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China brands Dalai Lama 'wolf in monk's robes' as struggles deepen



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Published Date: 20 March 2008
CHINA is involved in a "life-and-death struggle" with the Dalai Lama and his followers, Beijing declared yesterday, in the latest attempt to drive a wedge between the exiled spiritual leader and Chinese citizens.
Officials described the Dalai Lama as a "wolf in monk's robes" and blamed him for organising protests in order to embarrass China during this summer's Olympic Games.

The Buddhist leader now finds himself at the centre of a global row over China.

Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, yesterday bowed to pressure and agreed to meet the Dalai Lama when he visits Britain in May.

A Downing Street spokesman said Mr Brown has told the Chinese premier, Wen Jiabao, of his plans. "We think there is a possibility for resumption of dialogue between Chinese authorities and the Dalai Lama, which is something we and the rest of the world would like to see," said the spokesman.

The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet during the 1959 uprising, suggested China may have fomented unrest in Lhasa and other nearby provinces to discredit him. He has also hinted he would resign as head of the Tibetan government-in-exile if violence got out of control – potentially handing Beijing a propaganda coup.

"The Dalai is a wolf in monk's robes, a devil with a human face but the heart of a beast," said Zhang Qingli, head of the Communist Party in Tibet. "We are now engaged in a fierce blood-and-fire battle with the Dali clique, a life-and-death battle between us and the enemy."

Building on such comments, Tibet's former governor accused the India-based Tibetan government-in-exile of engineering the riot to "disturb the social stability at such a sensitive time".

Chinese state media, meanwhile, reported more than 100 protesters had surrendered to police in and around Tibet's regional capital of Lhasa, where peaceful protests against Chinese rule first turned violent last week. The communist government had promised leniency for those who handed themselves in – and harsh punishment for those who did not.

"Those criminals … shouldn't think they can get lucky. All criminals will definitely be caught in the net," the official Tibet Daily newspaper website reported.

Foreign media are banned from Tibet, and China's entirely state-controlled media have faithfully reported only the official version of events, in which the government had said rioters killed 16 people. The government said troops did not fire on protesters and has denied claims by overseas Tibetan groups that at least 80 people were killed.

The Lhasa protests marked the biggest challenge in almost two decades to Chinese rule in the Himalayan region, which People's Liberation Army occupied in 1950 after several decades of effective independence.

Initially led by monks, the demonstrations began peacefully on 10 March, the anniversary of the failed uprising in 1959 against Chinese rule, and then spiralled out of control.

Critics say China fuels anger through harsh restrictions on Tibetan culture and Buddhism – including routine villification of the Dalai Lama, who is still deeply revered by most Tibetans.





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1

steve's here,

20/03/2008 00:46:22
China and the evil Dalai Lama ...george bush's victory in iraq...bin laden's keen sense of humour....it's time to get back ta ma scratcher the world is still mad and it will more than likely be rain tomorrow.
2

The Daleks,

Longmen 20/03/2008 00:48:06
#1

Mouthpiece and apologist.
3

Guga II,

Rockall 20/03/2008 02:20:01
#1 Druginhead. I see you are still acting as a mouth-piece for the CPC and the PLA.

No shots fired by the police and the military? You are having a laugh. Next you'll be telling us that they didn't send in the tanks either, and that the pictures of the tanks were fabricated by the Dalai Lama. How do you explain these pictures?

http://www.tchrd.org/press/2008/pr20080318c.html

No doubt you'll claim that the Tibetans employed Hollywood make-up artists to fabricate them too.

Get it through your head, the Chinese occupation of Tibet and the genocide of its people, along with the attempted destruction of its culture and religion is a criminal act, and totally in breach of international law.

Trying to swamp the country by importing more than 1 million Han Chinese, so far, will not change the facts. The Chinese government are a bunch of fascist, imperialist thugs and murderers, and all the lies spouted by semi-official mouth-pieces like yourself will not change the facts.

Boycott the Chinese Olympics.
4

Kiumars,

London, Israel 20/03/2008 02:58:19
1. I wonder what Brits would do to the God Dalai Lama and his followers if they were in the UK!

2. Can someone please tell Brown that he has no authority to talk for all the people of the world! When did the world (including 1.2 billion Chinese that make almost 25% of the earth population) elected Brown to talk on their behalf? I certainly didn't!
5

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 04:17:56
1
Dragonhead,
Dalian,China
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Dude, U are a very disillusioned Chinese.

Here are some facts dude, not about Tibet but about the lack of toilets in China.

Maybe that's why China smells like raw sewerage.
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2008 Olympics crisis over squat loos

Demand for sit-down toilets is growing, said Mr Yao

China is rushing to install sit-down loos for its 500,000 foreign Olympics visitors, after complaints that venues had only Asian-style squat toilets.

A lack of Western-style facilities was a common complaint after some 30 test events at Games venues, officials said.

"A lot of parties have raised the question of toilets... We have told the venues to improve on this," said Yao Hui, deputy head of venue management.

He said bathroom renovations were already under way at three key venues.
"Most of the Chinese people are used to the squat toilet, but nowadays more and more people demand sit-down toilets," said Mr Yao.

"However, it will take some time for this transition

He said that the proportion of squat toilets to sit-down facilities would vary depending on the nature of each venue
.
But he said most of the lavatories at the 91,000-seat National Stadium - known as the Bird's Nest, the Water Cube and the National Indoor Stadium "should be" sit-down style.

Beijing is said to be spending at least US$40bn on 37 venues for sporting events at the August Olympics, 31 of which are in Beijing.

Hey Dude,
when I visited the Great Wall and went to the bathroom. It was just a deep hole in the ground where visitors and Chinese relieved themselves. It was a putrid stinking place.

Ever heard of flush toilets dude.

U poor man.

GC



6

postmark54,

Chongqing, China 20/03/2008 04:23:44
To all you hypocrites over there in the UK and elsewhere,
How is this so called occupation any different as to what the European countries, Spain and the UK heading that list, did to all of the Americas. No apologies from any of you, but you're all quick to point the finger at China, and you don't even know why. Your media, the Scotsman included, has censored some of my opinions, because your government has told them to do so. I have not used offensive or bad language in any of the editorials, yet they have managed to keep them from being posted. So before you blame the Chinese of censorship, look in your own backyard first, and let the Chinese do what they need to do to keep their house in order.
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postmark54,

Chongqing,China 20/03/2008 04:54:20
#6 Galactic Cannibal,
You have resided in the USA far to long, you sound just like that ultra-maniac Bush. You know nothing about China, having visited the Great Wall doesn't make you an expert on Chinese affairs. Your country and its hopeless leaders, have occupied Iraq for just over 5 years now, and other than innocent people being killed there daily, including your military people, nothing has been accomplished. The problem comes from the USA over there in Iraq, not from when Saddam ruled the country. Sure, it was bad having a man like that leading their country, but it was their problem, now it has become everybody elses. You go through life with tunnel vision, that's why your comments are so ignorant. I'm sure you keep buying inexpensive Chinese products however, for you sound like the stupid greedy kind, and you only worry about how much money you can save by buying imported goods from China. Leave Dragonhead out of this, his opinions are from somebody who lives in China, and he and I and other westerners have a much clearer picture about what is happening in China. And while you're at it, leave the American Continent, it too was taken by force and most natives there lost everything they had, thanks to your ancestors.
8

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA....captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 04:55:41
1
Dragonhead,
Dalian,China


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Dude u sound more and more like a Chinese communist mouth piece.

Read the following from the BBC:

China cracks down on protest news
BBC NEWS ..March 19, 2008

China has been aggressively censoring international media in an attempt to lock down information about the violent demonstrations in Tibet's capital, Lhasa.

The anti-Chinese protests are an extremely sensitive issue for Beijing, which is desperate to avoid bad publicity only months before the Olympic Games.

In recent days, TV broadcasts have been blacked out, websites blocked or censored by China's keyword filtering system and reporters on the ground prevented from reaching the region.

The degree of censorship appears to be fluctuating and uneven, however.
On Friday - said to have been the worst day of violence in Tibet since demonstrations in 1989 - the first few live interviews on BBC World with correspondent Daniel Griffiths were blocked from local transmissions.

But repeat broadcasts of these interviews were allowed to go ahead.
In one particular hour, correspondents talking about Tibet from London could be seen on screen, but when the story shifted to a BBC correspondent in India, TV sets in Beijing went black.

On Monday and Tuesday, such censorship appeared to be less frequent.
Yet one line in a piece on Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's news conference, by the BBC's Quentin Somerville, appears to have irked the censors.

When our reporter said: "Overnight, China's deadline passed for protesters in the city to stand down - there's no immediate word on the fate of those involved in the protests", the transmission was momentarily blocked.

Other broadcasters like CNN have also been affected - with transmission blocked, and reporters obstructed, amid tight controls on physical access to Tibet, which is off-limits to foreign reporters without a permit.

Writing on Tuesday for CNN's In The Field blo
9

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA....captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 04:58:21
Galactic Cannibal #9 contd:

Field blog, correspondent John Vause said he and his crew were intercepted by Chinese police, some 300km from Ngawa county in Sichuan province, where Tibetan exile groups claim Chinese security forces have killed protesters.

It had to happen - sooner or later they were going to find us and stop us. This morning they did. Chinese police, armed with those almost toy gun-looking small calibre machine guns pulled us over, asked for passports, and told us this was the end of the road," he writes.
Earlier, on the China Rises blog, journalist Tim Johnson noted: "We foreign reporters all take precautions. We have to switch vehicles often. Some of us swap out sim cards in our mobile phones, or just turn them off. That way, authorities cannot triangulate mobile phone signals and figure out our locations.
"None of us are doing anything illegal. It's just that it's very easy for officials in the hinterlands to stop us and ask endless questions, creating delays, or simply bar us from entering areas for unspecified security reasons."
'Connection reset'
Such posts are very often invisible to the estimated 137 million internet users inside the country, however.
China operates a sophisticated keyword filtering system to censor internet content, which is capable of spotting homonyms and synonyms and even some kinds of rogue punctuation that internet users might use to sidestep the censorship.
Baidu, is the search engine most used by the Chinese - but this is heavily censored.
When the BBC tried searching on Google inside China for stories about "Tibet", the latest news stories about the protests were listed, but the stories themselves were not opening.
Searching on "Lhasa" brought up an error message saying "Connection was reset" - a familiar end to many searches for information about the protests. In recent days sites like Yahoo and Youtube have also been similarly affected.
However, while there are strong efforts to stem the flow
10

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA....captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:04:05
#9 contd GC:

of information,the proliferation of blogs, chatrooms and mobile phones has helped information about Tibetan protests to stream out.
Jeremy Goldkorn, editor of Danwei.org, which monitors China's media, said that new technology had forced the authorities to promptly acknowledge such events.
"They cannot lock down a disaster anymore," Mr Goldkorn told news agency AFP.
"Before the internet, it was possible in China to isolate an area because ordinary people did not have access to information, but that is not possible now."

'Glossed over'
Meanwhile, Chinese state media has been giving very different accounts of the violence than those found outside the country.
Chinese analysts have accused Western media of sympathising with the Tibetan people, giving prominence to critics of China's policies and reporting that hundreds of Tibetans have been injured by the security forces.

For the last few days, the state media has described the protesters as a small, politically-motivated group of criminals. State television has shown images of injured civilians in hospital, saying they were beaten or burned by the mob. The security forces have been painted as innocent victims.
At Premier Wen's news conference on Tuesday, he was asked four questions on Tibet by foreign journalists.
The state news agency Xinhua reported the government line about calm returning to Lhasa, while many other newspapers and web portals glossed over the issue, saying merely that the premier answered many questions, including on the Tibet issue, our correspondent says.
But analysts say the reporting of the protests is shaping attitudes within China, which were generally unsympathetic to Tibetans to start with.
The Chinese authorities have poured billions of dollars into building houses and big infrastructure projects in Tibet. Many Chinese view the region as a backward place which they are generously paying to develop.
They also view the Olympics as a focus of intense na
11

postmark54,

Chongqing, China 20/03/2008 05:05:58
#1 Dragonhead,
Keep up the good fight brother, in the west they have no idea what a great country China is, for they have been lied to and been misled by their so-called leaders, who are afraid of the Chinese. Everybody there is afraid of Communism, when it in fact is just another name, nothing to fear. You and I enjoy far greater freedom here than in the so-called free west, so that shows us what Democracy is all about. I won't trade China for any other Country in the World, and I came from a pretty nice place called Canada, but China has got it beat in every way. The problem in Tibet comes from separatists, not from the Chinese government.
12

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA....captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:11:45
8
postmark54,
Chongqing,China
----------------------------------------------

Hey Dude,
Are U proud and happy to live in a communist pit called CHINA where 1.3 billion of its citizens cannot vote their conscience,
And when they protest on the streets , they are killed or run over by CCP/PLA tanks.

The brutal stifling of the 1.3 billion Chinese's liberty and freedom of expression, is the greatest crime, against human rights in the history of mankind.

It is the equivalent of the countries listed below, not allowing their citizens to VOTE their conscience, nor allowing them to protest in Free speech.

USA, Brazil, Russia.
Japan, Mexico, Germany.
France, Italy, Spain.
Argentina, Poland, Canada.
Australia, UK, Ireland.
Sweden.
Total populations = 1.32 Billion
China population = 1.32 Billion

U can dismiss the communist conditioned mouth pieces like Dragonhead, who support the Chinese tyrants CCP/PLA. They are micro pawns in this Chinese apocalyptic human rights crime.

happy haggis day Dude

GC






13

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:20:08
2
postmark54,
Chongqing, China
----------------------------
Clearly U dude care nothing about freedom of speech or been able to vote.
So u came from Canada with 33 million people, ALL are able to vote.
And can protest in their streets without fear of getting killed by their Government.

Not so in the China communist pit, u now live in . Remember 1989 Tienanmen Square .

Like Dragonhead, U are a conditioned communist mouth piece I fear .

The CCP/PLA must be very happy with U duo.

GC
14

postmark54,

Chongqing, China 20/03/2008 05:21:51
Galactic Cannibal, Why are you avoiding the point I made about you and your fellow countrymen living on the American Continent that your, and my, ancestors stole not that long ago? We are all guilty of some sort of crime, you and I included. Dragonhead is not a mouthpiece for the Chinese, he is just giving you his opinion, based on what he can see what is happening in China, that's all. China is just keeping its house in order, something the USA seriously needs to do in its own backyard, instead of brainwashing its citizens about how bad the rest of the World is.
15

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:22:50
2
postmark54,
Chongqing, China

------------------------
hey Dude U could VOTE in Canada .

Can u VOTE in China.

If ur answer is NO . What the hell are U doing living in a that communist pit called CHINA..

GC.
16

Guga II,

Rockall 20/03/2008 05:23:06
#12 You are obviously another mouth-oiece for the Chinese gangster government. Like Druginhead, you seem to have quite free access to the Internet, which is more than most Chinese have. Obviously the two of you are in the pay of the thugs and murders in the politburo, or whatever that mob of undemocratic thugs call themselves these days.

The problem in Tibet comes from the forible annexation of the country by the CPC and the PLA, and the subsequent genocide of its people, the attempted destruction of its culture and religion, and the attempt to swamp the country by importing over a million Han Chinese.

Incidentally, just because George Bush is a war criminal, does not make it right for your mob to follow suit. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Boycott the Chinese Olympics.
17

postmark54,

Chongqing, China 20/03/2008 05:28:44
Galactic Cannibal, Like your vote counts in the USA, last two elections were railroaded by the Republicans, that's why you got Adolph Bush leading your country. You must be very proud. Democracy is just a nice sounding name, but really means nothing, you all get the shaft daily, but have been brainwashed into believing that you are free. There's no freedom anywhere, but China comes a lot closer than the west, a lot closer.
18

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:32:17
15
postmark54,
Chongqing, China
---------------------------------

All history reveals that every country has had its tyranny including mine the US.

However in the communist pit called CHINA in 2008 There are 1.3 billion of its citizens who cannot vote their conscience .
And when they protest in the streets of Beijing they are murdered by the CCP/PLA .. Thats a fact Dude.

U like Dragonhead are the conditioned mouth pieces of the CCP/PLA

WE have asked Dragonhead to send us a copy of CHINA's executions report. After many months he has failed to send it.

SO I ask U, how many Chinese citizens are executed each year in Chine 10,000 or 15,000. And support U answer with Chines State records .

I can give u our US records , of people executed in the US every year. Can U give me Ur's dude

If u cannot then I would say u are full of Sh*t.

GC

19

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:37:25
15
postmark54,
Chongqing, China
--------------------------------------

Hey Dude 2nd question .

How many Chinese young women of birthing age, are forced to abort each year. Is it 7 million or 11 million.

And do Ur communist controllers use their new MEV's for forced abortions, when they are not using them, to execute Chinese citizens.
INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.

GC
20

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 05:41:15
18
postmark54,
Chongqing, China
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No dude I am not proud of that ..

But that facts are, Bush will be kicked out of office in Jan 20, 2009 .

While Ur CCP unelected Tyrants will remain in power while they control the 1.3 billion Chinese through the barrel of a gun.

There is no comparison here dude.

GC
21

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 20/03/2008 05:50:40
NOBODY but NOBODY from either the USA or UK can justifiably criticise occupation of Tibet when their forces have been and still are involved in an illegal invasion that is turning out to be one of the greatest tragedies in human history.

Talk of boycotting the Beijing olympics is the height of hypocrisy.

Would China be justified in boycotting the London games because of the illegal, with malice aforethought invasion and occupation of Iraq by the UK?

Come to think of it,why weren't the LA and Atlanta games boycotted because of the 3 million slaughtered in Viet Nam?
22

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 06:10:01
22
Let's have the truth,
Queensland
---------------------------

Dude ,

How do U feel about 1.3 billion Chinese not able to vote their conscience.

It is the equivalent of the countries listed below, not allowing their citizens to VOTE their conscience, nor allowing them to protest in Free speech.

USA, Brazil, Russia.
Japan, Mexico, Germany.
France, Italy, Spain.
Argentina, Poland, Canada.
Australia, UK, Ireland.
Sweden.
Total populations = 1.32 Billion
China population = 1.32 Billion

OR are u a supporter of Ban free speech and BAN the right of people to VOTE.
Would u like to see the 21 million Aussies BANNED from voting.

Question on a minor issue .
How is ur slaughter of the kangaroos going, Dude.

Happy Kangaroo Slaughter day

GC
23

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 20/03/2008 06:14:39
22
Let's have the truth,
Queensland

U wrote:
"Would China be justified in boycotting the London games because of the illegal, with malice aforethought invasion and occupation of Iraq by the UK?"

YES they would . But the UK does not BAN their 60 million citizens from voting their conscience.
CHINA does to its 1.3 billion citizens .

ITS all about the freedom and liberty of any individual Dude.

Can't U understand that.

GC
24

Pilrig.,

Livingston 20/03/2008 06:17:38
1 - and Santa Claus exists too !
25

Pilrig.,

Livingston 20/03/2008 06:18:51
China's rule of Tibet is a beacon of success and humanity.
26

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA....Bye Bye Bush -Cheney..u. evil lead 20/03/2008 06:19:39
15 of the 24 posts so far are from GC . fighting for the freedom and liberty of 1.3 billion Chinese who cannot vote their conscience..

It is the single greatest political crime in the history of humankind..

Nothing comes close to it, this Chinese CCP/PLA tyranny.

Galactic Canibal

GC
27

Pilrig.,

Livingston 20/03/2008 06:23:14
I can criticise the occupation of Tibet cos I was against the invasion of Iraq from the word go.

I wish everyone would boycott all the f*ckin Olympics cos they're a waste of money, unlike the World Cup.
28

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 20/03/2008 06:41:12
# 23

"Question on a minor issue .
How is ur slaughter of the kangaroos going, Dude".

.....Shock'n'awe man, Shock'n'awe!



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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 20/03/2008 06:44:29
GC

...Why are you so fixated on "voting their conscience" as you put it?

"Voting your conscience" in the US 2004 elections didn't do you a hell of a lot of good.
30

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA...bye Bush -Cheney..u. evil leaders. 20/03/2008 06:57:00
30
Let's have the truth,
Q
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U are correct Dude,

But if we were not able to vote, we could have an a**hole like Bush in power , for as long as he held power through "the barrel of a gun"

The Chinese cannot VOTE dude, so HU JINTAO and his UN-ELECTED gang ,can rule their lives "through the barrel of a gun" for as long as they have guns and bullets.

NOT "Guns and Roses" dude.

GC

31

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 20/03/2008 07:04:16
GC

China's development isn't ready for "democracy" as we know it just as the US is not mature enough for a black, red or inuit president.

In the meantime you'll have to make do with lame brained anglo-saxon idiots with a speech impediment.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

20/03/2008 10:07:52
1....Aye thats what you've been told to believe and like a good little sympathiser you are doing just that. Isnt it strange how the government supporters just blatantly ignore facts? but then that is the communist way. Its all great in theory but what it boils down to is 4 legs good 2 legs better. Still I suppose D.heid has to play ball otherwise they'd kick him oot the country...bye bye Mrs D.heid...

There are a lot of shameful acts going on in the world right now... mostly territorial, oppression or thievery.. but that does not mean that we cannot criticise what is going on in Tibet. The atrocities like Galactic Cannibal speaks of (forced abortions) should be repugnant to any decent civilized human being... the silencing of the press and the internet says it all. I dread to think what will happen next because the Chinese government will do whatever it can to silence protestors... we have seen this evidenced already in Tiananmen Square... which was after all, only 1989.

Free the Panchen Lama!
33

PANCHEN LAMA - IMPRISONED BY CHINESE GOVERNMENT,

20/03/2008 10:14:03
In 1995 the Dalai Lama named a 6 year old boy as the re-incarnation of the 10th Panchen Lama, an important spiritual leader of Tibet. The Chinese government immediately arrested and imprisoned this child and his family. The Chinese government then 'named' their own 'Panchen Lama' another 6 year old child who became the puppet of the Chinese oppressors. He will now be 19 years of age but no one knows the whereabouts of the genuine named Panchen Lama, or even if he is alive. Outside agencies have been allowed no contact with him since his disappearance. This child has been kidnapped by the Chinese government.

FREE THE PANCHEN LAMA!!
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20/03/2008 11:36:22
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Neil,

Glasgow 20/03/2008 12:08:23
Guga you have proved, with your post about Serb rioting in Kosovo yesterday that you are an out 7 out racist Nazi. It therefore comes as no surprise that you repeat every possible lie about rioting in Tibet today.

2 facts remain indisputible:

1) The Chinese have demonstrated thousands of time more concern for human rights in Tibet than our obscene genocidal Nazi leaders have in Krajina & Kosovo.

2) Chinese coverage has made major play of films showing the Lama's monks at the heart of the rioting whereas such pictures have been notable omitted from western coverage. Unlike our media's censorship of the Dragodan & other massacres in Kosovo & Krajina the Chinese media are actually reporting the events. This is evidence that the Chinese media are biased & ours totally impartial - our media insist.
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malkster,

Scotland 20/03/2008 13:23:11
#12

the difference is that it is now the 21st century and some of us have evolved.
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yockel,

20/03/2008 13:29:49
The fewer faith schools the betterI say.
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20/03/2008 14:19:14
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P.K,

20/03/2008 14:43:17
#43

Just a word of caution. You are giving your private cell phone number away in this open forum. I thought you should have just given your e-mail address instead of the phone number. As you know, there are some internet pests around who do not like what you post, your views and they could pretend to be Dragonhead.

I travel out by air very often meeting overseas clients but I have always been discreet giving away my private HP number to unfamiliar people.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 20/03/2008 14:50:38
#44,
Thank you for your kind words of wisdom, careless on my part, should have known better, lesson hopefully learned from this. Thanks again, people like you make this a good world.
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P.K,

20/03/2008 14:53:42
#45

Quick, press the "Report Unsuitable" button and inform the Administrator to remove your post as soon as possible and explain to him/her for doing that. That will do the trick, I suppose.
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA...bye Bush -Cheney..u. evil leaders. 20/03/2008 15:40:25
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Dragonhead,
Dalian,China
U wrote:

#12 Postmark54,Chongqing, China. Don't bother with GC, he is a faecal agitator and has frequent attacks of verbal diahorrea,triggered by his addled brain.

------------------------------------------------

Dragonhead Dude

This is 2008 and still Ur tyrannical Government CCP/PLA enslave its 1.3 billion citizens by not allowing them to vote their conscience.

FACT FACT FACT.in 2008
It is the greatest political crime in human history.

Between 7 million and 11 million Chinese women are forced to abort each year, by ur CCP agents

FACT FACT FACT. in 2008.

Between 10,000 to 15,000 Chinese citizens are executed each year by ur CCP agents

U have NEVER denied that and when We ask U for proof U do not send it.

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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA...bye Bush -Cheney..u. evil leaders. 20/03/2008 15:53:08
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Dragonhead,
Dalian,China
-----------------------------------

DRagonhead Dude.

U can paint the past history anyway U want, but U cannot run from the FACTS of 2008.

1.3 billion Chinese CANNOT vote their conscience.

7 million to 11 million Chinese women are forced to abort every year.

10,000 to 15,000 Chinese are executed every year.

Prove otherwise, and I will cease and desist my criticism.

In Ur house have U a squat toilet of a flush toilet.

Seems Ur CCP are caught off guard, by the fact they are being forced to install western flush toilets in their Olympic venues .

They had not planned for that and so Westerners were faced with using the Chinese SQUAT toilets . These are the most putrid s*it holes and insanitary U can find.


GC

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Guga II,

Rockall 20/03/2008 16:41:50
Druginhead. You still can't get away from the fact that you are a semi-official mouth-piece for a mob of gangsters and murderers. How do you get such priveleged access to the Internet otherwise? I don't know whether Postmark54 is really you pretending you are someone else, or yet another paid for mouth-piece.

No matter what lies you try and spin on behalf of your masters, the fact remains that the illegal occupation and annexation of Tibet is still a criminal act by your gangster masters.

We should all boycott the Chinese Olympics, otherwise these gangsters will think we approve of their murderous tactics in dealing with the Tibetans, the other minority groups under Chinese control, and even their brutality towards their own people. Remember Tiananmen Square, when even their own people were shot down, beaten up, imprisoned and tortured.

You've sold your soul to the devil Druginhead, and all your lies and spin are to no avail. I wish there was a hell, as people like you would roast in it for eternity for your complicity in murder by that clique of gangsters that call themselves the Chinese government.
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Neil,

Glasgow 20/03/2008 16:55:02
Guga having made an accusation against somebody else here could you, in turn, prove that though you have proven yesterday that are an out & out racist supporter of Nazism with not the most remote interest in human rights, in this particular case you are not being paid to spout your disgusting racist filth.

If you are not perhaps you could explain why you are so upset about a handful of dead Tibetansis so much worse than the genocide of half a million "Untermensch"? The same question applies to anybody else atacking China who has not spentt 10,000 times as much effort in attacking the genocidal monsters in the cabinet Office?
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA...bye Bush -Cheney..u. evil leaders. 20/03/2008 18:23:13
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Neil,
Glasgow 20/03/2008
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ITS 2008 dude, not 1945 or 1914.

But in 2008, the CCP tyrants deny the right of 1.3 billion Chinese citizens to VOTE .

That is a fact dude.

And show me, a human rights crime of greater magnitude, any place in history, or anywhere in the world today, outside CHINA. YOU CAN'T Dude.

Western Leaders are spinless to tolerate this human rights abuse, of 1/4 of the world's population the 1.3 billion Chinese.

And Western CEO's don't give a damn about the Chinese, and their loss of liberty and freedom to VOTE.

These CEO's wallow in greed, and profit made off the backs of the masses of Chinese slave labor. The masses who can't vote.

Dude next week tell the Scots people, hey guys, U cannot VOTE and U cannot protest. If U try we will shoot U or lock U up.

See how that goes down with Alex Salmond, and his lot.
GC

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I. am. become. death. the. destroyer. of. worlds.,

20/03/2008 20:00:00
http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/98.php/?CLICK_TF_TRACK

Please sign the online petition calling for the Chinese government to resume peaceful talks and end their violence towards the Tibetan people.
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BenTen,

21/03/2008 08:57:29
I reckon PostMark54 is another deranged Muslim who probably has never even been in Chongqing. What is really sad is that people escape a simple fact that the Chinese government treats people in Tibet no different from people in the rest of China - they CRUSH anyone who speaks out against them - it is that simple.

So how does the West react - we give them the Olympics. Perhaps the next big protest wont be in T'iemin Square but in the new shiny stadium - we may then be talking about the 'Birds Next Massacre'!!
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Biker,

Ayr 21/03/2008 09:30:34
Dragonhead. Do you actually believe the drivel you spout? Are you so stupid as to think that the world does not see what is going on? If it smells like sh1t, looks like sh1t, then there is a fair chance sh1t is what it is. Your constant rantings on how fair and good the Chinese system is is now becoming a bore, as it appears that your grip on the truth is tenuous at best.
1500 executions and rising yearly.
1 child families now re-enstated fully
The crimes in Tibet (going back almost 50 years)
people moved from their homes to build Olympic stadia (without compensation)
And the list goes on.
Postmank, you seem to be deluded into believing that dunderhead is mearly giving an opinion. He is assuredly NOT. Anyone who opinions that Tianeman (apologies for the spelling)Square stories are now getting "old"is a fool and an apologist for the regime. Whilst I aplaud anyone moving abroad and embracing their new native culture, this should not blind you to their collective faults. Human Rights violations are wrong and sadly China has the worst record, even with its own people. Recognise that and try to change it.
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Biker,

Ayr 21/03/2008 10:05:17
Neil. Perhaps you can point me to where it proves that the Chinese are humaniterian. As far as I can see they fall very short on many counts.
It is dissengenuous to claim that the world is given only one side of the argument, especially with communications systems being so sophisticated. Proof comes from various sources including Amnesty International and Witness, although dunderhead has already dissmissed them out of hand.
I also take exception to your calling Guga a nazi. I personally dont know the man but have been reading his posts for some time and I dont think that the tag Nazi can be hung on him.

 

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