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US tourism video falls down over Niagara



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Published Date: 30 October 2007
AN EFFORT by the US government to persuade foreign tourists to come and enjoy the country's natural beauty has backfired slightly, after a promotional film made by Disney for the campaign annexed part of Canada.
The film, released last week by the departments of state and homeland security, highlights majestic American landscapes, from New England's colourful autumn foliage and the Grand Canyon to the Rocky Mountains and Hawaii's pounding surf.

Backed by
a soaring orchestral soundtrack, shots of those attractions are interspersed with the smiling images of people of all creeds and colours. The video, Welcome: Portraits of America, is to be played at select airports in the United States - starting at Dulles International Airport outside Washington DC, and George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston - and at US embassies abroad.

About four minutes into the seven-minute production, viewers are treated to the impressive sight and sound of water roaring over Niagara Falls before the scene shifts to the Lincoln Memorial in the capital.

In showing the natural wonder, Disney's filmmakers, however, chose the Horseshoe Falls, the only one of Niagara's three waterfalls to lie almost entirely on the Canadian side of the border separating western New York state from southern Ontario province.

Making matters worse, a visitor to the US would not even be able to get the same view of the falls in the video because the scene was shot from a vantage point in Canada, according to Paul Gromosiak, a Niagara Falls, New York, historian and author. "This is not the United States, this is 100 per cent Canada, shot from the Canadian side," Mr Gromosiak said after reviewing the video. "This is an insult."

Although brief, the appearance of the Horseshoe Falls in a US tourism promotion effort is likely to vex Canadians, who long have fought to distinguish themselves from their larger and more powerful neighbour to the south.

The political boundary is not marked with a line through the Niagara River that divides the two countries and connects Lake Erie to Lake Ontario. The distinction, however, is clear to most who have visited the falls looking for a picture postcard photo to take home.

But it seems to have escaped the notice of the producers and those at the US state department and homeland security department's customs and border protection agency who presumably vetted the video before endorsing it and posting it on their websites.

Karen Hughes, the undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, said in a posting to the department's blog that the production has the administration's blessing.

"This video clearly says, 'We want you to come to America; you will be most welcome'," she said.

Ms Hughes said she commissioned the work, which Disney shot and produced at no charge and donated, to overcome the pervasive post-11 September perception abroad that the US is hostile to foreigners. She said the video is to be given maximum exposure.

"We have already sent the video and associated posters to embassies and consular offices across the world, where it will greet aspiring visitors long before they arrive on our shores," Ms Hughes said.

"We're going to play it in waiting rooms and at embassy events - and we hope it will inspire many who otherwise might not have thought about travelling to America to come and see it for themselves," she wrote.

Or maybe Canada.

TROUBLED WATERS


CANADA and the United States have several serious territorial disputes.

• The Northwest Passage. The Canadian government considers it to be part of Canadian internal waters, but the US maintains it is an international strait or transit passage. The passage has recently become of the focus of greater attention as melting sea ice makes it more viable as a shipping route.

• Machias Seal Island. Located in the Gulf of Maine, about ten miles south-east of Cutler, Maine, and 12 miles south-west of Southwest Head, New Brunswick, by Grand Manan Island. It is currently controlled by Canada, but both countries covet the surrounding fishing grounds.

• Dixon Entrance. A strait between British Columbia and Alaska. About 50 miles long, it lies between the Clarence Strait in Alaska to the north, and the Hecate Strait into the Queen Charlotte Islands in BC to the south. The Dixon Entrance is the principal approach to the port of Prince Rupert, BC.

• The Beaufort Sea. Canada and the US disagree over who has sovereignty over a chunk of this northern sea between Yukon and Alaska. It's what's under the water that has the interest of both sides: oil and gas.



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1

Aoda,

Pennsylvania Wilds 30/10/2007 01:50:14

This is stupid. I read this in my local paper and couldn't beleive it. Everyone knows that Horseshoe Falls is in Canada.

There is no excuse for this but if you look at the Canadian side and the American side they you would know why they chose Horseshoe Falls.

The other places, it is the first I heard about them but I will say that we will be hearing a lot of that in the future and not only between Canada and The United States.

2

Guga II,

Rockall 30/10/2007 01:52:02

Yankee imperialists.

3

'Suck' - McCrunchie,

the eighth 30/10/2007 02:25:58

They will have to invade Canada now as a video has been discovered showing they own part already.

4

Gandalf the Great,

Slayer of Orcs 30/10/2007 02:45:39

It didn't take long for comrade guga to spew his anti-american rhetoric...I wonder how much longer it will take for the rest of the mediocre, untalented, under-achieving left to blame President Bush for this faux pas?

5

'Suck' - McCrunchie,

the eighth 30/10/2007 03:29:41

4. Gandalf the Great

Do you really think bush has ever heard of Niagara, and even if he had, would be able to say it?

6

Michaela,

Canada 30/10/2007 03:31:04

Let's negotiate .... Horseshoe Falls for Hawaii!

7

Michaela,

Canada 30/10/2007 03:41:18

And a yellow Hummer ... for me.

8

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I'm no really here,

30/10/2007 04:22:55

I think Canada to the US is like Scotland to England. It is just another US state with funny people living there, isn't it?

10

Boy Wonder,

30/10/2007 08:00:41

Canada ... or as Homer Simpson calls it ... America Junior! :)

Expect Mr Wingate to come on and have a wee rant later. I'm certainly looking forward to it! :)

11

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 30/10/2007 08:28:05

"Canadians... have fought to distinguish themselves from their larger and more powerful neighbour to the south. "

Emm, actually, Canada is LARGER than the USA in terms of area...

12

49th State,

in bed, fast asleep 30/10/2007 09:01:42

Canada Area (Total): 9,984,670 SQ KM

United States — Area (Total): 9,826,630 SQ KM

#11

It's a close call, but I think the writer probably ment "more powerful," rather than "bigger."

13

Cartmen,

Dubai 30/10/2007 09:07:21

49th State - Arnold was considered by many to be the best general and most accomplished leader in the Continental Army. In fact, without Arnold's earlier contributions to the American cause, the American Revolution might well have been lost . His many successful campaigns included the Capture of Fort Ticonderoga (1775), the Invasion of Canada (1775), victory at the Battle of Valcour Island on Lake Champlain in 1776, the battles of Danbury and Ridgefield in Connecticut (after which he was promoted to Major General), and the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. Continental Congress generally adopted Arnold's plan for the invasion of Canada, but Arnold was not included in the command structure for the effort . The planned invasion was a disaster for the Continental army & it was easy to blame Arnold for that , in the same way other people took credit for his plans & achievements.
To cut a long story short there was only one thing this man hated more than Brit’s & that was the French , so when the French joined in he wanted out.

14

Number 6,

Searching for the hadrian wall Blue-Prints. 30/10/2007 09:48:39

#8 "We almost took all of Canada during the raid on Quebec". Go to a rare book store in the US. If your lucky, you may find an Atlas. get a stranger to show you how to navigate it. Find Canada then tell us all how taking Quebec would have landed you the whole of Canada. Your interpretations of history are always fascinating. Pure drivel but fascinating.

15

Cartmen,

Dubai 30/10/2007 09:56:03

Don't forget to look up the bit where the Canadian force crossed the border & torched the first White House as a warning. FYI the General who lead that force has his statue on the Canadian side of the Niagra Falls.

16

AJ of Fife,

30/10/2007 11:53:03

49th State,

Do you realise you're sleeptyping?

17

Guga II,

Rockall 30/10/2007 12:30:04

#4 You really are a comic book character.

18

Conway,

East lothian 30/10/2007 12:50:50

"Although brief, the appearance of the Horseshoe Falls in a US tourism promotion effort is likely to vex Canadians, who long have fought to distinguish themselves from their larger and more powerful neighbour to the south. "
I beg to differ as much as I love the Americans the USA isnt as large as Canada and as for being more powerful well..........................

19

williamx,

Delta, Canada 30/10/2007 12:57:15

We thank the Americans for their generosity in providing free advertising for the Canadian side of Niagara Falls. I wonder what tourists are going to say when they find themselves restricted to the less beautiful American side.
Perhaps American Taxi drivers will benefit from the mistake just like London taxi drivers will benefit from the Scottish charities contribution to the London Olympic Games.

20

Vivian,

USA 30/10/2007 13:44:53

Horseshoe falls is more scenic than the American side, so I agree that whoever made the film shouldn't have used the Canadian side to promote US travel.

As for Canada being bigger than the US, yes it is, but most of it is home for nothing but animals and forest.

21

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 30/10/2007 14:30:51

Boy Wonder

As you so fervently desire, here is my "rant", as you so graciously call anything I post to these forums. Since you LUST over my words so assiduosly here they are.

The "Horseshoe Falls" on the Canadian side are infinitely more photogenic than the American falls which are REALLY disappointing.

They are just a pile of rubble half-way up the cliff- face of the falls and nothing to write home about or photograph.

As for your reference to "rants", you should talk. jennifer had to take you to task and call you "hysterical" in a diatribe you screamed at all of us concerning a newsitem on Prince Philip.

So..... since you lusted after my words so much, here they are. And don't let them launch you into yet another frothing at the mouth outburst which only puts into question your abilities to discuss matters dispassionately with certain posters - but then, you have had a "go" at many posters and you are PROUD of it and your self-proclaimed boast of being cantankerous and unpleasant.

I will not comment on your self-assessment but your own words speak volumes.

22

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 14:46:01

You mean that national agencies promoting tourism give false and misleading information?

How come I've never seen a tourist advertisement for Scotland, England or Ireland that shows it raining?

23

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 14:52:26

#22 - TimW1234

> "They are just a pile of rubble half-way up the cliff- face of the falls and nothing to write home about or photograph."

They are both beautiful and really little different, there are enough pictures available on the internet to see for yourselves.

You can proclaim that one or the other is superior depending upon national pride, but that's really what you're talking.

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Boy Wonder,

30/10/2007 15:04:32

See Timbo ... that's where I get ticked off with you. You don't come across as person with much of a sense of humour. Parasitic "royal family" apart, we actually agree on a lot of things. You just have no sense of humour and come across as a pompous windbag. Lighten up, calm down and stop accusing everyone of being arrogant towards you. Try and be level-handed and I'm sure we'll all get on SO much better.

As for Nigara ... I love all of the scenery. Canada and the US share a wonderful border of sheer magnificence that's hard to beat.

Oh and btw ... there's two "u"s in "assiduously"! Take care now. :))

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Boy Wonder,

30/10/2007 15:15:08

... and there's THREE "A"s in Niagara, Boy Wonder, you twit!!! :((

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Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 15:28:34

Why has 'The Scotsman' chosen to run this as a headline in the 'International' section'?

While I certainly enjoyed the article, recognize the foolishness of the photographers and laugh at it, I don't see it as indicative as Americans as a whole - but it's hard to deny that it is one aspect of it, if not the main one.

'The Scotsman' has a poll in the 'International' section too, - Have Scotland's Halloween traditions become too Americanised?

* Yes - 86%
* No - 14%

Are articles like these a tool to strike back against 'Americanization' ?

27

AJ of Fife,

30/10/2007 15:41:01

TCW,

You're awright in ma book pal!

28

49th State,

in command and about to hit the road 30/10/2007 16:01:05

13. and 14.

Cartmen, Dubai

All you say is true. But let's not forget that Arnold planned the Quebec Raid and that it was a total disaster - and he wasn't there.

But worst of all, Arnold was a traitor and was called one in every land he visited. Even his wharehouses in Canada were burnt down. No one likes a traitor.

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49th State,

in command and about to hit the road 30/10/2007 16:03:28

#15

Those "Canadians" were called the "British" back in those days (Union Jack flag and all) by the Americans. Anyway, The British paid for the doings at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814 when Old Hickory kick their arses out of here for good.

30

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 17:00:20

The 'Fenian' invasion of Canada was an ill-conceived attack to beat the British and use Canada to ransom a free Ireland in return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_Brotherhood

Originally dismissing the idea, an 'invasion' (and I use the term loosely) happened, so President Grant then ordered them to return. That's about it.

The US is lucky to have a friend like Canada. There should be no resentment either way. For proof, find a map of the Allied invasion at Normandy. Look to the east of the US landing zones, you'll find Canadians.

I've worked with Canadian International Incident Management Teams based out of Ontario, they are among the most professional and competent firefighters I've ever met.

This is just an effort to inflame differences. I'm surprised you guys swallowed it.

31

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 30/10/2007 17:47:41

#27 Boy Wonder

I CANNOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!!!

You show uncharacteristic humility in criticising yourself. Keep up the good work. You have plenty to work with.

And who needs spellcheck when we have jennifer?

32

57Nomad,

california 30/10/2007 17:59:04

the banter between Canadians and Americans is natural. the proof is in the test, not the mouth. here is what we know for sure. canadians are decent, polite, and good-hearted people. The fact that we trade insults is no indicator of bedrock feelings. I particularly enjoy referring to them as icicleheads.

I would caution anyone, however, from underestimating how tough these guys are. The fact that their primary claim to international supremacy is in the field of Advanced and Innovative Igloo Engineering is in no way a slur.

The rocky and barren countryside of Afghanistan is strewn with the bodies of taliban knuckeheads who didn't know that the amazing Canadian snipers were in the vicinity attests to their battle worthiness. We share a two thousand mile border with them, about 99% of which is unguarded and unmonitored. If we had to pick one nation on the face of the earth to share this border with, it would be the icicleheads. We like them a lot.

33

Boy Wonder,

30/10/2007 18:20:36

#33. No more than you, Timbo ... no more than you! Now repeat this mantra after me ...

AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ... AYAMA NERSANA WAN ASKELP ...

:)))

34

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 18:24:43

#34 - Nomad

That sense of humor works both ways, too. ;)

When our Canadian Incident Management Teams provided their section of the Incident Briefings during the fires in Montana a few years back, their Fire Weather Forecaster had a great time with us Californians. It was common to see items like:

Predicted High - 25
Predicted Low - 12
This is hot for Canadians, coats will be available in the Supply Section for Californians.

Californians will be issued the standard igloos, not the air-conditioned ones.

You get the idea.

35

57Nomad,

california 30/10/2007 18:42:16

Yes, and it is much appreciated. The Canadians are some tough, tough studs and fun to kid around with. Minor cultural differences, we've got the Rose Parade, they've got Tundra Day and Lichen Harvest Festival, mean little in the overall scheme of things.

36

Masque,

30/10/2007 19:20:57

(#22 #33) What a complete twonk you are, TCW. Every post you make shows you up.

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'Suck' - McCrunchie,

the eighth 30/10/2007 20:36:43

This is a link to americans being interviewed about Canada. In addition to punters on the street, they speak to state governors and Ivy League professors and students. So not your average 'dumb americans', or so you would hope...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLXRVvA6T9k

Some features are the Russian invasion of Saskatchewan, global warming melting the Canadian Parliamentary igloo, and attempting to prevent the culling of Canadian pensioners on ice flows.

How can a nation be so dumb about their neighbouring nation!

38

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 21:32:01

#39 - Suck

Ah, more 'YouTube irrefutable facts'. It must be true of they are on 'YouTube'! John Wayne movies are more factual than staged 'YouTube' videos.

Did you ever consider how many people they interview that give the correct answers - and somehow, don't show up on your 'YouTube' videos?

And even more shocking - have you considered that some these people are 'plants' and 'stooges' (people that intentionally look stupid as part of the 'YouTube' team)?

Also consider - "Ivy League Professors". Huh? You are shocked to find out that 'Ivy League Professors' know nothing?

Of course they don't - that's why they're generally Marxists!

Now, if you want to discuss how Americans have been failed by the social experimentation of their school systems instead of actual teaching over the last 30 years, you would be finally getting close to the WHY of what you are trying to convey.

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Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 21:55:23

Here are some more 'YouTube' videos outlining the important social issues of our time:

PUPPET RAPE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTsUsPSSdo&feature=dir

ENGLISH SAILOR POSESSED BY HIS FEINDISH FOOT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3gSIE2nt4Y

Ufo in Belgium chased by air force F16's!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5-Qh7HFGg

THEY CAN'T BE FAKE OR STAGED THEY ARE ON YOUTUBE.

40

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 22:28:33

How come you never forwarded this one, Guga?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6mkju5GNcw

41

Dáithí,

San Jose 30/10/2007 22:31:02

Excuse me, Suck.

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Wallace MacP,

Alberta, Canada 30/10/2007 22:59:00

#6 Michaela: Never mind trading the Horseshoe Falls, let's just give the Falls to the U.S. on the one condition that they take TimW as well!

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'Suck' - McCrunchie,

the eighth 31/10/2007 01:25:18

Dáithí

You seem to be going to lengths to discredit the clip, yet it is the easiest way to represent video in the forum.

Its from a Canadian TV programme on CBC (you know - that country to the north of most of america) presented by Rick Mercer, and called "Talking to americans"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Mercer

So the politicians were real...

Real stupid!

Mercer is also the reason bush will not speak to journalists from CBC.

So do you agree it was not fake?

Listing a few details...


persuading Americans to congratulate Canada on legalizing VCRs or adopting the twenty-four-hour day, (ex-Iowa governor Tom Vilsack was fooled by this one)

congratulating the Canadian government on building a dome over its "national igloo" (apparently a downsized version of the United States Capitol made out of ice) to protect it from global warming (one of the interview subjects so fooled was Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee

congratulating Canada for officially joining North America.

congratulating Canada on legalizing the stapler

congratulating Canadians on classifying Labrador Retrievers as elephants as to prevent them from being used for hard labour.

All quoted from here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_to_Americans

- - - - - - - - - - -

I am amazed you were unaware of this very popular TV programme.

Its quite entertaining - watch it again to see why your country's nationals are frequently seen as 'dumb americans'.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rick+mercer+t...

So, do you now accept the politicians shown were genuine americans?

Lastly, its j

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Dáithí,

San Jose 31/10/2007 05:15:37

#47 - Suck (">")

> You seem to be going to lengths to discredit the clip...

No lengths at all. Your video clip is merely a reply to Conan O'Brien's insult to Canadians in 2004.

Conan O'Brien is Irish (that's a large island just to the 'left' of you Scots. See if you can find it on a map) and a popular American late-night TV comedian. On a trip to Canada he went 'too far' with comedy.

I'm surprised you are unaware of this very popular TV programme.

Insulted, Canadians mistakenly took the 'Americans are stupid' (ie, what we call the 'trendy European leftist') track until Conan relented, and apologized.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/18/leisure.obrien.r...

Your 'Wikipedia' link (apparently you didnt' read it, but merely linked to it, assuming that it would give your position some sort of 'authority' - wrong again) it is clearly stated:

"It consisted of interviewing Americans on the street and convincing them to agree with ridiculous statements"

Ignoring the fact that the Americans that didn't answer 'properly' didn't make the 'cut', how did they go about convincing them? What method do they use to convince them?

- Having to watch Michael Moore's first movie - 'Canadian Bacon' (a box office flop, he later learned to pander to leftists to turn a profit) until they relent?

- Trying to identify the differences between Karl Marx and his brothers Groucho, Harpo and Chico?

- Trying to figure out why Europe is swallowing all the American culture they can get - you go about blaming US for it?

You complain about Abu Ghriab and then ignore the hideous torture that is involved with having a conversation with a trendy European leftist?

Heck, most of these people would have said anything to get away from them, myself included.

Comedy is something we Americans enjoy bec

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American,

USA 31/10/2007 18:53:56

I'd rather go to disney or vegas anyway.

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'Suck' - McCrunchie,

31/10/2007 22:07:58

47. Dáithí, San Jose

"No lengths at all. Your video clip is merely a reply to Conan O'Brien's insult to Canadians in 2004."

I must commend Mercer on his foresight in this "reply", given twin towers can be seen in the background during his programme. You may recall twin towers were destroyed as a result of american foreign policy on 11/9/2001.

While you state...

"I've pointed out before how important it is for you to actually read your links before posting them, this is another excellent example of your failings."

...and...

"It consisted of interviewing Americans on the street and convincing them to agree with ridiculous statements"

...but had you read the paragraph immediately beforehand...

"Talking To Americans was a regular feature presented by Rick Mercer on the Canadian political satire show This Hour Has 22 Minutes. It was later spun off into a one-hour special that aired on April 1, 2001 on CBC Television."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_to_Americans

Accordingly you are either a hypocrite for suggesting others should read their links, then claiming a series from 2001 was a response to one from 2004, while you post a link yourself, showing that to be false: or you a liar, aware of the details discrediting your own post, from the reference it cites.

So which are you, a liar or a hypocrite?

In further contradiction to your claim the programme was a reply to one from 2004 (all taken from your cited link)...

"The most famous segment, aired in 2000, featured Mercer asking then-presidential candidate George W. Bush – who had previously stated that "you can't stump me on world leaders"

"2001 special: The special was a co-production between Island Edge and Salter Street Films."

"Although the show received Gemini Awa

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01/11/2007 00:14:04
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'Suck' - McCrunchie,

the eighth 01/11/2007 01:17:57

53. Dáithí,

You got caught out lying, and posting crap.

Get over it!!

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'Suck' - McCrunchie,

the eighth 01/11/2007 14:54:30

Dáithí

It was quite funny though - your posting it took place after 2004, and twin towers standing there in the background.

Brilliant!!!

;-)

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02/11/2007 05:31:17
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