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Published Date: 21 November 2008
PLANS were announced yesterday for the first new conventional power station in Scotland for almost three decades.
The coal-fired plant, which could cost up to £2 billion, is being planned for a site next to Hunterston B, the Ayrshire nuclear power station scheduled for shutdown in 2011.

The 1,600MW station would be able to power two million homes and could b
e switched on within ten years.

However, the idea has been met with outrage among environment groups, who say it would result in huge amounts of damaging emissions being released into the atmosphere.

Danish firm Dong Energy and Peel Energy, a sister company of Clydeport, which also operates the Hunterston port, are behind the proposal.

The station would mainly be powered by coal, but could use up to 15 per cent biomass – products from forestry and farming.

Owen Michaelson, chairman of Peel Energy, said the site would be ideal as it already handles a large proportion of Scotland's imported coal, which would avoid the need to transport it across the country.

He added: "Scotland is facing a severe shortfall in electricity as demand continues to grow and old coal and nuclear power stations are decommissioned over the next decade."

The plans follow an announcement two days ago by the Scottish Government that it is planning to demand new power stations are ready to incorporate technology that captures carbon, which can prevent up to 90 per cent of damaging gas being released.

Dong and Peel Energy say they will be ready to use carbon capture and storage at the earliest opportunity.

However, campaigners argue new plants should not just be "capture ready", but should implement capture and storage technology from the outset.

Duncan McLaren, chief executive of Friends of the Earth Scotland, said: "No new coal-fired power station should be approved by the Scottish Government unless it operates carbon capture from day one, or meets an equivalent, tough emissions performance standard by other means.

"The idea of 'capture readiness' is a dangerous smokescreen, which requires little more than that land be set aside for the kit to be added at a later date, without any guarantee that it will ever actually be installed and operated."

Dr Richard Dixon, director of WWF Scotland, added that the focus should be on renewables, rather than "wasting time" on new coal-fired power stations.

Energy minister Jim Mather said any application would be treated on its merits, and added that new coal-fired power stations have "a long-term future in Scotland".

FACT BOX

THERE are just four conventional power plants left in Scotland, and the Scottish Government has ruled out any new nuclear facilities.

ScottishPower has two coal-burning plants by the Forth. Longannet is having its life extended with upgraded equipment allowing for cleaner burning, along with an investigation into its carbon-capture potential, while the future of Cockenzie in East Lothian is under review.

Of the two remaining nuclear power plants in Scotland, Hunterston B is scheduled for shut-down in 2011 and Torness in East Lothian should keep running until 2023.





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  • Last Updated: 20 November 2008 11:06 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 21/11/2008 01:24:03
Am I missing something here, but why isn't it burning Scottish coal?
2

Castaway™ ,

21/11/2008 02:46:09
Possible new coal fired power station in Scotland.
Scotlands energy demand - The load demand varies on a hourly/daily/seasonal basis throughout the year.ie the power required on that one day (usually the coldest day of the year) of max demand is between 2,000MW to 5,500MW and on the min demand day (usually the warmest day of the year) 1,800MW to 3,000MW.

Fossil fuel PS's and to a lesser extent hydro have the ability to follow the changing load demand With coal fired PS's the output can be varied continuously from min output to max output and in beween.

Our present nuclear PS's are base load only, running 24/7 with either take all the output or nothing ie Torness output 1,200MW or 600MW or nothing so they are not flexible enough when it comes to the constant varying consumer demand and require backup or standy by generation.
In the case of Scotland our coal fired PS are the back up to cover the 1,200MW or 600MW loss of output from Torness.

Scotland has about 11,000MW plus of electricity generation capacity including 4 conventional power plants which can produce a total of 6,300MW(7,200MW)from Torness, Longannet,Cockenzie and Peterhead.Peterhead can produce 2400MW but is limited to 1,550MW due to tranmission line.

Is nuclear power an option for New Zealand's electricity needs ? 22 May 2008
http://tinyurl.com/6xlcy3
3

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 21/11/2008 04:55:17
Three obvious questions here :
1 - Why not Scottish coal? we have plenty of it

2 - Why only 1600 MW

3 - What do we do for electricity between Hunterston B
shutting down in 2011 and this new one opening in
2018.

What is clear is that Salmond et al do not have a clue about energy production with his dreamland mantra about Scotland being the Saudi of renewble energy. Despite the turbinisation of Scotland we still need conventional power stations.
4

Dave,

Western Isles 21/11/2008 07:44:17
IRN

Yes, Rules is using something called "sarcasm". Look it up.

He has a dry and wry sense of humour and it was an amusing comment.

Anyways, how do the eco nuts keep warm at present?
5

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 07:45:18
This is a retrograde step. Coal is VERY dirty; it emits more radioactivity than nuclear along with mercury and loads of other pollutants.

The answer is a European supergrid with generation by nuclear and renewables - mainly hydro and wind.
6

Unimpressed one,

21/11/2008 07:52:32
See the luddites, McLaren and Dixon, have been asked for their useless opinions again. It's a bit like asking Amy Winehouse her opinion on the country's economic policy. No conceivable useful input from either on a subject they don't understand.

Presumably we will see Greenpees and their sheep protesting at its construction because it's 'wrecking the planet'. Hopefully any attempt to sabotage construction will be met with the full force of the law and anti-terrorism legislation used against them.
7

Dave,

Western Isles 21/11/2008 08:15:47
Would this be part of London Labours "Public Spending to save the Economy" plan?
8

John S,

21/11/2008 08:16:55
Electricity exporting:-Scot to Eng:1687MW-21/11/2008 08:16
9

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 21/11/2008 08:17:48
We need to build some sort of power stations as there will be a shortage when the old ones close. Longannet must be close to ending as well as Hunterston B and eventually Torness. The time taken to design/construct a new nuclear station will be too long, assuming that Alec Salmond allows it! Wind and wave are a long way away from supplying our needs. I'm afraid we're stuck with building coal, gas or oil. The latter two will probably run out a lot quicker than coal. Coal can be supplemented with biomass. Drax is currently building new biomass facilities to produce approx 25% of the fuel requirements. Can't see what the problem is with building the coal powered station.
10

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 21/11/2008 08:20:09
At the rate we're going with power stations going out of commisssion and new ones only on the drawing board, we'll be burning back copies of the Scotsman to keep warm.

Naive people like Dixon and McLaren are probably rich enough to have expensive alternative means of energy installed but grannies the length and breadth of the land do not and probably cannot feasibly do this for some time. Also note that these two get 3 paragraphs as unelected "representatives" while Jim Mather who is elected gets one. They must be laughing all the way to the bank with this kind of free publicity for their misguided and trendy liberal lefty junk science.

All this predicated on the gloom about CO2 and warming which is rapidy going down the plughole. Why not coal just get on with it. Just Do It.
11

gus1940,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 08:31:27
#16

Surely you mean unsold copies of The Scotsman.
12

Dragonlord,

21/11/2008 09:06:03
The greens are moaning about a coal fired PS? Why then are they so quiet about China opening one every week? Scotland is self sufficirent in Hydro power, and we export power South and have done for years. Why is it they wanted to build a huge network of pylons right through the heart of the Scottish countryside? When will they stop the subsidy to the hydro plants that mean they run at half power? Too many eco warriors that know nothing, trying to turn Scotland into Englandshire's waste dump. We don't need or want nuclear stations here, thank you very much.
13

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 21/11/2008 09:12:49
Longannets only getting FGD because it has to by law. They've dilly dallyed over it for years. There was talk of closing Longannet and building a new station, especially with the closure of the mine. It might still happen.
14

sigholm,

ayrshire 21/11/2008 09:16:15
Fantastic news, common-sense at last. It can only be hoped that the half-witted pack up and join Paw Broon and Captain Darling, sitting round their LUMP of uranium toasting bread.
The more use of King Coal the better,get jobs back into our ravaged communities, give the people back a bit of self respect.
Get another shovel-full of coal on the fire Jimmy, keep it BLAZING|
15

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 09:25:33
According to the British Energy website it still owns Hunterston B and some of the surrounding land.

It can be no coincidence that the new power station is being proposed for a site next to the existing Hunterston B and, although nominally a nuclear industry company, British Energy must have a finger in this development pie?
16

mr angry,

21/11/2008 10:07:10
23. If you read it , Clydeport who own the hunterston terminal are part of the company planning to build it. So no need to have British Energy involved necessarily.
17

11+failed,

the pans 21/11/2008 10:15:18
Perhaps if AGW is a fact this new power station will be built in time to reduce the steadily falling global temperature. While global warming luddites like "Rules" seem to believe in rubbish computer models the actual global temperature has fallen each year for the past 7 years and 2008 is on course to confirm the trend and be cooler than 2007.
18

noswod,

Honestas 21/11/2008 10:44:36
Coal = Co2 = children in mines in China = big profits. Nuclear power = no CO2, energy security, hi tech jobs, low prices. Now Alex which one are you going to jump for. Aye its planting imported windmills in the Atlantic and its lights oot time.
19

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 21/11/2008 11:29:41
#26 11+Failed

"the actual global temperature has fallen each year for the past 7 years"

Not so. Here are the figures (from HADCRU, see:
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh%2Bsh/monthly

2001, 0.409 deg Celsius above 1961-1990 average
2002, 0.464C
2003, 0.473C
2004, 0.447C
2005, 0.482C
2006, 0.422C
2007, 0.403C

2008 thus far is cooler (at 0.315C) by about 0.13C than the average for the last seven years. That is during a year with a strong La Nina (cooling) episode in the Pacific and (very slightly) less active sun. That provides no comfort for those who still cling desperately to their false belief that CO2 is not responsible for global warming.

What is missing from the above discussion is any concern to determine the alternative to building more power generating plants: that alternative includes a nationwide program to draft proof and insulate buildings, including homes. Such a program would reduce our reliance on imported energy; provide employment close to home throughout the land; give us warmer, more comfortable homes; reduce the incidence of cold and damp related illnesses; disproportionately benefit the poor who can ill-afford expensive energy; and ... probably save more energy than the same amount of money spent on power generation plants would provide. And, of course, help to decrease the millions of tons of CO2 we in Scotland are chucking into the atmosphere every year.

Isn't that a better way to live?
20

Unimpressed one,

21/11/2008 11:48:07
#28, "Isn't that a better way to live?"

No.
21

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 12:22:46
For the sadly ignorant above who continually advertise their scepticism about mans effect on the climate of our little blue planet:

'Human influence on climate extends to every continent'

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/latest/pr20081103.html
22

Yonthing!,

21/11/2008 13:41:56
#1 - dead people don't use electricity, so we then need less of it anyway :)

A win-win for the tree-huggers. Until they get old and can't heat their homes :)
23

11+failed,

the pans 21/11/2008 14:35:25
30 fred bloggs
Your faith in "metoffice.gov.uk/" is truely touching!

The Jan 2007 forecast for the coming year from our world leading global warming conspiracy advocates The Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research(Essentially the Met. Office)

"Global temperature for 2007 is expected to be 0.54 °C above the long-term (1961-1990) average of 14.0 °C;
There is a 60% probability that 2007 will be as warm or warmer than the current warmest year (1998 was +0.52 °C above the long-term 1961-1990 average)."

We now know the real result for 2007. 2007 turned out to be 0.37°C above the long-term (1961-1990) average. 2007 was colder than 2006 which in turn was cooler than 2005, indeed 2007 was the coldest year since 2000.
Of course the Met Office has plastered the press with grovelling apologies for their rubbish forecasts and I don't think!
24

Mcsnagpile,

21/11/2008 14:52:55
Do build a CFPS on the basis of imported coal is down right stuuupid. Before the down turn the price of coal was going through the roof.
On the other hand we could start a new Largs Coal and Ash minstrel show. Where would all the tons of ash go??? A nice day out on Sawcoets beach and breath in the fresh NOx SOx CO CO2 and a bit o fly ash fur the indigestion.
25

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 21/11/2008 15:28:19
#32 11+failed

A "60% probability that 2007 will be as warm or warmer than" 1998.

That means a 40% probability that it will be cooler than 1998, which what it turned out to be. Not at "0.37°C" above the long-term (1961-1990) average as you claim, but at 0.403C.

If you cannot understand probability forecasts then that is your problem, but you are under no obligation to broadcast evidence of your inability to all and sundry.

As for the reason for 2007 being cooler than the 60% forecast: that relates to the development of the La Nina episode, particularly in the latter half of 2007. The development of El Ninos (warming) and La Nina (cooling) episodes is not currently accurately predictable. Moreover, they can alter global average temperatures by up to about + or - 0.2 deg Celsius, which is about TEN TIMES the annual contribution of AGW (c.+ 0.018 deg Celsius per year). El Ninos/La Ninas are the main reason why i) predictions for the coming year are presented with fairly low probabilities (eg. 60%), and ii) the graph of global annual temperatures is so "noisy" with periods of cooler temperatures for a years being frequently observed.

The occurrence of El Ninos/La Ninas neither stops the relentless build up of heat, due to increased levels of CO2 and other long lived greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, nor provides any contrary evidence to suggest that it is not happening.

26

11+failed,

21/11/2008 15:52:54
34 Slioch,
Difficult to tell if you or the Met Office are the deceivers. Perhaps you have come to realise their figures are suspect and their forecasts useless.
2007 was 0.37°C" above the long-term according to Hadley, perhaps you know better.

“The global temperature in 1999 was 0.26 °C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average - 0.11 °C warmer than 1999”#

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20080429.html.

27

sceptic,

livingston 21/11/2008 16:50:46
35 11+failed,

“The global temperature in 1999 was 0.26 °C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average - 0.11 °C warmer than 1999”

Another example of statistical manipulation by the Met Office I guess they and their acolytes like #30 and #34 would object to:-
"The global temperature in 1998 was 0.54°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.17°C colder than 1999"
28

11+failed,

the pans 21/11/2008 17:17:47
36 sceptic
"I guess they and their acolytes like #30 and #34 would object to:- "
Yes! and probably all of the following.
The global temperature in 2006 was 0.42°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.05°C colder than 2005
The global temperature in 2005 was 0.48°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.11°C colder than 2005

The global temperature in 2004 was 0.43°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.06°C colder than 2004

The global temperature in 2003 was 0.46°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.11°C colder than 2003

The global temperature in 2002 was 0.46°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.09°C colder than 2002

The global temperature in 2001 was 0.40°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.03°C colder than 2001.
29

11+failed,

the pans 21/11/2008 17:19:40
"The global temperature in 2006 was 0.42°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.05°C colder than 2005"
That should have been
The global temperature in 2006 was 0.42°C above the 1961-90 average, whereas 2007 was 0.37 °C above this average 0.05°C colder than 2006
30

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 21/11/2008 19:12:22
#35 11+failed

You quoted the MET Office (Exeter) not the Climate Research Centre, Hadley, E Anglia, HADCRUT3, which I used). They apparently use different series - I'm not sure, why but I'll try to find out.

Having used the MET office press release for 29th April 2008, its a shame you didn't manage to learn anything from it: they were saying much the same as myself (and anybody else who bothers to look into the science of the matter), namely that the recent slightly cooler conditions are mainly a manifestation of a La Nina event and have no implications for global warming.
31

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 21/11/2008 23:00:18
Here is a graph of monthly average global temperatures (from NASA GISS) from 1975 to the present with the influence of the El Nino/La Nina episodes and of volcanoes removed (as much as is reasonably possible). The red line is the best straight line fit to this data.

http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/g-m-v.jpg

Look at it and ask yourself: "Has global warming stopped?"

See: http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/known-factors/#more-1214
for original article.

 

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