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Published Date: 13 January 2009
BARACK Obama, the president-elect of the United States, is preparing to issue an order to close America's controversial military prison at Guantanamo Bay in his first week in office, his advisers said yesterday.
Although it is unlikely the detention facility in Cuba will be closed immediately,

Mr Obama could issue an executive order, which would start the process of deciding what to do with the estimated 250 al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects and potential witnesses being held there. Most of the prison's detainees have not been charged with a crime.

The Guantanamo directive would be one of a series of executive orders Mr Obama is planning to issue shortly after he takes office next week, according to two advisers.

They spoke on condition of anonymity as they had not been authorised to speak publicly about orders that have not been finalised. They said the executive order would direct the new administration to look at each of the cases of the Guantanamo detainees to see whether they could be released or if they should still be held, and if so where. Brooke Anderson, the spokeswoman for Mr Obama's transition team declined to comment.





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  • Last Updated: 13 January 2009 12:43 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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Jimmy Le Pie,

13/01/2009 01:06:54
Tony Blair could perform the closing ceremony when he goes to pick up his Warmongering Medal from Comrade Bush!
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 01:43:28
...and put them up at the British Embassy. What a plan! I think it could work. Lets do it.
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 03:16:33
@3


But I liked the idea of Gitmo at the Brit Embassy. It works for me. The criminals could learn proper English, and all that and become proper individuals. And, the penalty of having to eat Brit food would suffice as torture while being deprived of the American Philly Cheese Steak from up the street

And besides, we can't disappoint the lefties in Washington DC who luv these guys>
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Lynne,

13/01/2009 03:44:26
I still don't see anyone jumping up and down to take them!! It will probably be a while a large portion of Europe negates the idea of taking some of them.

I still think we should put them in a maximum security prison here here in the US.. where they dole out their own brand of justice.

With the way Obama is going.. trying to rid us of the our homeland security.. he is taking a big gamble with American lives. If we end up with another attack.. it will be something HE has to answer to. What we have in place has kept us safe for 7 years... he should think twice about changing it.


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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 13/01/2009 04:33:42
#5 Lynne

Yes, and Obama's election had people cheering all over the world. Both the liberal numpties (many of whom blog on this paper) and the terrorist crazies who know it will be easier to further their cause under the Democrats. (Remember Clinton?)

Tread carefully, Uncle Sam!!
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Casey J.,

US of A 13/01/2009 06:36:44
I say send em to Israel with all the other lunatics.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 13/01/2009 10:34:02
Clearly Lynne and Carolyn 1, think chaining people up in Guantanamo, indefinately, without trial, and torturing them to "admit" guilt is perfectly reasonable and acceptable, but hey wait a minute, isn't that what the Nazis used to do to anyone they didn't like the look of ?
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 13:24:21
Clamper,
You're even bad at lousy satire.

As for housing criminals where I live, a few miles from Ted Kennedy's compound, and across the bay from Princess Caroline, um... you know... and like I think a secret SEAL team is down the street, well you know, um...
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Scotsbloke,

Glasgow 13/01/2009 13:33:22
Here is a novel idea.
They should fly them all in a jumbo, circle over Gaza for a few hours and tip off Hammas that it is Bush's farewell tour.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 13/01/2009 15:26:59
15# You're very good at avoiding the truth.
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Number 6,

Germany 13/01/2009 15:49:23
First tentative steps on the way back into the world community. That's it America, Left now the right.

As for these poor men, they should be compensated and returned home. This garbage about them not being able to return because of fear of torture is pathetic.
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Sandi,

San Diego 13/01/2009 16:28:33
In my opinion, Guantanamo should never have been used as a prison, and it was used in that way to circumvent US laws. I hope it will close as soon as possible, but it is a huge problem now figuring out what to do with the inmates.

Many did nothing wrong and were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Many were sold by warlords to the US and ended up in Gitmo. They also had done nothing wrong. The relatively small number who would be guilty of committing some crime or other should be tried in a regular court of law. Unfortunately, some of them have been tortured so much that they are not fit to stand trial, and in any case, nothing they may have said whilst being tortured can be used in any court of law. Sending them home isn't the answer. They risk torture and death just for having been in Gitmo. The warlords who sold people certainly don't want them running around telling everyone else what happened to them. Not to mention that being locked up in Gitmo for several years won't have made any of them big supporters of the US or anyone other than the terrorists we are fighting. We made these people into terrorists.

Resolving this is not easy, but it must be done.
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gordon'sboomhasbust,

glasgow 13/01/2009 18:11:06
#19 Number 6

There have been quite a few cases of detainees at gitmo attempting to avoid repatriation to their homeland for fear of torture.
Rafiq Alhami from Tunisia was the most recent.
See here
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/10/9/173929/321
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Lynne,

13/01/2009 18:37:59
Number6 Germany.. and what do you say about the at least 50 who had been released from Gitmo, yet showed up on another battlefield dead?

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Lynne,

13/01/2009 20:11:12
27.. don't be ridiculous.. if you want a name... go ask the Pentagon... they have been identified by DNA.. I'm sure they would be as willing to give the names to you, as they would be to me.

Hey, you might trying googling dead terrorists..

Why ask the impossible? And so far the number is 18 confirmed, and 43 having their DNA checked.
Try reading from other sources... it might keep you up to date.
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Taz,

The Land of the Free. 13/01/2009 20:21:38
I fail to see the problem? Get them in American prisons and let the Aryan Brotherhood and gang bangers take care of them.
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Taz,

The Land of the Free. 13/01/2009 20:31:15
Sandi, since when did POW's get released with the war still ongoing? There have indeed been mistakes made. However, most of them were taken under arms and out of uniform. Treat them as POW's and take the war criminals among them to the Hague.
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Taz,

The Land of the Free. 13/01/2009 20:48:11
Sandi, "Unfortunately, some of them have been tortured so much that they are not fit to stand trial"


This is also incorrect. In Abu Ghraib some were abused, stripped naked, and had dogs woof at them. In Gitmo some were water boarded. To be water boarded is part of a US Seal’s training. They all have it done to them It is not life threatening or painful, it’s more of a mind game. Any information obtained under torture is worthless anyway. A guy will say anything to make it stop. Torture per say has never been a part of our war on terror.
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gordon'sboomhasbust,

glasgow 13/01/2009 22:15:22
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There were 81 gitmo prisoners who had returned to the battlefield when I googled. Here are the ones from 2007 with their prison number. Some were killed and some recaptured.



92 Said Mohammed Alim Shah
203 Ravil Shafeyavich Gumarov
211 Ruslan Anatolivich Odijev
220 Abdallah Saleh Ali Al Ajmi
294 Mohammed Mizouz
297 Ibrahim Shafir Sen
363 Shai Jahn Ghafoor
587 Mohammed Yusif Yaqub
587 Ibrahim Bin Shakaran
633 Mohammed Nayim Farouq
674 Timur Ravilich Ishmurat
930 Mohammed Ismail
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Sandi,

San Diego 13/01/2009 22:40:23
#30,

The whole, entire point is that the Bush administration doesn't classify them as "POWs". The call them "enemy combatants". Had they called them POWs from the beginning, the prison at Gitmo would never have existed.

#31,

You are wrong, but live on happily in your small world.
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 14/01/2009 00:06:02
Will the Obama Administration also return to Americans some of the Civil Liberties and freedoms they enjoyed before 9/11??

No, I thought not.
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 14/01/2009 00:09:08
Will the Tories repeal some of the "Anti-Terror" laws passed by Blair % Brown, or will they also press ahead with the DNA Database and ID Cards??

Yes, I thought they would.
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 14/01/2009 00:10:41
Simple truth is that once a Government takes away a Civil Liberty, you NEVER get it back without a fight.
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