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Edinburgh airport motorway link on the road again



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Published Date: 13 May 2008
A NEW direct road link from the M8 to Edinburgh Airport is back on the cards, according to a blueprint for the west of the city due out today.
The Evening News understands that a revised masterplan for the west of the city will recognise the need for new road capacity in the area.

Plans for the half-mile motorway link to the airport were ruled out in the last draft of the West Edinburgh Planning Framework, published in 2006, when officials from the then Scottish Executive said it would have virtually no impact on traffic levels.

However, the revised framework calls for a full assessment of the transport needs in the area, though stops short of committing to any specific schemes.

It is also understood the new planning framework will back Edinburgh Airport's plans to double in size by 2030 by safeguarding land around the airport for expansion.

Motoring and airport chiefs today welcomed the latest revision of the planning framework.

Neil Greig, head of policy in Scotland for the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: "The M8 link is definitely one they need to look at again.

"The trams will make a difference for travel to the airport but we still need a good roads network serving the airport.

"If you look at the whole stretch around the Gogar Roundabout, the traffic is just getting worse and anything that can relieve congestion around there is to be welcomed.

"It is just a short stretch of road and it could also open up opportunities to make more of the park-and-ride at Ingliston and the tram line itself."

In August last year it emerged that civil servants "forgot" about the massive RBS headquarters at Gogarburn when they first dismissed proposals for the M8 link road. Officials rejected the plan after judging that it would have virtually no impact on traffic levels.

But it emerged that the decision failed to take into account the 90-acre RBS site, which opened in 2005, and plans for other major developments nearby.

The initial calculations made by the officials suggested the proposed link road would cut congestion in the area by just one per cent.

However, revised predictions – taking into account the Royal Bank HQ and the other expected development in the area – show it is likely to cut traffic levels by 14 per cent.

Improving the single road access is a high priority for airport bosses, given the current problems with tailbacks at busy times. If an M8 link does go ahead then it is thought the new road, which has still to be priced, would go between the Claylands and Hermiston junctions on the M8 north to the A8, somewhere between the airport and the RBS HQ.

City transport leader Phil Wheeler backed the argument for another link to the airport.

"The tram will be a new public transport offering, but given the state of the present road link, it makes sense to look at augmenting that," he said.

A Scottish Government spokesman said full details of the planning framework would be unveiled today.

www.edinburghairport.com

The full article contains 525 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

Arrow,

edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:22:43
they "forgot" the RBS? aye! right! the biggest development in the green belt after Heriot Watt, generating massive numbers of cars, its own access road and bridge and they forgot!! beggars belief.
2

Corruption____,

13/05/2008 12:22:47
And where do all these cars going along the road end up?

In BAA's expensive car parks!
3

Pond Hall,

13/05/2008 12:45:23
more roads...more cars...more cargestion

and at what cost

Don't worry about Global Warming

Its a Proven Fact..that when you build more roads, they just fill up with cars and your back to square 1.

The M25 is a prime example
4

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:45:29
Roll Up Roll Up.

Lets start asking the tram type questions and get in your objections early.
How much will it cost?
Why is the road needed when there are already two major interchanges linked to the main road network either side of the airport at Gogar & Newbridge?
At the moring peak if coming in from the west the queue goes back past Claylands so the new link will be no benefit as people heading for the airport already come off and go via Newbridge!!
How much public funds will be provided to help access to private businesses,developers and BAA.
What consultants will be on cahoots to get the contracts?
What about the Badgers, Newts etc etc
5

fresian,

edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:49:26
Pond life, building the road isn't the problem, Overdevelopment is the problem. If you don't create a destination( i.e bank HQ,or shopping centre) then there is no need for cars to be there. I for one do not just drive along a road because it is there, I do it to get to where I want to go.
6

fresian,

edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:50:50
Scally, As Badger is no longer Transport Secretary and is now Chancellor, I don't think he will really care
7

Randan,

13/05/2008 12:53:16
All absolutely correct.
This would be another complete waste of money.
Just put a decent surface on the Gyle - Newbridge A8 and the road connections are good enough.
8

Jenny MacArthur,

13/05/2008 12:58:36
Yeah, great. Encourage more traffic, more flying, quicker planetary suicide. Wonderful joined up thinking guys. Not.
9

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 13:00:35
fresin

Who's the newt then?
10

fresian,

edinburgh 13/05/2008 13:06:16
Haven't quite decided, I was thinking wee Wendy, but that would have been quite cruel to some small reptile
11

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 13:15:44
Fresian

A fair shout though all the same.
12

Johnny Yen,

13/05/2008 13:52:03
Is this like the Princes St blueprint......come back and tell when its actually going to happen
13

GBscot,

Idaho Falls 13/05/2008 14:02:12
#3..You will be against the M74 extension then?
14

Edward,

13/05/2008 14:03:14
#3
'Global Warming'??? what that got to do with this???
#8
What has this to do with 'planetary suicide'???

I was wondering how long it would take for the so called scare monger brigade to start spouting the same old rubbish on Global Warming
Especially as the latest IPCC finding have been watered down as its now coming round to the idea that any climate change is purely down to natural changes and not to do with man made gases
also IPCC downgraded the scare stories about a rise in sea levels from the apopolyctic 2 meters to a modest 17 inches in 30 years
15

Chris,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 14:22:01
#3 Pond Hall: The current access road is subject to severe congestion at busy times with a knock-on effect on the A8, and congestion=more stationary traffic=more harmful exhaust fumes. By building a new link road from the M8 this should allow easier, and therefore faster access to the airport car parks and terminals. Ergo, less stationary traffic, less fumes.
16

Victoria Ian,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 14:26:58
This road is required. End of story.
17

Edinburgh 100,

Musselburgh 13/05/2008 15:05:56
The road is need.
The reason why you get congestion is because of poorly laid out/designed roads. look at the Gogarburn roundabout sherrifhall roundabout the new bus lane at the bridge. The usual answer to the design/layout issues is normally covered by the great phrase "we didnt anticipate", the catch all phrase used in most public payed constructtion that cover a multitude of bad ideas/designs. And it normaly ends up costing more money and involving even more bad planning/design ideas to put it supposedly right. Which will then be followed up by "we are looking at new measures to solve the problem, however we are contrained by our budget". It goes on and on
18

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 15:15:14
#1
They also forgot about bus services - Lothian Buses reduced the late night bus services to Heriot Watt in order to provide a service to RBS.

19

Randan,

13/05/2008 15:15:38
Thing is, oil will run out and / or be much more expensive in the next few years and not many of us will be able to afford to fly, so this will be a 1/2 mile white elephant.
20

Andrew,

13/05/2008 15:17:44
When the RBS bridge at Gogar was being built I was MOST impressed - thinking that it was part of the tram line from Edinburgh Park & The Gyle to the airport! FOOD FOR THOUGHT?!?
21

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 15:25:03
#15.

It will have to be a awfy wide road then. The problem is that Eastfield Road is a narrow road with lots of junctions and accesses.
The new link will just act as a big car park unless the roads leading to the car parks and terminals are sorted out.
22

JFW,

Newtown 13/05/2008 15:49:20
I go to the airport regularly and have never seen an major issues with traffic (other than when the Highland Show is on)! The issue is with the number of folk coming into town past the airport from the M8 & M9. Future expansion of the airport is irrelevant to road traffic, the only concern should be corresponding expansion of the public transport links - we're trying to reduce traffic Mr Wheeler, not increase it (what's your job again??).
There is currently a more than adequate route from both M-ways to the airport; there is no need to ruin even more greenbelt - all it will do is increase congestion in the area. The M8 is one big commuter carpark twice a day; all this 'link' will do is encourage more commuters to drive into the city as it'll be another chunk of road to fill while they drive past the airport and queue to get in past Gogaburn.
23

Andrew,

13/05/2008 15:49:44
Just extend the runway towards Newhouse roundabout
and we'll have a "ready made" access to the airport!!!
(tougue-in-cheek)!

24

Andrew,

13/05/2008 15:50:51
23. ie tongue-in-cheek!!
25

Alannah,

13/05/2008 18:18:57
About time the SNP revealed their alleged plans to replace EARL with a cheaper surface rail link. It's been promised for over a year and still we have no details. Could it be the Nats are trying to deceive the people of Edinburgh as to their intentions? Perhaps the Nats aren't as enthusiastic as they make out about Edinburgh Airport's future. Time to prioritise rail over road!
26

Steinbuhl,

Midlothian 13/05/2008 19:59:23
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story! "Forgot about RBS"? The RBS traffic figures were in the base model before any assessment of transport options for the Airport, etc. The West Edinburgh Planning Framework published today does not specifically put the link from M8 to the Airport (or even to the A8 - what good wuld that be?) back on the cards. It states the fact that a full transport assessment of all the options has to be done to select the best option, and it emphasises sustainable transport solutions. And as to the successor to EARL - it was announced last September - a station in the vicinity of Gogar with a Dalmeny chord for Glasgow trains. Perhaps some readers should keep up with the plot instead of scoring banal points off each other.
27

Graeme F,

13/05/2008 20:14:27
#26 - absolute garbage on EARL. The SNP have talked but produced no detailed plans on a replacement EARL. TIE are stil working on the assumption that there will be NO tram stop at Gogar. There are NO plans for a surface rail link to Edinburgh Airport, merely platitudes from the SNP.
28

Hugh,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 20:18:02
More important is to get rid of the three roundabouts on the City bypass. If they don't, cars will be queuing back beyond Newbridge waiting to get on the airport link. (So they'll use the M8 as before)
29

Steinbuhl,

Midlothian 13/05/2008 20:27:21
#27 - What planet are you living on? You are right on one thing - there will be no surface rail link to the Airport. But work is proceeding apace on specifying a station on the Fife line either north or south of the A8, and served by a station on tram line 1A to the Airport. Bus and long distance coach interchange is an option that could be included as well as tram. A detailed scheme is expected in about three months. That is a realistic timescale for a newly devised project of this kind.
30

EISL,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 20:45:24
The plans for the Gogar station will be welcome. There are already ideas for a more substantial scheme that could follow on later, shown at
http://www.eisl.org.uk

The layout at
http://www.eisl.org.uk/figures/EISLA/EISLA3/EISLA3maphi.gif
shows a motorway link, the tram line and one option for a later heavy rail link.
31

Rod,

Kirkliston - European Village Jewel (2016) 13/05/2008 21:31:06
#27 Graeme : #26 - absolute garbage on EARL. The SNP have talked but produced no detailed plans on a replacement EARL.

The SNP is a political party, not major infrastructure planners. Which is why the Scottish government tasked Transport Scotland to take the project forward. It was widely reported at the time. I understand that TS is currently involved in discussions with what it terms as 'stakeholders'.
32

rs,

in ma house 13/05/2008 22:18:28
NO17....!!!!!

sherrifhall : the problem is

i) the sheer number of cars
ii) too many junctions, could be reduced to 4 no problem

the a68 dalkeith bypass will just make things worse..they should have taken the road and joined it up with the main road on the north side of sherrifhall.

If you think sherrifhall is bad just wait until all the a68 traffic hits this stretch.

You'll end up with cars heading west... reverting to Dalkeith to avoid the mega car congestion as the a68 meets the a720.

The city bypass started off as a BYPASS but ended up creating all these out of town shopping and office complexes , RESULT CAR CONGESTION.
33

Pond Hall,

13/05/2008 22:27:00
no 5 i'm fully aware of what all of the out of town developments have caused.

I think your missing the point, that everytime you build more road space, the road space just fills up with more cars...then your back to square one.

So do we build a bypass, then build a bypass to bypass the 1st bypass, then when the 2nd bypass is at saturation, do we build another bypass to relieve the congestion on the 2nd bypass...were do you stop.

What this country has failed and probably will never have is a proper transport plan, with good modern cheap public transport.

Edinburgh Park is an example, lack of quick public transport.
First came the Edinburgh park, then the car, then congestion, then years later the rail stop.
34

Julian,

EDINBURGH 14/05/2008 00:32:13
#33,

Aren't the point of bypasses to divert traffic from going through town centres. Are you saying we just shouldn't build them at all.

#2 Corruption,

If you don't like the parking charges at the airport why don't you take the bus? Loads of services stop there on a regular basis.
35

Pond Hall,

14/05/2008 22:02:59
no34 Julian

Yes Bypass town Centre, but the Edinburgh City Bypass has just created out of town developments.

Creating what they were built to solve...car congestion..they've just moved the problem.

Look at the A1 Musselburgh Bypass....Musselburgh is back to pre 86 bypass levels...never mind the stream of cars coming in Edinburgh every day.

More more roads more cars.!!!
36

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15/05/2008 20:31:49
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