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Published Date: 27 August 2008
NORTH Korea says it will stop disabling its nuclear facilities and consider restoring the Yongbyon reactor that can make material for atomic bombs, accusing the United States of violating a disarmament deal.
"We have decided to immediately suspend disabling our nuclear facilities," the North's KCNA news agency quoted a foreign ministry official as saying yesterday.

The US called the move a step backward and reiterated that North Korea must disable its
facilities before the country can be removed from a terrorism blacklist that restricts investment.

"It is a violation of their commitments," said Robert Wood, a state department spokesman.

Analysts said that given North Korea's deep reluctance to give up its nuclear weapons programme – the one powerful negotiating card it has with the outside world – its latest move was no big surprise.

"North Korea is trying to muddle through and delay as much as possible," said Lee Dong-bok, of the CSIS think tank in Seoul. "At the same time, this is a last-ditch effort trying to somehow influence US presidential politics."

Shen Dingli, a security expert at Fudan University in Shanghai, said he did not believe North Korea ever intended to abandon its nuclear weapons capability and noted that the country had continued its nuclear programme through the talks.

"Their goal remains developing and keeping nuclear weapons," he said.

Disablement work that started in 2007 at Yongbyon has mostly been completed. It was aimed at making it impossible for operations to resume for at least a year.

In June, North Korea toppled the cooling tower at its plutonium-producing reactor to show its commitment to the nuclear deal.

The last remaining stage of the planned disabling of Yongbyon was to be the unloading of irradiated rods.





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  • Last Updated: 26 August 2008 9:31 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Michaela,

Canada 27/08/2008 00:40:41
Deja vu, eh?
2

Ivona Vujica,

27/08/2008 00:50:22
Abolition of Fossil fuels, Nuclear power and Weapons
posted by Ivona Vujica

THE END OF THE DINOSAUR CIVILIZATION (FOSSIL FUELS, NUCLEAR) AND THE EMERGING CONFLATION OF GLOBAL WARMING, GLOBAL CIVIL WAR, WORLD ECONOMIC DEPRESSION AND THE EXTINCTION OF THE HUMAN SPECIES…

According to an old story, a lord of ancient China once asked his physician, a member of a family of healers, which of them was the most skilled in the art. The physician, whose reputation was such that his name became synonymous with medical science in China, replied,My eldest sister sees the spirit of sickness and removes it before it takes shape, so her name does not get out of the house. My elder brother cures sickness when it is still extremely minute, so his name does not get out of the neighborhood. As for me, I puncture veins, prescribe medicines, and massage skin, so from time to time my name gets out and is heard among the lords.

(Dr. Thomas Cleary's introduction to Sun Tzu's Art of War translation note: Sun Tzu was writing at a time when Chinese civilization was embroiled in civil wars.)

War, Global Warming, financial calamity, starvation and suffering has become pornographic fodder world-wide.The best and brightest participate and profit by it regardless of their being on the right, left or the middle.

Chaos and Disorder are imbued and dispersed in our Knowledge-, Economic-, Climate-, even Wisdom networks of knowing. Politicians run amuck and Corporations have their blinders on to everything except what legally they are obligated to do that is to make profit above all else.(see The Corporation documentary - What is a corporation? http://www.youtube.com/watch... )

Too late is it now for long-term planning in the phase-out of King Coal and other Fossil Fuels and Nuclear Power and Weapons.

All Tribes, Nations, Communities and Peoples must call and ACT for the Full Abolition of King Coal, Fossil Fuels, Nuclear Power and Weapons immediately.

Abolition of King Coal, Fo
3

Ivona Vujica,

27/08/2008 00:52:20
google abolition king coal or burning dinosaur
4

2dogs in D.C.,

27/08/2008 02:44:37
#1-Michaela-Don't you mean "Deja vu all over again"? Yeah, we've been here before.Ivona,#2&3,Please, calm down.Talk to us without the cut and paste,and maybe you'll win converts.
5

Postmark-55,

China, 27/08/2008 03:09:44
Hey 2dogs,
Could you please change what you write for location or leave it out all together? Last time I responded to you about you saying that Russia is looking for ports you told me to ignore your location, thanks 2dogs.

#2 Ivona Vujica,
Please heed 2dogs, he's 100 percent correct with his advice to you.

As far as North Korea goes, I had mentioned back in June that they were pulling the wool over the eyes of the US, something they have done time and again, and will continue to do for as long as they can get away with it.
If they finally do disable this reactor, it will be only after they have built another one, for they will never abandon their nuclear weapons quest, never.
And in all honesty, they have every right to do so, anything less would be hypocritical for the ones asking them to abandon their nuclear weapons quest.

When all other countries disarm, then and only then do they have the right to condemn North Korea.
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57Nomad,

california 27/08/2008 06:05:38
#5 pm

pm said:

"When all other countries disarm, then and only then do they have the right to condemn North Korea."

Why is that? Isn't that something like saying we should have all disarmed before condemning the Nazis for rearming? We don't want to North Koreans to have nukes because we fear they will use them to blow up one of our cities. Does this seem unreasonable? This isn't a question of fairsies, 'what we get to do they get to do'. There is a word for people who buy into that uninsightful point of view. That word is "suckers." Or many times they are referred to is "dead suckers." This finds few sane takers.
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57Nomad,

california 27/08/2008 06:18:20
#2 Ivona

Ivona said:

"Abolition of King Coal, Fossil Fuels, Nuclear Power and Weapons immediately."

Good for you Ivona. Let's eliminate hydrocarbons (coal, petroleum, natural gas), and nuclear power (by the all power is nuclear power, figure that out and tell the class) then what are you going to use to power the computer you are sending these posts out on? Smoke signals, jungle drums, pony express? You seem to be advocating the abandonment of civilization altogether.

Do you have any idea how much technology it takes to make a single hypodermic needle. These, in case you didn't know, are the things that are used to spare the lives of tens of millions of children every year by inoculating them against disease or to administer antibiotics to people who are ill from bacterial infections. Oh, year, how are you planning on getting to the doctor?

Also you are asking for massive deforestation when the only source of energy if firewood. You gotta think these things through a little.
8

Postmark-55,

China, 27/08/2008 06:25:19
#6 57Nomad,
And we have a word or words for you, you're a bunch of arrogant Americans who don't know when enough is enough or know when to learn.
If you guys are stupid enough to keep falling for North Korea's obvious little games, then you fully deserve the consequences.
How long have they been playing this game 57Nomad, and how many times are you going to fall for it?
It wouldn't surprise me one bit that they already have a large arsenal of nuclear weapons, but keep you guys busy by arguing about this one particular reactor. It's called diversion, and North Korea happens to be pretty good at it.
The problem with your lot is that you think that you are better and above everybody else, so many sneak through the back door when you stand there pounding your chests claiming to be king of the hill.
Take a look back at 9-11, a horrid act of terror, but ingenious and able to succeed because you thought you were invincible.
It happened and will happen again, and North Korea is just keeping your lot occupied so that somebody else can sneak through the back door yet again. Tick, tick, tick.
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Jim A,

27/08/2008 07:01:13
Well it would be nice if we could get rid of all nuclear weapons but it's not going to happen anytime soon me thinks so lets not get our knickers in a twist over it. Ok Korea with Nukes, first lets look at who runs Korea. The Dear Leader Kim Jong-il, here's a guy who's telling everyone he was born on "Baekdu Mountain" (or as our Chinese friends call it ("Changbai Mountain") (good one or what Postmark ;-). Now then as well as telling folks he was born on this moutain he's also saying his birth was foretold by a swallow. On top of that he's also saying his birth was heralded by the appearance of a double rainbow over the mountain and a new star in the heavens. Now if a bird did put in an appearance when he was born it wasn't no swallow, more like a bloody cuckoo cause that's what this guy is, CUCKOO. The lying sod was born in the Soviet Union while his old man was commanding the 1st Battalion of the Soviet 88th Brigade, made up of Chinese and Korean exiles. Seriously though this guy has some serious in the head issues. Nobody in their right mind would want this fella to have control of Nukes and I'm sure even the Chinese have their doubts about the state of this guys mental health.
10

Postmark-55,

China, 27/08/2008 07:18:32
#9 Jim A,
Hey Jim, good to see your name here again.
Nobody is disputing what you're saying about North Korea's leader, but he's no fool. He might be nuttier than a fruitcake, but he knows how to play the Americans, and that was my point.
He's been stringing these guys along for so long now, that I would be rather embarrassed if I found myself to be an American citizen.
No, he shouldn't have any nukes, but neither should anyone else. The nuclear race was started long before North Korea got involved, and the Americans are the only ones to have tested them on people, and they did it twice in three days. So my point is, who the hell are the Americans to say who can and who cannot have nuclear weapons? In case you haven't noticed Jim, Bush isn't exactly at the top of the class either, he's been dropped on his head more than once.
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Jim A,

27/08/2008 07:34:21
#10 Postmark, how you doing? Ok I see what your saying ref America, thing is postmark although Junior may have been dropped on his head a few times at least the Yanks have checks and balances to stop any President who goes nuts from using Nuclear weapons, this fell in Korea has nobody to stop him unless someone in their military grows a pair and does him in. Your also correct in saying he's stringing the Yanks along, hell I said that a while back and I ain't no political animal. He's going to want more aid and money same as last time and he'll make all the usual promises to get it then the whole cycle will start again. Best thing to do is say no more aid and if you don't stop your BS there's gonna be consequences. Geez people are starving to death in his country and this lunatic to date has spent 20,000,000 dollars of his countries money on fast cars. High time the Koreans got rid of this guy before he totally destroys the country.
12

Postmark-55,

China, 27/08/2008 08:01:15
#11 Jim A,
I'm fine thanks and thanks for asking.
I am not so sure about this check and balance system to be so safe and secure though Jim, and I'm kinda sure that more than a handful of Japanese would tend to agree with me. I know that it happened some 63 years ago, but you know what they say about history, it has a habit of repeating itself.
I have yet to figure out why indeed we teach history at our schools, for every generation seems to overlook the horrors that wars brings and we just have one war after another and nobody ever learns.
By cutting off aid to this guy is a joke to him anyways, I'm sure he's got his pockets lined over and again, and eventhough I'm 100 percent dead set at killing anyone other than self defence, yes you're right, somebody needs to grow some balls and finish this guy off, but I can't see it happening, well not in the near future anyways.
North Korea is so isolated from the rest of the world that we're left to guess what's actually happening within its borders and they will keep it that way.
What we all need to do is stay at home and clean up our own problems, that way we are all too busy to screw with somebody else.
Simple theory, but likely not feasible.
13

Jim A,

27/08/2008 08:13:41
#12 Postmark-55, Ican't see mankind ever learning how futile war is until it's too late and there's nothing or anyone left. I used to just love the poster back in the 70's or was it the 80's, "Imagine They Gave A War And Nobody Showed Up For It" Geez wouldn't that be nice, then what would the Politicians do?
14

Postmark-55,

China, 27/08/2008 08:24:30
#13 Jim A,
Hell Jim, come to think of it, what would any of us do, or talk about?
I share your dream Jim, and so did John Lennon in "Imagine" and even Ozzy Osbourne in "Dreamer".
As long as mankind exists, mankind is bound and determined to get rid of mankind.
And if that sounds confusing well it is because it is.

In the meantime I'm not going to start a war with you Jim, you're far too level headed and you'd kick my @ss one way or another. And that is meant as a compliment sir, you're one guy on these threads that I respect, and there aren't too many of them.
15

Jim A,

27/08/2008 08:34:16
Postmark-55 said "you'd kick my @ss one way or another" nah not me mate, I'm a pu$$y cat these days, I'd rather sit down with a man and have a drink and roll a nice long smoke ;-)but thank you for the compliment.

Geez this paper is something else, one can't use the word pu$$y in ones comments. C'mon Scotsman staff get real here.
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27/08/2008 08:47:59
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Let's have the truth,

Not Scotland 27/08/2008 12:10:36
57Nobrain

"There is a word for people who buy into that uninsightful point of view.

Some words that spring to mind to describe people with your point of view:

Conceited, egotistical, bumptious, cavalier, overweening, opinionated, supercillious, tw@t.
18

2dogs in D.C.,

27/08/2008 12:44:29
Hey,Postmark,what are you doing here? Didn't I read you were newly bred? OOPS-WED? You ought to be back in bed.Enough said.
19

2dogs in D.C.,

27/08/2008 12:44:58
Oh,my head.
20

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27/08/2008 13:40:44
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mike - across the pond,

2 words 27/08/2008 14:19:01
Shock
as in "I am SO shocked that NK is not living up to their agreements with CHINA and Japan...." they ARE communist after all...

aw (sounds identical to awe... just a little different meaning)
as in "Aw come ON guys, couldnt you at least do it behind closed doors?"
22

mike - across the pond,

jim A 27/08/2008 14:37:48
consequences...

the PROBLEM with sabre rattling on the Korean peninsula is that the DMZ is about 40 miles from Seoul...
and the NK's have enough artillery pieces aimed at Seoul to level it with conventional munitions...

so even if we DID take out his nukes, he would take out Seoul... now in the "long run" NK would cease to exist, however this is not an acceptable trade-off.

sadly this leaves another generation of the north korean people under the despotic heel of a communist dictator... THANKS in no small part to Harry S Truman another fine example of a democrat that wasnt quite ready for the burdens of the whitehouse
23

57Nomad,

california 27/08/2008 17:49:18
#8 pms

pms said:

"And we have a word or words for you, you're a bunch of arrogant Americans who don't know when enough is enough or know when to learn."

This is a rather unusual response to my post. It, as you well know, was in response to Ivana's comments about energy sources. Did you miss that? Or perhaps you have a suggestion of your own for creating energy. Burning the bodies of executed political prisoners? That should light up Shanghai for a year or two.

As far as learning goes, we landed a man on the moon 40 years ago. Not bad for a bunch of dummies, wouldn't you say. In the meantime you should confine your energy to building houses that don't collapse and squash fifty of sixty thousand people to death every time there's a modest earthquake instead of lecturing others. Oh, yes, a nation of fast learners would know that the influenza virus can infect ducks, pigs, and people. It is the intermingling of the DNA that produces new strains of the flu. The flu is the deadliest infectious disease there is and yet you continue to fail to make even the smallest effort to alleviate the problem by educating the nine hundred million peasants that live in the filhty conditions that spawn the disease. How's the SARS deal going, you got a handle on that yet, Noodles?

As for arrogance what are we supposed to make of the name that the Chinese refer to China as, "The Middle Kingdom?" Doesn't that mean that China is below heaven but above the rest of the earth. Wow! That's pretty unarrogant.

This is my fave, though, "And we have a word or words for you." Here's our suggestion for you, write those word or words you have for us on a stiff 3 x 5 card, fold it into a conical shape and then ram it where the sun don't shine. That's how much we care about your "word or words," sheesh!



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27/08/2008 17:51:53
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57Nomad,

27/08/2008 17:52:58
Sorry for #24, clumsy keystroke
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Caora Dubh,

Croit sheasgair 27/08/2008 20:27:07
What fantastically good news for Chris Hoy and all Scotland's Olympic "heroes"! Chris must be so pleased that China's ally has stopped dismatling its reactor! Thrilled, in fact! Maybe China will start shipping weapons to Mugabe again, and torturing and killing Tibetans who are fighting for independence. Wouldn't that be wonderful news for all our Olympic "heroes"!?
27

Postmark-55,

China, 28/08/2008 03:54:52
#23 57Nomad,
Well, well 57Nomad, cheap mushrooms are still playing havoc with your single brain cell I see.
I highly suggest you read your own post at #6 again, where you had a word for me, seems to me that's what I responded to at post #8.
I don't care what you babbled about to Ivona Vujica, that has nothing to do with me.

And I wonder how California would fare with a 'modest' earthquake of 7.9, considering how 'well' it fared with quakes less than 7.
Be careful how you word things boy, it might backfire on you.

And as far as your moon landing goes, that was 39 years ago, and it seems your heads are still up there, try coming back down to earth. North Korea is using your mindset to its full advantage though, and showing the world how stupid and gullible the Americans really are, well 50% percent of Americans anyways, and you 57Nomad, lead the pack.
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Postmark-55,

China, 28/08/2008 04:02:38
#24 57Nomad,
Yup, that says it all about you boy, and it's more than a clumsy keystroke, it goes to show that you're still tripping on cheap mushrooms, having been dropped on your head on numerous occasions probably doesn't play in your favour either though I imagine.

By the way 57Nomad, have you done another count of North American countries, and did you make it past three this time?

And can you still see more than one 's' in anyways?
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57Nomad,

california 28/08/2008 23:05:21
#17 LHTT

LHTT said:

"Some words that spring to mind to describe people with your point of view:
Conceited, egotistical, bumptious, cavalier, overweening, opinionated, supercillious, tw@t."

These are the words that spring to your mind? I believe that says something about your mind. My post discussed the issue of North Korean nukes. I called no one any names. I did say that the common name for people who fight with one hand tied behind them as "suckers." Do you disagree with that?

Your post once again demonstrates that you do not know the difference between debating an issue and a jejune thesaurus aided attack on me as a person. Reread your own post and point out where you addressed a single issue, event, or idea. You won't find one. Why is that?
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57Nomad,

california 28/08/2008 23:29:17
#28 poster

poster said:

"By the way 57Nomad, have you done another count of North American countries, and did you make it past three this time?"

No, and neither did anyone else. Among the other people besides me who disagree with you are the Encyclopedia Britannica. The countries you counted are not included in Britannica's count because they lie either in Central America or in the Caribbean.

Central America can be considered the southern part of North America but there is more justification to consider it the northern part of South America. This is the historically correct interpretation. Panama, the southern most of the Central American countries was part of the nation of Colombia for over two hundred years. Colombia is a part of South America. Consequently, Panama, its northern most state was part of South America by definition. It didn't change continents just because it became independent. The other countries you mentioned are islands in the Caribbean Sea. You may count them as part of North America but you should be arguing with the people at the Britannica and not me. I already posted the Britannica's definition of the Caribbean Islands as "being south of North America and North of South America." A thing, you see, my thick skulled little friend, whether it be an island, a rock, a tree, a lake, anything really, cannot be south of itself. Is that clear to you now? There are three countries in North America. If you don't like it, argue with the people at the Britannica. I am sure they are waiting breathlessly for a geography lesson from you.

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57Nomad,

california 28/08/2008 23:36:15
Pestmark, you keep bringing up mushrooms. In fact, I love mushrooms and had some on my pizza last night. But, as befits the rest of your posts, you are confused. There was a poster on this board who extolled the virtues of the psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, the ones you seem to be referring to, but it wasn't me. Once again you are, ever so sadly, confused.

 

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