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Published Date: 05 February 2008
NEW cars which do less than 35 miles to the gallon should be banned to help tackle climate change, according to a former chairman of the oil giant Shell.
Sir Mark Moody-Stuart urged the move as an alternative to higher fuel taxes, which he said would be unfair on rural drivers and poorer people who needed their cars.

The proposal was attacked by the motor industry as "bizarre". It estimated that mo
re than one in three models would fail the proposed fuel efficiency threshold. They include some versions of popular cars such as the Volkswagen Beetle, Citroen C4 and Peugeot 307, though diesel engined cars have lower fuel consumption than the equivalent petrol models.

It is also thought that the 35mpg limit would be tougher than the 130g/km carbon dioxide emissions limit for cars proposed by the European Commission from 2012.

Sir Mark, chairman of the United Nations' Foundation for the Global Compact, which raises money to improve sustainability, said: "We need very tough regulation saying that you can't drive or build something less than a certain standard. You would be allowed to drive an Aston Martin – but only if it did 50-60mpg."

He said making people with less fuel-efficient cars pay more in road and fuel tax would simply let the rich avoid taking responsibility for tackling climate change.

Sir Mark, who left Shell in 2001 and is now also chairman of mining group Anglo American, said of his plan: "You can buy the roomiest, vroomiest car, as long as it meets the efficiency standard. We have driven a hybrid since 2001 and it is a beautiful piece of engineering."

The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, which represents the UK industry, said Sir Mark's call was not helpful.

A spokeswoman said: "This is a really bizarre proposal. If we are trying to reduce emissions, it should not be confused by using other measurements. Our priority is to reduce , which will have the knock-on effect of improving engine efficiencies."

The Department for Transport agreed that was a better target. A spokeswoman said the government's strategy to make transport greener included negotiating to set compulsory long-term targets to cut emissions from new cars.

She said: " emissions and miles per gallon are both related, but emissions are a more direct indicator of environmental performance, used across Europe and wider. Therefore, that is what we work with."

Neil Greig, the director of policy for the Institute of Advanced Motorists' Motoring Trust in Scotland, also attacked an mpg-based ban.

He said: "Real progress in reducing emissions requires a combination of incentives for new technology, improved alternatives to the car and behavioural change such as more awareness of eco-driving techniques.

"Incentives and education will deliver better fuel consumption far more quickly than any headline grabbing blanket bans."

The European Commission proposed a maximum of 120g/km emissions for new cars from 2012, compared to the current 160g/km average.

However, it increased the limit to 130g/km following industry lobbying.

The remaining 10g/km saving is to come from technological improvements, such as bio-fuels and better tyres.

London unveils £200 fine for polluting lorries

LONDON has signalled the way for possible further clampdowns on urban motoring in Britain by being the first city to fine heavy lorries that cause pollution.

The city's new low-emission zone, which came into force yesterday, will see hauliers being charged £200 if they fail to meet emission standards.

The zone covers most of Greater London and is aimed at cutting harmful pollution, which has made the city one of the most polluted capitals in western Europe. Central London has already pioneered a congestion charge – now £8 a day – for most drivers.

Similar plans for Edinburgh were emphatically rejected in a local referendum, but other English cities may take part in road-charging pilot schemes.

Transport for London said that 2,500 of the 23,000 heavy lorries driving into the city each day did not meet the required standard.

It said the scheme would be extended to other vehicles in July, including other lorries, buses, coaches and caravans weighing more than 3.5 tonnes. Vans and minibuses would follow in 2012.

Environmentalists and health campaigners support the scheme, but some business leaders are furious.

The zone involves 75 new camera sites and ten mobile units. It has cost £49 million to establish and will cost up to £9 million a year to run. It is forecast that fines of £2 million a year will be levied.



The full article contains 765 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 04 February 2008 10:08 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

W Smith,

Middle East 05/02/2008 04:53:40
Salmond promises 'freedom' from Westminster, he just forgot to mention he'll kow-tow to the wacko Scottish eco-nutcases.

The Scottish 'Greens' now have leverage over the SNP which allows them to exert an influence beyond any actual support from the public.

So much for Holyrood 'democracy'.
2

Samcafe,

Glasgow 05/02/2008 06:04:59
Oh read the article before blowing it out. The comments were made by the former chairman of the oil giant Shell and endorsed by Sir Mark Moody-Stuart Sir Mark, chairman of the United Nations' Foundation for the Global Compact. Why should the rich be able to buy their way out of their social responsibilities.
3

Julian.,

edinburgh 05/02/2008 06:18:33
#1,

And what's this got to do with Salmond? Leaving aside the fact that him or the SNP aren't mentioned and that he needs a lot more than a couple of Green votes,I doubt this is even in Holyrood's power to do this anyway.
4

KennethM,

Livingston/Stockholm 05/02/2008 07:09:35
How about using l/100 km instead of this ridiculously antiquated mpg? Or, Johnston Press, if you insist on using mpg, then why not at least provide the figure in l/100 km as well?

Fuel hasn't been sold by the gallon in the UK for many, many years now, so what on earth is the deal with this ridiculous way of measuring fuel consumption?

http://www.metricviews.org.uk/2007/10/18/how-convert-fuel-figures/
5

an interested party,

05/02/2008 07:30:50
becuase the cars are in miles and the road signs are in miles, most people seem to find it easier to convert litres to gallons rather than kilometres to miles.

either way there is no easy straight convertible measure for the masses

and anyway its only its test figure on a test track (35 mpg) not its real life average. much like hybrids which in ideal condition do a high mpg but in reality dont.

the 35 mpg figure come straight from the US who proposed the self same idea last week, go rich oil exec and yer knew idea
6

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 05/02/2008 08:00:02
It actually produces a bigger carbon footprint to make a new (fuel efficient) car than it does to keep an old less fuel efficient car on the road.
7

Kate,

Zurich 05/02/2008 08:02:01
#2 Samcafe, actually the former chairman of Shell, Sir Mark Moody-Stuart and Sir Mark chairman of the United Nations' Foundation for the Global Compact are all one and the same person...:).

It might be a tad bizarre to some people but something has to be done and improving fuel efficiency is definitely a way forward. It is not the solution but there is no one single solution. We all have to look at how we live, do we really need to drive 200 yards to the shop, bank, post office or whatever for example? It would do us and the environment so much good to walk more or get on our bikes!
8

sceptic,

05/02/2008 08:03:03
Are we supposed to take this guy seriously? We didn't hear this story when he had his chauffeur driven gas guzzler while he was busy deceiving shareholders signing off Shell's falsified oil and gas reserve claims
9

Unimpressed one,

05/02/2008 08:17:12
#2, doesn't make any difference who made the comments. Garbage is garbage.
10

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 05/02/2008 08:20:28
It doesn't matter how fuel efficient your car is, if you sit in a traffic jam, like most of us have to do, then your mpg goes down very quickly.
11

McMicrogal,

05/02/2008 08:34:52
Interesting to note that the remarks on MPG come from Stockholm (I am sure you can enjoy referring to it as l/100km in the safety of Sweden without us moaning at you) and the call to get on your bike comes from Zurich where a very good and efficient tram system exists.

I an not suggesting you don't have a right to an opinion, but please remember that you are there and we are here and the situation is different.
12

Old Siggy,

Dunbar 05/02/2008 08:55:20
# 12. If you have a hybrid car such as the Toyota Prius, when you sit in a traffic jam, the engine cuts out thus using zero petrol. It restarts automatically when you move forward - clever eh!! I think all car manufacturers should be forced to produce hybrid cars, the benefit to the environment and your wallet would be huge.
#9 Maximum speed of 50mph!! You clearly don't do much travelling either that or you have lots of time on your hands.
13

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 05/02/2008 09:09:16
No. 14:- Sounds really good, but if you were to use it on the M62 your engine would be on and off like the proverbial prostitute's knickers. Your battery would soon be goosed.
14

sceptic,

05/02/2008 09:16:18
"If you have a hybrid car such as the Toyota Prius, when you sit in a traffic jam, the engine cuts out thus using zero petrol"
Yes, and when you drive down the motorway it uses more petrol than the equivalent non- hybrid car.These hidiously heavy, expensive, toxic batteries have to be lugged around and replaced every 5 years. They also occupy so much space a second car is need for holidays and carrying materials. No reason not to switch any engine off in a traffic jam. Why buy a Prius when there are plenty of more fuel efficient cheaper non hybrid cars? Of course the poor value for money expensive Prius's are mainly bought by the likes of Arnold Schwarzenneger for publicity purposes and kept in the garage while he drives one of his 10 Hummers.
15

Grumpy,

05/02/2008 09:31:30
Is the 35MPG using US or UK measurements? UK gallon = 1.2US, therefore 35MPG US is equal to about 42MPG UK.

It'll put out to grass the entire government executive car fleet - most of which struggle to beat 25mg UK! (Especially when used to only travel 200 yards and sit for half an hour with the engine running........!)
16

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 05/02/2008 09:45:50
This is just a knee-jerk reaction by a former employee of Shell in the wake of the so-called "outrage" regarding their recent profits report.
17

Bascule,

Nirvana 05/02/2008 09:46:34
Set a mandatory standard, and people will achieve it. Why all the whingeing anyway? Have you notice how much it costs to fill your tank nowadays? How about VAT and Road Tax relief for people who adapt older cars to meet new standards?

#17 I hate to agree with the simple truth, but you're right. Many years ago I used to commute to Aberdeen. If I left late and hammered up the road, hitting 100 in stretches and rarely dropping below 85, my average speed was only a few MPH different from my usual cruise. I spent an hour and a half worrying about being caught for speeding and arrived, unrelaxed, 11 minutes earlier than normal. Lesson learned.
18

Neil,

Glasgow 05/02/2008 11:07:15
The things people will say when they are sniffing for a Lordship.
19

Joey Pica,

Abject Poverty, South of the Border. 05/02/2008 11:33:11
If I sell my 17 MPG vehicle and buy a new 60 MPG Toyota Prius - I will use about 70% less petrol, the govenment will get vat on a 17k car as opposed to an upwards of £35 grand. Wonder where the treasury will find the short fall in the revenue?
20

BK,

Glasgow 05/02/2008 11:36:42
It sounds like a very sensible suggestion. Anything that would drive4 the horrible Chelsea Tractors and huge unnecessary BMWs and Volvos off the road would be a good thing. Although I often, out of necessity, drive alone in my car, it is a small 60mpg diesel model using only about a quarter of the fuel of these monsters. Stupid and selfish nouveaux riche five foot tall blonde bimbos who cannot see properly over the bonnet do not need vehicles for the school run which are designed to cross the Sahara desert.
21

Mikey,

05/02/2008 12:03:07
#23, the same place they replace the revenue afforded by smokers! From non smokers and non drivers pockets!
22

JayJay,

Right here 05/02/2008 12:04:15
#23 has hit on a pretty significant point. If everyone did not fill their car with fuel for one month, G Broon's finances would be in utter turmoil.
Believe what you will about global warming. For me, its just another tax wheeze, and I retain the right to continue to believe that whilst the government busies itself building new terminals and runways at Heathrow. If Broon is looking at the same news I am he'd be telling BAA to reduce the number of planes and cutting back on air travel. But he isn't doing that, and he isn't making any significant investment in public transport.
Instead, the poor sap punter faces the choice of nae public transport (if he or she lives outside major conurbations), expensive public transport if he or she finds it (it is now nearly £18 to travel at peak times between Glasgow and Edinburgh) or steps in a car to pay £1 per litre for fuel, knowing 70% of that goes straight back to Broon.
The Government is taking the proverbial. Its a real Hobsons choice for Joe Public and it really surprises me people are falling for the spin.
23

Proximaking,

Dundee 05/02/2008 12:06:10
Vroom? What has he been reading lately?

http://www.bloggernews.net/112924

24

Lock,

05/02/2008 12:32:18
What does he drive?
25

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 05/02/2008 15:04:55
I went to buy a diesel 4 years ago but would have had to pay £2k more for the diesel model, so as I'm no longer a high mileage driver I bought the petrol model on the basis that £2k would buy me a lot of fuel. Since then the price of fuel has doubled so my savings are not going to be as high as hoped. Apart from all of that, as soon as I win the lottery I'll be right down to the nearest Bentley dealer. If this sort of idea became legislation it's only time before we're all like the Chinese in days of Chairman Mao, no choice of anything even down to the number of children each family will be allowed to have.
26

Reckless,

Fife 05/02/2008 18:04:56
It's the EU.
27

Bien E. Bien,

05/02/2008 18:15:44
I own a 6.0 litre V12 Jaguar which has hideous fuel economy, but which also only gets taken out of the garage once every couple of weeks for a Sunday drive. This is my only car and I walk to work.

I fail to see how such a vehicle is any worse for the environment than a small car which may give 45mpg, but which is driven 400 miles a week.
28

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05/02/2008 18:54:34
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29

Destroy the Planet,

05/02/2008 20:23:55
Enjoy yersels people ! Weel aw be deed afore the shoit hits the fan anyway
30

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 05/02/2008 20:43:47
My Rangey does the equivalent of 35mpg...but then it is LPG converted.
31

Itchy,

05/02/2008 22:46:06
"17 Rulesbutnotrulers
#9 50 mph IS plenty. Next time you go to Embra get a pal to leave at the same time. One travels at 70 max the other at 50 max."

Get lost you fascist.

This 35 mpg idea is a load of wash as well.
32

The Corbetteer,

Borders 06/02/2008 00:16:28
Great idea but a bit unworkable, what might work though, have two classes of vehicles, "Personal Transport", and "Special Purpose" to qualify as personal transport the vehicle must produce less than 150g of co2 per km. All other vehicles i.e."Special Purpose" must be fitted with a 56mph speed limiter as currently fitted to HGV's
So, if you need a 500bhp Porsche 4x4 to take the kids to school then that is OK you just couldn't go above 56mph, I would guess in a few month there wouldn’t be many monster 4x4s left on the road!

 

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