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Junta brags of referendum win as people of Burma die



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Published Date: 16 May 2008
BURMA'S junta announced yesterday that its new, pro-military constitution has won overwhelming support in a referendum held while the country was reeling from a devastating cyclone that may have killed up to 128,000 people.
State radio said 92.4 per cent of the 22 million eligible voters approved the constitution and gave voter turn-out as more than 99 per cent. Voting was postponed until 24 May in the Irrawaddy delta and Rangoon areas, both battered by Cyclone Nargis
. But state radio said results there could not mathematically reverse the approval.

Human rights groups have dismissed the vote, which was held on 9 May, as a sham because, in a country ruled by the feared military since 1962, few would have dared reject the constitution. The voting was also marred by widespread complaints of intimidation and rigging.

The junta says the new constitution will lead to a general election in 2010. But it guarantees 25 per cent of parliamentary seats to the military and allows the president to hand over all power to the military in an emergency.

"They (the generals] don't even care about dying people, you think they care about democracy for living people? I don't care about the referendum. It doesn't mean anything," said a food store owner in Rangoon, whose name The Scotsman is withholding.

Burma's government says 38,491 people are known to be dead and 27,838 missing after the 2-3 May cyclone. But the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies estimated the death toll at between 68,833 and 127,990 people.

But a spokesman stressed the figures were only estimates, to give Red Cross donors and partner organisations an idea of the numbers being discussed within the aid community. The United Nations says more than 100,000 may have died.

The UN and the Red Cross say between 1.6 and 2.5 million people are in urgent need of food, water and shelter. Only 270,000 have been reached by the aid groups.

The Hawaii-based Centre for Excellence in Disaster Management and Humanitarian Assistance said seven UN agencies, more than 60 non-governmental organisations and about 45 nations or regional blocs are directly or indirectly involved in the aid operation.

But the junta has issued only a few visas to their staff, and the few allowed into the country have been forbidden to leave Rangoon. Police have turned back foreigners from checkpoints at city exits.

"There is a visible fence around Rangoon that we don't dare cross," said Tim Costelloe, of the aid group World Vision.

He said the group has delivered aid to 100,000 people in spite of the "narrow parameters". But there were tens of thousands more who had not received help because of heavy rain and lack of helicopters and expert staff.

The regime insists it can handle the disaster on its own – a stance that appears to stem not from its abilities but its deep suspicion of most foreigners, who have frequently criticised its human rights abuses and crackdown on democracy activists.

In a clear sign that politics is playing a role, the junta granted access to 160 relief staff from India, China, Bangladesh and Thailand, which have rarely criticised Burma's rulers.

With professional aid workers in short supply, ordinary citizens – including businessmen, housewives, monks, Christian priests and students – have rushed in to provide help.

But even Burmese citizens are being restricted by the security forces, said a medical student who visited hard-hit Bogaley town on Wednesday. "They (the military] don't want us to stay and talk to people. They want us to leave the supplies with them for distribution," she said.

"But how can I treat them if I can't talk to them? How do we administer medical care if we can't touch them, feel their pulse or give them advice?"





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  • Last Updated: 15 May 2008 9:41 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/05/2008 05:34:36
The deaths of hundreds of thousands of people is another great victory for Socialists, Communists and other self-infatuated, navel-gazing 'anti-interventionists' everywhere that have been justifying the Junta's fear of a US/UK military presence to deny aid in these discussions.

They are happy to condemn hundreds of thousands of people to their deaths as long as they can rationalize a reason why the US and UK can get a black eye out if it.

And this is even BEFORE the diseases have started...

Just how sick is the Left, really??
2

Subodai,

China 16/05/2008 07:24:08
How sick you to make this right and left.
3

Biker,

Ayr 16/05/2008 10:16:47
Subodai. Actually Diathi has a point. It seems that our politicians are happy to sit back and let this fiasco roll on, rather like Zimbabwe. The only difference I would make is that it is a global problem and not just one of the left. Political innaction = political expediency, and it is assuredly wrong.
Good points though Diathi
4

Griffe,

16/05/2008 10:18:15
Are the generals relatives of Mugabe or were they 'educated' at the same school? All these lunatics want is absolute power, whether their people survive seems to be of no consequence.
5

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 16/05/2008 10:48:58
#4

They are just following the political model that their Chinese Communist friends have given them.

6

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

16/05/2008 11:43:55
3...Biker, the troll has gone Raj with your moniker on the earthquake story....he has also trolled Finnking...this person despises the people who have gone on to form 'The Freehootsman'...which they did to escape him...he consistantly trolls their ID's on this forum....a very bitter individual indeed....I have contacted them a couple of times to confirm that it is the troll who has been leaving insults here and not the real McCoy....if in doubt...check them out....it is a genuine site...an alternative to the trolling waste ground that the Scotsman has become. There are some changes being made on Monday to the Scotsman and I hope that will make it more difficult for the troll to continue its harrassment.
7

Subodai,

China 16/05/2008 12:25:04
#3 Tyrants rise, tyrants fall always. It is not your business. People must find solution. This country not UK colony. Now Myanmar leader have. Not for UK to paw into Myanmar. Already much trouble from UK and US. UK, US very quick to hold gun kill people. Always make better UK US robber. Now you go, stop pawing Asia, Africa.
8

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 16/05/2008 13:57:40
#7 Scooby Doo

"It is not your business."

Same thing your regime was saying after they slaughtered all their own people in Tianamen Square.

I guess Chinas policy is that as long they are your citizens then feel free to slaughter them any way you like.
9

Subodai,

China 16/05/2008 14:40:05
Government no slaughter all on Tiananmen, just some. Same thing, CIA make paw, Chinese problem no.
10

Biker,

16/05/2008 15:16:45
Kampung Highlander. It seems that we have a re-invention of the political mouthpieces. Even the odd spelling and grammar fool no-one.
Subutio. It is everybodies problem just like Tiananmen Square was. To ignore it would be tantamount to involvement.
11

Biker,

Ayr 16/05/2008 15:18:30
thanks Cankers I have been aware of this idiot for some time now . I suspect Deuchars or indeed Postcrap but time will tell. When I do find out.... there will be big trouble!!!!
12

Stefan,

NYC 16/05/2008 15:23:47
#8. Subodai, like his friend Mushi, cares nothing for fellow humans, unless they're chinese. It is not capable of understanding the concern for fellow man. Look at the comment in #9, "Government no slaughter all on Tiananmen, just some." No big deal you see. They only slaughtered some defenseless students. They're really very nice for not slaughtering them all.

Zimbob'sway, Sudan, Myanmar. All great friends of China. For all to complaining about the mess the US and UK have made of the world, (some well earned) I don't think China has learned a thing. They're just bootlegging bad foreign policy the same way they do technology, music, manufacturing processes. There's nothing good or original about how China conducts itself on the world stage. Just an abused child that's growing up to be a bigger abuser.
13

Anglofile,

16/05/2008 15:24:09
Junta, Junta, shove it up your jumper.

All military leaders do not give a flying fcuk about their people. They are merely power mad meglomaniacs, and the sooner they are all shot, the better.
14

Caratacus,

West Britain 16/05/2008 16:06:56
What a bunch of juntas!
15

SouthernGent,

17/05/2008 00:40:05
#4 - "whether their people survive seems to be of no consequence."

And there in lies the problem, for the Junta IS taking care of THEIR people. Unfortunately, most of the population isn't allowed into the club.
16

57Nomad,

california 17/05/2008 01:02:17
"Tyrants ride to and fro upon the backs of tigers they dare not dismount." W. S. Churchill.

Pol Pot got his. These guys are going to get theirs.
17

Subodai,

China 17/05/2008 06:05:13
#10 Subutio. It is everybodies problem just like Tiananmen Square was. To ignore it would be tantamount to involvement.

Name is Subodai, not hard to write.
You think west to paw, okay? Each time west see "problem" many people die. Please do not see problem Asia we no want so many people die, like Iraq. Yes, ignore. You make mistake all the time...you make worse trouble all the time. Maybe you stay your country no "involvement" make trouble go quick.
18

Subodai,

China 17/05/2008 06:12:32
#12 Concern for fellow man - like western concern for Cambodia? Like western concern for Vietnam? Like western concern for Kosovo? Like western concern for Cuba?
You know make funny about western? "Westerners love Asians - to death."

"They only slaughtered some defenseless students. They're really very nice for not slaughtering them all."

China kill few student. Student attack army. Student have many day many talk to leave Tiananmen but no. Why? CIA make student stay to die. No western concern = no students dies.

19

Kenny A,

17/05/2008 07:55:15
18

Subodi

You take name of great Mongol General, what tactics will work with Junta?
20

Subodai,

China 17/05/2008 09:13:10
#19 Kenny...you are right, honor to you.
What to do on junta is to ask what you want. If I am Subodai of the Uriankhai it would be for conquer. That would leave very Myanmese dead.
"You cannot beat a nation until its men are on their backs and the hearts of its women on the ground."
Conquer works for small time only. Then more war, more conquer, more death, more impovrished.
"Make soft" is for always.
Wise Chinese learn this, use on Mongols to break.
Wise Chinese know this, use on Africa to break.
21

Kenny A,

17/05/2008 09:32:09
20

Subodi

Very true, so why have wise Chineese not done this with Burma, and fairly much the opposit with Tibet. Answer, politics my friend and money of course. Not many people care about the people who suffer.

Thats all for now take care and enjoy the rest of the day.
22

Subodai,

China 17/05/2008 10:39:01
#21 China no interest in Myamar but trade. Beijing policy always is just trade.
Tibet is China province. You see CIA friend make trouble to pull Tibet from China.

Now, that is all.
23

Biker,

Ayr 17/05/2008 12:02:45
Subutio. This is not the west pawing as you state. Tiananmen was a disaster before the west got any say in the proceedings. As for the comment about no interest in Myamar, oh yes you do my friend, just like your interest in Zimbabwe it is covert but still visible.
24

Subodai,

17/05/2008 14:12:18
#23 Yes, interest in trade, Myanmar, Zimbabwe.
Maybe you need read tiananmen papers see truth
25

Biker,

Ayr 17/05/2008 15:12:28
Subutio. Tell me what I should read about Tiananmin and I'll gladly have a look. The Killing and maiming of hunderds of your own people is inexcusable, no matter what the provocation.
26

SouthernGent,

17/05/2008 17:54:45
I am amazed at the numerous references to the "CIA". People need to realize that every country on this planet has their own version of the CIA. It is nothing more than the "game within the game". Those that don't believe their county is involved in the underground game are only fooling themselves.
27

Subodai,

China 17/05/2008 18:00:47
#25 How about how CIA papers?
28

Biker,

Ayr 17/05/2008 22:04:17
Oh come on you can do better than that!!!!
29

Gary.,

Australia 18/05/2008 02:48:59
#26 SouthernGent

Very well put, not necessary governments in every countries but also established organisations worldwide, be it recognised by the government or not.
30

Subodai,

China 18/05/2008 03:47:32
#26 Yes China very big problem have with ASIO make Chinese people to buy big roo-skin hats. Big war, many people die.
Also big problem have with MUST make poor China peasants force to buy many many Abba CD.
Chisi
31

Subodai,

18/05/2008 04:35:37
#28
32

Subodai,

China 18/05/2008 04:42:41
#28

"On May 6, 1989, and American government agency wired the following rather self-congratulatory statement to the US embassy in Beijing:

Given what we now see in china, it seems the professors we have sent to China have played a crucial role in transmitting American civilization, introducing American culture, and promoting democracy in China."

tiananmen papers pg 339



33

Biker,

Ayr 18/05/2008 11:21:56
Subutio. Where is the web page?
34

Subodai,

China 18/05/2008 12:51:34
#33 It is the book
35

Biker,

Ayr 18/05/2008 20:48:38
Which Book?
36

Subodai,

China 19/05/2008 09:22:09
#35 Tianamen papers. If you go CIABASE you see CIA papers

 

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