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Published Date: 23 July 2008
HOTELS in Beijing are slashing their room rates for next month's Olympics after an expected rush of visitors failed to materialise.
The Chinese capital had originally been expecting 500,000 foreign guests for the Games, but that estimate has been scaled back. Some people have been scared off by high prices, while others have had trouble getting visas amid tightened security.

Fan Runjun, of the Chinese travel website Ctrip.com, said many two-star to four-star hotels had reduced their prices by between 10 per cent and 20 per cent compared with May and June.

Some had slashed rates by as much as 30 per cent, said Mr Fan, whose site lists about 500 hotels in its English-language section.

The usual pre-Olympic festive atmosphere that host cities experience has not yet hit Beijing, with some hotels feeling empty and listless. In June, the number of tourists heading to Beijing, including overseas and domestic visitors, declined by 19.9 per cent from a year earlier, according to the Beijing Tourism Authority.

Now, average room prices in three-star hotels are down to 400 yuan (£30) per night, from 700 yuan in previous months. Four-star hotels have dropped their rates to about 800 yuan a night, from 1,500 yuan.

China has ratcheted up security for the Olympics, tightening visa rules even for foreign travellers who hold tickets for the Games, which will run from 8 to 24 August. Multiple-entry visas have also been restricted, causing a drop in business travel.

The government has said the Games are a target for terrorists, and it has reported breaking up plots to attack the event by Islamic radicals in the western province of Xinjiang. In a show of force, China's military has stationed a ground-to-air missile battery only 300 metres from one Beijing Olympic venue.

Luo Qiong, a public relations manager at the Xiao Xiang Hotel, a three-star establishment near the Temple of Heaven in southern Beijing, said it had cut prices by 20 per cent.

That followed a drop in the number of guests caused by the visa restrictions and the fact many exhibitions had moved to other cities in China.

"As a result of all that, our occupancy isn't as good as we expected. And I don't think things will get any better, even with the rate cut," she said.

A man named Wu from the China Hotel Management Association, who was unwilling to give his full name or position, as is common in China, said most three-star hotels or below were cutting prices because occupancy rates were not as high as expected.

"Now that they found there are not enough guests booking their rooms, they have to cut their prices," he said.

Most hotels that have been approved by the Beijing Olympic Organising Committee are four- or five-star, Mr Wu said, and their rooms have already been booked. Those hotels cater to Olympic officials, sponsors and national Olympic delegations, and their prices were set last year by negotiation, rather than by market demand.

Tian Ye, the manager of the sales department of the three-star Fuhao Hotel in the central shopping district of Wangfujing, minutes from Tiananmen Square, said it cut its rates last month by about 20 per cent.

He revealed that a quarter of the hotel's foreign bookings had been cancelled at the end of May as a result of the massive earthquake in south-west China and the snowstorms that struck the south in February. "It is getting harder as the Olympics approaches to sell rooms. Now we have cut our prices to attract domestic guests," he said.

BACKGROUND

THE security measures being taken in Beijing for the Olympics are unprecedented in peacetime, with some fearing a heavy handedness that could mar the event. Already a battle is being fought with foreign TV companies denied access to Tiananmen Square, as well as control over broadcasts.

Some measures are less invasive to foreigners, such as a one-month ban announced yesterday on the production and sale of replica guns.

Beijing has started security checks on people entering airport terminals and is asking subway passengers to take a swig of any bottled fluids they carry. The government was yesterday forced to deny a report of a ban on Africans and Mongolians in bars for the duration of the games because of concern over drug-dealing.

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  • Last Updated: 22 July 2008 10:02 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: 2008 Olympics
 
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indune1,

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Fuel prices

Smog

Oppressive regime

Not allowed to be demonstratively proud of your country and athletes at Olympic events.

Makes one wonder what the heck made the Olympic committee choose Beijing as the decision has only brought negative commentary and detracted from the "Games".

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Mashimaro,

China 23/07/2008 01:13:12
Indune: What rubbish. Who says you can't be open in support of your athletes?
Actually it's none of these factors. What it is is a screw up in issuing visas and tickets.
But it's never been about the money for China anyway.
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23/07/2008 01:40:46
Of course not
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indune1,

Canada 23/07/2008 01:41:31

Mashi - or should I say Mushy- check your facts, Last week the Chinese Olympic committee released codes of conduct and behaviour/

Amongst which were:

Babies would not be allowed at events if they were to deemed to be loud and crying.

Overt displays of nationalist support ie - flags, sign-boards, face-painting ect were not allowed.

Anything remotely political - disallowed.


AS for an oppressive regime - huuullllllooo?

As to smog - hullllloooo?


As to high fuel prices - as in air travel - huullloooo?


I suggest you check your facts before you call someone's posting rubbish. ALso try to adopt a less pedantic, condescending tone and strive to be informed.

Your posting is as soft and insipid as your marchmallow moniker.
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Guga II,

Rockall 23/07/2008 03:03:02
Good, it looks like a lot of people will be boycotting the Gangster Olympics; not only for the reasons mentioned by #5, but also for the Gangster Chinese government's oppression and genocide of the Tibetans and the Uighirs.

Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit) can try to put any kind of spin on it he wants, but obviously a lot of people are telling them to spin on it.

Boycott the Gangster Olympics.

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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 23/07/2008 05:22:07
Imagine putting in all that effort and money to host the Olympics and then making it difficult for people to get visas!!!!!
Obviously not about spectators for the chines Government.
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The Daleks,

Longmen 23/07/2008 06:57:19
As #8 says, the dictatorship in Beijing didn't really think it through.

This is a very Chinese approach to all matters. Have an idea, put the wheels in motion, don't bother working out the details in advance, then muddle through in the most difficult and least logical fashion.

As for visiting Beijing itself, don't bother. It's a huge, extremely polluted, modern city with very little to see or do once you've had a look at the (rebuilt) Forbidden City and the (rebuilt) Great Wall. The bar district is small, seedy, and haunted by prostitutes and drug dealers. English is not widely spoken or understood in the service sector outwith the big expensive hotels.

If you have the urge to go to the Far East, visit any one of the countries surrounding China. They are much nicer, much less polluted, have preserved more of their historical buildings, and you will not meet any of the overt racism that you will encounter in China.
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The Daleks,

Longmen 23/07/2008 07:36:24
#11

Only in terms of what that particular country does to your soul!!
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Boy Wonder,

23/07/2008 07:38:11
I bet Guga has a huge grin plastered on his face today. I know I have!

Boycott the China Olympics!
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Dukov Norfolk,

The Palace 23/07/2008 07:51:30
These people who advocate boycotting the Beijing games are probably your football hooligans at the weekend.

Beijing wouldn't welcome them anyway.
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Jung,

23/07/2008 07:52:19
Now this is really good news!

Clearly many people are NOT prepared to show support for the Thugs who govern China by attending their cynical stunt.

#5 is quite correct. How dare the Thugs tell foreign athletes and their supporters not to display their nationality in Beijing!

I for one hope that the whole charade comes tumbling down as the games unfold. The games should never have been allowed to be staged in this Gangsters' Republic.
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Anglofile,

23/07/2008 08:52:13
The regime and their past reputations are coming back to haunt them. For me, they fully deserve it. They will probably end up threatening their own people and have them filling up the seats to make the stadiums look full.
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Longdirk Maceth,

NZ 23/07/2008 08:52:24
Why can we post about this and not the head line.
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"Glasgow East: High risk for Salmond as he fronts bid to trigger 'earthquake'"
Does the Scotsman not want nasty Nats writing about Labour getting a kicking?
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23/07/2008 08:59:22
#18 Longdirk.......correct in your assumption
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Findlay Thompson,

23/07/2008 10:14:26
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"Exterminate"

You have a valid point; because China is run by a handful of people lines can on occasion get crossed.

Limiting access to the country because of a so-called terrorist threat and imposing the solution as visa restrictions is a classic example of the left not knowing what the rights' doing.

A medieval state attempting to land itself in the free world 21st century, we shall see in due course what the Olympic Games can do for China & the rest of the world.
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Neil,

Glasgow 23/07/2008 11:07:54
What are the London Olympics going to cost. Is it about £12 billion. If they don't get in a lot more people that would be about £24,000 per tourist. They would probably have to spend about £100,000 each for the net cost to the country to rach break even.
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Tim C,

Southern England 23/07/2008 11:22:40
Terrorism isn't just about bombs, it is also demonstrating that the leaders are afraid. Remember how thousands of police rushed North to Scotland to protect the PM shortly before the July 2005 attacks in London? I don't suppose there will be any need to mess up the Beijing Olympics, because the Chinese Government is already terrified of Islam. And democracy. And human rights. And the internet. And losing power. And death.

(I hope the Games go well, and I am not criticising the Chinese people)
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Mashimaro,

China 23/07/2008 11:49:22
You obviousy don't understand the Chinese way of working. And oh gosh, it works a heck of a lot harder than you fat *sses sitting around collecting welfare and breeding like rats.
Postmark is right. The Games will go ahead. People will watch it on telly and whether or not they do, we don't care, we got the broadcasting rights.
Yes the spare seats will be filled by workers and clubs and students because at the end of the day there's one thing you can't take away from China. Our people are proud of our country. Unlike you people who sit around all day and whine about how bad you have it.
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Mashimaro,

China 23/07/2008 11:49:52
No face painting? YOu have to be kidding me. In the practice events it was almost mandatory.
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23/07/2008 11:59:31
#27 bang out of order to compare scots nationalism with the chinese regieme
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/07/2008 12:02:24
22 Horrible Cankers

Good morning, again.

I think you meant the "Oriental" race - or as I call them "ornamental".

Just what planet is Mashimaro from. That entity speaks rubbish passing itself off as considered thought. I have rarely encountered such vacuity in "thinking".

BOYCOTT THE BEIJING OLYMPICS!
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danbob,

23/07/2008 13:03:54
Drug cheating will be taken to new and unimaginable heights next month, watch out for counterfeit gold medals where the string falls off as soon as it's placed around the winners neck. Having said that holding the next world cup in Joburg SA is a strange decision. It will be like holding a feast in a bear pit.
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Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 13:06:35
The fact is , these will probably be the biggest, best,
most spectacular and clean Olyimpics in modern history.

They have already told their own athletic federations
that they will not tolerate any Chinese participant failing a drugs test. You can bet your bottom yuan that they will be after the drug cheats from around the world, especially of course the Americans, to highlight the hypocrasy attached to these games.

As for pollution, I saw the BBC carry out air quality tests in Bejing , in the middle of the day. Guess what? they were well within acceptable limits,as laid down by the olyimpic Orginisation,thanks to the precautions the goverment had taken. Much much cleaner, than say, LA.

Finally, Americans should watch what they say concerning China. If they had suddenly stopped lending you more and more money, your economy would have probably completely collapsed by now. They also hold the biggest foreign reserves of us dollars. Keep insulting them and they might just start selling them off, finishing you off once and for all.

It is no longer 1955. You don't rule the world, they DO.
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Dukov Norfolk,

The Palace 23/07/2008 13:16:50
It is evident the clowns who advocate boycotting the Beijing Olympics wish to punish the ENTIRE Chinese population by making the games a failure.

The average Chinese is looking to the games as a recognition of their acceptance in the world.

Why do you wish to punish ALL Chinese who have worked their guts out to welcome, even people like you? Are you all stupid, thick or retarded?

Are you blind to your own country's sins of which there are too many to list here?

Do you believe the 2012 LONDON Olympics should be boycotted for the British government's activities in the slave trade, their illegal invasion of Iraq, their appalling treatment of India etc etc etc etc etc etc ?
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Dukov Norfolk,

The Palace 23/07/2008 13:20:13
Keep posting you advocates of boycott, show the world how stupid you really are. Morons.
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danbob,

23/07/2008 13:26:30
The true Chineese style now starting to show through. A few advocate boycotts which is their right, and the insults start. A leopard cannot change it's spots.
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Dukov Norfolk,

The Palace 23/07/2008 13:27:02
Horrible Cankers - Get an education! Look to your own country's failings of which there are many more than China's.

People with your attitude drag down the reputation of humanity.
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Dukov Norfolk,

The Palace 23/07/2008 13:29:05
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"A few advocate boycotts"

Idiot. That's where the insults originate.
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Dukov Norfolk,

The Palace 23/07/2008 13:44:26
Horrible Cankers

"they are far more free than the hard working peasant labourer that only knows a life of hard grind in return for a mere existance..."

...and you, an evident racist bigot want to punish them for that.

Get a life. How do you think China would be if they were to have as many children as you claim you could have?

You are not only a racist bigot, you are stupid too.
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Let's have the truth,

23/07/2008 13:58:14
#58

"I do not wish to punish any ordinary chinese citizen"

...Then wake up to reality because that's exactly what you are doing.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 23/07/2008 14:09:14
From the BBC:

IS CHINA READY FOR THE OLYMPICS?

Tips on behaviour

"About 8,000 workers will be responsible for keeping Beijing's notoriously smelly public toilets clean and well stocked with soap and paper.
Foreign athletes, dignitaries and spectators will see a much smarter, cleaner Beijing when they arrive for the start of the games on 8 August.
Beijing officials have also been working hard to prepare the public for what is probably the biggest international event ever held in China.
Slogans, posters and information sheets have been put up across the city, telling people how to behave.
There have been numerous campaigns to get rid of habits foreign visitors might find unsavoury - spitting being the most obvious example.
Many people, including central Beijing resident Wang Kuiying, agree with the campaigns.
"We need to be civilised, welcome the Olympics and develop a good attitude. Everyone is clear about this," said the 70-year-old".

If only the Chinese Communist trolls on this site would heed the words of Wang Kuiying.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/07/2008 14:12:33
#63

"If only the Chinese Communist trolls on this site would heed the words of Wang Kuiying".

You should have a wee word with your friend Horrible Cankers about civility.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/07/2008 14:14:24
#63

"Slogans, posters and information sheets have been put up across the city, telling people how to behave".

...They wouldn't be out of place in the streets of Glasgow or some other of your salubrious cities.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 23/07/2008 14:16:33
#64 Let's have the truth,Queensland - You have the problem; you deal with it.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 23/07/2008 14:20:44
#65 Let's have the truth,Queensland - "They wouldn't be out of place in the streets of Glasgow or some other of your salubrious cities" - Might also be an idea for rough parts of the former penal colony where you live.
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Findlay Thompson,

23/07/2008 14:43:26
#38

What connection do you have with the peoples' republic of China.
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Findlay Thompson,

23/07/2008 15:00:34
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It is unnecessary to learn either Mandarin or Cantonese out with the boundaries of the people’s republic of China. The 1st global language is English so your first point was accurate.

A good friend of mine who happens to own & run a very busy restaurant, cooking excellent food to recipes that originate in the Far East was the person whom introduced me to the way Chinese people talk.

Incidentally he’s 2nd generation from tuen mun, xianggang. Is that anywhere near China?
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/07/2008 22:11:14
China is a notoriously filthy country, beset by smog, water pollution, and citizens that spit, cough, urinate and defecate in public, etc.

I have been to Beijing twice and will NOT endure the "mysterious East" EVER again.

That country is a blight on the well-being, environmetally, of our entire planet and the sooner they smarten up and clean up their act the better.

One DAY after the Olympics they will be back to their disgusting ways.

BOYCOTT THE BEIJING OLYMPICS!

Apparently, sane people are by not reserving rooms at hotels and guesthouses and fleeing to the pristine climes of Canada.

Mashimaro is STILL an idiot.
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Mashimaro,

China 24/07/2008 02:01:10
#80 I guess that puts a whole lot of Asia out of the running for the Olympics then. And now you can understand why authorities are cracking down and forcing those people to act in a more hygienic way. In that respect this is will be hugely good for China as it will continue after the Olympics.
There are indeed reasons for people to boycott the Games, but oddly enough I don't see any westerners latching on to THOSE. I would think animal cruelty would be first and foremost amongst the equestrian community but they don't seem too worried about that. That being said, China has gone way beyond many other countries in our preparation and that has fostered a huge rise in national pride for Chinese, as has the constant lying battering in western media. Even overseas Chinese have been offended and the world at large is more sympathetic to China's cause. Overall as a PR exercise it has be a resounding success. THe show will go on, no matter what you whiners say. We're China, and we're proud of it.
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song jiang,

24/07/2008 03:47:42
about the rules for spectators:
yes, there are many don'ts. has anyone thought why?
to ensure that those who come from abroad don't feel alienated, bullied,....
banning banners, flags, facepaints, etc, is targeted at the Chinese spectators, who will certianly overwhelm other nationals in number.
Without the incidents in the torch relay in London and Paris, the Chinese wouldn't be so nationalistic. they know that there are different bunches of people who hate China and are trying everything to sabotage the Games. it would be a great opportunity for the Chinese to demonstrate their love for the country and for the Games. too bad that the government has made all these rules.

we are happy with what we have, not only for the Games.
see: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/22/asia/poll.php

the torch relay is going on. you may not believe that local residents are crazy about it. one example:
a few thousand vedors follow the torch relay from city to city, selling mini national flags, "I love China" T-shirts, and other ornamenal objects for the occasion. they are making a few thousand yuan (more than 300 dollars) each day.

The ordinary Chinese people love the Games.
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Queensland 24/07/2008 04:32:41
#62 Horrible Cankers

"incidentally I thoroughly object to the label 'retard'".

...Well, I'm absolutely sure that the ordinary Chinese will thoroughly object to your misguided and undeserved hateful posts.

Your weak objection to the label "retard" by claiming that it is disrespectful to the mentally disabled is fatuous and hypocritical in the extreme as it is aimed at you personally and not at anyone else.

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Mashimaro,

China 24/07/2008 05:49:29
Need we say more?
A report carried by London-based The Times on July 18 saying two monks in a temple in Garze, a Tibetan-inhabited region in southwest China's Sichuan Province, were shot dead by armed police was fabricated, an anonymous Chinese official has said.
The comment was given by an unnamed authority with the information office of the Sichuan Provincial Government.Investigations showed there has been no clash between monks and the armed police on July 12 in temples throughout the Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture of Garze, said the official.Two monks at Gonchen Monastery in Derge county did die that day in a house blast in the monastery, but not being killed by armed police after they were in dispute with the officials, as the British newspaper reported in an article entitled "Chinese impose blackout over new Tibetan monk deaths". The source of information for the report carried by The Times was said to be given by three anonymous Tibetans. The report even described the incident as the first case in recent times of "lethal use of gunfire against Tibetan protesters demanding...independence". The official described the details about the truth behind the death of the two monks. A house in the northern part of Gonchen Monastery exploded at midday July 12 when six monks were having lunch on the first floor. Three monks escaped, but the others were buried. Two later died of severe injuries. The identities of the dead are not immediately known. The collapse was caused by an explosion of black powder kept in the house. And explosion was caused as a short circuit in a worn-out electrical wire produced sparks, which ignited black powder stored there. It was also disclosed that the temple had broken safety rules in storing 716 kg of black powder. This was used periodically in Buddhist rituals. The two monks were buried on July 16. Following the blast, the temple transferred its remaining black powder and 29 guns used for Buddhist rituals to the county explosive war
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James Donald,

Newbridge 24/07/2008 08:24:18
#81 Mashimaro,Red China - "We're China, and we're proud of it" - No you are not, you are a single apologist for an oppresive regime. As to being proud, me ne frego is all I can say.
Here is what the BBC thinks of your ruling (and only) party:
"The Chinese Communist Party's 73-million membership makes it the biggest political party in the world. Its tight organisation and ruthlessness help explain why it is also still in power.
It is unrepresentative of China as a whole. Only 20% of members are women, 77% are over 35 years old and 31% have a college degree. It is also obsessive about control, regularly showing itself capable of great brutality in suppressing dissent or any challenge to its authority.
Joining the party brings significant privileges, which explains why membership continues to rise. Members get access to better information, their children get better schooling, and many jobs are only open to members.
Most significantly in China, where personal relationships are often more important than ability, members get to network with decision-makers influencing their careers, lives or businesses".
Not really something to be proud of but then you will be a member of the party.

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Mashimaro,

China 24/07/2008 10:35:09
Jimmy D, actually I'm not a member of the party. I find them too far off the path of the real ideal of communism for my taste.
There is plenty to be proud of in China, mate. I won't bore you with the details. But really, wake up and smell the tea.
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song jiang,

China 24/07/2008 10:57:05
#85:
"Members get access to better information, their children get better schooling, and many jobs are only open to members.
Most significantly in China, where personal relationships are often more important than ability, members get to network with decision-makers influencing their careers, lives or businesses".
these are hearsay, totally groundless. did you get them from the BBC?
BBC, in 1989, was thanked by Chinese students for giving them news and reports to the happenings in China. Ask Chinese students now about the BBC, they will say: it is a big liar.
CCP membership is not a big deal. not many people care about it. of course you believe what you hear from the BBC, or even worse, the CNN. You have no way to find out the truths. but I know it, as I live in China and have worked in a university for more than 20 years.

Do you believe that the economy can grow by 10% annually for more than 10 years in a row in a society in which "personal relationships are often more important than ability"?

brainwashed. by the BBC. hopeless.
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The Daleks,

Longmen 24/07/2008 11:06:33
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You're not actually Chinese either, mate!!
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 24/07/2008 11:07:53
#86 Horrible Cankers

....If you can't take it you shouldn't give it. There is nothing worse than an individual racked with hypocrisy.
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Mashimaro,

China 24/07/2008 12:54:56
#88 Ha ha ha ha Song Jiang you just show the frogs in the well.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 24/07/2008 13:54:45
#87 Mashimaro,Red China - "I find them too far off the path of the real ideal of communism for my taste" - If you say so. Usually the path of Communism leads to a pit full of corpses.
"There is plenty to be proud of in China, mate. I won't bore you with the details" - Thanks.

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James Donald,

Newbridge 24/07/2008 14:19:09
#88 song jiang,Red China - here is a link to the blog of a BBC journalist in the Workers' paradise:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/jamesreynolds/
If you think he is lying or brainwashing anyone, you can leave comments or contact him via the BBC (you have to register first so best check with your local Commissar before hand).
"Do you believe that the economy can grow by 10% annually for more than 10 years in a row in a society in which "personal relationships are often more important than ability"?" - Certainly - these things used to happen in the Soviet Union too when Stalin was cracking the whip. It is much easier to achieve 10% economic growth when the starting point is so low. Look how low your GDP is compared to the West.


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James Donald,

Newbridge 24/07/2008 14:36:03
From the BBC:

"Beijingers told to mind their manners"
"Beijing citizens have been told not to pick their noses, yawn or scratch their heads when talking to foreigners during the Olympics.
They have also been given a list of things not to ask overseas visitors - a list so exhaustive it could make conversation difficult".
Think they will still be able to talk about the weather as long as they have a smile on their Chevys.
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Fanling,

Switzerland 29/07/2008 00:59:18
#74 Findlay Thompson
"... he’s 2nd generation from tuen mun, xianggang. Is that anywhere near China?"

Your question to #38 is a blank as his post has been removed, so I'm unaware of the context. Obviously your good friend didn't enlighten you. Tuen Mun is indeed in Xianggang (Mandarin for Hong Kong). It's a town in the New Territories of HK, about 20 minutes away from the border of mainland China at Shenzhen. In fact some 15 mins away from a place called Fanling.

This thread is positively toxic. Usual irrational bawling anti-China culprits predominate. Depressing.


 

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