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Capital stores strung out as musicians turn to the internet



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Published Date: 13 May 2008
MUSIC shops in Edinburgh today warned they are being forced out of business by online shopping.
It comes after one well-known store went into administration and another moved from its city-centre location.

With several already closed in recent years, it leaves only a handful of shops selling instruments in the centre of the Capital.

Sound Control on the Grassmarket became the latest victim when it announced it was going into administration, while Live Music on Leven Street has shut pending a relocation, although it is unclear when it will reopen.

Other music shop owners across the city said internet trading had hit the industry hard, while increased parking restrictions had harmed passing trade. Stuart Hepburn, director of Varsity Music on Nicolson Street, said his other business interests were supporting the shop.

He said: "What happens is people go into these music shops, try out the instruments, then buy the same one online cheaper.

"It's all down to the internet. It's not like fewer people are interested in playing music or are buying fewer instruments.

"It's terrible what happened to Sound Control, there was no question they were good at what they did, but the internet has double-crossed everyone and shops have just disappeared."

Mr Hepburn, whose shop specialises in pianos, said the first signs of this happening in the city was when Simpsons music shop at the West End closed a couple of years ago.

"When Simpsons went they blamed the traffic wardens, and that situation is hurting everyone as well because you just can't drive in town anymore," he said.

It is understood accessories like strings, electrical appliances and stands are now more commonly bought online, making musicians less likely to visit a music store. Sheet music is still hard to download from the internet due to copyright laws, and so has not accounted for a large reduction in trade.

Live Music, another independent store which closed last month, is hoping to move into new premises outside the city centre.

A spokesman for Scayles Music, which owns the store, said: "The main reason for leaving the Leven Street location was because of a lack of passing trade.

"Everyone has been affected by the internet and as an enthusiast it's a shame to see music shops disappearing from the city centre. It's fine to buy appliances online but when it comes to buying instruments unless you can feel them as you play you don't know what you're getting."

City musician Norval Barclay, 36, from Slateford, said: "It's terrible to see these shops go to the wall over the years.

"There are still places outside the city centre like Guitar Guitar in Corstorphine, which is good, but the days of popping into town for strings or guitars seem to be on the way out."

A Guitar Guitar spokesman added: "We find being out of the city centre a positive things because we have parking. Edinburgh has lost three or four big music traders in the last five years, it certainly has made a difference."

A statement from Sound Control said it had been "impacted by increased competition from the internet". It is understood administrators will keep the shop open for now in the hope of finding a new buyer and selling off stock.

MUSIC SHOPS STILL PLAYING A TUNE

• Scayles St Patrick Square

• Varsity Music Nicolson St

• Mev Taylor's Brougham Place

• Omni Music (sheet music specialists), York Place

• Rae Macintosh (sheet music and tuition specialists), Queensferry Street

• Stringers (classical music), York Place




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  • Last Updated: 13 May 2008 11:55 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

TheColourOfUpsideDown,

13/05/2008 12:00:05
It is a great pity but it's a case of adapt to survive - they have to either lower their prices or offer a wider range of services. I was recently in the market for an instrument and the difference in price was £550 in varsity compared to £380 on the internet. I certainly can't afford to spend almost £200 more just to keep local music retailers in business.
2

Bertie The Bat,

13/05/2008 12:15:41
Drop the prices, or get "outa" town!
3

SDRAWKCAB,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:19:42
#1 - i couldn't agree more.

when i read this - "It's fine to buy appliances online but when it comes to buying instruments unless you can feel them as you play you don't know what you're getting."... what a load of rubbish.
as consumers, we're in the market for the best deal. the internet wins hands down.
4

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

13/05/2008 12:43:56
Farceity Music was always a nightmare. Ive never felt so unwelcome in a music shop in my life. have they still got a classy stencil of a najed BIRD PLAYING A saxophone ?

sad to see sound control go, was the only decent music shop in town.

5

fresian,

Dubai 13/05/2008 12:44:16
There is nothing stopping these retailers selling online, I believe Sound Control did and I know Rikkis do. I saved over £100 by buying a guitar from an online shop in Germany. the postage and packaging worked out at 10 euros as well. In the UK you risk being ripped off with postage
6

Lars Umlaut,

edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:49:57
I'll miss the "No Stairway to Heaven Allowed" neon sign ... :(
7

alex paterson,

At the moment in Sevilla 13/05/2008 12:53:12
Progress get used to it.
8

alex paterson,

At the moment in Sevilla 13/05/2008 12:53:12
Progress get used to it.
9

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:54:03
I know its not a blame the tram post but here we have the usual contradictions from the small businessman.

"Live Music, another independent store which closed last month, is hoping to move into new premises outside the city centre. A spokesman for Scayles Music, (is this the same owner of the one in St Patricks Sq?) which owns the store, said: "The main reason for leaving the Leven Street location was because of a lack of passing trade."

How much passing trade are they going to get in an outside of city centre location!!!!!
10

Tokai,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 12:54:07
No.3 have you ever appeared on You Tube?
Obviously not a guitar player are you! Buying a guitar online may be cheaper but until you actually pick up a guitar and try it, you can't make a decision on whether it's the one for you. What if you want the guitar set up in a d iffernet way to suit your own playing? I certainly would'nt want to send a guitar bought online back t the seller or have to take it to a guitar tech when a retailer like Sound Control will do it on the spot.
The after sales service of sound control is very good and the sales people are not condescending which is common in other music stores so I'll be sorry to see them disapear. It's also a blow to the Grassmarket area.
11

fresian,

dubai 13/05/2008 13:10:13
I wonder how many more traders in the Grassmarket will close before the workmen have finished
12

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 13:23:06
fresian

From what I understand Dubai is one big building site. It doesn't appear to be closed for business.
13

Ghengis McCann,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 13:30:36
#3 ""It's fine to buy appliances online but when it comes to buying instruments unless you can feel them as you play you don't know what you're getting."... what a load of rubbish."

Aye, that's what you're talking here... a load of rubbish. The internet is fine for music consumables like strings and things, but when it comes to instruments any half serious player wants to road-test it first. Even among the same model of instrument, no two are ever quite the same in feel and set-up.
14

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

13/05/2008 13:52:36
13 totally agree. Especially with electronic instruments and peripherals.

11 fresian i dont think you can blame this one on the trams or work in the grassmarket. Sound control are a chain and had what was a very big shop in glasgow.
15

Ron D,

Enybru 13/05/2008 14:18:38
Sound Control always managed to make me feel like I didn't belong there, and the last few times I was in Live Music the staff were listening to loud heavy metal music - hardly conducive to trying out musical instruments.

No sale.

16

Annoyingboi,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 14:30:26
No surprises at this news. Just another nail in Edinburgh's retail coffin
17

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13/05/2008 15:17:36
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18

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

13/05/2008 15:36:20
17 its economies of scale . with an internet business you can have your warehouse anywhere without paying high street prices for rent.
19

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 15:39:16
Not a musician but the comments from those who frequent some of the shops tend to descibe what I often find. Shop owners or staff who think you owe them a living. Good shops with good product and well trained attentive and knowledgable staff survive, the poor ones go to the wall and would do even if they had the traffic volume of the M25 passing their door.
20

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

13/05/2008 15:44:36
19 too many young wee scallywags working in music shops (generally speaking of course). too many wee wannabes and let face it they are shop assistants.
21

Listening,

13/05/2008 16:51:52
I had to shop at Sound Copntrol a few times and found that they were salesmen only. They never really knew much about the instruments.

Not sorry to see it go.
22

Silence of the Yams,

13/05/2008 17:55:03
A bit suprised and saddened to hear of Sound Control's demise as I still use their tech quite regulary, but I agree with the other posters, when you're saving potentially hundreds and hundreds buying online you're going to take that option. I only discovered recently that Gordon Simpson's had closed, bought my first guitar their in 85, a copy for £99. My main amp is still a Marshall I got from Sound Control in 1987, and I have a great strat I got out of their in 95. I agree with the point it's helpful to know what you're buying, especially for amps. I'd have no trouble paying £50-100 more for an amp I'd thoroughly tested in a shop like GuitarGuitar. Kids will miss out on pressing their noses against the window and drooling over something that their hero uses. That will be lost if alkl these shops go.
23

Sassi,

13/05/2008 20:54:41
Buy your instrument on the internet for cheaper! Yes, it arrives a few days later, whereas you could have bought it on the spot in the shop.

Buy your instrument on the internet for cheaper! Yes, it arrives a few days later, when you could have bought it on the spot in the shop AND you have to set it up yourself!

Rather difficult to do if you have no idea how to actually set up a set of drums for instance!

Yes, buy on the internet as it's cheaper and then take it to your local music shop for them to set it up for you!

And if you have a problem with your internet bought instrument, pay the postage to return it to them!

24

Pond Hall,

13/05/2008 22:56:53
its a catch 22, the more people who buy online, the more the wee shops struggle, prices go up to keep themselves going, result less trade.

The economy is a giant food chain, people go to shops, buy things, this then pays the wages of the people in the shops,

Who then go and buy things in other shops.

The Internet is killing the food chain.

So eventually if we buy everything online, there will wont be any shops, they wont need Staff, so if no one is earning money how do people buy things online!!!!

Think About it.....
25

paulr,

edinburgh 14/05/2008 08:28:31
"the internet has double-crossed everyone" by that reckoning, if you try a guitar in a music shop then buy it from asda because its cheaper then thats asda double-crossing the music shop.
But how can it be a doublecross?
unless, of course, you have some agreement to fix prices?
It's a free market, I personally would do the same, try it out then buy it for the cheapest price available.
26

Dave1875,

14/05/2008 11:29:47
If you're buying in a shop you are paying for peace of mind. Unfortunately, unless you're right at the high-end of the guitar market, mass manufacturing means that there can be a huge variation in final build and finish quality. When I bought my Gibson LP standard a few years ago, there were three in ebony in the shop (Sound Control, Glasgow): one had sharp fret edges; one had a tiny flaw in the finish of the nitrocellulose and the other one was perfect. If you're willing to spend £1,500 on an instrument you've never even seen let alone picked up and played, all for the sake of saving a couple of hundred quid, then you're insane.

Merchant City Music in Glasgow are a great example to other stores. They are consistently cheaper instore than anywhere else and still have a thriving online business; proof that it can be done.
27

Tired runner,

Edinburgh 02/06/2008 12:11:34
I'm very sad to see the demise of Sound Control. I always went in for something when I was in the Grassmarket. Hope that Red Rock is successful on the site.
People are right, though, to comment that the city centre is a mess; I walked from Princes Street to Grassmarket yesterday in pouring rain only to find the SC shop closed. Also walked from Melville Street as far as Hanover Street and was constantly up against dug up streets and temporary crossings. If I were a trader I would be picketing the city chambers ... what a mess. With our council it's always "jam tomorrow", but by then, what will be left?

 

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