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Published Date: 26 September 2008
ORDINARY Americans knew it was serious. Gone was the trademark smirk and the optimism that George Bush has carried through the crises of 9/11, the Iraq invasion and Hurricane Katrina, as he laid out just how real the threat of catastrophe now is.
"We have seen triple-digit swings in the stock market. Major financial institutions have teetered on the edge of collapse, and some have failed," he told his citizens. "The entire economy is in danger. Without immediate action by Congress, America ca
n slip into a major panic."

The last time Americans heard such words, they came from an embattled president, Herbert Hoover, in the run-up to the 1932 election, the midst of the Great Depression.

"I desire to speak so simply and so plainly that every man and woman in the United States who may hear or read my words cannot misunderstand," said Mr Hoover. He told them that the preceding three years had been "a time of unparalleled economic calamity".

Mr Hoover, like Mr Bush, was pushing a cash injection for banks but stopped short of root-and-branch reform. His plan, and the election, was swept away by Democrat Franklin D Roosevelt and his promise of a New Deal.

As Mr Bush's speech finished, the airwaves and blogospheres exploded in a frenzy of criticism, with most blaming the president for being too close to the bankers.

"With this $700 billion we can actually give a rebate to all the home-owners," complained Don Mejia, of San Antonio, Texas. "Instead of benefiting the big-money banks, benefit us. That's fair."

Others said Mr Bush created the mess by changing the laws to benefit banks at the cost of ordinary people.

"Change the bankruptcy laws back to the same they were before the Bush bankruptcy overhaul," said George Craig, of Atlanta, Georgia. "The week after they were changed, I received about 50 invitations to get credit cards."

Rather than unite Americans, the Bush speech has further divided them, with the White House and Congress now engaged in a gigantic game of chicken as the markets quiver.

The Democrat-controlled Congress is furious that the bail-out plan demands they surrender the right to oversee how it is implemented, and also exempts the Bush administration from court action as a result of its decisions.

Commentators say that one side or the other must give ground at frantic talks likely to stretch over the weekend or, come Monday, the stock market will crash.

Bush already has the worst ratings of any president since Richard Nixon, but some support remains. "In future years, Bush will go down as a great leader, I'm sure," said New Yorker Mimi Rosen, in the city's Union Square. "He has had to make difficult decisions."

That much is undisputed.



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Scullion,

Canada 26/09/2008 01:52:33
And look who's waiting in the wings as possible caretakers of this calamity-McCain and Palin, whose knowledge of economics wouldn't fill a bee's rectum.
2

SouthernGent,

26/09/2008 02:05:37
Thats why they have a cabinet. As if to say Obama/Biden know all - Pleaseeeeee.
3

Scullion,

Canada 26/09/2008 02:35:22
So you admit that this last place Annapolis grad (who needed some strings pulled to get him in)and his equally vacuous running mate would be mere figureheads and their unelected cabinet would run the show? Well, admitting it is a start to getting over it.
Obama at least has a spark of intelligence in his eyes.
4

Boy Wonder,

26/09/2008 03:39:59
Depressiom Mark II ... here they come!!!
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SouthernGent,

26/09/2008 04:03:50
#3
Don't spin it to fit your views. I admit that all FOUR are mere figureheads (as are all heads of state with the exception of dictators). You can't possibly think they don't get advice from others can you? There are a lot of bright people in the world, but unfortunately most are not in politics. We have a saying here in the US - "If you can't get a job, you can always work for the government".
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ARP,

Scotland 26/09/2008 10:52:36
Yes, he looked quite serious when he warned us all about WMD too.
.... something about crying 'wolf' too often, perhaps?
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tomislav,

Home 26/09/2008 11:22:40
And the price of gummy bears has gone through the roof
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Guga II,

Rockall 26/09/2008 11:49:55
The President's Speech

My fellow Americans,

I speak to you tonight at a moment of crisis. After seven years of fantasy, magical thinking and self-delusion,, I must actually admit that there is such a thing as reality.

My whole career in business, the military and government was based on the idea that if you believe something, it's true. For children of privilege like me, that's always been the case. I could talk my way
out of any drunk-driving stop, any shareholder lawsuit, and any military obligation by flashing my Dad's last name and smiling. That's how rich kids like me live our lives. Someone else picks up the cheque. Someone else goes off to war. We can spend our days without any accountability at all. But all of us hit a wall somewhere. I'm here tonight to tell you, you hit yours.

In my lifetime we have gone from the biggest energy producer in history to the biggest energy wh*re on the planet. We ship our treasure and your sons off to fight someone else's wars. We owe trillions of dollars to our enemies. We permit terrorists to escape.

My job in all this was to lead you to believe that despite all these weaknesses, you should ignore the obvious, and that your response to debt and fear and doubt is simple: keep shopping. Keep spending, keep
racking up debt, and keep mortgaging your futures. I did very well at this. I pretended to be a Texan cowpoke with a "ranch" while I was in fact an east coast preppie from Connecticut. All I needed to do was
swagger and drop my "g's" and I could sell you snow in January. You ate it up.

Continued.
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Guga II,

Rockall 26/09/2008 11:50:22
Continued.

I'm here for one last opportunity to p*ss down your leg and tell you it's raining. My Wall Street friends need $700,000,000,000,000--that's seven hundred billion--your dollars because they've thrown a party for all this time and now the bill is due. And I'm here to explain to you how this isn't socialism, how this isn't a takeover, and how this makes you stronger and richer. My leadership has turned the United States into a crippled giant, and I'm here to explain how this is really good for you. And I'm here to convince you that although I was president for eight years with a compliant majority for six and a powerful minority for two, that this is all the other side's fault.

I know one thing about some Americans--their idea of patriotism is obedience. I eat those idiots for breakfast, and I need more of them. So one last time, I'm here to be aw-shuckin' and charmin' and country-boyin' you into handing your financial futures over to me and my Harvard Business School buddies, because we're not elite rich kids, we're just like you, except we're above the law.

Thank you

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/09/2008 16:04:38
Pride goes before a fall and a haughty nature before destruction.

BabyBush and his Cabinet will go down in the annals of incompetence and arrogance and may drag the whole world into a depression by their self-serving stupidity and dogged dumbness.
13

ennerdale27,

saLE CHESHIRE 26/09/2008 16:42:09
George W's immolation scene eh?
" The destruction of the Gods is at hand!
Cast now the flame at Wall Sreet's glorious halls"

Amarican corporate greed has brought us all to this.
14

Madbagpypr,

STEORNABHAGH,LEODHAS,NA h-EILEAN SIAR 26/09/2008 19:58:53
Guga, that was brilliant! Well done, that man.

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57Nomad,

california 26/09/2008 20:45:43
#13

Pride goeth before destruction, a haughty spirit cometh before a fall.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/09/2008 20:52:10
16 57Nomad

I got the quote wrong, I admit, and should have looked it up before committing it to the web.

Thanks for the correction but the actual quote and my mangling of it both say essentially the same thing, don't they?
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57Nomad,

california 26/09/2008 20:56:39
#11 barge

barge said:

"America should have paid heed to Adam Smith who realised that regulation in regard to maters fiscal is necessary to financial stability"

To bad, had Smith arrived on the scene two or three decades earlier, he may have advised Scotland against wild-eyed speculation in Central American swamps and mosquito bogs.
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57Nomad,

california 26/09/2008 21:28:42
#17 Barge

I wasn't trying to correct you, you are correct, the intent of your post was clear, and the word order amounts to a distraction. I should have finished up with this advice. This is a great thing for a bar room bet because EVERYBODY says "pride cometh before a fall."

I had to leave my desk and hit the Post button because I'm a cr*p typer. But I wasn't nitpicking your post. And I agree with most of the posters here except for this observation. There is no such thing as "American Corporate Greed" or overweening American Pride.

Those words came into existence long before there was an America. American pride and greed is exactly the same as everyone else's pride and greed. Braying about someone else's pride and greed is just another chance for the hive people to do some more of their boring sloganeering.

Many that post on this forum think that their opinions of Americans are a reflection reality. But it is rarely true. Americans are humble and sturdy people. You don't need to get upset and neither does anyone else. We'll get it straighted out. If we don't it's because we believe that the cure would be worse than the disease and we will let this current issue run it's course, we will then pick up the pieces of whats left, ask ourselves, 'what have we learned," and get back to work.

We don't much care whether or not life is all comfy. We wish only to live free and and to enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We aren't afraid at all. We'll plant potatoes and corn in our back yards and ride skateboards to work. We'd rather things work themselves out, but if they don't, they don't. We have always believed that in the end, it is Divine Providence that is the source of all good. God sends us what he thinks we need. If he thinks that an economic slap in the face is what we need, we'll take it like men. One thing we won't do is whine and complain. It's our mess, we'll clean it up.




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57Nomad,

27/09/2008 05:11:14
#11 barge

barge said:

"American fiscal irresponsibilty is to blame for the financial crisis, America should therefore shoulder the main responsibility to rectify this mess"

European meddling in the area and Europe's hosting the wholesale slaughter (google Zyklon B) the European Jews and directly to the creation of the State of Israel. This problem was entirely created by Europeans, so Europe should shoulder the main responsibility for cleaning it up. That way you can commit your entire grand European Union and handle the Muslims anyway you want.

We have been fighting in the mid-east for 6 years. During that time our forces were being shot at with bullets by lunatic jihadis from the front and having knives slipped in our backs by are 'friends.'
Where have the European countries stepped forward to to bear the burden of fixing what they have screwed up?

If there was one single word that encapsulate the present state of affairs in the mid-east that word would be, Germany. It was the Germans who caused this in the first place. Why are the Germans never excoriated for perpetrating the abomanation? You want people to shoulder responsibility? I think thats a good idea. Make sure you get your guys together because it may come to pass that our soldiers might all leave at once and it that case, Europe is screwed. You'll have to pony up the 130,000 troops and equipment and open your wallet real wide. In this case you will have to do it whether you want to or not. If we leave precipitously chaos will return and you will see a nightmare.

Once the most brutal group has seized power they will turn their eyes to the west again, and this time they will believe that they have got us on the run and they will waste little time in attacking you and your interests around the world.

They are coming for Europe, not the US. I think anyone mooting the notion of a high profile attack of the US at their regular terrorist meeting will quickly have his ideas
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57Nomad,

california 28/09/2008 15:51:09
#21 barge

barge said:

"There are three Jewish inspired theologies that I am not gullible enough to subscribe to:
1: Christianity or any worship of the same intolerant Asian God under his other names, Allah and Jehova!
2: Communism
3: The theology of the Holocaust!"


You don't believe in those things? Who cares? As for your religious beliefs, all I can say is life is short and full of pain. Long before the end of this century every single person on this forum will be dead. When your time comes you'll find out if you were right or wrong. I wish you the best in that regard.

But the way you are responding here is a little strange. You are the one that said that those responsible for a mess should clean it up themselves. Your points don't even address this. Are you trying to blame the creation of state of Israel on anyone else but yourselves? You can try but the history is on film. Everyone that wants to see it can simply by looking it up on the 'Net.

You are pointing the finger of blame at the victims, how very enlightened of you. The fact is after WWII was over the majority sentiment in Europe that a causative factor in prompting the war was the presence in Europe of millions of Jews. How best to rid themselves of this problem? Simple, give them a state.

This was done by the United Nations, the nation of Israel certainly had nothing to do with it because it didn't exist. This problem in the mid-east was created in Europe and there is no denying it. At the beginning of WWI the British sent a talented if kinda strange young man named T.E. Lawrence to the mid-east to organize the Arabs so that they could rebel against and drive out the Ottoman Turks.

He told them that in return for their help the would be granted independence, something they longed for after the lengthy hegemony of the Turks. And so, they did what they were asked, the Turks left, but, oddly enough the British didn't. This is the beginning of Arab distrust of the west.
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57Nomad,

28/09/2008 15:53:19
#22 contd.


And so, they did what they were asked, the Turks left, but, oddly enough the British didn't. This is the beginning of Arab distrust of the west. The US had nothing to do with it.

So, I agree, who ever makes the mess should clean it up. Consequently, those who most certainly and undeniably are responsible for the problem, a problem created in Europe by Europeans and it is the Europeans that should clean it up. We would all like to bring our troops home from all their foreign bases and we will at those times when it is prudent to do so. What we are waiting for is this. Either Europe follows your suggestion and cleans up what it messed up and replaces our forces with European forces or we could just leave tomorrow and allow you the choice of fighting in Iraq or fighting in Europe. One thing is for sure, there is no diplomatic way out of this problem. You have two choices, fight them where they are or fight them on the streets of Great Britain. Wait, there is a third way to respond, you could just surrender now and see what kind of terms you get from the jihadis besides the option of conversion or decapitation.
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57Nomad,

28/09/2008 16:07:38

Before 9/11 Madeleine Albright stated on a TV intervie that the deaths of a quater million Iraqi babies resulting from American sanctions was "Worth it"

Look, sport, it was the UN that imposed sanctions on Iraq. So, if any babies died from sanctions, get a hold of that Moon guy and give him an earful.

Here is a list of some of the UN resolutions all of which were aimed at Iraq by the United Nations. Take a look and then think twice before spouting off about "US sanctions."

"U.N. Security Council Resolution 660
U.N. Security Council Resolution 661
U.N. Security Council Resolution 662
U.N. Security Council Resolution 664
U.N. Security Council Resolution 665
U.N. Security Council Resolution 666
U.N. Security Council Resolution 667
U.N. Security Council Resolution 669
U.N. Security Council Resolution 670
U.N. Security Council Resolution 674
U.N. Security Council Resolution 678
U.N. Security Council Resolution 686
U.N. Security Council Resolution 687
U.N. Security Council Resolution 688
U.N. Security Council Resolution 707
U.N. Security Council Resolution 715
U.N. Security Council Resolution 949
U.N. Security Council Resolution 986
U.N. Security Council Resolution 1051 U.N. Security Council Resolution 144
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57Nomad,

california 28/09/2008 23:48:20
#25 barge

barge said:

"Those resolutions were all sponsored, introduced, facilitated and implemented by America!"

Look, if you are going to make things up at least be creative enough to make something up that isn't so easy to disprove. The driving force behind the resolutions was Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. Did you forget about that? As far as "sponsored.... blahblahblah by America," you are lying through your teeth. Please cite your sources for these outrageous claims.

 

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