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Published Date: 23 February 2008
SERBS protesting against the independence of Kosovo attacked United Nations police with stones and glass bottles yesterday at a key bridge in the north of the former province.
Some 5,000 demonstrators waved Serbian flags and chanted "Kosovo is ours" in a fifth day of protests since Kosovo's ethnic Albanian leaders declared independence.

The Kosovska Mitrovica bridge over the Ibar river – which divides Kosovo Serbs from ethnic Albanians – has long been a focus for tensions.

Dragan Deletic, a Serbian government official, told the crowd at the bridge: "Kosovo is Serbia and we will never surrender, despite blackmail by the European Union."

Boris Tadic, the pro-western president of Serbia, demanded an end to nationalist rioting after attacks on the American and other embassies in Belgrade. One person died and more than 150 people were injured during unrest on Thursday night.

"I most sharply condemn the violence, looting and arson," Mr Tadic said. "Nobody can justify what happened yesterday."

A video of two young women looting during the rioting has become a surprise hit on the YouTube website.

The giggling pair loaded up with chocolates, designer bags, shoes and clothes from vandalised stores.







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  • Last Updated: 22 February 2008 10:24 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Guga II,

Rockall 23/02/2008 01:31:22
Have the Serbs not been the cause of enough death and bloodshed over the past nearly one hundred years? The Greater Serbian Reich is not going to happen; its time they learned to live with that fact.
2

Tom in Belmont,

Belmont 23/02/2008 02:24:37
If Kosovo is so "holy" to the Serbs, why have they been slowly abandoning it for over a hundred years? How the deuce can any people expect to hold on to lands it refuses to occupy and populate? The Kosovar Albanians (descendants of the Illyrian peoples who gave Rome some of its best soldiers and emperors, and whom the ancestors of the Serbs displaced 1000 years ago) are now the majority of the province. If they want to leave, other than outright massacre, what does Belgrade propose to do about it? Break their own shaky economy in a vain attempt to hold on police it?
3

Princip,

Edinburgh 23/02/2008 03:57:00
Guga & Tom #2,

Oh dear what fantasy worlds you must live in to each come up with such folly as "Serbian Reich" and "Albanians are Illyrian peoples who gave Rome some of its best soliders & emporers" respectively!

The truth is that what the US and 'few' EU are doing is completely against the UN SC Resolution 1244 that they formulated and signed upto on 10th June 1999 - when they did so they "reaffirmed" the sovereignty of what is now the Republic of Serbia post the illegal war waged against Serbia and post any flawed spin for this illegal war - supposedly the Serbs were commiting genocide which was just as much a spin as WMD was for the illegal Iraq war!

"The hole in NATO’s logic was large enough for the proverbial truck. One may prefer a nation in which religion or ethnicity plays no role in the political organization of society beyond the private identities of individual citizens. Fair enough; I prefer such a nation myself. But to first say that countries shouldn’t be organized along ethnic lines, and then demand self-government for one group within a nation on the sole basis of ethnicity, is an exercise in self-contradiction.
Yet, this was what NATO had demanded from the Serbs of Yugoslavia for Kosovo’s ethnic Albanians at Rambouillet, in the form of autonomy or independence. It was this that was eventually backed up by NATO’s campaign in the Kosovo intervention. And autonomy in its highest form — secession — is what Kosovo declared this week.
Sorry, this wasn’t rejecting a society organized along ethnic lines. This was endorsing one ethnic group at the expense of another. It was saying that Albanians may use their ethnic majority in Kosovo to assert their political identity, but Serbs in Yugoslavia may not.
So NATO’s war aim wasn’t even multiculturalism (questionable as such a goal may be, especially if imposed at the point of cruise missiles) but ethnic separatism, the very opposite of the declared ideal of Clinton and Co. This is what Hitler forc
4

Princip,

Edinburgh 23/02/2008 03:57:55
Contd.
Clinton and Co. This is what Hitler forced on Czechoslovakia at Munich, using the ethnic nationalism of the Sudeten Germans to dismantle a sovereign state.
At least the Nazis were ethnic nationalists. What they did was logical in their terms. What possible logic compelled multicultural democracies to wage a war for Kosovo’s secession? "
http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=110865&sc=73

Oh what a tangled web we weave...
5

Tom in Belmont,

Belmont 23/02/2008 05:09:37
#4
Since you seem by your call name to be a Serb nationalist, I'll speak slow:
I made a pragmatic, not a moral or historical argument. The Balkans have had more tenants than a cheap hotel in Las Vegas, but who did what to whom is not my issue. The Kosovars are a majority in Kosovo. You can't change that, you can't make them Serbs and you can't force them to accept Serbian supremacy if they do not want to. Either you will have to kill them, breaking your economy and losing any shred of respect anybody but Big Brother Russia gives you or you will find a graceful way out of this. You can't go back.
When my country debated independence from Britain debate raged on both sides of the Atlantic (and about 20% of Americans, the so-called Tories, fought for the Crown), but in the end the Crown was forced to concede a point made by Edmund Burke, no matter what the colonial charters might say about permanent loyalty: "I know no way of drawing up an indictment against an entire people".
6

mk-ultra,

Edinburgh 23/02/2008 06:23:46
Why are the UK and the USA assisting politicians like Hashim Thaci, the former leader of the KLA who are known to have been involved with organised crime (drugs and prostitution) and with Islamic terrorist organisations like Al Qaeda ?

"Some members of the Kosovo Liberation Army [headed by the current Kosovo Prime minister Hashim Thaci] , which has financed its war effort through the sale of heroin, were trained in terrorist camps run by international fugitive Osama bin Laden -- who is wanted in the 1998 bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 224 persons, including 12 Americans.
The KLA members, embraced by the Clinton administration in NATO's 41-day bombing campaign to bring Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to the bargaining table, were trained in secret camps in Afghanistan, Bosnia-Herzegovina and elsewhere, according to newly obtained intelligence reports.
The reports also show that the KLA has enlisted Islamic terrorists -- members of the Mujahideen --as soldiers in its ongoing conflict against Serbia, and that many already have been smuggled into Kosovo to join the fight. "
(Washington Times, May 4th 1999)

7

Beca,

Sydney 23/02/2008 07:00:22
To Tom in Belmont

"you can't make them Serbs and you can't force them to accept Serbian supremacy "

The Serbs did not ask the Albanians to 'become Serbs' or accept 'Serbian supremacy'. The Serbs merely wanted the Albanians to accept and respect Serbian law and culture, after all they were living in Serbia. So what your saying is if the asian immigrants, for example, in England don't like English law or culture, they have the right to break away and form their own institutions and mini states?

And dont forget that the Albanians in Kosovo always resorted to violence in order to achieve their goals. Attacks on Serbian targets were daily occurences, and this was happening years before the world even knew Kosovo existed.That might answer your first question as to why Serbs have been slowly abandoning Kosovo. It was a slow and gradual ethnic cleansing
8

james 1st,

hamilton 23/02/2008 08:48:56
russia should back the serbs ,who should hold onto their own territory, that includes kosovo
9

Neil,

Glasgow 23/02/2008 10:43:18
Tom you must know that across about half of Kosovo the non-Albanians were a majority befor NATO entered & began ethnic cleansing. Unless you believe in ethnic cleansing & you claim not to, then you cannot accept that area going to the openly genocidal KLA.You could make a case for giving the other bit to Albania, so long as you are publicly on record as saying that Republika Srpska has the same right, as does Krajina that you wish to see NATO bombing Washinton to get them to hand San Diego to Mexico.

Even that would, obviously, require the support of the sovereign power since under international law, the UN Charter, the Helsinki Treaty & the Kosovo occupetion agreement it is impossible for any remotely honest politician to serve in any western government who "takes any action against the territorial integrity or unity" of Serbia. As you will have seen every government minister who was not a wholly corrupt Nazi resigned from Brown's cabinet a few days ago.
10

Gaz Disha,

23/02/2008 11:13:57
Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Yes indeed.
You got yourselves in a very tangled web of lies with no way out any where in the near future.
As for the rest of us everything is perfectly clear; Kosova is free and nothing the Serbians say or do can change that.
God bless DARDANIA!
God bless USA!


11

Neil,

Glasgow 23/02/2008 11:42:47
Presumably, if it were a different site you would be calling on God to bless bin Laden since his support for your openly genocidal KLA Nazis matched that of the CIA.

Gaz if you have any evidence whatsoever of Serbs lying perhaps you can give it. Indeed if you have any evidence whatsoever of you murdering racist child raping pimps ever telling the truth perhaps you could give it.
12

bluerose799,

USA 23/02/2008 13:43:19
More than four IIIyrian Entities compose Albania.
LABEATS, TAULANTS, ALBANS, ENKELEIS, DARASETS and KAONS.
All of them speaks Illyrian language but with different dialects. Three first has a very distinct Illyrian dialect named GEGE and the rest has another Illyrian dialect named TOSKE.
On 1912 they united in one single state and agreed to be named Eagle’s Land. SHQIPERIA.
The foreign “SKOLARS” named Albania based on the name of only one of the Entities.
This was not only Ignorance but also a big mistake of these “very educated Scholars“.
The situation then was so critical for SHQIPETARET, so they accepted any injustice and compromise. This was the big price they pay to gain the independence. Of course many other Illyrian entities was ignored. This has been done in purpose to use Illyrian territories as a trade merchandise to please slavics, which in return were used in two wars. The Slavics paid their price. They lost 56 million people 1908 – 1946. Illyrian paid bigger price. They were spread over 5 different states.
It's about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova (Dardania) to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito's Yugoslavia & Milloshevic's Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. They speak ilirian language with the dialect GEGE. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD. They have always been a minority and 'the story' of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethn
13

bluerose799,

USA 23/02/2008 13:48:10
by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. Now Kosova should be Free!
To find the answer for the question “do you think Kosovo’s independence will strengthen separatist movements elsewhere”, please refer to:
http://www.acesofww2.com/germany/aces/Hartmann.htm
Erich Hartman – top ace of all the time. German Luftwaffe Bf 109 Pilot.
Near the end of WWII, in early May 1945, Hartmann, then Gruppenkommandeur of famous Jagdgeschwader 52, and his Commodore, Hermann Graf, ground crew, family members, and other civilians, who had joined the squadron, seeking protection approaching Russian army, moved west in direction of territory already occupied by US troops. On May 8th, 1945, the soldiers and civilians surrendered to US troops in the region between Bavaria (German province) and Czech border. But on May 17th, the US Army delivered all of these German troops and civilians to the Red Army. How did the Russian troops treat the civilians? They tortured, raped German woman, children at least 12 years old. Some woman were shot after the rapes. Others were not so lucky. A twelve year old girl whose mother had been raped and shoot being raped by several solders. She died from these acts soon afterward. Then more Russian came, and it began all over again. During the night, entire German families committed suicide with men killing their wives and daughters, then themselves. This is the way the slavics treat the human been, the innocent civilians. This is the way the Serbs treated innocent Croatian, Bosnian and Dardanian civilians. If any entity of human been will be treated like that, then they are in title to ask and gain the independence.
14

Gaz Disha,

23/02/2008 13:53:39

Well, I’ll let you presume what you like on your tangled web of lies and forged myths.
That’s what you are left with now you bloodthirsty savages.
You can hang around Dardania’s borders like a lost pack of hyenas. You can sneer and spill all the venom you like.
But that’s as far as you’ll ever get.
God bless DARDANIA!
God bless USA!
P.S
Anyone interested on the Kosovo issue, get a copy of “KOSOVO, A SHORT HISTORY” by Noel Malcolm.
15

Neil,

Glasgow 23/02/2008 14:45:59
So "Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethn "

Well the local Jewish community didn't hate the Serbs - indeed they have some rather unfriendly things to say about NATO officers driving up with the KLA & watching as the KLA shoot people down to enforce ethnic cleansing.

http://www.tenc.net/interviews/ceda.htm

Obviously not the sort of thing that gets mentioned by our media. Though they would if they had evidence of it in Sudan.

It seems you still have't come up with a single instance of you genocidal Nazi pimps telling the truth.
16

kill bin ladin,

23/02/2008 14:51:50
http://www.savage-productions.com/beheading-serbs.html
Peaceful albanians
17

kill bin ladin,

23/02/2008 14:58:43
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=E17DC7F7-9723-4D24-BDE8-576309200B96
In support of Neil
18

bluerose799,

USA 23/02/2008 15:03:50
Serbia is the Spearhead of a Slavic Aggression that Slowly but Surely Trend to Move toward the West.
19

Neil,

Glasgow 23/02/2008 16:00:12
18 ? Any particular planet you are on? One of the points about aggression is that the aggressor is supposed to be encroching on the victim. Have you the remotest idea what your country has been doing?

16 Thanks bin. Putting up a link to that central photo got me barred by "Labour's #1 blogger" a pro-Nazi Labour councillor (aren't they all) a few days ago.
http://kerroncross.blogspot.com/
It is pretty disgusting & I would have some sympathy with not showing it if our media had not faked so many pictures & video purporting to show Serb misdeads. In most, perhaps all, cases they proved to be either faked (like ITN's "accidentally" faked concentration camp video) or unverifyable.

Also if those keenest to censor it hadn't bombed & murdered to assist in such atrocities. You may not know it but one of the 3 in that phote is now serving as a NATO appointed "policeman".
20

kill bin ladin,

24/02/2008 15:09:58
Neil thank you on telling the truth, which is very hard to come by in the west these days. Now most western media remind me of former Soviet propagandists.
21

Neil,

Glasgow 24/02/2008 17:58:29
Thank you. Whatever the propagandism we now have the internet & it does allow us to know far more than governments & media want us to.

This is my blog where I have much more on the same lines http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/
22

oder,

Scotland 24/02/2008 23:56:05
the UK with the EU gave the assurance that they would not support the break up of Serbia, they have now gone back on that promise, why now should the Serbs believe
a single word the west says? whatever the agreement concerning Kosovo it should have included the Serbs, this is their territory ,and no-one has the right to break it up! no one likes to be stab in the back!

Perfidious Albion!

 

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