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Obama strengthens position after latest US primary elections



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BARACK Obama moved slightly closer to gaining the US Democratic Party's presidential nomination today with a convincing win in one of the last primary elections of the season.
The Illinois senator beat rival Hillary Clinton in North Carolina, with 56% of the vote to 42%, and also fought an extremely tight race in Indiana, where the former first lady clinched the win, 51% to 49%, earning a 22,000-vote margin of victory out of more than 1.2 million cast.

Mr Obama's strong performance in last night's key contests will expand his lead among the delegates who will choose the party's nominee in August and it makes a Clinton comeback increasingly unlikely. Media reports in America estimate Mr Obama won at least 94 delegates and Mrs Clinton at least 75 in the two states combined, with 18 delegates still to be awarded.

Whilst overall figures vary from different sources, one US broadcaster, MSNBC, has Mr Obama leading Mrs Clinton in the delegate count - 1,876 to 1,729. A total of 2,025 delegates are required to win the nomination but neither candidate is expected to garner enough delegates from the few remaining primaries to earn the bid before the national convention this summer.

Mrs Clinton, the senator from New York state, will stay in the race for now, but a number of US pundits predicted the end for her campaign was near.

In a patriotic speech in North Carolina, Mr Obama hailed his success as a victory over the "politics of division and the politics of distraction" and challenged perceptions that the prolonged battle between the two Democrats will damage the party's chances against Republican John McCain in November's general election.

He said many observers had suggested the party was divided, that Mrs Clinton's supporters would not back him, and that his supporters would not back her.

"I don't believe it," Mr Obama responded. "Yes, there have been bruised feelings on both sides. Yes, each side desperately wants their candidate to win."

But he said the election was about the American people and "whether we will have a president and a party that can lead us toward a brighter future".

Mr Obama also criticised Mr McCain's policies as "out of touch" with America's "core values" and said the Republican's plans were nothing more than "the failed policies of the past".

Last night's results will help Mr Obama persuade superdelegates that the controversy over his former pastor Rev Jeremiah Wright has not damaged his popularity and that he can win against Mr McCain in November's general election.

Mr Wright's assertion that Mr Obama secretly held his views, which include the claim that the US government invented the Aids virus, had seen Mr Obama's position weaken in the polls. Mr Obama recently branded Mr Wright's views as "divisive and destructive".
Hillary Clinton speaks to supporters in Indianapolis, Indiana, with her husband Bill Clinton and daughter Chelsea at her side. Picture: Joe Raedle/Getty
Hillary Clinton speaks to supporters in Indianapolis, Indiana, with her husband Bill Clinton and daughter Chelsea at her side. Picture: Joe Raedle/Getty

Over in Indiana, Mrs Clinton vowed to fight on, appealed for funds to keep her presidential aspirations alive, and continued her campaign to count the votes of Florida and Michigan after the states were stripped of their delegates for breaking party rules.

But there was one moment towards the end of her speech, when she thanked her family for their support, in which she seemed to suggest the end was near.

But she immediately went on: "These next primaries are another test.

"I'm going to work my heart out in West Virginia and Kentucky this month and I intend to win them in November in the general election."

Mrs Clinton referred to Mr Obama's April prediction that out of Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana, Indiana would be the "tie breaker" for the candidates.

"We've come from behind, we've broken the tie and thanks to you it's full speed on to the White House," she said.

Exit polls showed the economy was the top issue by far in both North Carolina and Indiana. They also showed Mr Obama won more than 90% of the African American vote in North Carolina, but he still struggled to win the support of white voters with no college degree, who are often key to the party's success.

The Democratic race now moves to West Virginia next Tuesday, where 28 delegates will be on offer, before contests in Oregon, Kentucky, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota conclude the primary season.

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  • Last Updated: 07 May 2008 9:20 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: US elections
 
1

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 07/05/2008 07:19:03
Prepare for yet another Republican administration. Who will be invaded this time?
2

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

07/05/2008 07:29:00
Obama will has won this battle but will lose the war.

If he thinks Clinton has been tough on him it is nothing compared to the attack dogs of Karl Rove and the GOP. There is more dirt on Obama still to come - mark my words. The Democrats are going to regret having their contest decide by non-Democrats.
3

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 07/05/2008 12:11:27
Obama wins in North Carolina by a wide margin. north carolina is one of the more populous states. Clinton wins in Indiana by a narrower margin.

Currently, both democrat candidates poll out at 10-point leads over McCain were it to come to that in November.

the democrats have set up a system to allow 'party leaders' to make the final selection. they ruled that Michigan & Florida (2 very major states) were somehow excluded from being included due to silly bickering over rules. and the democrats have made this 'superdelegate' system where many delegates are appointed, not elected. So party leaders can decide whether to count michigan & florida or not. I think in both those states maybe only hilary was on the ballot. and then they can manipulate the super delegates. In the end party leaders decide. Obama people will be very angry if party leaders take it from them. for they feel they have the best ability to get votes.
4

Goomba,

Ohio, US 07/05/2008 14:20:20
You know what? Even as a John McCain supporter I am very proud of Barack Obama because he has done something no one else has ever done: Defeated the Clinton Machine. Countless Republicans in Arkansas tried unsuccessfully. George Bush “41” couldn’t do it. Bob Dole fell short, too. Rick Lazio was clobbered by Hillary and so was her most recent New York Republican opponent who finished so far back I cannot even remember his name. Not even impeachment dulled the Clintons’ press-enhanced luster and Hillary’s march to the White House was deemed “inevitable” by the pundits as little as six months ago. I send my heartfelt congratulations and thanks to Senator Obama. One Clinton in the White House was too many -- and another is absolutely unthinkable.
5

Stefan,

NYC 07/05/2008 14:44:35
Answer to #1. Rockall
6

Dáithí,

San Jose 07/05/2008 15:04:22
#3 - Wally

>"Currently, both democrat candidates poll out at 10-point leads over McCain were it to come to that in November."

Not according to this current one:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107038/Gallup-Daily-Obama-48-Clinton-46-Democratic-Nomination.aspx

Wally, do you have a current poll that supports your statement?
7

steve's here,

Rockall 07/05/2008 15:05:03
Mind yer words Stefan, we'll defend oor island til oor last gunga bird has fallen and ye'll sill not find any oil there.
8

mike - across the pond,

wally 07/05/2008 15:15:07
what koolaid have you been drinkin pal?

please show me a single RECENT poll that backs up your 10% figure.... please skip the koolaid drinking whackadoo uber left sites (like CBS/NYTimes) where the sun rises and sets over BO... I care about what they say just as much as I care about the spoutings of Rush Limbaugh...

you dont like McCain... and thats fine... I'm not wild about him either... but IMHO he beats Huckabee... Guiliani and YOUR boy... Ron Paul.... and will most likely be the lucky benefactor of the "BO beatdown" in the fall...

Florida & Michigan pulled fat-head moves and the DNC cabal (how-wierd Dean) decided that they didnt matter... which will probably skewer them in the end... PSSSTTTT I TOLD YOU 6 months ago... that these were Hillaries "safety nets"... at the time I didnt think she'd need them... but yessir... when you count ALL the votes (especially Florida because BO was on the ballot there... and to a lesser extent Michigan) at the end of the day... Hillary leads BO in popular votes... and most probably will make that case at the convention.....

I dont see hillary taking the "vice" chair... it just doesnt fit with her... she despised alBore... despises Cheney... I think we all shrugged our shoulders at Quayle... its just not a job I think she aspires to... if BO wins in '08 being VP would completely marginalize her for '12 and by '16 she would be almost 70... and who knows who would be on the DNC scene by then...

Personally I see her fading to the background once Dean&alBore strongarm the "super-delegates"... the writing on the wall will be if she is given a significant speach opportunity at the convention (I doubt they will give her that opportunity)...

if BO loses in the fall, the DNC replaces Dean with a Clinton camp guy (either James Carville or Bill Clinton himself) in early 09... and hillary runs again in 12, and this time she doesnt treat the caucasses as "tea-parties"... and its a dog race
9

mike - across the pond,

wally - cont'd 07/05/2008 15:15:45
(no pun intended) lol...
10

Griffe,

07/05/2008 15:44:27
What will Hillary do next? If she wins the nomination will she give Brown lessons in survival?
11

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 07/05/2008 16:09:44
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/04/opinion/polls/main4069259.shtml

Here's that poll that Datey & Mike wanted. It shows Obama is more popular than Clinton easily among democrats & would beat McCain by 11 points. Thats the thing everyone can't ignore. Obama is able to get the votes. and if the 'party leaders' take it from him, then there will be anger.

Also remember that Hilary's victory in Indiana was narrow and aided by 2 factors. 1 - the state of Indiana purged 1 million voters from the rolls in the last 2 years, that was 1 in 5 they purged. these were mostly black people who would've voted for Obama. and 2 - That nut-case drug-addict talk show fellow named Rush Limbaugh was telling republicans to vote for hilary in the indiana democrat primary and some of them did this.
12

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

07/05/2008 16:10:39
#8 & #10 She'll become the next Senate Majority leader when reid resigns.
13

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 07/05/2008 16:29:55
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080502.html

Mike & Datey, since McCain's going to lose, I think you need an alternative candidate. Here is a new candidate - Chuck Baldwin. I think Chuck Baldwin is defeating Alan Keyes and will be the nominee of the Constitution Party.

14

Navvy,

07/05/2008 16:31:40
If you haven't ruled Clinton out before her stupid talk about reducing the price of gasoline fo automobiles (petrol for cars) should do it.

When will the USa and the Chelsea Tractor mob switch to smaller Cars?
15

Sandi,

San Diego 07/05/2008 16:42:47
Unfortunately, Obama is not more popular with Democrats. Many of his votes have come from the cross-over Republicans and "Democrats for a Day" (tm The Obama Campaign) that his campaign has encouraged to vote for him so he will be the nominee. Most of those people will not vote for him in November.

He won "big" in North Carolina, but not nearly as big as he was expecting to win. 40% of the Democratic voters in North Carolina are black and 90% of them voted for him. He also expected to win Indiana. 20-30% of Indiana is covered by the Chicago media market. Obama's mentor in the Illinois Senate shut down the Senate (and they missed voting on an important piece of Illinois legislation for this) so that the senators could go to Indiana and campaign for Obama. He spent three times as much money as Hillary Clinton in both states, and couldn't beat her in Indiana-also despite suspected Chicago-style tampering in Gary, Indiana. Even CNN has suspicions about why the results from Lake county were so late being announced when they had all been completed for several hours. I suppose they had to wait to find out how many votes Obama needed to win. They only announced when they finally did because the mayors of all the smaller towns forced the mayor of Gary, an Obama supporter, to release the tally.

It does look more likely that Obama will be the nominee, because the supers don't seem to have the spine to do their job and vote for the candidate more likely to win in November. More than 40% of Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama. He is not qualified or fit to be president.
16

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 07/05/2008 17:28:40
here's an article showing that George McGovern who had been a Clinton supporter is now an Obama supporter. He says Hilary has no chance to win the nomination and asks her to cease the campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080507/ap_on_el_pr/mcgovern_clinton

The other development is that Hilary Clinton is apparently a witch.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/03/you-cant-make-this-up/

Hilary selected a horse named 'Eight Belles' as her favorite in the Kentucky Derby race held on Saturday. You recall the Queen of England attended that event a year ago. Hilary said that Eight belles being a female was like her racing against the boys and enthusiastically picked Eight Belles as her favorite.

Eight Belles finished 2'nd in the race. Immediately after crossing the finish line it collapsed to the ground. Doctors found that it had 2 badly broken front legs. They gave the horse a shot and it died right on the track, the first horse they had to kill on the track in 41 years.

The nightmare scenario is if the 'party leaders' pull strings & push levers to make Hilary win the nomination despite the clear popular will among the democrat voters. because Hilary is a witch.
17

mike - across the pond,

wally... 07/05/2008 18:11:09
you're drinking the koolaid again....

CBS is in the tank for BO... you, who rail against "grand conspiracies" above all should be wary of polls like CBS/NYTIMES... their 10% is hollow, and BO will not win by that margin...

watch what the DNC is putting in the koolaid.... but I bet your teeth are white!!!!!

as far as hillary not maintaining support of long time allies... well... there is a certain "political expediency" to all this... BO is the inevitable DNC candidate... if he wins, you dont want to be on the "wrong" side of things... do you??

btw, citing a CBS/NYTimes poll and making arguments based on Rush Limbaugh after I tell you why that isnt valid... does that make you a DNC shill??? just asking...
18

Stefan,

NYC 07/05/2008 18:24:29
#7 Abort Mission! there's two of them! And they've got a Steve!
19

57Nomad,

07/05/2008 19:10:58
#6 Daithi

This is what you asked Wally:

"Wally, do you have a current poll that supports your statement?"

Yes, there is, or was, I should say, a link Wally provided for us to support his contention that steel didn't melt. As I recall it was:


http://thedailyplanetzork/science/?steel?/steelwhatthehellissteel/isthat thatidiotwallyagain.zk
20

Laurette,

Carlsbad, California 07/05/2008 20:36:03
#15 Sandi: The beneficiary of Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos was to be Hillary - not Barack Obama. From what I've read, it wasn't as successful as it was supposed to be. If Hillary by some chance becomes the nominee - I'll pass on voting for her. I can't quite see myself voting for her after screaming B***h at my TV, everytime she opens her mouth.
21

John Blackley,

Florida 07/05/2008 20:47:31
So now we've had another 1-all draw in The Election That Wouldn't End. Except now, with the delegate count that Obama has, the 'superdelegates' have an opportunity to put an end to the Democrats' misery by pledging for Obama and putting him 'over the top' in the delegate count.

Have they the inclination to do so (and, thereby, put off the Clinton supporters who will cry 'foul'?) I doubt it. They'd rather let The Election That Wouldn't End drag on and on, with each candidate slowly strangling the other as more and more accusations are flung, while Senator McCain goes swanning around the country and the world practicing to sound like a statesman.

Democrats: We can snatch failure from the jaws of victory - anywhere, anytime.
22

Silence of the Yams,

07/05/2008 21:53:14
The Obama fraud continues...
23

Rodger the Leith lodger,

edinburgh 08/05/2008 00:03:01
Just an intersting wee anecdote from a suburb of Edinburgh called 'leith'. A couple of texan residents at a local hotel told me that if Obama was elected he would be easilly assinated within six weeks because he was a nig*er. They were actually quite proud of this and convinced it would happen. Ahh the demon drink - - - or maybe not so?
24

Dáithí,

San Jose 08/05/2008 00:28:11
#23 - Rodger

>"A couple of texan residents at a local hotel told me that if Obama was elected he would be easilly assinated within six weeks because he was a nig*er."

Rodger - those guys called me and said to beware, because you were prone to inventing unflattering, pandering stereotypes.
25

truthsleuth,

08/05/2008 00:39:52
What struck me was the State Governor , a supporter of Obama, commenting on the Primaries claimed
'... the whites will only vote for whites and that is racist..
Then went onto say
'Obama has 96% of the black vote'

So there we have it

If blacks vote for a black that is democracy
If whites vote foe a white that is rascist.
26

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 08/05/2008 02:34:36
Mike in 17: no, I am not a shill for the democrats. and I did not know that CBS polls were biased for Obama, but I would not be surprised - thanks for the tip.

King Nimrod, I could not get your link to work.

27

Dáithí,

San Jose 08/05/2008 03:30:14
#26 - Wally

>"King Nimrod, I could not get your link to work."

Hahaha! Start REELING IN 57Nomad, you've got one on the line!
28

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08/05/2008 15:03:58
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
29

mike - across the pond,

balder... 08/05/2008 17:07:08
ever hung out with Jews?

they are a fascinating lot...

you ask why their economy bustles? try THIS one on for size

a dollar (or any local unit of currency) goes into a WASP economy... (or catholic, or whatever)... it circulates through the local economy 7 times... (steel worker gets his paycheck... buys coffee from the local merchant, who pays his employee, who hires a babysitter, who buys pizza, etc.... etc....) it goes around 7 times before it leaves the local economy... (somebody buys gas with it....)

in a JEWISH community... that number is 11... because instead of going to the "big box store"... they go to the jewish store and pay just a touch more... or maybe get a better deal because they are brought up to with the mantra "only a sucker pays sticker price".... this means that the Jewish community benefits 50% more over every dollar brought into their local community...

sadly in an african american community that number is FOUR times... this goes a LONG way towards explaining the urban blight that BO rails against...

and explains a LOT about why Jews seem to prosper...

dont hate the player... hate the game... or better yet cut your whining and GET IN THE GAME!!!!!
30

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 08/05/2008 17:19:38
Balder in 28 is correct. this whole campaign & election in America is just a show. I think an American man named Barnum used to use the phrase 'Greatest Show On Earth' to describe a circus that he marketed. that is how the American election is - it is a circus. and yet Americans & non-Americans put so much faith in it.

and I don't know why anyone would trust King Nimrod's economics lesson as he can't even cut & paste a simple url for us to use.
31

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 08/05/2008 17:21:35
sorry Mike in 29 - I was thinking that was King Nimrod's post that you did.
32

Dáithí,

San Jose 08/05/2008 17:35:38
#30 - Wally

>"and yet Americans & non-Americans put so much faith in it."

Wally, if Ron Paul was winning you would proclaim the American system as the greatest thing since foam on beer.

People that support extremist wackos are always critical of a system that marginalizes them.
33

mike - across the pond,

wally... 08/05/2008 20:00:50
lol sorry that economics lesson was an excerpt from 35+ years ago... when the internet was shiny and new... I think I had ONE teacher who had a good understanding of what ARPANET was back then... lol

I have no "links" for it....

at the time I thought it was a bunch of hooey... then I dated a Jewish girl for a couple years... and witnessed it first hand... its a LOT more believable when you see it in action....

I still cant get people to "drink the koolaid" on that one though... they're much more interested in "grand conspiracy theories"...
34

Djookers™,

Edinburgh F H 08/05/2008 20:38:59
30 Wally

Nutter
35

57Nomad,

california 08/05/2008 20:56:38
#27 D.

Daithi,

Re Wally at #26: Frankly, I'm at a loss for words. What can one say? I have to go compose myself.
36

CombatVet68,

New Babylon 08/05/2008 23:01:03
Personally, I am in favor of adding "NONE OF THE ABOVE" to the ballott. I would also make it uncumbent upon all factions that if the majority voted "NONE OF THE ABOVE" the candidates would be eliminated and new ones would be entered into the race for President, requiring the politically elite to start the whole process over!
37

Dáithí,

San Jose 09/05/2008 01:27:16
#35 - 57Nomad

>"Re Wally at #26: Frankly, I'm at a loss for words. What can one say? I have to go compose myself."

Hahaha! It's moments like this that makes all of this worthwhile!
38

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 10/05/2008 23:49:18
Datey & King Nimrod: you're both very silly. I was only joking with you about the url not loading in 26.

 

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