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Published Date: 20 October 2008
Newly-released Ministry of Defence (MoD) files reveal a passenger jet approaching London had a near miss with an unidentified flying object.
The captain was so startled by the experience, he shouted "look out" to his co-pilot, after seeing a brown missile-shaped object shoot past overhead.

Despite investigations by the military and aviation authorities, no explanation could be found,
and the inquiry wound down, leaving the matter unsolved to this day.

The encounter was among a flurry of incidents in British airspace in the spring and summer of 1991, part of MoD documents charting supposed brushes with the unknown throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s which has been made available by the National Archives.

It is, however, the experience of the crew aboard an Alitalia flight that is the most intriguing. Having set off from Milan on 21 April, the airliner was over Lydd in Kent, coming in to land at Heathrow Airport. Flying at 22,000ft with 57 passengers on board, Achille Zaghetti, spotted the strange object some 1,000ft above him at about 8pm.

"At once I said, 'look out, look out,' to my co-pilot, who looked out and saw what I had seen," he recalled.

"As soon as the object crossed us I asked the ACC (area control centre] operator if he saw something on his screen and he answered 'I see an unknown target ten nm (nautical miles] behind you'."

Mr Zaghetti and his crew on the McDonnell Douglas MD80 aircraft were not the only people to catch sight of an unusual object in the skies above Kent that evening 17 years ago.

A Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) document notes that Southern TV broadcast a news item about a 14-year-old boy's reported sighting of a missile flying at low level, before it disappeared through the clouds.



Radar images showing the UFO were initially labelled "cruise missile??" but it was quickly established it was not a military weapon.

By 2 July, the MoD had concluded that the object had not come from the Army firing ranges in the Lydd area and that there was no known "space-related activity" that night.

An unnamed Whitehall mandarin wrote of the incident: "It is our intention to treat this sighting like that of any other unidentified flying object and therefore we will not be undertaking further investigation."

Less than two months later, another sighting came in the south-east of England, when on 17 June, four passengers on board a Dan Air Boeing 737 reported seeing a "wingless projectile" pass beneath their aircraft, which was ascending from Gatwick Airport, bound for Hamburg.

Air traffic control at Gatwick saidthat it was "unaware of anything unusual occurring at that time".

On 15 July, the pilot of a Britannia Airways 737 reported seeing a "small black lozenge-shaped object" travelling at speed on the approach to Gatwick.

An investigation found that the object "did not seem to fit any recognisable piece of aviation equipment" and failed to reach a firm conclusion.

Handout image issued by the National Archives of an incident report detailing the moments when an Alitalia passenger jet coming in to land at Heathrow Airport had a near miss with a UFO.
Handout image issued by the National Archives of an incident report detailing the moments when an Alitalia passenger jet coming in to land at Heathrow Airport had a near miss with a UFO.


Dr David Clarke, a UFO expert and journalism lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University, said such documents would shed new light on relatively little-known sightings.

NOW THEY'RE OUT THERE

A FORMER US Air Force fighter pilot was convinced he encountered a spaceship over the skies of Britain in the 1950s.

Newly released Ministry of Defence files reveal Milton Torres was told to intercept a UFO with "very unusual flight patterns" over East Anglia, before it suddenly disappeared.

The files also reveal the MoD tried to stop military helicopter crews photographing crop circles for fear it contradicted the official line that it had no interest in the phenomenon.

They also publish for the first time eccentric letters from people who claim to be from alien races. The correspondence includes one woman's claim that her spaceship came down in Britain during the Second World War and was recovered by the military.









The full article contains 672 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 19 October 2008 11:57 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: UFOs
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/10/2008 00:17:25

"Is anyone out-there"?
"Is anyone out-there"?

Yes me!

Yes Who?

Yes me Boy Wonder, who is a pain, for you know who!

Anyway I don't doubt the fact, that extra terrestrial beings other than our Boy Wonder, are 'Out-There' but seeing is believing, as in ghosts for example.

Looks like the, Scotsman News, believe in all this speculation though, judging by the detailed report above in the article! :))

All I want for there to be 'Out-There' is loads of Babes, who will pamper me! :))


2

Conan the Librarian™,

20/10/2008 00:45:23
Charles, everything comes down to sex with you;-)
3

Douglas,

Bathgate 20/10/2008 00:49:43
And he can take on all comers, single handed.
4

Willie Macleod,

Wick 20/10/2008 01:15:33
#2 Conan I will give you better reply to last nights Starkey historian post.
Yes he does need a slap about the face with a wet fish.

I was listening to Arthur Lees love and other sixties music and having a few glasses of the water of life at the time.



5

Scullion,

Canada 20/10/2008 01:23:13
Brown missile shaped object? The pilot hadn't just released the contents of the onboard toilets, had he?
6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/10/2008 02:05:52


HOY! Conan the Librarian, Douglas, Willie Macleod, #2/3/4,

Diney get Wide! :))
7

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/10/2008 02:06:17


HOY! Conan the Librarian, Douglas, Willie Macleod, #2/3/4,

Diney get Wide! :))
8

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/10/2008 02:07:17


HOY! Conan the Librarian, Douglas, Willie Macleod, #2/3/4,

Dinney get Wide! :))
9

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 20/10/2008 03:18:06

Soo the 'Aliens' are here then!

Up to mischievous games on these threads, I only posted once, but the above shows 3,

'Aye' Ya better all watch the sky, I tell you!
10

Stewart_in_Oz,

Alexandra Hills 20/10/2008 04:47:04
Sounds a bit like, "Patient suffering from Too Much Fun. Substance Unknown"
Were the people anoxic at the time?
11

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 20/10/2008 05:55:56
"a brown missile-shaped object "

These sightings can be easily explained. They are not sightings of extraterrestrials but are in fact a UFO. Unionist Flying Object.

These are just the earliest sightings of the Sub-Prime Minister "SuperBrownMan."

He has since decided to reveal his true identity when he single handedly saved the world.

Early sightings of a Brown Missile Shaped object can be explained by the fact that when he is flying just below the speed of light the Red White and Blue of his Butchers Apron Cape appear as a Brown smudge.
12

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada - ex Perth & Glesca' 20/10/2008 06:16:31
#1 - Chuckles Linskaill, Edinburgh.

Does your DYW know that you are posting on here soliciting for "Loads of Babes to pamper you"? You, at your advanced years should be totally ashamed of yourself, in my opinion.
Why do you keep on bad-mouthing Wonder Boy when he is not even here to defend himself...too scared to say the things you do, to his face, right?
You are getting yourself a real bad name by your back-stabbing...I suppose you've missed your Meds again!!
Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
13

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada- ex Perth & Glesca' 20/10/2008 06:22:12
Correction to #13...Sorry Boy Wonder I put the Wonder before the Boy in the above post...No insult intended, unlike Chuckles' post about you.
Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
14

Ninian Reid,

Edinburgh Airport 20/10/2008 06:26:06
Flight of fantasy ?
15

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20/10/2008 06:53:52
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20/10/2008 06:54:29
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Guga II,

Rockall 20/10/2008 06:58:29
#11.

You are just confirming what we all knew.
18

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20/10/2008 07:03:44
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20/10/2008 07:25:25
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 20/10/2008 07:26:22
I would say that if we are going to get invaded by aliens they had better be smarter than those who run the world at present or they are going to be in real trouble
21

Boy Wonder,

20/10/2008 07:39:19
#13/#14. Haggis MacBagpipes ... I don't owe you any money, do I??
Don't worry about Old Chuckles. The truth is not just out there, but also messing with his dementia. The old boy stil thinks he can impress chicks ... but only if he falls on them!!!

As for UFOs ... pilots are trained observers. Like so may others, who are not complete lunatics like #11 BTO, and I trust rthem to know what they are talking about.
Time to take it seriously, people. We are NOT alone ... we never have been. The Universe is teeming with alien life and new civilisations. They are just waiting for the human race to grow up and put away chilsdish things like superstition, war and religion! Then we'll get to meet them.
22

Evan Owen,

Snowdonia 20/10/2008 07:43:37
The aliens are in charge of Parliament, they have a Scottish accent, on no account should you vote for them.
23

Anton,

Porto Sant'Elpidio 20/10/2008 08:30:56
Too much Chianti onboard Alitalia aircrafts :-))

No, seriously, do you all think that if the military were testing some new trick they would candidly say: "Oh yeah, that was our ultrasecret XKY254 M2A3 intelligent cruise missile" or something like that?
*Unidentified* means just that... not identified. Flying saucers, alien abductions and the like are just the fruit of deranged minds.

Boy Wonder, has it ever occurred to you that the part of UFOism which relates to "alien civilizations" IS a religion (as it is purely based on *faith*)?
24

Douglas,

Bathgate 20/10/2008 08:31:22
#10 Stewart in Oz: No mate, all practising Catholics. :o)
25

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20/10/2008 08:37:22
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Ghost Of Scotland Past,

20/10/2008 08:41:30
11) How do you know that you are the only one earthling?

I can tell you that you are all well of the mark, This
information has been released as a diversion from the fact that it is those of us amoung you, whom your puny
technology cannot detect, that you should be concerning
yourselves about. Fear not it is already too late and in any case we are only here to save your second rate M class planet from yourselves, then you will be able to continue on your course of misguided self destructive
stupidity, hypocrisy, and blind greed.
We prepare for that which we know will come, humanity is of no importance to us, so don't let your over inflated self importance lead you to imagine that you
can prevent the inevitable, or stop us.
27

donald,

glasgow 20/10/2008 08:50:37
Was it the Brown Bomber on the way to being debriefed by his US banker friends?
28

BorderLineScottish,

20/10/2008 09:11:01
Where's Nevsky?? Has he been abducted?
29

Queen D,

Glasgow 20/10/2008 09:15:25
A wee distraction from the MoD ,so that you don't concentrate too much on the coroners verdict?
That the MoD are doing their worst for the troops that this Government put in the danger zone of their own creation?
30

Evan Owen,

Snowdonia 20/10/2008 09:15:49
Joe-Kerr

My experience of Scottish politicians is not something that I would wish to repeat whether they are in the real Parliament in London or in the pretend version in Scottyland, or Welsh Wales for that matter.

The Scots are infiltrating every thing, even the Isle of Man Parliament!

Not doing a very good job are they??
31

Survivor Of Riots,

20/10/2008 09:23:58
I often attribute mans inability to conquer space to a complete lack of drawing skills.

If you look at those 2 sketches above, clearly there is no way that we stand a chance of going beyond our current limitations.

Which, by the way, do not include a visit to the moon.

Theres a sham if ever there was one!
32

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20/10/2008 10:35:30
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Ghost Of Scotland Past,

20/10/2008 11:40:38
Probably best to ignore the two creationist wind up merchants at 34 @ 35 above, my blood pressure won't take it anymore. I'm fed up arguing with those ignoramouses.
34

Black Five,

edinburgh 20/10/2008 12:33:08
In 1964 when driving south,my mate and myself witnessed a sight which was unexplainable.It was a long light in the sky about half a mile ahead.It was not a plane.This was near Scunthorpe and sometime about 1995 I read in a paper that area was a hotspot for U F O `s.So there you are.Don`t ask me what...I don`t believe in them but it was very strange to say the least.
35

Silence of the Yams,

20/10/2008 12:47:09
There is a lot more to this subject than the public are told, but there are so many fantasists out there that it makes the cover up easier to maintain and poke fun at.
36

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

20/10/2008 13:04:10
37) Says it all really, He saw something flying, he did not know what it was, but he wouldn't risk ridiculing
himself here if he was at all doubtful.
Well is it not obviously an unidentified flying object.
But he does not believe in them in spite of the evidence of his own eyes???????
37

stellarossa,

Cincinnati, OH 20/10/2008 13:23:46
I want to Believe: RAF Bentwaters 1980
38

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 20/10/2008 14:10:33
'An unnamed Whitehall mandarin wrote of the incident: "It is our intention to treat this sighting like that of any other unidentified flying object and therefore we will not be undertaking further investigation."'

Of course, if it had been an identifiable object, they wouldn't need to undertake further investigation.

The real mystery is why we have to employ so many civil servants to do nothing at such vast expense.
39

Lianachan,

Highlands 20/10/2008 15:00:29
A UFO is just, after all, an Unidentified Flying Object. That is, the people that see it can't identify it. It doesn't mean that a different observer wouldn't have been able to, and it certainly doesn't follow that it must be something to do with aliens! The extraterrestrial hypothesis should not be used as a safety-net assumption, if no identification can be made. In fact, if something can be definately proven to be related to aliens then it's no longer unidentified, and as such is no longer a UFO in the first place!
40

jerrymanders,

20/10/2008 15:07:28
#41

"The real mystery is why we have to employ so many civil servants to do nothing at such vast expense."

They're posting on here!
41

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Ghost Of Scotland Past,

20/10/2008 15:40:54
44) No, It's only you, misguided earthling.
No one is interested in the opinions of someone who
extols others to vote for a bunch of self interested
nutters
43

Dan DDS,

Rocky River, Ohio 20/10/2008 16:00:33
It appears rather strange that, while these objects are seen on RADAR, they seem never to be tracked further onward, passed on to other RADAR centers if necessary.
44

Dave in the US,

St. Louis 20/10/2008 16:23:49
There seem to be things seen that we can't explain. What astounds me is that there are unseen things that many folks seem to know a lot about. Go figure!
45

Black Five,

edinburgh 20/10/2008 16:24:33
To elaborate on my story posted.In fact me and my mate ( we were 18 at the time ) stoped in a lay by outside Scunthorpe.We were going to have a kip but as you know you don`t sleep well ina car.At about 3 in the morning I looked ahead ,it was like looking down a road between trees,the road was like a clearing.Anyhow this large bright long object went very slowly by the clearing.I thought what was that.Then my mate who I thought was sleeping said ..did you see that...I said yes.He then said what do you think it was .I said don`t know .If there is U F O`s out there and I still think there can`t be,that was one.It was something I`ve never seen again.
46

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

20/10/2008 17:23:31
48) Why the elaboration, you saw but you don't believe.
don't you trust your eyes.
47

RSBuff,

The US of A 20/10/2008 17:24:03
Ground Control to Major Tom: We're issuing a BOLO for Sir Elton in full attire cruising at altitude angels 10... Over.

Major Tom: He is a Rocket Man... Burning out his fuse up here alone.
48

Guga II,

Rockall 20/10/2008 18:19:20
#47 Dave.

As you fellow countryman, Donald Rumsfeld, put it:

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; these are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns, that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know."
49

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

20/10/2008 19:00:59
Ah Confusus he say

He who knows and knows he knows he is a wise man heed him
He who knows and knows not he knows he is a Scholar teach him
He who knows not and knows he knows not he is a child teach him
he who knows not and knows not he knows not he is a fool shun him
50

Ananurhing,

20/10/2008 19:26:31
Two years ago past september, I got home late one beautiful starry night at about 1.30am. I hadn't had a drink. I opened a beer and sat outside. I was gazing at the clear sky when a small insignificant point of light gradually grew brighter till it was the brightest thing in the sky. Then suddenly it diminished till it disappeared. I had the impression it had moved away from me fast.

I was left gaping at the spot it had occupied, trying to convince myself it was explainable. Then I saw a similar light moving across the sky. I reassured myself that at least I knew that was a satellite. See them all the time. It then did a slow U turn, just like satellites don't, stopped at the same spot as the first light, then did exactly the same thing.

I make no claims for what I saw, but it was very strange.
51

Humphrey,

Eastleigh UK 20/10/2008 19:27:00
#35 obligor

As there is no air or atmosphere on the moon, some means were necessary to display the flag. This was achieved by fixing the top of the flag to a length of coil spring. As the spring with flag was deployed, the oscillations in the coil spring gave the illusion of fluttering. This continued until the oscillations damped out.
52

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/10/2008 20:52:40
I suspect the real UFOs are archived from the Undeclarable File Out-tray.

Reminds me of Santa Claus. A story for the masses to deflct from the reality - by election.
53

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20/10/2008 20:52:58
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C. Haynes,

Boise 20/10/2008 21:29:45
OMG
55

uridevliegh,

Roslin 20/10/2008 21:34:45
I enjoy the readers comments on all Scotsman articles. Informed personal comments provide an opportunity to take an article further. The Linksail Brigade, however, seems to have a view on every article and is spoiling this opportunity for the majority of readers. Could nothing be done to ban or at least limit their input?
56

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 20/10/2008 21:46:32
58, uridevliegh. You can enjoy the story and scroll down with your comment. If you are a single issue person, please understand that many posters have a broad spectrum on interests and views.

Perhaps you should google for an anoraks UFO website - I am sure you will find a Sol Ace there.
57

Rabhairt,

Cannons Creek Australia 21/10/2008 00:56:05
Seeing the UFO was brown it may have been "A CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE TURD KIND.
58

Rothiemurchus 55,

USA 21/10/2008 05:37:32
UFO's....Aliens....Unexplained phenomenon....Just more great entertainment before the really great show....X-Files......Where all the secrets of Area 51 are brought to light.....Thanks for all your comments. It has been great fun to read on a night 2 weeks before the new "brown" president gets elected here....Maybee Obama was doing a fly-over????
59

Friar Tuck,

Milky Way 21/10/2008 20:21:19
There are millions of stars in the sky. Each one of them is a sun, similar to our sun, with planets orbiting around it. It stands to reason that out of the billions & billions of planets, at least one must be inhabited, just like the one I come from.

 

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