:25:35

It is already becoming apparent that Barak Obama is well on his way to becoming the next president of the US. And the prospect really doesn't cause this life-long conservative Republican much heartburn, either. A political phenomenon like him is the only thing in sight which even has a chance to break up the constipated state of American politics as presently constituted. The present attitude of entrenched Washington establishment Republicans and Democrats--Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee-- only denotes 'more of the same,' a situation with which I believe the American electorate is growing ever more disgusted.

That is why Barak's watchword, 'CHANGE', resonates so well and why Hillary's, 'experience,' does not. And the proof of the pudding is that now all the candidates of both parties have had an epiphany, and are all now touting their ability to effect change. Such a shifting of gears is so transparent a political expediency that many Americans credit Barak for his honesty and commitment in a way that many will not do for the other candidates.

On the Republican side, those who have some credibility as potential agents of change within their party and in Washington are McCain and Huckabee. However, if either one gets the party nomination (probably McCain), it is going to be moot because the Republican Party has so much baggage to carry into the next election that the Democratic nominee for president is going to become president almost by default.

And why does that not overly disturb a Repubican like me? Because--although being a Democrat, Obama will no doubt espouse some things I will disagree with--I have seen nothing which does not show him to be a highly intelligent, reasonable, pragmatic person who has not, as of yet, had hardening of the political arteries. He has said that he would work from the White House with a spirit of consultation and co-operation to try to reduce the sometimes ugly partisanship now evident between the two major par
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Alvie,

Idaho, USA 09/01/2008 01:27:03

And why does that not overly disturb a Repubican like me? Because--although being a Democrat, Obama will no doubt espouse some things I will disagree with--I have seen nothing which does not show him to be a highly intelligent, reasonable, pragmatic person who has not, as of yet, had hardening of the political arteries. He has said that he would work from the White House with a spirit of consultation and co-operation to try to reduce the sometimes ugly partisanship now evident between the two major parties. If he really means it, he actually has little choice.

The Republicans may remain the minority party, but not that much of a minority. For anything substantive to get done in Washington, they are still players who have to be brought on board, which will require a modicum of flexibility for everyone concerned. Winston Churchill is quoted as once saying, " a democracy is a system of government where no-one gets exactly what he wants."

I believe the zeitgeist in the US now is that, while no-one gets exactly what they want, more and more people desire something more of their government they are getting at present. And you have to give it to Barak Obama there. For a supposed political rookie, he has done masterfully in sensing the mood of the American people and shaping it in his favor.


P.S. I couldn't care less about the color of Obama's skin. And although not doubt there are some in the US who will count that either against him or in his favor, they are obviously of little consequence any more in American political considerations. Which says a great deal to the good about our always imperfect, but always
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09/01/2008 01:42:23
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R35,

Gurnee 09/01/2008 04:03:39
Do not count on an B. Hussein Obama victory too soon. I think he lost New Hampshire.
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bikewoman,

09/01/2008 04:22:06
6 R35,Gurnee

Let's just pray neither of the incompetant Democrats Hillary or Obama win the Presidency.
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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 09/01/2008 04:33:49
Looks like you wrote this story too early, Chris!!!!

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Ross Fyffe,

09/01/2008 05:15:43
wow a close call ........... :-)
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Jimmy the Pie,

09/01/2008 06:04:34
Looks like the Hootsmoan got it wrong yet again!!!
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PDdod,

peterhead 09/01/2008 06:41:51
A large dollop of egg-on-face methinks
Do you just love it when the arrogance of the media get it so wrong
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Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 09/01/2008 06:44:33
To be fair the Conservative biased media, ( rember I am right of right wing) not only got it wrong it was obvious that they were trying to manipulate the results.

Listening online to the Leprocaun late tonight he was hoping Hills got beat by double digits , wow has he been shown to be an idiot. Sorry the Leprocaun is the nickname for Guillianis mouthpiece (oops he got 1% more than Ron Paul!!!) Sean Hannity.

Sean the Sycophant.
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Beth Boyle,

NY 09/01/2008 07:16:29
Not so fast, it looks like Hillary has won this day. Old and tired she looks but she still has fight in her.
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Southsider once upon a time,

09/01/2008 07:44:14
A case of counting chickens...
All of the media were led down the wrong path but you cannot blame journalists for reporting on the perceived state of play at the time; unless of course they are showing obvious bias.
I think it was the polsters who got it wrong; maybe the media places too much regard to these meddling parasites.
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ddmc,

09/01/2008 08:49:23
Of course the private company LHS who counted the ELECTRONIC votes wouldn't have anything to do with the results, only once before have exit polls been so wrong & that was when Bush was re-elected. The machines used to collect the results could be (& have been in tests) hacked within 10 minutes as has been demonstrated.

All electronic votes should provide a paper trail to back up the machines & ensure no one manipulated the vote.
They can do it for ATM's why not electronic votes (SNP take note !)
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yockel,

09/01/2008 09:25:48
She won didn't she?
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Media 1,

cape town 09/01/2008 09:44:51
Obama has done well, but off-course in the end he will be nowhere...
America needs Clinton or McCain, nothing less will be tolerated by America at large!
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

09/01/2008 10:14:45
"Alvie,Idaho, USA 09/01/2008 01:27:03

P.S. I couldn't care less about the color of Obama's skin."

I find that Obama is a real hypocrite when it comes to the race issue. He seems happy to have the likes of Oprah and Will Smith banging the race drum in black neighbourhoods yet seems to play down his blackness with white voters.

His skin colour would not be an issue if his supporters did not make it an issue.

But that is by the by - my instincts are not to trust Obama - not that I trust Clinton that much either. But I suppose at least with Clinton you know what you are getting and you know how she stands on the major policy issues - even if you disagree with her. Obama is an altogether different matter - there is something of Tony Blair about him - all style and no real substance - a superficial politician whose capaign strategy seems to be based on election because of who he's not and because he is "young" - that last one really gets on my nerves.

It is similar to the strategy that the young fogies Cameron and Osborne have adopted with the Tories here - say little about policy, elect me because I'm not Gordon, vote for me because I am younger (in comparison). The reality is that Obama, Cameron and Osborne have as much in common with young people as I have.

It is symtomatic of the all style and no substance not just of politicians but of anyone who is in the public eye.
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Neil,

Glasgow 09/01/2008 11:10:25
Bit tough being a print journalist these days.
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Gothic Rose,

09/01/2008 11:26:35
Everybody! 5# Wally is LOST.!!!
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 09/01/2008 11:31:00
whoever wrote #5 is an imposter. It is troubling that the name looks like it is spelled exactly the same. How did they do that?

It is typical on this forum that attacks are made against my personality rather than to any substance of what I say.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 09/01/2008 11:50:45
We may know in 4-6 weeks who 1 or both of the 2 nominees will be. Or, it could stretch out to the conventions in July/August. But I think the democrats would be better off with Obama as their nominee. Because Clinton is disliked strongly by so many. and I think that many will want to punish the Republicans over Bush in the November election.

also, remember - the vote results are dramatic and make it seem like a race, but it is also quite possible that vote fraud is being used. The old vote systems were much better than the new ones. It is not that computers can't be used as honest reliable voting systems, but the vote machines have been purposely programmed to be unreliable and to allow for fraud.

The world looks to America's democratic system for electing a new leader to relieve the horrible foreign policies of America, but the system we use is a fraud, and it is foolish to think that anything good will come from it.
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Media 1,

cape town 09/01/2008 11:51:44
The Federalist #18

I think it is difficult for Obama in terms of his race relations. He is not black, nor is he white! He must therefore, honour both of the cultures that make him who he is, and that cannot be easy!

It is not his fault that people like Oprah are banging his drum, lets face it, people like Oprah are desperate for a black President and would probably drop Obama in a second if a completely African American was in the mix, such is their craving for a black man in power...Oprah Whinfrey is a wealthy woman, but even she knows that all she has accumulated is due to the innovation and forward thinking of white America. In otherwords, whilst she is responsible for her own wealth, she could not have achieved it without the infrastructure, economy and opportunity to succeed. Something put in place and made possible by white America..It cannot be easy for black people in America, think about it..They live, fail, succeed, prosper, dont prosper, dream, dont dream and exist in a nation that is wealthy due to the white man. Cars, planes, trains, electricity etc etc etc etc etc were all made possible by the white man. To now have a semi black man on the brink of greatness and the most powerful post in the world is MASSIVE for black communities around the world, and rightly so I think!
Obama does not have it easy because white people want him to be white and black people want him to be black, whereas he probably wishes he could just be himself.
Yes he is under qualified in comparison to Clinton and McCain, and he does not have any real policies in place to make the voters confident that he could lead the nation, but his image and his words might be enough to get him into the oval office! Although personally, I dont see him going the distance, which just a hunch......
It would be foolish to think that race will play no part, off-course it will! Oprah is a famous feminist, and whilst it would be a massively important day in the history of American politics if
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Media 1,

cape town 09/01/2008 11:54:32
In finising my post above..

It would be foolish to think that race will play no part, off-course it will! Oprah is a famous feminist, and whilst it would be a massively important day in the history of American politics if a woman won the presidency, Oprah is more inclined to beat the drum of the coloured man, such is the importance of race!
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thatscottishwoman,

The Kirkyard 09/01/2008 12:16:19
5 Wally,By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA)

LOL
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

09/01/2008 12:16:23
#23 It is the lack of policies that make me suspicious - and I do make clear that is the reason I have a problem with him. That being said one possible outcome is Clinton winning the Democratic nomination and then selecting Obama as her vice-Presidential running mate. That would send a more positive message than if she selects (as I suspect she will) a southern-based white senator/governor.
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Media 1,

cape town 09/01/2008 12:19:06
#26 The Federalist

I understand your trepidation. Obama does not have policies, he appears to be counting on charm and the message of change.
What change though?
No policies results in no votes at the end of the day
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thatscottishwoman,

The Kirkyard 09/01/2008 12:30:50
21 Wally,By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA)

Sounds like you had some regrets after a fews drinks.
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thatscottishwoman,

The Kirkyard 09/01/2008 12:33:37
27 Media 1,cape town

I can understand your racist viewpoint since you hail from Capetown.
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Reading Public 1,

Wisc, USA, Fred for President 09/01/2008 12:56:45
Yes Wally the way they do that is to take your information on this site.
It looks as if Hillary squeaked by. We need to work harder for Obama. I am a moderate conservative Republican. but I will support anyone who might beat the Clinton Machine.
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Reading Public 1,

Wisc, USA, Fred for President 09/01/2008 12:56:58
Yes Wally the way they do that is to take your information on this site.
It looks as if Hillary squeaked by. We need to work harder for Obama. I am a moderate conservative Republican. but I will support anyone who might beat the Clinton Machine.
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Lynne,

USA 09/01/2008 13:21:26
SHE WON!! In spite of the media..She still was ahead in the national polls..but this was a surprise.
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Silence of the Yams,

09/01/2008 13:53:02
The media love Obama, eh? Just like they loved David Cameron over David Davis and a few other instances. Go Hillary!!
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09/01/2008 15:54:51
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Media 1,

cape town 09/01/2008 16:45:11
ThatScottishWoman

Yawn! You are making me tired.
Racist viewpoint! lmao

If I am racist for pointing out that Obama would rather be himself than pander to those who want him to be black or white, then so be it!!!
Its a shame when people such as you play the racist card in order to veil their lack of understanding surrounding international politics.
And for the record, I hail from Edinburgh!
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA ......ex Mexican Territory 09/01/2008 23:52:14
Obama 'wave' sweeps New Hampshire as Clinton sees support ebb
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This headline and all the pollsters were WRONG again.

Just confirms that Pollsters are as worthless as a tit on a boar HOG.

They cannot be believed, yet they are Paid enormous sums of money to get it wrong.

Hillary Clinton will WIN this election for the democratic candidate nomination.

Obama is OK but he strikes me as more "smoke and mirrors" than substance.

In the States IMAGE is everything and deception runs a close second.

Obama looks great IMAGE wise on TV, Hillary does not.

Wally take a trip to the River of The Ganges and bade in the sacred waters with the other Indians.

DON'T PANIC Dude..next ICE age is 100,000 years away.

GC
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10/01/2008 01:04:27
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American,

11/01/2008 03:41:20
#3-alvie-"And why does that not overly disturb a Repubican like me?" - Maybe once the obama loving press actually start questioning him on his views & voting records on important issues, it will overly disturb you.

 

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