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Published Date: 14 December 2008
GREEN MSPs are threatening to block the SNP Government's budget plans for next year unless ministers back plans to spend £100m a year insulating every home in Scotland.
The support of Holyrood's two Green MSPs is crucial for the minority SNP Government if it is to get enough backing for its annual spending package. But the pair say they will sign up to a deal only on condition that ministers support their comprehe
nsive insulation plan.

The Greens claim that £100m a year for 10 years would pay to insulate every home in Scotland properly, saving each homeowner £340 a year.

The scheme would also subsidise homeowners who want to generate their own electricity by placing wind turbines on their roof. The Greens claim that ministers could get power companies to meet half the cost of the huge programme, as has been done in parts of England.

The plan is unusual in that it would apply equally to every home in Scotland, no matter how wealthy its occupants.

Green MSP Patrick Harvie said: "Policymakers have spent a quarter of a century trying to target the fuel poor, and they have missed over and over again. The only way to be sure every person in fuel poverty has a warm home is to insulate every home in Scotland."

He added: "The failed approach from Labour in London is to means-test, to set up a hotline and see who rings it, to set arbitrary eligibility criteria, and to pay only part of the cost."

Green MSPs believe they have a good chance of getting SNP support because of the alternatives the SNP faces.

The Liberal Democrats are calling for a 2p cut in income tax, which is deeply opposed by the SNP. Labour, meanwhile, would be expected to demand the entire budget be rewritten, in return for its support.





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  • Last Updated: 13 December 2008 9:16 PM
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1

Chris Cook,

Linlithgow 14/12/2008 01:03:51
Nothing against investment in insulation, but any such £100m per year would be better spent on retrofitting combined heat and power.

While microgeneration is a very poor investment, and comes a long way behind solar hot water (even in Scotland!) and ground source heating.

More to the point,why should this money not truly be investment, rather than a grant, so that part of the savings made could come back into a "Pool".

ie a recyclable grant, or "energy loan" - probably collected by the relevant energy utility for a fee.

That would certainly make the money go further.
2

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 09:07:27

Good point Chris, I agree

This would be better targeted at communities rather than individuals with the ability to install insulation, it's never been clear to me, is insulation installation available to those that rent accommodation?

All 800,000 of them?
3

Goat Boy,

14/12/2008 10:58:28
Something sensible from the Green Party for a change. A brilliant idea and one that the SNP should be considering if it is serious about meeting its dream of an 80% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
4

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 11:45:16


More insulation is all fine and well if you have cavity construction like the majority of England, unfortunately 2/3 of Scottish homes do not have this type of construction and these types of properties typically form the most fuel poor households.

Tenements, Farm Houses, Crofts and pre1970's houses.

Great emphasis on community heating schemes and lowering the cost of energy must be progressed in conjunction with improving homes.

5

Green Ben,

Edinburgh 14/12/2008 13:34:13
Wardog raises a good point. I would like to see any such drive help tenements with a range of measures rather than just insulation. For instance, lots of the tenements in my street have huge single-glazed windows but no shutters (so at this time of year you see a lot of cardboard, blankets and bubblewrap taped up). Could the Greens' scheme help get more shutters and window draught-proofing installed?

Good luck with the negotiations, this would be a fantastic win-win for jobs, emissions and health.
6

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 14:11:58
What a pleasant post for a change.Agree with post one and following comments but( and I dont want to spoil the party by bringing politics into it)are the SNP happy to allow themselves to be virtually blackmailed by the tiny Green Party into accepting their scheme? I would have hoped that any enlightened administration would accept this or similar proposals on its merits rather than as a quid pro quo for political support elsewhere.
Kind of sullies the whole thing or am i being naive?
Realpolitiek and all that?
7

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 14:58:43

Geoff

It's posturing by the greens, like LVT, it hasn't been thought out and Patrick Harvie whom I palce great faith in would be the first to admit that.....

"...The Greens claim that £100m a year for 10 years would pay to insulate every home in Scotland properly....."

Does anyone actually believe that is possible given the spending constraints in 2010 and 2011 will mean over £1Billion less in the block grant.

Typically cavity insulation and loft insulation are around £500-1000

To insulate older and traditionally built Scottish properties is around £4000-5000 per home.

With some 2.5million homes........ you can do the sums.

8

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 20:17:19
Insulation could also mean over-cladding, which would cover non traditional housing. But I think posters are right, it wouldn't really work on an ad hoc house by house basis, there would need to be some kind of rolling programme. It would also provide work, but obviously it all needs to be costed.
9

Phyl,

Edinburgh 15/12/2008 20:22:36
The prices #8 is quoting are presumably based on the sort of price you'd expect to pay a company if you got that sort of work done yourself, on an individual basis. This scheme would involve doing every house, all under one banner, so there would undoubtedly be simply enormous economies of scale to consider.
Also bear in mind that as the article says, there is already a precedent (and indeed a legal duty) for power companies to help fund schemes like this, and if they do pay for half the cost as suggested then it would be £200m a year available, not just £100m.
Of the 2.5 million 'homes' you talk about, a huge proportion of these will be smaller properties such as flats and the like which can be insultated on mass, and a bigger proporion than you think will be the more easily insulated variety of more modern house. Just look around, loads of former council housing around. Then there is the fact that a noteable fraction of homes will already have insultation of the required standard.
Assuming then with the economy of scale, an average cost of £1000 per 'home' for even if it is 2 million homes out of the 2.5m, that gives you £2000m, which is £200m a year for ten years.

Sorted.

This is a simply brilliant idea of the 'why haven't we already done this years ago' variety, great Green politics - hell great by almost any political standards, and will pay for itself in no time. It would also make a huge impact towards us making the massive changes needed to reduce climate impact and start living more sustainably.

 

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