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Blair received into Catholic Church in private Mass at cardinal's home



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Published Date: 24 December 2007
CARDINAL Keith O'Brien, the Archbishop of Edinburgh, last night welcomed Tony Blair, the former prime minister, into the Roman Catholic Church.
Mr Blair made the long- predicted conversion at a special service on Friday conducted by the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, and his private secretary, Monsignor Mark O'Toole.

Mr Blair joins his wife Cherie and four children in the Roman Catholic faith.

Cardinal O'Brien told The Scotsman: "I was very happy to hear that Tony Blair had been received into the Catholic Church.

"He had obviously spent a long time considering God's call. Now I join with others in wishing him and his family every blessing as they go forward together in one faith."

Following the special Mass at the archbishop's house in Westminster, attended by Mrs Blair and their children, Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor – the leading Roman Catholic in England and Wales – said the service was "very intimate, very prayerful". The Vatican has also welcomed Mr Blair's decision to become a Catholic.

It comes as research suggests Catholic churchgoers now outnumber Anglicans in the UK for the first time in 500 years.

A Vatican spokesman said such an "authoritative personality" choosing to join the Catholic Church "could only give rise to joy and respect".

Last year, Mr Blair, who is now a Middle East peace envoy, said he had prayed to God when deciding whether or not to send UK troops into Iraq.

It had been an open secret that Mr Blair had been taking instruction from a Catholic priest as a prelude to conversion.

Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, wished the former prime minister well in his spiritual journey.

Dr Williams said: "A great Catholic writer of the last century said that the only reason for moving from one Christian family to another was to deepen one's relationship with God.

"I pray that this will be the result of Tony Blair's decision in his personal life."

But the former Tory minister Ann Widdecombe – herself a Catholic convert – said Mr Blair's voting record as an MP had often "gone against Church teaching" and that his conversion raised some questions.

The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC) reacted with surprise to the news of Mr Blair's conversion.

John Smeaton, its national director, said: "During his premiership Tony Blair became one of the world's most significant architects of the culture of death, promoting abortion, experimentation on unborn embryos, including cloned embryos, and euthanasia by neglect.

"SPUC is writing to Tony Blair to ask him whether he has repented of the anti-life positions he has so openly advocated throughout his political career."

There has never been a Roman Catholic prime minister of Britain, although there is no constitutional barrier to such a move.

However, it had been suggested in the past that Mr Blair would wait until after leaving office, to avoid possible clashes such as that of the role in appointing Church of England bishops.

A RELIGIOUS OFFICE

TONY Blair's formal conversion appears to have taken a number of months and it is thought his decision followed a period of contemplation rather than a "falling out" with the Church of England over an issue such as the ordination of women priests.

The move comes after years of speculation that Mr Blair would convert from Anglicanism after he resigned from No 10 in June.

Converting while in office would have caused him problems in connection with issues such as abortion, contraception, homosexuality and faith schools.

Mr Blair's former spokesman, Alastair Campbell, once famously told reporters "We don't do God", but has since said that his former boss "does do God in quite a big way".

Even while in office, Mr Blair attended Catholic services with his family, but did not participate fully.

The full article contains 638 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 23 December 2007 10:42 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Boy Wonder,

24/12/2007 00:28:35
The only problem I have with this, is that he didn't do it while in office at Number Ten!

Coward!
2

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 24/12/2007 01:15:15
Since you have proclaimed yourself to be a ?"Former Roman Catholic" - whatever that entails - and now have called Blair a coward it is obvious that the Christmas OR Holiday spirit is not with thee.

You have called me a twit and seem to be in a generally foul mood.

I wish you and your family greetings of the season and best wishes for all in the New Year.

Some of us have grace and forgiveness in us and I sincerely hope this mood of yours will pass.

Frankly, I was surprised at the vehemence of your vitriol.
3

Miss Jean Brodie,

24/12/2007 01:49:05
5 shillings on ‘Charlie is my Darling’ at the 3.15 Cheltenham

Merry Buddahmas!
4

Scullion,

Canada 24/12/2007 01:59:06
If Ms. Widdecombe's advice were to be followed, no Roman Catholic would ever be elected in Britain, U.S.A., Canada etc. as they would be considered pawns of Rome. Politicians represent their consituents, not thier personal agendas.
To all who agree, disagree or can't be bothered, I wish you all a merry Christmas to you and yours in the best tradition of what this season is meant to bring.
5

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24/12/2007 04:03:16
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6

BMCG,

24/12/2007 05:03:05
#2 - your comments must pertain to something other than what appears in this thread or are the postings incomplete?
#5 – you should re read #4’s posting a second time – you didn’t get it the first time through.
7

Harris tweed and levi's 501,

Edinburgh 24/12/2007 05:32:59
Will a few “Hail Marys” absolve St Tony of his war crimes?
8

samhain,

no mans land 24/12/2007 05:47:31
7 He needs more than a few Hail Mary's.
9

Bob Brundige,

Springfield 24/12/2007 06:04:24
Why can't people, like Mr.Blair see that denomination for what it represents? Worldliness. If one were to go back in time and ask St. Paul, or even St. Peter, what a Catholic was. They would surely be puzzled.
10

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 24/12/2007 06:45:22
Blair has gone from being an Anglo-Catholic to becoming a Roman Catholic, what is the big deal.
11

Media 1,

cape town 24/12/2007 08:01:29
And so another gun toting person with little respect for human life enters the most corrupt, murderous and deceitful organisation on Earth.
You cannot challenge my comments, one look at the history books tells all we need to know about this organisation!
12

Paul Voltaire,

24/12/2007 08:06:11
His first Confession is bound to be an epic.
13

McMillar,

Fife 24/12/2007 08:29:41
#12 – Too true! He’d better get an estimate 1st and book a day off. Keeps Blair in the news but do we really care? Left a mess and farewell tour dragged on for years. I like the comment from #9 as well. Why feel the need to put a label on your beliefs? My god is bigger than your god..? Maybe that’s what he’s doing…trying to pick a winning side again. I wonder if he’ll use this to now justify future decisions. Dangerous man who may in future be convicted of war crimes.
14

donald,

glasgow 24/12/2007 08:33:35
Beads and Bead and beads of Holy Watter.
Blair fell doon the Chapel sterrs
into the world hereafter.

When he got there his bunker was bare
No weapons of mass destruction.
He phoned the burning Bush to send them to oblivion.
15

bill2,

FH 24/12/2007 09:07:20
"Cardinal O'Brien told The Scotsman: "I was very happy to hear that Tony Blair had been received into the Catholic Church."
"He had obviously spent a long time considering God's call."

A different God to the one known to the rest of the Christian community; one who condones false witness, killing, and other breaches of the ten commandments.

Blair is not repentant, and as such is not fit to be a member of any church.
16

Saltslodge,

Monmouth 24/12/2007 09:09:06
Now that it is unlikely Blair is going to be elected president of the EU or Director General of the UN and his role as peace envoy is going nowhere he's obviously launched his campaign for Pope
17

JG,

Fife 24/12/2007 09:14:13
Going by what Anne Widdecombe said then, for votes in parliament you should just phone the Pope, find out what his opinion is and just add the number of Catholic votes in whatever direction he's said. Anything else would be "against the church's teachings".
18

jdships,

Edinburgh 24/12/2007 09:15:14
Whose really interested ?
This is a non event about a yesterday man !!!!!!!
19

The Equaliser,

24/12/2007 09:31:28
Bliar cant do us any more damage so if it makes him feel better good luck to him. Joining the Church of Rome has no bearing on anything so get on with it Tony and remember any wrong doing can be sorted out in the confession box.
20

Boy Wonder,

24/12/2007 09:35:09
#2. My vitriol was a little diluted! Unlike Blair who has always been deluded, Tim! :D
21

Boy Wonder,

24/12/2007 09:37:09
btw ... isn't Religion the last Refuge of the Scoundrel??
22

albanman,

The capital city 24/12/2007 09:52:57
No.15 Blair is certainly not one of my favourite politicians, but no human being (you included) can judge the condition of his soul. I think he should have made the move whilst PM, but I can understand why he might have seen that as problematic when dealing with N.Ireland.

No.11 I wonder what history books you read. Your vitriolic opinions are cheap,like South African wine. Back up or stay quite.
23

Joey Pica,

St Atheism on Sea 24/12/2007 09:59:55
No 21, Boy Wonder wrote:
"btw ... isn't Religion the last Refuge of the Scoundrel??"
Nah! Phoney Tony has the House of Lords to look forward to.
24

Helen,

24/12/2007 10:02:30
As a practising Catholic I feel like walking away from the Catholic Church....How on earth can an evil man like Blair be admitted to any Christian denomination? He is a war criminal and is only interested in massaging his own ego. I am disgusted at the Cardinal and will be writing to tell him so.
25

Loki,

Valhalla 24/12/2007 10:15:46
O'Brien, O'Connor, O'Toole, O'come all yea war criminals and help yourself to the feast Cherie.
26

Media 1,

cape town 24/12/2007 10:21:58
Albanman:

For the record. Are you absolutely rejecting the fact that The Vatican signed concardat's with Musollini and Hitler? Are you absolutlely and catagorically stating that The Vatican pope in 1945 did not say, " Hitler can guide the ship, he knows what he is doing. I met him prior to him becomming Chacellor and I was impressed by his clarity of mind and excellent vision" Are you denying that those words were spoken?

Are you stating here and now for the record, that Pius III did not murder 60 000 catholic protesters in one day and then call it the crowning achievment of his papacy? Are you denying that?

Are you saying that members of the RC Church in this day and age are NOT PROTESTANTS (In the true sense) protesters in otherwords. Are you denying that the followers of this organisation are in agreement with their church in terms of abortion, homosexuality and contraception? Or are they protesters? Are you suggesting that all catholics agree that the past vicars of christ should still be honoured by the modern Vatican regardless of their murderous past?
Are you telling me that none of the above is based on fact?
27

Media 1,

cape town 24/12/2007 10:29:44
And for the record. I am not against catholics, if I was I would need to reject my parents.
I am against the organisation that represents Catholics.
I am against that organisations murderous and horrific human rights record. I am against their old alliance with Hitler and Musollini. I am against the fact that they continue to honour ALL the past popes on the vicars of christ list regardless that some of them murdered 60 000 people in one day. I am against their dictatorial position and refusal to offer people a relationship with god. Instead they seek to capture you, place you in bondange tied to their laws and rules, for the reward of heaven.
I despise this organisation and all that it stands for, and if that makes me a bigot then that is a name I will gladly wear around my neck. In the old days the Vatican called us protesters, now we are bigots! Go figure!
28

Born to roughneck,

Reading the Herald 24/12/2007 10:29:45
Call me cynical but how much will Bliar get for the TV and publishing rights to his first confession??
29

TSynicto the core,

saltireland. 24/12/2007 10:32:48
Does anyone know how much the money-grubbing Cherie charged the Vatican as transfer fee to entice Tony from the other side?
As to her being a 'very devout' Catholic her devotion didn't get in the way of her banking a six figure fee for speaking at dinners in aid of an Australian charity for children with cancer-money that morally should have gone to the charity.
The Catholic Church's loss is the Anglo Church's gain.
30

Mcsnagpile,

24/12/2007 10:51:21
Well Maggie has missed out on this one. She could have become the first lady pope and had the high privilege of using the papal diapers
31

Stoo,

24/12/2007 10:57:22
Look on the bright side - he'll never get near the throne now.
32

bill2,

24/12/2007 10:58:42
19
The Equaliser,

"Bliar cant do us any more damage"

Want to bet on it?
33

bill2,

24/12/2007 11:03:16
22
albanman,

"Blair is certainly not one of my favourite politicians, but no human being (you included) can judge the condition of his soul."

With his record of murder, lies, theft, betrayal and denial, I think we could take a good guess at the blackness of it.
34

scottish person,

paisley 24/12/2007 11:14:58
He could not become a catholic, as it is not permitted to be PM and catholic at the same time in this queen ruled country. Henry the 8th seen to that. When is this country going to enter the 21st century.
35

shivago8,

livingston 24/12/2007 11:24:56
The liar can do what he wants,but why was the camera,s there,he obviously wants to have a snipe at someone For god,s sake keep him out of the limelight,we have had enough of this warmonger who is responsible for spilling the blood of millions of people,how on earth can he sleep at night
36

Kipling,

@DoomRay Heretical Refuge 24/12/2007 11:28:01
See Scotland on Sunday:
He had to think of something to keep him in the news. &
""The very fact that Blair has promoted the right to abortion would horrify many papists. Those R.C.s who take their religion seriously during the week as well as on Sunday would see both abortion and contraception as against the teachings of the Church (as well as potentially being murder) -- although I suspect adding to their number and having such an infamous convert might overwhelm the principles of some of the stricter ones.

"Westminster, 7 July 2004 - The Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC), Europe's largest pro-life group and the world's first pro-life lobbying and educational organisation, has rejected as "spin" comments by Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, and David Steel, abortion law pioneer, on abortion law reform.

"Anthony Ozimic, SPUC political secretary, commented: 'Both Tony Blair and David Steel are unrepentant promoters of ever greater access to abortion, and no one should be duped by their spin about their alleged re-think on abortion.'"

Again, what was Blair doing in the participation of having Rowan Williams appointed as Archbishop of Canterbury? Surely at this stage, with his leanings towards papism, he should have opted out. But no, our Blair likes to have his fingers in all parts of the power pudding. The irony is inescapable, CofE having one of their most senior spokemen voted in by an aspiring Catholic convert? ""

I note as indicated above at #25 that the individuals who have received him into the R.C. church have all irish surnames. Did the others politely refuse?
37

Pax V,

24/12/2007 11:28:27
SP, 34

The only bar to a Catholic being Prime Minister is the widespread bigotry it generates amongst neanderthals. Some good examples shown on this page.

38

Pax V,

24/12/2007 11:31:57
Kipling 36

List all those who refused, please.
39

Pax V,

24/12/2007 11:35:13
Amidst this sad outbreak of bigotry and badness, there are some outbreaks of incredible stupidity and ignorance.

Forums like these work much better when contributors demonstrate their knowledge rather than their ignorance!

My favourites are the ignoramuses who base their comments on Catholic teaching re the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession) on watching a few episodes of the Dave Allen Show in 1979. Hilarious....
40

Kipling,

@DoomRay Heretical Refuge 24/12/2007 11:42:16
#38. I wish.
41

Stoo,

24/12/2007 11:55:57
"He could not become a catholic, as it is not permitted to be PM and catholic at the same time in this queen ruled country. Henry the 8th seen to that. When is this country going to enter the 21st century."

Lies and nonsense.
42

Bob Christie,

Fiefdom of Broon 24/12/2007 12:08:10
Why is the Scotsman wasting space with this non-story when Scotland on Sunday wasted space with it yesterday.
The public heaved a collective sigh of good-riddance to this murdering liar in the summer. Whatever charades he wishes to play on a Sunday are of no importance to the public.
It is just possible that he could become joint President of Europe and Pope.
43

Pax V,

24/12/2007 12:25:40
Stoo, 41

Did it ever occur to you that the author of #34 might have been mistaken rather than lying?

And, what is your view of a society in which a man is unable to freely convert to the religious belief of his choice?
44

Pax V,

24/12/2007 12:26:47
Bob 42

But you couldnt resist reading and COMMENTING on this "non story".
45

Pax V,

24/12/2007 12:29:16
Kipling, 40

Then please explain your comment.

Are you surprised that Tony's conversion to the one true faith was led by the local Catholic community rather than leaders in South America or Africa? Please explain.
46

Stoo,

Oxton 24/12/2007 12:36:49
"Did it ever occur to you that the author of #34 might have been mistaken rather than lying?"

Nope, it was the usual outlandish lies that are all too common here.

"And, what is your view of a society in which a man is unable to freely convert to the religious belief of his choice?"

Blairs gawd bothering was not kept secret.

"Are you surprised that Tony's conversion to the one true faith"

One true fait, oh good grief.
47

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:04:04
#46, Gordon

Explaion to us how you arrived at such a bizarre conclusion.
48

Stoo,

24/12/2007 13:06:43
#48 - something to do with the "one true faith" nonsense.
49

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:09:38
Oxon, 47

Explain to us HOW you KNOW #34 was LIES rather than a simple mistake.

Whilst Tony's Christian inclinations were indeed well known, he was wary of converting to Catholicism. I ask you AGAIN - what is your view of a society in which a man is unable to freely convert to the religious belief of his choice? can you answer openly and honestly this time, please?

Are you surprised that Tony's conversion to the one true faith was led by the local Catholic community rather than leaders in South America or Africa? Please explain - was addressed to another contributor. I'm not surprised to note he has done a runner.
50

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:23:30
Gordon,52

How bizarre.

Over 1000 million people believe the Catholic Church is the one true faith.

You're plainly deranged.
51

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:25:12
Wini, 51

It's interesting to note that many would have had a problem if a Catholic were to appoint Ch of Eng Bishops.....but the fact that Gordon Brown is NOT an Anglican doesnt trouble them.
52

Stoo,

24/12/2007 13:25:31
"Explain to us HOW you KNOW #34 was LIES rather than a simple mistake."

Why would you be mistaken about that?

"Over 1000 million people believe the Catholic Church is the one true faith. "

Arrogant nonsense.
53

Lock,

24/12/2007 13:36:39
'Over 1000 million people believe the Catholic Church is the one true faith.'

Leaving over 5000 million people that don't.

I'd rather be deranged than an idiot.
54

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:37:16
Gordon, 156

Only YOU suggesting they dont count.

They are ENTITLED to their view, just as I am ENTITLED to mine. It's called a liberal democracy.

Incidentally, Catholicism is the biggest religion in the world.
55

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:38:04
Lock, 57

As you wish.

Deranged it is then.
56

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:39:05
Stoo, 55

Are we not allowed to hold our own religious views, Adolf?
57

Pax V,

24/12/2007 13:42:13
I see the intolerant seculars are out in force today.

Otherwise known as the Thought Police!

Err....errmmmm...is it OK if I hold some religious views in Britain in 2007?
58

truthsleuth,

24/12/2007 13:44:15
We now know the reason for his pressure for 'Faith Schools'
The quid pro quo for his entry to the catholic church and thence to become Gods envoy on earth'.
59

Methalions,

24/12/2007 13:57:09
Pax V

"Incidentally, Catholicism is the biggest religion in the world."

..and the sun is the biggest selling newspaper. Biggest isn't always best.
60

jdships,

Edinburgh 24/12/2007 14:04:22
Please please please !
Let's just move on from this meaningless story .

Religon is for the religeous - whoever they may be , thank goodness it's not me !!!
61

Walter Ego,

Durness 24/12/2007 14:06:07
Roman Catholic Church? What about a Roman Catholic Council Tax freeze?
62

Pax V,

24/12/2007 14:08:27
Meths, 64

All for the individual to decide...

Each to his own, eh?

I just think it's sad that widespread intolerant secularism cannot cope with a man freely expressing his religious beliefs.

Some good examples above. Adolf would have been proud iof these fascists.
63

Pax V,

24/12/2007 14:09:28
truth, 63

Anything to support your claim?
64

Nubar Gulbenkian,

24/12/2007 14:11:54
PAX V

Judging by the number od inane posts you have made you must be the "empty vessel" equivalent of this forum.

Now that he has become a Catholic, I imagine Bliar's conscience is assuaged with regard to his lies and murders.
65

Pax V,

24/12/2007 14:11:58
Stoo,

Point out to that silly moo Winnie that the PM selects the Bishops....and that Gordonm Broon aint an Anglican!

Lapsed Catholics....aye...we have them....like EVERY other faith.

Time for the intolerance to stop, folks.
66

Pax V,

24/12/2007 14:13:03
Nubar, 69

Murders?

Really?

I must have missed that.

Any links?

S'funny....cant find any reference to them on the BBC site.

Does the sun shine in your world?
67

sam the god,

24/12/2007 14:16:40
well he will now be able to get special needs equipment from social work now
68

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 24/12/2007 14:18:35
# 1 Boy Wonder...... Spot on . Blair was a coward. He was afraid to upset the sectarian British establishment.Where else in the western world do we have the prime minister of any country appointing Protestant bishops to a house of parliament? Britain is a anti- Catholic sectarian state.Also, all members of the British parliament must swear loyalty to the sectarian English monarchy,or suffer expulsion from that house,and they have the cheek to call themselves" the mother of parliaments" Bigots one and all. Who said "home rule was Rome rule? Oh! dear Oh dear!
69

Nubar Gulbenkian,

24/12/2007 14:21:14
#71

Try weapons of mass destruction!
Try the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children!

The sun does shine in my world, which is clearly not the same planet as yours.
Ever thought of rehab for your compulsive posting addiction?
70

Pax V,

24/12/2007 14:27:39
Nubar, 74

Err...where's those murder convictions?

Any links?

WHO decided Tony Blair was a murderer? YOU?
71

Nubar Gulbenkian,

24/12/2007 14:31:13
#75
You have just vindicated my previous posts!

You need help pal!

Is your first name Tam?

Unlike you I am not sitting at my pc waiting on the next posting, and am signing off now.
Happy Christmas to (even) you!
72

Bashkim Krasniqi,

London 24/12/2007 15:04:54
This is the most wonderful Christmas present that I have ever received. Blair I pray for your enemies that they shall be punished whenever they write hatred comments about you and your family. We are now real brothers in Christ. Alleluia !!!!
73

Stoo,

24/12/2007 15:07:33
"Are we not allowed to hold our own religious views, Adolf? "

You are indeed, but calling the one true faith is what causes all the problems you gawd botherers bring to the world.

"Time for the intolerance to stop, folks. "

As the resident fundie, I wish you listen to yourself.
74

JG,

Fife 24/12/2007 15:09:06
#75 Pax
Hello there, Pax old chap! Long time no hear! Back rattling the rosaries again, are you?

I personally have no problem with Tony Blair (or anyone else) being/becoming/stopping being a Catholic - it's up to him/them. I would have a problem with a Prime Minister deferring any judgement he/she might make to Rome, though. After all we elect a politicicn to represent us, not a theoligian - and a foreign one at that!!
75

Media 1,

cape town 24/12/2007 15:11:43
If we take your average practicing Catholic's in the modern era, we essentially have god fearing people who worship their diety through the laws and rules in place for them, as set out by the Roman Catholic Church..
Now considering that most Catholics are at odds with the Churches views on abortion, homosexuality, contraception, confession and some other contentious issues, it must be said that they are protesting the churches views. In other words, they are protestants. Fortunately for them, in this day and age they will not be murdered by the Pope and his cronies for their views. But it is interesting to note that by disagreeing with so many laws, people are in essence protesting...
76

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 24/12/2007 15:18:22
Well done to Tony Blair for converting to the one true church founded by Jesus Christ.Saint Peter was the first Pope!His successor being the present Pope.Read the gospel according to St.Matthew.Chapter16...verses 16 to 19 and believe brothers! A happy Christmas to you all and good health in 2008,whether you be Catholic, Protestant Jew or non-believer.
77

yoric,

24/12/2007 15:35:10
Another War Criminal taken in by the Catholic Church, perhaps the Church will authorise a false identity for Blair, like the Catholic Church did for hundreds of Nazi fugitives in 1945/46.
78

Media 1,

Cape Town 24/12/2007 15:37:30
Hunky Dorey
TRUE CHURCH??? lmao

Not only does Rome's pope call himself infallible and a vicar of christ, but the church he heads CLAIMS to be the one true church and the bride of christ. CHRISTS bride, whose hope is to join her bridegroom in heaven, is to have NO WORDLY POSSESIONS or ambitions. Yet the VATICAN is obsessed with earthly enterprise, and has indulged in adultrous relationships with the kings of the earth. A fact supported by Catholic historians!
79

Alberto.,

24/12/2007 15:41:58
After seeing how the 'Blair Partnership' operates - (Mr & predominantly Mrs.) over the last memorable (or should that be never to be forgotten!) decade, it is not too difficult to understand this 'alleged' conversion - or whatever name is attached to it, as nothing more than a look into the future - that is, the Blair financial one (does anything else really matter to this partnership?).

As it seems they will receive a great bulk of their 'donations' from his lecture tours to the 'gullible' American population (surely we’ve heard enough from him!!) - mostly I understand, of the Roman Catholic persuasion (American style naturally!!) it would appear to be a good personal 'Political' decision (maybe his first!) - and nothing more.

It’s the only way Politicians think nowadays - because as we have seen, and are still seeing such behaviour by them - even now, in fact it may well be considered the thing they do best!

This Blair move is perhaps the best of all, and the most blatant one yet, as his 'forte' seemed always, and probably still is - to fool the people that are currently involved in his / their plans of the moment, in order to achieve the result required - a bit like the EU set up!

Currently, from what I read, personal financial disaster is probably looming for the Blairs, and, as one would imagine it is 'Top of the Order of the Day!' and it is sure to be at the forefront of their plans!

Not only that, 'conversion' does have one other great advantage - it seems a nice and easy way to have all his sins washed away - or at least rinsed - in a fashion, and a clean sheet approved as appropriate, and essential for the ‘current job in hand’, by those with the 'heavenly' authority!
80

Pax V,

24/12/2007 15:52:09
Alberto, 85

I think you're applying your low morals, materialistism and hypocrisy to Tony Blair.

I have seen nothing to suggest Tony is converting to the one true faith for anything other than noble reasons.
81

Pax V,

24/12/2007 15:53:30
Media 1, 84

Surely it's better to post on topics you have some knowledge of?

Your #84 exposes only your ignorance of the topic. You'd have been better remaining silent.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 15:54:56
Yoric, 83

War Criminal, eh?

Who decided that, and when? Was it reported on the BBC?

More la la land nonsense....
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 15:58:43
JG, 80

Does this intolerance extend to concern re Gordon Broon deferring to his Church in Edinburgh?

And were you concerned that Maggie or John Major might defer to Anglican leadership?

Just wanting to understand the boundaries of your intolerance.....if there are any.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:02:25
Stoo, 79

Surely it's the INTOLERANCE that causes the bother, Stoo?

If I believe in JC.....then what's it to you, pal?
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King Billy,

Boyne Wattir 24/12/2007 16:02:56
It is impossible for a Catholic to be Prime Minister as he/she will place his/her religion before their country. My old dad once said, if a Catholic has to choose between fighting and dieing for their religion or their country, they will ALWAYS choose their religion.

Their religion will always be first and that is totally contrary to the democratic process.
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 24/12/2007 16:04:37
It's nobody's business, except Tony Blair's?

What was it Samuel Johnston said:

"The Scots common people are a little race with
pygmy intellects. Inbred, parochial, self-righteous, religious bigots! They are now obssessed with the Presbyterian form of bleak worship, and yet only a few years ago they were amongst the most devout Romanists in the Catholic world. Since the Reformation, the Scots are so parsimonious, that congregations still drink out of the same communion cup, and do not realise that they are two sides of the same religious coin!"
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:19:44
Billy, 91

Like many others, Billy, your dad was teaching you to be an anti Catholic bigot. Bigotry is taught at home, by bigots like yer da.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:21:38
Billy, 91

Let's exercise your flawed "logic" a wee bit, Billy.

Gordon Broon is a son of the Manse.

Does that prevent him from being a good PM?
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Stoo,

24/12/2007 16:21:42
"Surely it's the INTOLERANCE that causes the bother, Stoo?"

Indeed and your intolerance is clear to all.

"If I believe in JC.....then what's it to you, pal?"

Nothing.

"What was it Samuel Johnston said:"

Cue English bigotry at its worst.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:22:42
Lachie, 92

Good quote. Highly entertaining.....and more than a morsel of truth in it!
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:23:59
Stoo, 95

If MY intolerance is clear, can you provide an example? Just ONE?

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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:29:28
Stoo, 95

Just had a quick look back at your "performance" here. It's pretty disgusting, Stoo. Lots of good examples of INTOLERANCE from you, Stoo.

Hang yer head in shame, Stoo. It's time our beautiful wee country climbed out of those sewers and embraced civilisation. Intolerant neanderthals like you shame Scotland.
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Stoo,

24/12/2007 16:29:59
Your history on this site over many many months.

But a fine one today is your one true faith quote - catlik intolerance at its best.
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Ross Fyffe,

24/12/2007 16:31:10
Pax V if your daughther got skipped up by an Isslamic school pal would you accept it if she wanted to bring it up under the Islamic faith??/
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:36:49
Stoo, 99

ONE example of my alleged intolerance? No?

Just sad to see you're unwilling to allow me MY OPINION that my Church is the "one true faith".

Were I trying to impose that on others - THAT would be intolerance - but I'm not.

Live and let live, Stoo - STOP THE BIGOTRY PLEASE, STOO - FOR SCOTLAND'S SAKE.
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JG,

Fife 24/12/2007 16:38:19
#89 Pax
Read what Anne Widdecombe was quoted as saying in this article. Looks like a person is only entitled to his own opinion as long as he's not a member of "The Church", then he has to look up what the Pope thinks. I'm not at all intolerant - you go to whatever church you like - I didn't vote for it though and have no interest in what the head of such a misogynistic organisation has to say.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:38:59
Ross F, 100

My daughter is 8, Ross....

Anyway....if in 15 years time she wants to bring up her child as an Islamic, then that of course is her prerogative.

How about YOUR dauighter bringing up a child as a Catholic?
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:44:54
JG, 102

Sorry to put the truth in front of your post, JG:

I'm a devout Catholic.

I have my own opinions.

The Church is my moral compass.

I am not its servant.

Generally guys...you're just looking for justifications for you sundry bigotries.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:45:43
Still struggling, Stoo?

Not even ONE example?

Then WHY make such a STUPID comment?
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Stoo,

24/12/2007 16:48:26
I gave you an example bigot, isnt it about time you were out being a good xian instead of spreading your hatred here?
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WL,

livingston 24/12/2007 16:48:38
I don't think that Tony Blair is the first Anglican to Catholicism. So why all this V.I.P. treatment?
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Mary of Argyll,

Bathgate 24/12/2007 16:53:01
Re. Comment 15. Well said. I agree and only wish I could have been a fly on the wall while Tony was making his confession. I doubt he knew the exact amount of innocent life lost in Irac that he's responsible for, but I'm sure his Maker will - I can only hope that the purgatory he is heading for will adequately reflect his crimes.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:53:57
But Stoo, you didnt give me ANY example.

I'm ENTITLED to my view - that Catholicism is the one true faith. YOUR efforts to suppress views I'm ENTITLED to hold is a good example of YOUR intolerance. Shame on you, stoo.

STOP THE BIGOTRY, PLEASE, STOO - FOR SCOTLAND'S SAKE.
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dme,

UNITED STATES 24/12/2007 16:54:26
*Please enter your comment* i'm cfrom the united states and i am a practicing catholic and i do believe the pope is infallable in matters of faith and morals, and i believe that he is the successor to st. peter. the . as for anyone saying that tony blair could not be effective in parliment as a catholic or in any position in politics that is ludicrous! people here in the united states were afraid to vote for president kennedy in the 60's because they thought he would defer to the pope! how absurb! anyway i think it is great he is now a catholic god bless him, and my next and last thought is i never realized how secular england is. any way, i will pray for all of you and i hope all of you have a very merry christmas and a happy new year.
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Pax V,

24/12/2007 16:56:34
Mary, 108

Another ignorance fed comment re the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession)

Mary, on topics you know little about, it's usually best to remain silent.
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Ross Fyffe,

Scotland 24/12/2007 16:56:52
Mary of Bathgate just as the catholic church forgave the sins of the IRA they surley must forgive Tony or does your bigotry only seyt out for those you dont like
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Stoo,

24/12/2007 16:57:56
How am I suppressing your ramblings? I am pointing out it's a fine example of intolerance.

Now, what would JC be doing tonight on Xmas Eve? Being a good xian or spreading bile on this site?