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Published Date: 24 November 2008
THOUSANDS of Icelanders have demonstrated in Reykjavik to demand the resignation of Prime Minister Geir Haarde and Central Bank governor David Oddsson, for failing to stop the country's financial meltdown.
It was the latest in a series of protests in the capital since October's banking collapse crippled the island's economy. At least five people were injured and Hordur Torfason, a well-known singer in Iceland and the main organiser of the protests, sa
id the protests would continue until the government stepped down.

As crowds gathered in the drizzle before the Althing, the Icelandic parliament, on Saturday, Mr Torfason said: "They don't have our trust and they are no longer legitimate."

The value of the Icelandic krona has been cut in half since January.

Four Nordic countries, as well as the International Monetary Fund (IMF), have pledged to lend the country a combined $4.6 billion to help revive its deflated economy. The loan would be the first by the IMF to a Western nation since 1976.

One young man climbed on to the balcony of the Althing building, where the president appears upon inauguration and on Iceland's national day, and hung a banner reading: "Iceland for Sale: $2,100,000,000" – the amount of the loan the country is getting from the IMF.

A separate group of 200-300 people gathered in front of the city's main police station, throwing eggs and demanding the release of a young protester being held there.

Police in riot gear used pepper spray to drive back an attempt to free the protester during which several windows at the police station were shattered. The pro-tester was later released after his fine was paid.

As daylight began to wane, demonstrators drifted away into the nearby coffee shops. Here, as currency tumbles, the price of a cup of coffee has shot up by about one-third since before the crisis struck.

The demonstrators accuse the government – elected last year – of not doing enough to regulate the banking industry and have called for early elections.

Iceland's next election is not required until 2011.

Opposition parties tabled a no-confidence motion in the government on Friday over its handling of the crisis, but the motion carries little chance of toppling the ruling coalition which has a solid parliamentary majority.

Gudrun Jonsdottir, a 36-year-old office worker, said: "I've just had enough of this whole thing. I don't trust the government, I don't trust the banks, I don't trust the political parties, and I don't trust the IMF.

"We had a good country and they ruined it."


BACKGROUND

ICELAND'S three biggest banks – Kaupthing, Landsbanki and Glitnir – collapsed under the weight of billions of dollars of debts accumulated in an aggressive overseas expansion, shattering the country's currency. Iceland's government seized control of all three institutions in early October.

This week, the North Atlantic island nation, which has a population of only 320,000, secured a package of more than US$10 billion (about £6.7 billion) in loans from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and several European countries to help it rebuild its shattered financial system.

Despite the intervention, however, Iceland still faces a sharp economic slowdown and surging job losses while at least one-third of Icelanders are also at risk of losing their homes and life savings.

Geir Haarde, the Icelandic prime minister, has promised that the government will use the IMF money to bring back a flexible interest rate scheme and rewrite financial laws, particularly legislation relating to insolvency.

Iceland was the first country to ask the IMF for help as the turmoil in the credit markets in October hit home.

The UK government used anti-terrorism legislation to freeze money deposited by UK savers in Icelandic banks in order to ensure that their money was protected.



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  • Last Updated: 23 November 2008 9:45 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Credit Crunch
 
1

Forward not Back,

24/11/2008 01:24:14
Assuming the UK gets up off its collective fat behind, this scenario will be replayed at Westminster in a couple of years time.
2

subrosa,

24/11/2008 02:56:48
# 1

If not long before.
3

Finlang,

France 24/11/2008 04:33:29
Tip of a bigger iceberg, I reckon. Are you listening, Brown, Darling? Icelanders are not stupid. Neither are Scots. But the pair of you are fakeys.
4

Guga II,

Rockall 24/11/2008 07:46:21
It'll take a lot more by way of job losses and repossessions to overcome the lethargy in the YUK; and before people finally wake up to the total incompetence and mismanagement of the saviour of the world, the Quisling Maggie Broon, and his New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party.
5

Mcsnagpile,

24/11/2008 08:47:45

The problems were all too obvious a long time ago and not a squeak from anyone—a lot more than the government is to blame. The Icelanders traded debt finances many times there capacity to cover now it has gone pear shaped they complain their scone was stolen.
If you go to the Casino be ready to loose your shirt-- and do not bet with money you do not have.
6

JayJay,

Right here 24/11/2008 09:14:12
I have been wondering what the tipping point might be in the UK before people take to the streets. Over the weekend, with news of thousands more redundancies in the pipeline, the Sunday papers were filled with stories that had me reaching for the burning torch. Bonuses for the clever people in London running the Treasury and the FSA; the news that those in the private sector in Scotland now contribute £300m more into state pensions than to their own; the continued projection of Gordon Brown as a genius; the madcap notion from Darling than the best way out of this recession is to spend more.
Perhaps people are just too lazy to be bothered with the pending bankruptcy of UK plc. Perhaps the likes of the X-Factor and Dancing on Ice are of far more pressing interest than the huge wave of redundancies engulfing all but those working for the Government. Who knows, but were I a well armed foreign dictator, I suspect the UK is there for the taking....it would just be too much like hard work to have a care when Saturday night telly is so good.
7

Corsair,

24/11/2008 10:16:12
Much more interesting would be to know from where did the money come which started it all so suddenly and who brought it, and where did it go, and in whose bags, before it all ended - certainly not from fishing? Small wonder people lived beyond their means.

While most everyone in Iceland appears to have lost someone must also have won. Who?
8

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/11/2008 11:16:00
Maybe we should be doing the same in Westminster.

But no. The British are too lilly-livered, weak and stupid to dare to contradict the fools who have destroyed the country and removed all their freedoms.
9

bluehead,

edinburgh 24/11/2008 11:52:55
that is a sign of things to come ,people are sick of one failed goverment after another,the present labour lot must be the worst in the history of this country.
10

Siroos,

UK 24/11/2008 14:10:48
Brown & his Darling may be a little slow to react, but in truth they got the Bull by the horn at last.
It will be a little choppy for the next two years or so, but a weak £ is good news for the Exports.
I would like to have seen them reduce the fuel duty in summer. It would have helped.
The Iclelandic scenario would have been possible under Cameron.
11

Brian Haroldsson,

Reykjavík 24/11/2008 15:02:37
Utter hyperbole Ómar. Where you there at all (varstu þarna eða hvað?) The Althingi or parliament was hardly "besieged" and compared to the local Hearts/Hibs derby it would hardly justify even being called a stramash...

At least we Icelanders can still legally meet outside our parliament and protest in large groups. Have you seen the legislation in the UK? "Unlawful assembly" mean anything to you?

We are hardly revolting, in both senses of the word!

Áfram Ísland and Alba gu brath...

12

Taz,

The Land of the Free. 24/11/2008 18:54:27
Since when did Scots have control over their economy and monetery system?
13

pen-dragon,

USA 24/11/2008 20:08:13
Corsair: The money didn't go ANYWHERE. It never existed in the first place. Its just like check kiting, you deposit $100 in one bank write a check against it for $100 and deposit it in another bank and then write a check against that and deposit it in the first bank. Now you have $200 dollars showing so you borrow against the $200 dollars before the checks catch up with each other and you've doubled your money. Now complicate this by a million times and keep it all moving and you can see how $100 could become a million without there being any REAL value added. Now if one of the jugglers drops the ball, the entire house of cards comes crashing down and when the dust clears $999,900 just evaporates because it never existed in the first place.
14

Artemis3388,

Watsontown, Pa USA 24/11/2008 20:29:31
I wonder how long it'll take the sheep in the US to get out from in front of their wide-screen TV's and hit the streets-I just read in Bloomberg that $7.7 TRILLION more is being handed out to undeserving corporations "ON THE BEHALF OF THE TAXPAYERS" (unbelievable, isn't it?). WE SHOULD ALREADY BE OUT THERE!!!
15

I should be studying,

Edinburgh 24/11/2008 20:57:26
#12 "Since when did Scots have control over their economy and monetary system?"

Tosh.
16

Pt_Barnum_Bank,

USA 24/11/2008 23:03:33
Props to the Icelanders for standing up to the their government and DEMANDING change. We Americans live in a police state where one doesn't dare demand a change. Constitution be damned.

At the very least, we should be at the door step of former Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozzilo and DEMAND by fire our taxpayer money back. Wake up. "High finance" wallstreet elite created this mess and are now somehow allowed to also "fix" it.

I have nothing but admiration for you Icelanders. We need people like you in OUR country.
17

Brian in MA,

25/11/2008 02:16:36
Pt Barnum, the reason no one cries here in the US is because many are still raking in the money. With all the volatility in the markets here it just means someone is winning while another is losing. It sounds as though many more have lost in Iceland.
18

SouthernGent,

25/11/2008 03:47:11
The voters of the US just voted in the party that set the foundation for this entire crisis, and you wonder why they don't hit the streets?

They are clueless, thats why.
19

hotstud,

london 25/11/2008 03:49:32
Fiat currency - It fails EVERY time it is tried.

Let politicians create money out of thin air... a good idea?

Hello???
20

mccordp,

Texas, USA 25/11/2008 04:04:10
PT Barnum, I'm embarrassed for you. You obviously have no idea what a police state is, nor do you really believe you live in one. If you actually thought you lived in a police state, you would not have posted what you did.

Thousands of people in the US actively demonstrate against the government every day. Millions seek and demand change.

Your ignorance is monumental, although I assume your ignorance is mostly attributable to age as I assume you're very young, very inexperienced, and know little history or political science.

In addition, if you're really serious about determining the root cause of the mortgage situation you need look no further than Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the other culprits in Congress who mandated lenders give loans to people who should never have been given loans. The root cause is the feel good economics and social engineering practiced by Congress.
21

jesse hatcher,

USA 25/11/2008 04:26:34
HOTSTUD is absolutely right and I'm a PO'd Yank.
22

Pt_Barnum_Bank,

USA 25/11/2008 05:17:00
mccordp - You assume I believe one party is more or less responsible than the other. Wrong. Both parties are bought and owned by corporate interests.

To me the term police state is a relative thing. Once you let them "tap your wires" because you are a law abiding citizen and take your shoes off at the airport while corporate ceo's and the rich elite walk directly from their limosine to their Gulfsteam without even a check of identification reeks of a tiered society. Weren't all the terrorists flying 1st class? Security and scrutiny is for the masses, not the elite.

I think it is you who are ignorant in believing your Republican representative has YOU in his best interest. It seems like you may be a product of our failing education system. By the way. You can replace Republican with Democrat and it works the same way. Guys like Angelo Mozillo owns them both. Our "leaders" in washington have sold us out.

These Icelanders are doing what our founding fathers would have done. The world needs more people like them.

-PT

Back on topic.
23

Pinkoslayer,

AZ, USA 25/11/2008 05:25:17
Artemis3388 have you been hearing your fellow citizens? I believe it's coming.
24

Corban Wells,

USA 25/11/2008 05:59:00
7 - Just a quick note, when things get this pear shaped, usually there isn't a winner. For instance, if one were to pay $500,000 for a house, and the housing market crashes and the person must sell the house for $300,000, who walks away with the $200,000? Nobody. This is the same in the stock market. If it goes down, and there weren't short sellers, everyone looses, and nobody wins. Not everything is a zero sum game unfortunately.
25

Corban Wells,

USA 25/11/2008 06:13:14
PT_BARNUM_BANK - There is a striking difference between being conservative and being liberal politically. Both claim to want the same end results, but their approaches to accomplishing their aims couldn't be more different. Individual politicians are all dirty to one degree or another, but in this instance (the Freddie/Fannie disaster) there were those who sounded the alarm years ago asking for change to avert the disaster we are currently experiencing. And there were those who were being bought by Fannie/Freddie to keep the status quo. It just turns out that this time the Dems were being bought and the GOP was sounding the alarm. I'm not a party loyalist, but I am conservative, and this time there is a clear party in the wrong and one in the right.

You sound a little too sceptical to take an honest look at things. Oh well, hopefully I'll raise my three children well enough to grow up and more than cancel out your vote. J/K :-)

Also, the politician who received the 2nd most donations from Fannie/Freddie is Barack Obama . . . and one of his economic advisers, unofficially of course, used to run Fannie Mae. This is scary enough to keep me up at night sometimes.
26

Freedom First and Last,

CT, USA 25/11/2008 09:45:26
This is the truth, DEMOCRAT US social policies caused this global problem through the mismanagement of Fannie and Freddie by forcing the loaning to people that could not pay. Laws were put into place allowing the packaging of these high risk loans with low risk loans and sale to foreign banks. It worked as bankers were making 40 percent for their investment as they were resold again and again.

Fed chairman Greenspan spoke of the problem years ago and warned of a meltdown. John McCain wrote legislation to tighten the lending laws but because DEMOCRAT Chris Dodd was heading the Senate banking committee the votes to pass were not there. The REPUBLICANS did not even bring the legislation to a vote knowing the outcome. HAD THE REPUBLICANS DONE SO EVERYTHING GOING ON COULD BE TRACED DIRECTLY TO THE DEMOCRATS. The Republicans including Bush were too weak to force the vote and did not take Greenspan or McCain seriously so they are partially at fault as well.

Europe bought these toxic mortgages and held them far longer than they should. American bankers knew they had to get rid of them so they held far less. For now the world is correcting itself as US global financial dominance reasserts itself resulting in a higher US Dollar temporarily. Even the US will enter a depression however in 2010 as the US treasury notes become due and no one will buy USD to cover them. Borrowing from the Chinese and Japanese to pay for US government spending happened under both Democrats and Republicans so the coming meltdown will be seen as the result of US policies giving the world the chance to snub the US and forget all the good it had done in the 20th century for the world. If you are a believer in the bible, the world will then be ready for the last global dictator.
27

Gini,

New York City 25/11/2008 11:36:23
Dear Jimmy Carter began all this will his belief that the poor should be able to own their own houses. Then ACLU, ACORN and a clever young attorney got involved, and along with Bill Clinton they forced the banks to stop the practice of 'red lining'. Then banks were forced to issue mortgages to those who normally would not qualify.

Now the day of reckoning is at hand and who do the people of the USA vote in as president but the clever attorney who is in a large part to blame for this whole mess!

But pie in the sky always sounds better than being responsible and living within ones means.

What fools we Americans have proved themselves to be!
28

Georgia Redneck,

Altanta, GA, USA 25/11/2008 14:08:30
Being an American, my math is not very good, but :

$10,000,000,000 bailout
/
320,000 Icelanders =
$31,250 bailout per Icelander.
Of course IMF loans will be repaid through inflation, bonds, and taxes costing $31,1250 per Icelander plus interest. Since what's being "bailed out" is the fat cat bankers, I suppose is heroic Icelanders are right for rioting. Coming soon to the UK and US...

29

golfersb,

USA 25/11/2008 14:09:23
Glad to see our Icelandic friends call out the true culprits...The central banks.

Truth is, here in the States, it's a big charade...I'm more aligned with Republicans, due to social policies, but both parties have sold us out. One has to consider the Fed's roll....leaving rates artificially low while the economy was white-hot as evidenced by property appreciation hitting 50% in major metro areas and flooding the country's money supply.

Now, the Fed just keeps creating money out of thin air for the "bailout" while the taxpayers foot the bill...with interest of course. Who wins? Just remember the Fed is a quasi-government entity, however unlike with FNMA their shares are privately held and are non-transferable. Look it up and see the shareholders for yourself then decide.
30

iceland-calling@this.is,

Iceland 25/11/2008 17:52:56
We, the People of the Republic of Iceland in this period of economic turmoil and near national bankruptcy, declare to the International Monetary Fund, to the Central Banks of all our neighbouring countries and to their respective governments, that it is not in the interest of the people of Iceland that our current government receive loans from anyone.

It is precisely because of corruption in government and severe mismanagement of economic and monetary policy, that Iceland is now in such a sad and shameful position. Since we believe that a more politically accountable and civilised government is now crucial in order to ensure an effective implementation of economic recovery and reconstruction, a change has to be made in government to restore trust and credibility, domestically as well as internationally.

We are working hard to press for early elections and are convinced that they will result in a new government followed by a new professional governance structure.

Until then,

Please do not deliver the money.


http://this.is/iceland-calling

31

BryanTim,

Tampa 25/11/2008 20:23:42
Now you know why many Western governments are working to disarm the citizens. Some of them know they may day get what's coming to them.
32

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26/11/2008 05:11:52
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33

MommaMia,

Dallas 26/11/2008 06:53:18
This didn't begin with Carter. It began long before our lifetime. But, things got serious when the Federal Reserve, a private,international, banking conglomerate was given power over our money. Loaning us our money and allowing us to pay it back 'with interest'. I believe the year was 1913 and I'm not so sure it was really ever ratified by Congress.

The grip on our lives became tighter when we allowed our govt to embroil us in an undeclared war in Vietnam, which essentially bankrupt us. Hence, Richard Nixon, "I am not a crook", hooked us up with Communist China and our spineless Congress embraced the Bretton Woods Act - our current 'fiat' money system. This Act was first proposed in 1945 and our Congress would not ratify it as it was UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

So, you all can blame Clinton (Slick Willie), G. Bush Sr. (A New World Order, the Cold War is Over), or whomever else you wish. But the criminals at large are just second to third generation.

Perhaps, we really would see change is all the people in the world stood up together and said, "ENOUGH". We won't fight your wars for you and kill one another, we won't use your monetary system, we won't put up with the corrupt globalist 'leaders' anymore. The people of the world could paralize these greedy crooks.

Time to stop being silent lambs waiting for the slaughter. We have only just begun to see what is in store for us.
34

drahcir,

pittsburgh, pa, usa 26/11/2008 15:22:26
i think this same rebellion against corruption and banker skeemers will spread across the globe once people wake up to how their being scammed !!! i see the same thing happening in the usa in the near future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWyQOh64Qy8

goldieshouse.piczo.com
35

The first Magi,

Canada 27/11/2008 00:06:35
It's true, you cannot pour new wine into old wineskins.
The truly wise will understand.

Fiat currency (debt based) has never worked because you cannot create wealth from debt. Asset money, on the other hand, was never user friendly in the past, but the problem was not the commodity. The problem was the logistics of said commodity, the inability to distribute it efficiently and the inability to "split it". This is exactly why the Bretton Woods agreement failed and the Nixon administration closed the gold convertability window. More currency meant needing more gold , solely because of the fixed peg. Gold worked. The peg didn't.

Enter the age of information with real time capabilities. Gold and currency can be equated in real time (which is why the peg had to go) so that we can reflect real time fundamentals in the currency-gold relationship ..... where gold weight can be the money and currency can be the measuring tool for the weight.
There are 100% gold backed digital currencies that model these characteristics on the basis of the law of weigts & measures.

It is not up to government to make these models more competitive and to make them a growth sector. It's up to the market, specifically from demand, from the bottom-up. We have been supply driven in a top-down hierarchical paradigm since the apple was shoved in our faces and all secular models followed suit in the wake of this "forging". Enough is enough. We must complete our responsibilities in the balancing act of power between supply & demand. The evil simply resides in the imbalance. There is no conspiracy.
There has been a historical problem of incapability. Real-time is the difference.
36

T13,

Oklahoma 27/11/2008 16:44:52
I agree,only a 100% gold backed currency will solve these problems.

http://www.mises.org/
37

Isonomia,

Lenzie 25/01/2009 23:26:02
If you don't like the government why not sign the petition for a general election!

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

 

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