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Taking Prozac for depression is mostly a waste of time, say scientists



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Published Date: 26 February 2008
NEW-GENERATION antidepressants, such as Prozac and Seroxat, are largely a waste of time, research suggests.
A review of clinical trials found that they worked no better than a dummy pill for mildly depressed patients and for most people suffering severe depression.

Even trials suggesting that the drugs helped severely depressed people provided no eviden
ce of clear clinical benefit, the researchers said.

Dr Tim Kendall, the deputy director of the Royal College of Psychiatrists' research unit, said the findings were "fantastically important".

The researchers said: "Drug-placebo differences in antidepressant efficacy increase as a function of baseline severity, but are relatively small, even for severely depressed patients.

"The relationship between initial severity and antidepressant efficacy is attributable to decreased responsiveness to placebo among very severely depressed patients, rather than to increased responsiveness to medication."

The researchers said their study was one of the most thorough investigations into the efficacy of new-generation antidepressants, known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors .

The research looked at trials into drugs including antidepressants regularly prescribed in the UK, such as fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Efexor) and paroxetine (Seroxat).

The researchers concluded: "Using complete datasets (including unpublished data) and a substantially larger dataset of this type than has been previously reported, we find that the overall effect of new-generation antidepressant medications is below recommended criteria for clinical significance."

The paper, Initial Severity and Antidepressant Benefits: A Meta-Analysis of Data Submitted to the FDA, was published in the journal PLoS (Public Library of Science) Medicine.

Prof Kirsch said: "The difference in improvement between patients taking placebos and patients taking antidepressants is not very great.

"This means that depressed people can improve without chemical treatments.

"Given these results, there seems little reason to prescribe antidepressant medication to any but the most severely depressed patients, unless alternative treatments have failed to provide a benefit."

He said: "This study raises serious issues that need to be addressed surrounding drug licensing and how drug trial data is reported."

Dr Kendall echoed the view that the study was important because it looked at both unpublished and published trial data.

WHAT THE DATA SHOWED

EXPERTS analysed 47 clinical trials using data released in the US under freedom of information rules.

They looked at four common antidepressants and the clinical trials submitted to gain licensing approval. They found little evidence of benefit when analysing both unpublished and published data from the drug companies.

Seemingly good results for very severely depressed patients came from a decrease in the patient's response to the placebo, rather than any notable increase in their response to the drugs.



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  • Last Updated: 25 February 2008 11:45 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/02/2008 00:26:24
Hardly,,'NEW-GENERATION'

"Prozac and Seroxat, are largely a waste of time"

Is this not, something we all knew years ago,?
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/02/2008 00:30:21
The Health pages this week in the Scotsman News, have so far, been uninteresting, thus making this paper,
'Depressive'...:-))
3

Roberta Burns,

26/02/2008 01:06:46
2# I like to have a wee look through it just before I go to bed. I can then sleep knowing all is well with the world according to hootsmon. Now, where's my valium?
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/02/2008 01:44:10
Roberta Burns @#3,
You have a good sense of humour, no doubt we will meet again,
Now thats better than,...."antidepressants"..:-))
5

Robert,

Kirriemuir 26/02/2008 09:33:25
Which was exactly what my wife discovered except she was misdiagnosed as suffering from depression when the problem was later discovered to be hypothyroidism. The antidpressant medication made her feel worse which brought on depression when it became almost intolerable to live with her! She suffered at the hands of the medics for a number of years unnecessarily! It was through surfing the Internet that she discovered what ailed her. I hear the medics are now surfing the Net to improve their diagnostic skills and to keep abreast of their patient's increasing knowledge.
6

kazzy,

Edinburgh 26/02/2008 10:44:46
I have to disagree with previous comments. I was on Prozac for a while and I know one thing for certain it certainly saved my life. It's not going to work for everyone but it did for me.
7

Biker,

26/02/2008 10:49:59
Good for you Kazzy and the best of luck. Prozac when used as an aid can and does help. Sadly as reported above, much of the diagnosis is missplaced. Depression is an underestimated illness.
8

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/02/2008 11:28:57
Roberta Burns

Better than just a valium is a valium or two preceeded by a few wee drams or ten - or so I have been told.

I would NEVER do such a thing!
9

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/02/2008 12:19:28
Seeing as depression is mainly in the mind, it makes sense that drugs taken "only in the mind" treat it just as effectively as the real thing in most cases.
10

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 26/02/2008 13:20:56
9 alternative fuel head

Huh? What in the heck are you talking about? This new-age palaver is bewildering to me. Maybe I am missing something here.
11

Saoghal Beag,

26/02/2008 13:40:42
9 High octane, depression is not psychosomatic, it's very real and crippling. SSRIs may not always be the solution but they are an essential medical tool to aid recovery in many cases.
12

Methalions,

26/02/2008 15:14:23
8
TimW1234,
Ottawa, Canada 26/02/2008 11:28:57
Roberta Burns

"Better than just a valium is a valium or two preceeded by a few wee drams or ten - or so I have been told.

I would NEVER do such a thing!"


...except when posting....

;-)
13

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/02/2008 18:07:54
#11:

Yes. I know that the effects of depression can have far reaching effects.

In essence, depression itself is a state of mind. If you feel OK mentally, have a positive outlook and are basically content, then you are not depressed and will experience none of the symptoms of depression. Or are you trying to suggest that is not the case?

I know that there are severe cases that NEED to be treated with real drugs but isn't that what the doctors are saying too?
14

Exiled Leither,

27/02/2008 00:00:16
As a young man I suffered what some would call a mild nervous breakdown where I struggled to go college no matter how hard I tried I would go to walk through the door then find I had walked away. After a week or so I was scared to go back as Obviously I couldn't really explain where I had been and as the doctors were not interested I had no sick line. Eventually after a couple of months an older and wiser person said something which just seemed to make sense and since that day nothing gets me down for long and stress is short lived for a few moments or less, I have hippy levels of chill-lol.

he said, " Tomorrow in the east the sun will rise and at night in the west it will set again, and nothing you do, think or say in between will change that! so what is the point of worrying about it?"
Sounds daft but for me it worked.

Drugs can't sort your brain out just cover the problems.
15

TheTerminator,

27/02/2008 01:00:22
The "Pill Pushers " at the pharmaceutical companies won't like this report very much.
16

BOBANOVAC,

AUSTRALIA 27/02/2008 14:27:37
new report for prozac says prozac is only placebo it means it dont have any medical substance in it so it means it is vorth nothing to me its new report is nothing short of stupiditi every depresion sufferer decides for him self if it helps or not i am not going to stop taking LOVAN*20 for those who never heard for LOVAN*20 it is capsule it is PROZAC in diferent shape both made from FLUOXETINE i have been suffering large bow'el pain for long time and have all necesary ehamination found nothing wrong no disease doctor asced me if i was homosexual i told hem i am not true no lies he prescribed LOVAN*20 not realising it is prozac i take it for about one year my pain gone i stoped taling lovan for three nonths my pain in large bow'el come back so i was forced to take LOVAN again pain gone again so i take LOVAN regularly and there is no more bow'el pain my conclusion is take it if it helps you and dont vory for negative reports if it is only placebo nothing else take it if it makes you better
17

Delvil,

US 27/02/2008 14:57:00
Charles Linskaill, maybe if you reduced your use of commas, you would sound competent, and not like someone, who can only talk in increments of 5 seconds, because they can't breathe, correctly.
18

Proximaking,

Dundee 28/02/2008 12:23:50
Depression in women is caused mainly by comparing themselves with other people, cure, give them money to spend rather than giving that money to drugs companies. Depression in men is caused mainly by lack of sex with a woman (usually), cure, provide high class prostitutes on the NHS instead of giving the money to drugs companies. As these men and women are usually compatible it probably makes sense for all depressed women to become high class prostitutes and all depressed men to become their clients. Maybe we could give this new cure a name, .... let's call it marriage.

 

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