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Published Date: 07 February 2009
A WAR on grey squirrels in Scotland will begin next week on an unprecedented scale, with a new plan to exterminate thousands of the animals.
A battleline has been drawn across Scotland beyond which all grey squirrels are to be wiped out.

The new project, to be launched on Tuesday, will aim to cull the thousands that live in the Aberdeen area, and other parts of the north of Scotland.

Conservation groups are describing it as the last big push to save the native red squirrel in Scotland.

Grey squirrels, introduced from North America, compete with the reds and carry a pox that is harmless to greys but is lethal to the smaller native animals.

Although greys are now common in Scotland, in the north reds are still prevalent and efforts will be focused on protecting these animals.

With the help of landowners, thousands of grey squirrels, mainly around Aberdeen, will be trapped, and then either shot with air rifles or enticed into hessian sacks and hit over the head.

And a team of squirrel control officers will guard the battleline, concentrating on areas where greys are likely to infiltrate from the south.

Stuart Brooks, director of conservation at the Scottish Wildlife Trust, told The Scotsman it was a hugely ambitious plan.

"This is the last chance," he said. "We have a moral obligation to try. It's going to be extremely difficult, but I think we owe it to future generations to try. We shouldn't just give up now.

"It's like a battle and we are quite happy for that analogy to be made.

"It's a very strategic approach to the management of the problem."

The £1.3 million project, called Saving Scotland's Red Squirrels, will be carried out over three years. The initiative already has £700,000 funding, but needs to raise a further £600,000 from the public.

Mr Brooks said he realised that not everyone will like the idea of animals being killed.

"We think the vast majority of people are quite supportive of what we are trying to do, although there is a vocal minority who oppose this and we are fully expecting that," he said.

The project is being run by the Scottish Wildlife Trust, Scottish Natural Heritage, the Scottish Rural Property and Business Association and the Forestry Commission Scotland.

Michael Russell, the environment minister, has thrown his support behind the move.

"The red squirrel is one of our most beautiful and valuable native species and Scotland is one of the few sanctuaries it has left," he said.

He added: "We have only a short time to save the red squirrel from the brink of extinction."

However, Ross Minett, campaigns director for Advocates for Animals, said: "It is totally wrong to attempt to save red squirrels by slaughtering thousands of grey squirrels.

"What we want is a real and achievable long-term solution to saving red squirrels, through effective habitat management and development of a squirrel-pox vaccine."

Big, bold and hungry: the invaders

THERE has been a catastrophic decline in red squirrels in Scotland since greys were introduced from North America in the late 19th century.

There are three million grey squirrels in the UK, but just 140,000 reds.

Scotland is home to 75 per cent of the remaining red squirrels, making it the largest stronghold in the UK for the beleaguered creature.

Whereas the red squirrel has lived in the UK for 10,000 years, greys are later arrivals. A pair was released in Cheshire in 1876 and more followed, including a pair at Loch Long in 1892.

Greys are up to double the weight of the reds, and compete for food and space.

They also carry a disease known as squirrel pox, which is lethal to their smaller cousins.

Squirrel pox has no effect on grey squirrels but kills reds within two weeks.

Greys infected with squirrel pox were first spotted in Scotland in the Borders in 2005 and have since spread further into the country, but there has not yet been an outbreak in the Central Belt or the north of the country.


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  • Last Updated: 06 February 2009 9:08 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Squirrels
 
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07/02/2009 00:18:50
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Starkravingsane,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 00:38:35
For so many of us, the greys are the only squirrels we have. I can't see this cull being successful.
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Irish by berth British by choice,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 02:58:26
I hope this is not an issue of colour . PC brigade (AKA BBC) sack someone right away ?
A really sad world ?
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Scottish 'N British,

07/02/2009 03:55:50
Greys carry disease and eat virtually anything in their path.

Larger than the indigenous reds, they dominte food sources and habitat, and in so doing they hasve virtually succeeded in wiping out the reds.

This decision is long overdue.

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Scottish 'N British,

07/02/2009 04:03:31
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You aven't lived unless you have seen red squirrels.

They are furtive little beggars, unlike greys which are far more trusting.

Dundee's Camperdown Park and (especially) the nearby Templeton Woods are two of the few remaing places in Scotland where sizeable numbers of reds can still be found.

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07/02/2009 04:10:41
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Lanna,

07/02/2009 05:14:56
Granny's Squirrel Stew

Ingredients
1 squirrel, cut up
flour
salt and pepper
2 1/2 tablespoons butter
7 cups boiling water
1 teaspoon thyme
1 cup corn
3 potatoes, cubed
1/4 teaspoon cayenne
3 medium onions, sliced
2 cups canned tomatoes with juice
Directions
1Roll the squirrel pieces in flour, salt, and pepper.
2Brown in butter.
3Add squirrel and all other ingredients, (with the exception of the tomatoes), to the boiling water, cover, and simmer for 1/2 to 2 hours.
4Add the tomatoes and continue to simmer another hour.
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Scotboy56,

Forest Heights 07/02/2009 05:33:49
I live in America, and I know gray squirrels. This will never work! But in the process, killing will go on. How far back do we go to say an animal has no rights to live where it lives, where its ancestors through multiple generations have lived? Are sheep "native" to Scotland?
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Rothiemurchus 55,

USA 07/02/2009 06:15:06
The big fat greys are coming from the South to rout the smaller reds.....This reminds me of 1314 and the Battle of Bannockburn....I know who wins!!!!!!!
J.A. Macintosh
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 07/02/2009 06:29:42
We have many grey squirrels entering our garden and to be frank I dislike them intensely so if the squirrel catchers want somewhere to place their traps then I'm happy to oblige.

Bring back the REDS I say and get rid of these tree rats once and for all.

PS and if anyone wants a few destructive magpies caught at the same time then I'm also happy to oblige on behalf of the blackbirds, bluetits, chaffies, robins, sparrows, wrens, woodpeckers etc whose declining numbers deserve a break from these carrion birds.
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Steve Foley,

07/02/2009 07:45:19
What a waste of money £1.3 million, and this is an Zoological "Final Solution" . It is also strange that as many people celebrate the anniversary of Darwin the weaker and less successful Red Squirrel is protected when nature would result in its dying off.

Luckily I live a far distance from Scotland and can watch the little Grey Squirrels on the trees outside my window. These too are God's creatures and they are welcome in my garden as are Magpies, Cats and the local
urban Fox.

I do love the irony in the name of a previous poster "Liberal for Life" , unless you are a Grey Squirrel that is. (I don't vote their his lot either!)
12

jrennie1984,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 07:49:42
This disgust me, it is our fault that the grey squirral came to scotland in the first place and yet its the animals who will suffer in the end,
I am all for saving the red squirral however there are other less brutal ways to do it.
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StopTheNumpties,

up a tree 07/02/2009 08:15:58
The simplest way is to announce that the Canadian seal pups have shown up in Scotland and and are grey.

Sure it's our fault they're here, but eliminating them is our responsibility as a result of (as you put it) it being our fault.

If you've got a plan to do what needs to be done less brutally, now would be the time to get out and round them up. Unfortunately for the squirrels, this has been under discussion for quite some time, but you've yet to help them out by volunteering your solution that will eliminate the problem. Don't just whine there, do something!
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Webbie,

mullingar 07/02/2009 08:40:53
Come on the squirrels!!!!!!!
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Am Fidhleir Lomartach,

07/02/2009 08:43:34
#15 has noticed that 'Scotland has numerous small islands' that 'could provide safe places for your reds'. Except that most of these small islands a) have no trees; b) are too small to maintain a viable population with genetic diversity. Not a very smart suggestion, Janeshore.
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Beverly,

New York 07/02/2009 08:47:11
As a matter of fact, gray squirrels can swim. Rather well, and certainly well enough to manage a river crossing. (Doubt they could make it across a sizable bay, though.) I was sailing a large schooner up the Hudson River, and was on bow watch, when I saw one of the little beggars paddling like mad in the middle of the river. It's so broad that we feared the creature would drown. Thinking quickly, the captain flipped the bitter end of a halliard overboard, and the squirrel seized it and climbed that rope up to the cross trees. There he sat, wet through and shivering, until we reached Kingsport some hours later. He wouldn't come down for all our coaxing, but sometime in the night he slipped away, on French leave.
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Obama Mama,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 08:54:22
First of all: Jeeze Louize! Enticing them into a bag and then bonking them on the head??? Seems a bit like the Inquisition to me. There are more humane options out there for culling. And what about all the carcasses? Squirrel sporrans anyone? I see a fabulous tourist-trade business in the making. Definitely a renewable resource since culling every gray squirrel on the main island of England/Scotland will be impossible--especially if you you are trapping, shooting, and bonking each one individually. No, wait, it has possibilities for being a work alternative to the dole... Squirrel catchers, squirrel whackers/shooters, squirrel skinners, squirrel-skin tanners. Add to that, all the sporran pattern cutters, sporran sewers and detailers, then the wholesalers and the buyers, the delivery people and the shopkeepers needed to sell them at both the fine tailors and all the tartan tat shops.

I believe that this total cull idea done one squirrel at a time could save the entire UK economy. Any day now we will have gray squirrels lining up all over Scotland and maybe even south of Hadrian's Wall to give their lives to save humankind from the looming world-wide depression.
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Scimitar1,

07/02/2009 09:39:55

Pity they don't raise similar concerns about the alarming demise of another indigenous species - white humans in UK , despite the striking similarities.

BBC - Dramatic rise in mixed race children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7836024.stm

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Stan Butler,

07/02/2009 09:47:13

Why has it taken so long to reach this decision?

People have been advocating this approach for years.

I just hope it's not too little too late.
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ignorant townie?,

Scotland 07/02/2009 09:56:37
The extreme racism shown by #20 has no place in Scotland or any other civilised country. Pass this on to the police.
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Lianachan,

Highlands 07/02/2009 09:58:37
#5 "Dundee's Camperdown Park and (especially) the nearby Templeton Woods are two of the few remaing places in Scotland where sizeable numbers of reds can still be found."

You should get out and see more of Scotland, then. There are many places up here where there are still large populations.
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Sally Longlegs,

edinburgh 07/02/2009 10:18:32
The greys are just vermin. I had to buy an expensive bird feeder so that I could feed the small birds in my garden without the greys eating everything in site.I have taken to shooting them here in Edinburgh.Telescopic sight on my air rifle gets them right through the eye every time and it also feeds the foxes.
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Newtyle Railway,

Antarctica 07/02/2009 10:18:55
Something must be done to control the Greys.

If that means knocking them on the head so be it!

I have often seen Reds in Tempelton woods in Dundee but was horrified to see Greys recently in Kinnoull Hill near Perth, if they are in Aberdeen that means they are all round us in Dundee. I hope the cull is a success and can be rolled south in due course.
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fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 10:22:49
'In 1903, the Highland Squirrel Club was established to control red squirrels, which were causing severe bark stripping damage to trees, and over 82,000 animals were killed in the 20 years up to 1933.'

-SNH
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fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 10:27:16
These maps show that the greys are concentrated in the Lowlands and the reds in the Highlands. This suggests they prefer different environments and should therefore be left alone:

http://www.scottishsquirrelsurvey.co.uk/map.html
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hma13,

Leith 07/02/2009 10:34:31
I totally agree with the project to attempt to get rid of the grey squirrels - when are they going to carry out the project in Leith as my garden is overrun with grey squirrels!!! Good luck in getting rid anyway.
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Roflin,

Norway 07/02/2009 10:58:41
In scandinavia there are only reds, thank god. The grey squirrel are like rats or maybe worse with this pox,they are no doubt vermin. Good luck- expat
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Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 07/02/2009 11:00:14
Parts of Bavaria and Austria are having to cull imported Scandinavian beavers. Australia's rabbit problems are legendary. We are having problems with imported grey squirrels, mink and white-tailed eagles (re-branded as sea eagles).

Why can we never learn from all our past mistakes?
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ecosseman,

facts not propaganda 07/02/2009 11:07:35
you can kill by the millions,but they WILL come back.its NATURE.
why not try and cure the illness by trapping and treating,or is that too simple.
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David Harrington,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 11:11:10
On the moral issue, it is completely repugnant to kill any healthy living creature on the premise of it helping another - would anybody argue for killing their cat if it helped to save their dog? Not only is squirrel pox not a problem in Scotland, there is evidence that red squirrels are developing immunity to the disease anyway. Even if this were not true, it is a complete waste of money as anybody who knows grey squirrels knows they are very hardy and clever creatures. Unlike those in the Scottish Wildlife Trust who persist with plans which just don't work and amount to clear speciesism.
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dido-bendigo,

Scotland 07/02/2009 11:17:59
SNH knew that the grey sqirrels had reached North of the Dee in the early 1980s. I gave them one I shot at Drum. Better late than never I suppose! Why didn't they invite game/river keepers to join in the fight, they are the experts at pest control.

Channel 4 had a programme on a grey squirrel campaign in North England, last night. Very emotional with grim music and grimmer commentary. The commentator was louder than the adverts, quite a change! No doubt targeted at whipping up the anti-hunter crowd!
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dido-bendigo,

Scotland 07/02/2009 11:22:20
The money that is being given towards introducing beaver into Knapdale would be much better spent on killing grey squirrels and mink.
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Scottish 'N British,

07/02/2009 11:30:57
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I should have said "in an urban setting".


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Toast,

07/02/2009 11:31:53
But fox hunting is banned,bloo*y hypocrites,foxes kill for blood lust and can wipe out an entire hen coop in minutes, squirels don't.
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Tris,

07/02/2009 12:58:50
#37...
Backmuir woods is a good place to see them too.


I hate the idea of killing any animals, but the two cannot co-exist. It has to be done!
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yoric,

07/02/2009 13:18:05
Killing the Greys to encourage growth or to save the Reds is a typical Environmentalist unproven approach.

The probability is that all the Greys will be killed but the Reds too susceptable to disease will not thrive, the result will be no Squirrels at all.

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2dogs in D.C.,

07/02/2009 13:39:03
Again with the squirrels? Look,these rascals are really,really smart.You should see them outsmart all the best efforts of prevention.the only things that seem to stop them are cats,hawks and car tires.(The odd squirrel hunter also helps). We in D.C. are host to both the gray and the black.Interestingly enough, the black squirrel was introduced by the Smithsonian Institute in the 1800's because they feared that the grays were being hunted to extinction. Just as an aside,the grays do make fun pets.
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Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 07/02/2009 14:45:30
In what way is exterminating grey squirrels morally different from poisoning birds of prey?
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DALESMAN,

North Yorkshire 07/02/2009 15:00:19
Get rid of them Greys not just in Scotland but throughout the UK After all they are nobut TREE RATS
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Discretionpvs,

Moose territory,, Muskoka, Ontario 07/02/2009 15:24:47
Something we have very few of in my area, is grey squirrels. In the Town Centre, most of the "tree rats " are the black variety, while where I live, next the moose, the beasts are predominantly reds. Doesn't take them long to strip a bird feeder, but the worst are the night predators, the "flying squirrels" which are also reds, with HUGE eyes. By electrifying my bird feeders, I convinced the critters to stay away from it. Amazing what 120 volts AC will do. They seem to have learned since I've not plugged in for a couple of years, but my cats enjoy watching them scamper on the decking. Yes, they are house cats, and enjoy it, besides living longer. I can walk in the forest behind the house and see many reds, walk along a logging trail, see the reds, moose and deer tracks as well. Idyllic, maybe, but not at -35 C. When I kept sled dogs they would keep the squirrels away from their territory, no problem. But really, wouldn't a sign at the border be just as effective as the expensive culling? "Grey beasties go home"
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Harbinger,

up a gum tree 07/02/2009 15:47:43
This proposed slaughter is appalling, just like the badger culling on flimsy evidence. Who decides what species we should have? They have been around for a long, long time now.

Why don't they isolate the gene that makes greys immune to pox and introduce it to the reds.

The fact that the pox virus is endemic in the reds means that slaughtering all the greys will not save the reds anyway. Have they proved that the greys are carrying the pox virus? The fact that they are immune to it does not make them carriers.

The accusations of racism aimed at earlier posters shows just how sad our society has become, when all the PC Thinkrights tell us what is correct thought and what isn't. Such choice language they use as well, true liberals.
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Charles MacRorie,

Puyallup, Washington, USA 07/02/2009 17:17:38
I live on the Puget Sound in Washington State, USA. We also have grey and red squirrels, and the greys are an invasive species here as well, for they did not live west of the Rocky Mountains in the old days. The greys were brought here about 150 years ago, and they are also a threat to our native red squirrels, though our reds, thankfully, are not victims of the disease that kills yours.

Based on our experience, this cull you propose is not a solution in itself, but in conjunction with red squirrel habitat restoration and preservation, plus the development of a vaccine and immunization program, it might work. But, for as long as a single grey squirrel lives on the isle of Britain, you will have to continue to cull them until either they are all gone, or until the red squirrels gain the ability to successfully compete and hold their own. The greys are a very successful competitor. It is not their fault that they are stronger, more adaptive and competitive, but ours, that we ever thought to bring them to another continent. Sadly, they must be controlled in this way until a biological and environmental solution giving the reds a fair chance is achieved. Humane eradication is also as imperative as selective and exclusive eradication. So please respect the lives you must take, and don’t make the same mistakes we have made in the past with indiscriminant poisons that killed many animals besides the greys.
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AJG858@hotmail.com,

Cleveland, Ohio 07/02/2009 17:39:18
Squirl meat is very tasty. Sauted in butter makes a West Virginian so happy.
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Tobytoo,

Southington,U.S.A. 07/02/2009 19:15:27
I could never kill a sqirrel. I have them in my backyard and watch their antics every day,they do go after the bird seed but I have 2 feeders one more complicated than the other to get to so that the sqirrels go to one the birds go to the complicated one,when the deer pass through the birds and squirrels seem to disappear for a while.I also throw out some bread for the animals and have seen the blue jays and sqirrels eating it side by side.
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notantidollarbut,

14west prestonlinks 07/02/2009 19:38:26
this is the second house i have lived in with a large garden that i try to keep bird friendly thas until the sqirrels (grey) and the black and white pest (magpies) moved into the area the small bird population has dropped dramatically
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Selgovae,

07/02/2009 19:42:50
"We have only a short time to save the red squirrel from the brink of extinction." (environment minister)
"The red squirrel is common throughout Eurasia." (wikipedia)

Oh dear. Who to believe.

When I was a kid (early 60s) I don't remember seeing any grey squirrels in and around Glasgow. Now they are everywhere. But I also don't remember seeing any red squirrels as a kid either. Now, in the cities, I can see greys everywhere. Down here in the Borders, I find them less numerous. I'm not convinced the greys are pushing out the reds. I'm not even convinced the reds ever really existed in numbers in Britain.

How long before we are trying to save the grey squirrel from the brink of extinction?

We all know that whatever we do in the area of animal control, we are going to make a balls up. Let's give it a rest.




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Daveunderwater,

07/02/2009 21:24:31
I suspect Ian Gray will take a dim view of what's happening in Aberdeen

Just where were these Squirrels introduced?
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Auld Yin Ross-shire,

Dingwall 07/02/2009 21:40:11
What is so sad is this is not a new problem, when I was a child living near Balmaha Loch Lomond in the mid to late 1950's I do remember the adults talking about the bounty for Grey Squirrel Tails - possibly from the Forestry Commision,the Red squirrels were still very predominant in the area and the Grey the minority that I remember, but obviously it was known that the Greys could wipe out the Reds, I have no idea if the Squirrel Pox had been identified or it was just thought that the larger grey squirrels killed off the indigenous red squirrels. I have to agree with the culling of the grey squirrels but would hope that this will be done without poison's as this has a dreadful consequence, there must be a more humane way than bagging the wee tree rats then banging them over the head surely very distressing for animals and humans.
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WSS,

07/02/2009 22:15:37
Having successfully cleared 6 "greys" out of my garden last summer without a shot being fired by me, the pest control lads took the culprits and disposed of them. In the past two weeks I have counted another four, like the painting of the Forth Bridge(as it used to be) it seems never ending. Good luck to you in ridding the country of this pest.
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weeshooie1,

Wollongong 07/02/2009 22:50:33
Lanna #7,

G'day Lanna, Gimme a tinkle when lunch is ready :0)
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Sharon D.,

newmarket 07/02/2009 23:34:25
Why is there no 'Report Unsuitable' link on comment no.20?
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Steve Foley,

08/02/2009 00:12:31
Send the greys down here if you don't like them! I just can't see all the fuss to be honest, same as I had no problem with the Ruddy Duck either but the naturalist Einsatzgruppen wiped many of them out too.

With modern transport foreign fauna will settle here anyway, especially if our climate IS getting warmer. Personally I would be delighted to see some interesting exotics here.

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Courtney,

East Molesey 08/02/2009 11:18:34
Time for the Grey Squirrel to go!
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dido-bendigo,

Scotland 08/02/2009 12:00:31
Three red squirrels have been feeding in my garden this morning, along with many varieties of small birds. From past experience (of living in other houses), if three grey squirrels had been feeding here, small bird numbers would have been much reduced. Would those people who disagree with culling grey squirrels kindly state how they feel about rat control?
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Phil the Flooter,

08/02/2009 20:26:37
#27 Ive seen Greys around Kinnoull Hill for a few years, but I have noticed a lot more reds around Dunkeld, towards Blairgowrie recently.
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The Browne Gothic,

Medieaval Nottinghamshire 10/02/2009 16:02:58
In Lord Byrons Heritage town we feed ours with Pumpkin Seeds (you will only get my worms ) or suffer hibernation. Maybe the squirrel population is the furry peace so infamous of The Scottish Highlands. Never bite the hand that feeds.
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squirrel crusader ,

scotland 26/02/2009 11:20:09
#12 "weaker and less successful Red Squirrel is protected when nature would result in its dying off."

#33 "Not only is squirrel pox not a problem in Scotland, there is evidence that red squirrels are developing immunity to the disease anyway."

The lack of basic understanding about the red vs grey squirrel issue demonstrated by posters on tis blog is quite staggering!! Red squirrels are NOT developing immunity to pox and the disease IS a massive problem in Scotland- and it's only likely to get worse. Red squirrels are not a weaker species, they are perfectly adapted to the habitat in which they live. Unfortunatley they are not adapted to compete with a species with which they did not evolve and which has the advantage of size on its side. The "final solution" would actually be to cull greys in the central belt, which is currently providing a reservoir of greys which are free to colonise the north (and south) of scotland. A cull in Aberdeenshire is merely trying to hold back the tide. Unfortunatley the PR implications mean this will never happen and i fear the money may be spent in vain.
Where is our dear freind Prof Acorn in this discussion?!
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The worldwide protector of squirrels,

Washington, USA 11/08/2009 15:44:34
Hands off the adorable gray squirrels, you despicable barbarians in Great Britain! The real reason you barbarians kill those beautiful-in-and-out animals is your animosity toward the American people. You barbarians consider those valuable animals the AMERICAN INVASION! The gray squirrels DO NOT eradicate the super-adorable red squirrels. Red squirrels simply run away from the grays, as the latter are stronger genetically. The way to preserve the reds is to focus ON THEM, not to focus murderously on the grays. The number one killer of the squirrels are the bandit-drivers on the streets and roads. Conduct an educational campaign for them to stop killing squirrels. Put up “STOP for squirrels” road signs. Exterminate natural killer of squirrels – raccoons, hawks, falcons, eagles, etc. Protect and feed everywhere the adorable squirrels; ALL OF THEM!

You are lucky squirrel-murdering bandits I don’t live in your decadent country. If I caught you killing squirrels, it would be YOU who would be hunted by me, after being given one warning to stop.





 

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