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Canada apologises to Indians for years of abuse in schools



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Published Date: 12 June 2008
CANADA'S prime minister was to offer a public apology yesterday for his country's century-long policy of forcing Canadian Indian children into Christian schools to strip them of their aboriginal culture.
From the 19th century until the 1970s, more than 150,000 children were sent to the state-funded schools. Many were forced to leave their parents' homes, as part of a programme to integrate them into Canadian society, and became victims of physical a
nd sexual abuse.

At least 200 former students were invited to Ottawa to witness what native leaders called a pivotal moment for Canada's one million aboriginals, who remain the nation's poorest and most disadvantaged group.

Michael Cachagee was four years old when he was taken from his parents and sent to a school. "The intent was to destroy the Indian," he said. He is one of 80,000 surviving students.

"Aboriginal Canadians have been waiting for a very long time to hear an apology from the Parliament of Canada," Stephen Harper, the prime minister, told MPs this week.

At dawn yesterday, aboriginals set a sacred fire and conducted a sunrise ceremony near parliament, ahead of Mr Harper's announcement.

More than 100 people gathered for a ceremony at the site of a former residential school in Shubenacadie, Nova Scotia, on the east coast.

Mr Cachagee, who won a seat on the floor of the House of Commons to listen, said the apology could not be "shallow and hollow".

He spent 12½ years at three different schools from 1944. "I was beaten. I was put in tubs of hot water. I suffered great pains of hunger. I was force-fed rotten food. They called me all kinds of names," he said.

Phil Fontaine, the national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, said: "This is not just about survivors; this is about Canada coming to terms with its past and maturing as a nation."

Canada has offered compensation to those who were taken from their families.



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  • Last Updated: 11 June 2008 10:16 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Scullion,

Canada 12/06/2008 01:13:32
Before we Canadians start fulminating against other nations' disregard of human rights, we should remember what we have done to our own people.
An apology may only be symbolic but I do believe this one is an earnest acceptance of a devastating wrong imposed upon a race of people.
Even the large class action settlement figure agreed upon is inadequate compensation. It is our shame.
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bilI,

england 12/06/2008 01:22:55
Canada is late jumping on the human rights band wagon. I’ve been to Canada and the people are not friendly and they have an abhorrent health care system, it may be inexpensive but you get what you pay for!
3

truthsleuth,

12/06/2008 01:37:03
Stop being so stupid and apologising its meaningless.

Some of our ancestors were massacred/enslaved by the Romans, Vikings, Normans and the English.
We should be seeking an apology from
The Scandinavian countries
The Italians
The French
When we get the apology we shall be seeking recompense

Furthermore for our efforts in the First and Second world wars the UK should seek payment from most European nations and from some Asian Nations after all these wars bankrupted these islands and we had an enormous repayment of debt to the USA which had to erepay.

4

bilI,

england 12/06/2008 01:58:31
#3 truthsleuth

Good points! I would like to apologize for England for bringing slavery to America. It’s our fault for beginning that awful mess to them and thank God the Yanks stopped it less than 100 years after they formed their country.
5

Truely English,

12/06/2008 03:33:26
3
The Scots do not need to say sorry as they did not give the orders during the Empire days, no, they only carried them out.

6

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 12/06/2008 04:03:58
5 Truely English

Most of Amaerica'a founding fathers were Scots or Ulster Scots, the remaining like Alexander Hamilton who was born on the Carribean Island of Nevis, both his parents were from Scotland, Of course you know John Know the first Secretary of War, Brockholst Livingston the first Supreme Court Justice who swore in President Washington who insisted to be surrounded by men of Scots and Scots/Irish background.
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Guga II,

Rockall 12/06/2008 07:20:04
#7 Bugsy.

They should really call the Indians "Americans" and "Canadians" as they have been there for around 18,000 years. The rest of them, i.e. the incomers, should be called "New Americans" and "New Canadians".
9

El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 12/06/2008 08:14:20
This reminds me of South Africa 1948 - 1990
10

El Sabio,

Sibbertoft 12/06/2008 08:15:00
Racism will always be with us
11

Lobeydoser,

12/06/2008 09:38:18
Re #10 "Racism will always be with us".

How right you are! Its never far from the pages of this newspaper.
12

Cauchy Riemann,

Wales 12/06/2008 09:48:42
To play devils advocate. They had a uniform method of schooling to encourage everyone to be the same. (A European mindset).

Isn't that what many people are calling for today? Get rid of all divisiveness in education and have complete uniformity so we encourage everyone to be the same?
13

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

12/06/2008 10:33:29
12...Wot..sexual and physical abuse?...probably regular humiliation in front of white kids?...scalding baths...

So the white kids suffered the above too...just to keep a balance eh?...what morals and principals did these fine examples teach these kids eh?....
14

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Calum Crubag,

12/06/2008 12:51:15
"forcing Canadian Indian children into Christian schools to strip them of their aboriginal culture"

Funny how the Christians are now the ones wanting 'rights'.

The same happened to us. Most Gaels over 40 and tens of thousands who've lost the Gaelic since infancy were punished in a variety of ways for speaking their community tongue.

Met an old woman from Arasaig a few years back who was RE-learning Gaelic. She spoke no English until it was beaten into her at the age of 5 or 6. But then again, since when did indigenous white Scots get an apology? All we get is whinging from Daily Mail-types about money going on roadsigns and telly. Some perspective..
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 12/06/2008 13:12:52
Not only did they get an apology, they also got a $42,000 cheque.
So when do the English start handing out the Highland Clearances cheques? And how do I apply?
17

Scullion,

Canada 12/06/2008 13:55:26
#16-Ask your own countrymen first; Scots landowners were at the top of the heap when throwing out their own to replace them with sheep. Don't be so selective with your history. Look up Admiral John Ross.
18

Stuart 2,

Pennylvania Wilds 12/06/2008 14:19:22
What should we call the originalsettlers in America. Native Americans, wasn't called America when they came.
Know and talked with many Indians that is what they want to be called. They don't want the PC hogwash.

As for John Ross, he is in my wife's family tree and is much respected by the Cherokee. He walked the trail of tears.

Time to embrace all citizens of a country as one. Canadians, Scots, Americans, etc. We should welcome with open arms legal immigrants with open arms and introduce them to the host country's culture and let them assimulate.

They can contribute a lot of their culture. I know we live it in America. That is why we are who we are. We created a new culture, a little bit of every culture sadly the pc activist wants throw it out.
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Iain's,

Barcelona. 12/06/2008 15:04:33
Fact. The population of Canada with native American ancestors is about 4%. The US only about 1.5%.
Mexico the percentage is over 80%

So the Spaniards were not so bad after all.

This was not genocide but extermination.

Even today, the US government has a Bureau of Indian Affairs. It may not have a politically correct name but it keeps them on the reservation!

20

Calum Crubag,

12/06/2008 15:31:49
#17 - true, there was/ still are many Scots who either detest their country's native culture and tongue or are too willing to make a quick buck from it.

21

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/06/2008 17:14:19
I believe that "Indians" are from India and those who were apologised to yesterday are "First Nations" people such as the Algonquin, Micmac (spelling variations abound here), the Ottawans who migrated north from the US of A, and many other "tribes" or associations of First Nations founders and successors.

Walking by Parliament Hill yesterday was NOT an eye-opener for me because your usual preconception of a First Nations person as being complected in a non-white manner is belied by those with decidedly "Caucasian" complections. Interesting.

13 Horrible Cankers

Good afternoon, madam, and don't get your knickers in a twist over a decidedly Canadian issue that has bedevilled us for decades and is now, hopefully, on the road to a long rectification.

It is just after noon here and the heat and humidity has broken and a VERY pleasant +23 degrees Celcius with low humidity.

I tried to get into the galleries at our House of Commons but they were PACKED with invited guests, the media, and supporters of this historic moment that has been our national disgrace for too long.

This MAY redeem Stephen Harper's reputation in Canada.
22

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/06/2008 17:24:16
6 Nancy Pelosi from SF, CA

When you speak of "American" do you mean North American or just those south of the 49th parallel?

The founding fathers of Canada were not just Scots, but also the British, the Irish, the French, etc.

Our most famous and illustrious Scots Prime Minister was that notorious dipsomaniac and orator, Sir John Alexander Macdonald from Glasgow, Scotland.

How very, very different is our heritage in Canada than your in the US of A because we ARE different in a good way and the rash observation by #2 bill from England is truly uninformed.

#2 bill from England

Just how long were you in Canada, where did you visit, and did you use our health system or is your rash judgment predicated by what you read and hear and see in newspapers - even the august Scotsman - and other media?
23

Guga II,

Rockall 12/06/2008 17:58:15
#17 Scullion.

The most notorious "landowner" during the clearances was the Duke of Sutherland, an Englishman.
24

Douglas,

Bathgate 12/06/2008 19:54:58
Tim, I know nothing of Canadian healthcare but I do know that when we visitied Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa and the inplressive side of the falls some 15 years ago now, the vast majority of people were open and friendly. Maybe Bill just got back what he put in.
(A pleasant change to agree with you BTW). :O)
25

Moreen,

Scotsdale, AZ 12/06/2008 22:37:13
22 TimW1234,Ottawa

Then why do those with money in Canada often come to the USA for surgeries for quality care and to avoid the long lines of the incompetent government system in Canada?
26

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/06/2008 22:50:04
25 Moreen

This may have been the case more in the past but we are now getting more and more specialists that you pay for in Canada that are outside the universal healthcare system in the US of A so we won't have to put up with arrogant, loudmouth statement from Yankees like you.
27

Regina,

NH, USA 12/06/2008 23:17:08
#25 Moreen

It appears you have ruffled the feathers of my new Gay friend Tim. As you can see he is very sensitive and quick with the insults.
28

Regina,

NH, USA 12/06/2008 23:20:46
Timmy

Why is the hip replacement center of Canada in Ohio–at the Cleveland Clinic, where 10% of its international patients are Canadians … Why is Brain and Spine Center in Buffalo serving about 10 border-crossing Canadians a week?

29

Regina,

NH, USA 12/06/2008 23:22:15
Timmy

The Number of Canadians on waiting lists for referrals to specialists or for medical services–875,000.

It would appear that Canadians with sufficient financial means are seeking medical treatment in a country where such waiting lists exist only in the the fond dreams of single-payer advocates.

And what about the Canadians who don’t have the money to come here for care? I guess they just pray that their illnesses don’t kill them before the vaunted Canadian system can fit them in.

30

Regina,

NH, USA 12/06/2008 23:23:58
Timmy

Canadians, and other peoples more civilized than we are, can afford to be smug about their “rational” healthcare systems to at least some extent because the “irrational” American healthcare system exists. Their richer citizens can come here for care, thus decompressing what otherwise might be a powerful voice for change. Non-American companies can invent healthcare products, knowing that a market exists for selling those products at a profit - it exists here. Most importantly, American ingenuity percolates to other nations over time (often at famously discounted prices), so there is indeed continued medical progress in countries like Canada. It’s just that this progress is subsidized by the American taxpayer.

If the great American engine of healthcare progress should finally fail (by, say, adopting a Canadian-like system), healthcare will change radically not only here, but all over the world.

31

Regina,

NH, USA 12/06/2008 23:28:50
http://blog.acton.org/archives/2220-Will-Socialized-Health-Care-in-the-US-Kill-Canadians.html

Will Socialized Health Care in the US Kill Canadians?

More than 400 Canadians in the full throes of a heart attack or other cardiac emergency have been sent to the United States because no hospital can provide the lifesaving care they require here.

Most of the heart patients who have been sent south since 2003 typically show up in Ontario hospitals, where they are given clot-busting drugs. If those drugs fail to open their clogged arteries, the scramble to locate angioplasty in the United States begins...

...While other provinces have sent patients out of country – British Columbia has sent 75 pregnant women or their babies to Washington State since February, 2007 – nowhere is the problem as acute as in Ontario.

At least 188 neurosurgery patients and 421 emergency cardiac patients have been sent to the United States from Ontario since the 2003-2004 fiscal year to Feb. 21 this year. Add to that 25 women with high-risk pregnancies sent south of the border in 2007.

Although Queen’s Park says it is ensuring patients receive emergency care when they need it, Progressive Conservative health critic Elizabeth Witmer says it reflects poor planning.

That is particularly the case with neurosurgery, she said, noting that four reports since 2003 have predicted a looming shortage.

“This province and the number of people going outside for care – it’s increasing in every area,” Ms. Witmer said.

“I definitely believe that it is very bad planning. ...We’re simply unable to meet the demand, but we don’t even know what the demand is.”
32

Regina,

NH, USA 12/06/2008 23:31:00
The Canadian system is supposedly one of the main models upon which the coming American health care revolution will be based. And yet this wondrous Canadian system seems to be more and more incapable of providing relatively common medical procedures to Canadian citizens, even in Canada’s most populous province. Because the system is controlled by a bureaucracy, it doesn’t respond to market pressures (goodness knows that most of the time, bureaucracies barely respond to political pressure) and in fact can’t even figure out what the market is demanding. All of this results in the Canadian government relying on the supposedly inferior US system to provide lifesaving care in many instances. No wonder 3 out of 4 Canadians live within easy driving distance of the US border.

So what happens if we decide to go down the path toward single-payer health care in the US? You’d have to be a fool to think that we could try the same thing that the Europeans and Canadians have done and get different results. No, in the long run, we’ll experience the same sorts of inefficiencies, quality and supply problems that plague the government systems, and yes, more Canadians will die, because the safety net that currently exists for the Canadian system here in the United States will be gone.
33

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/06/2008 10:25:56
#27 Regina

Since we have not been formally introduced and you know nothing about me nor do I about you, I am NOT your "new friend" of whatever persuasion. I am just another poster on these forums.

I read your postings with interest and appreciate the research and time you took to write as you did.

If you want these discussions to continue on a civilised level, please refrain from reference to anybody's personal life UNLESS they volunteer it.

It just muddies the waters and makes people wonder what your motives are.

I DO acknowledge and concur with much of what you say but it is the dichotomy in the USA where it is the rich who get the best medical care and even then they may have to mortgage or sell their homes or take out an exorbitant loan if a calamitious illness such as cancer develops or a chronic medical condition worsens.

I have just viewed "Sicko" by Michael Moore and found it to be sensationalistic and alarmist. He has many, many facts but his presentation is confrontational, smug, and off-putting.

One has to view his movies with more than a grain of salt.

I banter with certain people on this forum such as Horrible Cankers and we have come to an understanding that there are certain limitations to where we can go in our mental peregrinations and when pointed banter becomes offensive.

Perhaps you could stick with the subject without persistently dragging in what you "perceive" you know of my personal life -or anybody else's, for that matter. It detracts from your interesting posts.

I again thank you for your research.
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Hemingway,

Ayr 13/06/2008 11:49:12
34 Horrible Cankers

Oh that's rich, you the worst foul mouthed troll calling someone else a troll.
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Hemingway,

Ayr 13/06/2008 11:49:24
X
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bikewoman,

13/06/2008 14:40:34
#37 TimW1234

As a lesbian I’m glad you came out last week, I just wish you would tone it down in the insult department. There is no need to get down in the gutter with HC to discuss issues. BTW - Defending the indefensible is no way to win over friends.
39

Tobermory,

Mull 13/06/2008 17:40:22
Michael Moore is the Master of propaganda

It is not hard to recognize Moore as an equal-opportunity hater. All one has to do is listen to him speak at a recent showing of his Bush-bashing film to the ACLU.

Moore doesn't limit his disgust to just a few high profile Americans; he levels his contempt at all Americans. Moore told Katie Couric that Americans should aspire to be "more like Canadians."

Moore saves his best shots against his fellow Americans for when he is in Europe, where he is adored for his vocal loathing of his countrymen. In Germany, he mused that since America is full of such ignorant people, how could it be that such fools were able to rise to power? Moore laughed that Americans always have a "big a — grin on our face all the time, because our brains aren't loaded down." He said that the American system is so flawed that Germany should never consider trying to copy it but stay on their correct socialist path.
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Tobermory,

Mull 13/06/2008 17:42:52
Michael Moore's contentious film Fahrenheit 9/11 has opened in Poland, with some film critics likening it to totalitarian propaganda.

Gazeta Wyborcza reviewer Jacek Szczerba called the film a "foul pamphlet". He said it was too biased to be called a documentary and was similar to work by Nazi propaganda director Leni Riefenstahl.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/06/2008 18:17:52
I see that Horrible Canker's defence of me at #37 has been removed by those who would rather not see the truth and would rather promulgate their own prejudices and views and will NOT counter any dissenting opinions.

Why is everybody all of a sudden "down" on Horrible Cankers? She is quite amusing and frank in her posts and certainly not what other posters are trying to foist on her.

#38 bikewoman

Why have you not castigated #35 Hemingway for that mean-spirited and insulting of that post? Is this person part of the "cabal" of the disaffected who will tolerate no dissent?

BTW - I do not post on these threads to "win over friends". I have enough as it is and some of the posters are distinctly UNfriendly and argumentative.

If only we could "argue" in one of its original meanings of "a discourse intended to persuade or to convince" with argumentation being "the methodical setting forth of premises and the drawing of conclusions therein".

Instead, we are embroiled in innuendo, inference, rumour, and even the mis-stating facts.

Are we to be forever trapped in a slanging match and throwing reason and courtesy out of the window (defenestration by diatribe and deception?).

I admire those who stick with the subject or thread and ignore the hidden agendas that some of us have.

I don't know whether I have an "agenda" or if I can remember what it is or it changes so often, IF I have one, even I have lost my meandering train of thought.



Sad.
42

Mod Htng Tartan 16oz,

13/06/2008 18:46:35
#41 TimW1234,Ottawa

Glad to see you agree Horrible Cankers is a troll, I thought a Stalinist socialist like yourself would side with trolls like Horrible Cankers especially since she is also Gay.
43

Mod Htng Tartan 16oz,

PEI, Cda 13/06/2008 18:53:29
#41 TimW1234,Ottawa

Do you ever go to Touche on Clarence Street or Swizzles on Queen Strret?
44

mike - across the pond,

questions for Tim & Scullion 13/06/2008 19:32:37
I find it interesting that the actions of the canadian government was depicted as being with the "intent of destroying the indian culture"...

B.S.... I dont believe that human nature, even north of the border, is THAT sinister.... endangering "the indian culture" may have been the RESULT... but I personally believe the INTENT was to break the cycle that was leading to poverty, and illiteracy... the methods chosen may not be what you would like to have seen, but the intent... I dont know, I dont think you can go that far...

of course if you are saying that "poverty and illiteracy" is a vital part of the indian culture... well I just dont know what to say, the GOAL of western lifestyle is to to destroy the "culture" of poverty and illiteracy... isnt it? and is fighting poverty and illiteracy a bad thing?

but I suppose you want your cake and to eat it too...
45

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 13/06/2008 20:05:01
41 TimW1234

There was no fact by HC, only her paranoia about smelling a troll, which is funny coming from her.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/06/2008 21:40:07
#42 & #43 Mod Tartan

@ My post #41. I fail to detect any criticism of HC by me. Are we reading the same post or is there a problem in "interpretation"?

@ Your post #42 I suppose you will have to ask HC herself about her personal life as if it is any of our business rather than cast about frivolous words. Do you know her personally? Have you read any of her other posts in various threads? Do you always make such pronouncements seemingly "out of the blue"? Sheesh.

@ Your post #43. I am unfamiliar with these places except by reputation. I but rarely go to public bars and prefer to entertain at home or accept the gracious invitations of my friends.


I realise it is Friday the 13th and maybe some of us should have ceased ALL electronic communication, including me. This has turned into a raging, flaming gossip column.
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13/06/2008 22:49:35
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 14/06/2008 09:47:58
49 E.M.K.

It is always nice to throw allegations and insults around. I, and others, have been roundly castigated fordoing EXACTLY what you are doing in your posting.

I wonder if your cabal of co-conspirators would DARE criticise you.

Are "Hemmingway" and "Hemingway" the same person?

Just wondering.
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suzuky7502000,

Belgium 15/06/2008 12:52:32
In 1995 Us apologised to Japan for dropping the bomb; but did Japan apologise for attacking Pearl Harbour??
All these events were part of a context and apologies will not stop these atrocities to happen again.
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radge dug,

15/06/2008 19:19:19
#52 - except though that the US have invaded or somehow interfered with over 50 countries since the end of WWII. They have been condemened on numerous occasions by the UN for their use of terrorism and torture. So, what is the 'context'? Greed and domination? Hypocrisy?

 

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