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Confident Spartans head race to replace Gretna



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Published Date: 04 June 2008
EAST of Scotland League side Spartans have been established as early favourites to be named newest members of the Scottish Football League after Gretna formally resigned from the organisation yesterday.
Gretna joint-administrator David Elliot informed the SFL of the club's inability to retain membership in the face of crippling debts.

The ailing club were relegated to the Third Division last week after failing to guarantee their ability to fulfil next season's First Division fixtures. Now Gretna have failed to stave off expulsion from the SFL.

League officials could not continue to accept Gretna's status as a club in administration. A deadline of the early part of this week was set for the club to find a buyer.

"However, with outside interest having been extinguished by the decision to relegate Gretna a further two divisions, defeat was conceded yesterday.

"The administrators (Wilson Field Ltd) have said they cannot go on any further with the club and were unable to give a commitment to playing football," said an SFL spokesman.

Gretna's resignation was accepted with immediate effect and interested clubs were invited to apply to join the SFL. A deadline of 12 June has been set for prospective new clubs to apply for membership. A vote will take place on 3 July to decide which club has been invited to join the SFL as a Third Division club with effect from the 2008-09 season.

Spartans were yesterday named odds-on favourites to take Gretna's place, followed by Cove Rangers, Annan Athletic and Preston Athletic. These clubs have all confirmed a desire to apply while there are reports that an unnamed Junior club from Ayrshire might also make a bid to join the SFL.

While ambition is a quality that will need to be displayed by those clubs eager to take a step-up the pitfalls could not be more obvious.

Gretna were the last club to be voted into the SFL and have paid a brutal price for the higher profile gained.

Businessman Brooks Mileson's attention was caught and his investment helped Gretna move through the Scottish leagues in successive seasons.

When he withdrew his money due to illness it was the beginning of the end for a club with little established infrastructure to fall back on.

Although the criteria has been described as "wide-ranging" by the SFL, proof of financial stability will need to be a central tenet of any submission. This consideration is likely to out-weigh playing standard, location and also fan-base, with the SFL desperate to avoid yet another application process in the near future.

The current one is the third since 2000, when Elgin City and Peterhead joined the SFL from the Highland League.

The SFL are looking for durability and in Spartans there is evidence that the club intends on staying around. The North Edinburgh-based side have established links to the local community via a healthily attended soccer academy. In what is a timely move Spartans will take up residency at a new £3.3million complex at Ainslie Park in August.

"We are not treating it as though we are favourites," said general manager Derek Rodier. "We don't even know who the rival bidders will be at this stage. We have been preparing tentatively for a little while now but have been hanging off doing anything until the Gretna thing came to a conclusion. Now this has happened we will be moving on.

"Obviously the facilities are a strong point in our favour but we are working on the financial side of things and also the football aspect in order to make the presentation complete," he continued.

"What the members of the SFL want to hear is what a club like Spartans, or whoever, can bring to the league. They want it to be enhanced. They will want to know about financial security and also the facilities. And then there is the football aspect – they will want to know we are competitive."

Memories of the demise of Meadowbank Thistle in 1995 might persuade some to doubt Spartans' ability to establish themselves as Edinburgh's third league club.

Severe financial problems eventually forced the club to leave Edinburgh and re-locate in Livingston, under a new name.

"The difference between us (Spartans] and Meadowbank is that Meadowbank was a stand- alone club," said Rodier. "This is a massive community project, and one of the biggest in Scotland.

"That makes a huge difference. And in a city with the population of Edinburgh it could be well argued that there is room for a third league club."

Ironically, Spartans might be forced to make Meadowbank Stadium a temporary home should their application to join the SPL prove successful.

The club are not set to move into their new stadium until the end of August, with a delay always possible. The SFL season begins on 5 August.

"We are speaking to Edinburgh Council and there is a possibility that Meadowbank stadium might be able to accommodate us in the early days," revealed Rodier. "It is pretty much SFL standard."

Rodier's preferred route to the SFL had been via a pyramid system. The time might come when clubs are able to play their way into the SFL but, as it stands, the hard work will need to be done, not by players on the pitch, but by officials in suits and armed with overhead projectors.

Pros and cons of likely candidate clubs to fill vacant place in the league

SPARTANS FC

Pros: Excellent facilities at new Ainslie Park complex, set to open in August. The ground is SFL standard, including a 500-seater stand. Club is also reaching out to the community, with 1,500 children involved in the club's soccer academy.

Cons: Poor precedent for third team in Edinburgh. Meadowbank Thistle struggled to create a fan base and eventually moved from the city in the guise of Livingston. New stadium not set to be ready until mid-to-late August, which means club may have to find alternative venue to play first home games in season.

Guide to Ground: At City Park Spartans might have struggled to gain support, with St Mirren one recent Scottish Cup opponent who complained about the standard of facilities. There should be no such complaints at Ainslie Park, which will include a fully enclosed grass pitch as well as a floodlit synthetic pitch.

Average support: 150

ANNAN ATHLETIC

Pros: Gretna's application in 2002 was significantly helped by their geographic location, and Annan, a well-run club with good facilities, would bring the representatives from the south-west back up to three.

Cons: No floodlights in place at present and also cramped dressing room arrangement. Could also suffer by being associated with neighbours Gretna, who proved how difficult it was to attract new fans from the area to games.

Guide to Ground: Galabank has concrete terracing down one side and an impressive 426-seater stand on the other. Floodlight situation is a concern although planning permission is in place. Floodlit all-weather training facilities also.

Average crowd: 200-250.

PRESTON ATHLETIC

Pros: Catchment area in East Lothian is 100,000 and good transport links, with A1 nearby and a train station 400 yards from ground. Will place great emphasis on plan to incorporate East Lothian in the club name and move to a new arena at Meadowmill in Tranent. But current ground at Pennypit already able to host SFL games as soon as August.

Cons: Low profile might count against them. East Lothian is not renowned for being one of football's hotbeds.

Guide to Ground: Pennypit, the current home, has a capacity of 3,000, of which 360 is seated. Pennypit Centre at north end of ground has press facilities and a bar. Floodlights in place.

Average crowd: 100

COVE RANGERS

Pros: A move to new purpose built £5m facility at Calder Park in Altens, constructed in conjunction with Aberdeen council, is at an advanced planning stage. Also, as current Highland League champions, would almost certainly be a competitive outfit. Large potential fan base in Aberdeen and the surrounding environs.

Cons: This won't be ready for at least another year and would need permission from the SFL to play next season's games at current Allan Park ground. The new stadium has also yet to receive the green light from the Scottish Executive. Aberdeen FC also have plans to move to a new stadium near Cove.

Guide to ground: Poor state of Allan Park was reckoned to have cost Cove when they last applied to the SFL in 2002. Capacity is 1,400, with a 200-seater stand and a covered enclosure. Narrow pitch.

Average crowd: 200

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

• The Scottish Football League yesterday accepted the resignation of Gretna FC and have now put in place the following process to replace the club for next season.

• The Scottish Football League will create a vacancy in the Third Division and will invite interested clubs to apply to join The Scottish Football League.

• Application packs are available to all interested parties and are available on request through the League offices. Completed applications should be received at the offices of the Scottish Football League by Thursday, 12 June.

• Following a review of the applications, the Scottish Football League Management Committee will visit each applicant club by Friday 27 June.

• Applicant clubs will then be invited, following assessment, to present their business and football plans to all 29 members of the Scottish Football League at a Special General Meeting to be held at Hampden Park on Thursday, 3 July.

• The 29 SFL clubs will then vote on the day to decide which club has been invited to join the Scottish Football League as a Third Division club with effect from the 2008/2009 season and an announcement will be made immediately following the voting process.


The full article contains 1652 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 04 June 2008 8:14 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Spartans FC
 
1

Steve,

04/06/2008 00:53:37
I don't want "a project", I want a viable historical club. Cove Rangers or Annan please!
2

CaliforniaBhoy,

04/06/2008 05:19:17
Great, at least the Jambo's support will still have somewhere to go in a couple of years.
3

Mike Lawson ,

early bronzing on the beach 04/06/2008 05:32:32
I had a thought last night, my second this week.
If we do make it into the SFL will we become Edinburgh's second team ? food for thought.

Now Omar has signed for Celtic, " Wrong move Omar they wont warm your baby milk at half time for you"
4

goodmorningall,

04/06/2008 07:19:30
Must be Cove. 5 million pound stadium, so we have to wait another year, how long did we wait for the Inverness ground? Also big city based with only one other club in Aberdeen. The other clubs will flopon and off the pitch.
5

Louis Catorze,

04/06/2008 07:35:25
An average attendance of c.200 for the above clubs.
Why is the SFL even bothering? You get more people watching a kickabout on Clapham Marshes on a Sunday.

What a joke.
6

Media 1,

cape town 04/06/2008 07:41:24
Gretna were always a safe club, they may have been n the lower leagues but they were a constant. Then a millionaire comes along and offers them a short dance in the big time. They waltzed in the spotlight with the best of them, sacrificed their existence and now its over. It isnt even riches and back to rags,its riches to nothing.
Beware Chelsea!
7

St Andrew,

Edinburgh 04/06/2008 07:57:24
#6
You are right. While there should be some sympathy for Brooks Mileson's poor health he has escaped some well deserved criticism for the way he abandoned Gretna.
8

Melly,

Sussex 04/06/2008 08:53:41
Had it not been the extra time goal in the last game of the season they would`ve been still in existence. The sensible decision would have had St Johnstone, a well run, well organised sustainable football club promoted. The SPL/SFA need to apply a bit of common sense when creating the requirements to be a member club of our top league and not leave it entirely to sentiment. This is the kind of thing that makes us a laughing stock down here.
9

CPWilliam,

04/06/2008 09:03:29
Why don't the SFL,SFA and SPL get together and really sort this out once and for all.
Why not bring in another 7 clubs, make the top division 16 teams and arrange the remaining 32 into two leagues as regional as possible. Whether south/west and north/east or something along those lines.
Then have the two winners promoted to the Top Division and if you wanty playoffs have the 2nd an 3rd in each play off English Championship style for the next place. 3 relegated from the top league.
There may be some flaws to iron out but at least it saves some of those clubs a travelling expense and gives our football an inkling of credibility and organisation. It also takes away the boredom of playing 4 games against the same opposition.
10

Ronaldinho Glavin,

04/06/2008 09:12:41
As the article says we have been here before with Meadowbank Thistle.

However Meadowbank Thistle were not a failure. Their support of around 1,000 was more than all these new applicants put together. They no longer exist because a rapacious businessman foolishly thought he could make a quick buck by moving them to Livingston and changing their name - even dropping the Thistle from the name.

As Livingston are now in their 4th (I think)owners since then, they make Meadowbank seem like an oasis of respectability and calm.

Now is the time for Meadowbank Thistle to be re-born. Let the 1,000 lost souls can return to football and let Livingston stand free of its robber past.
11

Cathcart Boy,

London 04/06/2008 09:18:30
Wilson Field were never likely to save the club. They behaved like inexperienced old-style receivers if press accounts of their conduct are to be believed.
As for the potential entrants - Pollok Juniors or Linlithgow Rose look stronger bets! (With apologies to all other junior teams who may be even stronger whose circumstances are not known to me)
12

Robbo,

Cape Town 04/06/2008 09:22:37
Media 1

You were listening to Adam Gilchrist this morning!
13

Iain Bhern,

04/06/2008 09:28:42
"That makes a huge difference. And in a city with the population of Edinburgh it could be well argued that there is room for a third league club."

Well O.K. but Edinburgh had more league clubs in the past and they didn't survive. Spartans play on City Park at the moment, once home to Edinburgh City. Then there was St Bernards not mention Leith Athletic just down the road (in Leith of course a seperate burgh at the time). There were probably others but long before my time so I don't know!

I'm not putting Spartans down, good luck to them but past history is not on their side.
14

Langenburger,

04/06/2008 09:41:54
"Spartans were yesterday named odds-on favourites to take Gretna's place"
Mr Patullo in the interests of reasonably professional reporting please name your source.
15

Deadpan,

London 04/06/2008 09:49:39
This whole election process is a farce. All of these clubs should have the chance to rise to their natural level on merit. Investment in facilities would allow youth systems to bare fruit and see teams rise through the divisions. Players may then attract attention from larger clubs and generate a return on that investment.

Only self interest prevents a logical pyramid system being created. Are the East Stirling, Forfar or Albion Rovers chairmen going to vote for a system where they will find their natural level when that will quite obviously be outwith the SFL? The only way I can see this happening is for the SFA and 1st Division clubs to lead the debate and put forward a motion to introduce it in 2 or 3 years time thereby allowing teams to get their act together. A deferred opening of the league would remove the "it's no fair!" arguments.

Still can't see it happening though and that truly is shameful. Maybe the EU or Office of Fair Trading could investigate the SFL for operating a cartel?
16

CPWilliam,

04/06/2008 10:34:49
13# I missed Adam Gilchrist this morning. What was it about?
17

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/06/2008 10:45:40
11 As much as I like that idea I cant see it happening as there IS no Meadowbank Thistle. MTFC were pretty damn succesful for a club of their stature, only missing out on Premier League in 1987 due to reconstruction.

11 maybe you should speak to 3.

Mike , if you do become the second team , dyou reckon you could manage a runout against Hibs in the League Cup ?.. !

CHeers , good luck.
18

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/06/2008 10:50:17
15 The Scotsman /Een were pretty instrumental in backing and support for MTFC back in 1974. They could do it again.

16 you are bang on of course. How lower league scottish fitba can be considered competitive is beyond me when East stirling get a little slap on the wrist for being rubbish 6 years in a row and told that "in 3 years time we might have to tell you off again".

19

Jake T,

Edinburgh 04/06/2008 10:53:40
5 The SFL are bothering because it's good for a league to have an even number of teams. Where are Clapham Marshes?

16 good post
20

Johnny Jambo,

04/06/2008 11:47:24
The solution would be to open the SFL up to promotion from a lower league, have a play off between the Highland League and the EOS League and the winner goes into the 3rd Division. It could even be extended to include some of the top tier junior leagues. This would take away all the debate about applications for entry into the top tier.

If a team goes out of business then they are autimatically replaced by a team from this set up.
21

Sloo,

Edinburgh 04/06/2008 12:15:05
Ah but if there was a Division 3 play-off who would play in it from the junior leagues? And let's not forget that although Forfar have finished bottom this year (and in previous years) they nhave in the past finished 4th in the 1st Division, and got to the Scottish Cup quarter-finals or beyond on several occasions. Had they been relegated in 1973 all of this may not have happened. I agree that consistently finishing bottom of the lowest division needs to be addressed, but a one-off?
22

Sloo,

Edinburgh 04/06/2008 12:16:25
# 21 What about the South of Scotland League? Central? Having play-offs would be quite a logistical challenge.
23

Waylon Uranus,

Spain 04/06/2008 12:22:46
I have seen better crowd numbers on Saturday night sessions at the local pub.
24

Johnny Jambo,

04/06/2008 12:43:07
#22,23 Sloo - These kind of play offs happen in other countries which are a lot bigger than Scotland, Scotland is a small country so I don't think the logistics would be too difficult. And yes you talk about the Central League South of Scotlnad leagues then yes they could be included as well as the Juniors as I already said.
Incidentally it does not matter what Forfar have done in the past it's where they would finish in the current season which would count.
25

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 04/06/2008 13:05:50
#10 - you've read my script! Strange, isn't it, how those who post on these boards know how the league should be structured - and reading the above posts there is a broad consensus - while those who are in charge would, apparently, struggle to run a bath.

Whether Annan, Spartans, Cove or whoever move up is irrelevant; we still have a frozen league structure with a glass ceiling through which ambitious clubs - Huntly, Keith from the Highland League to name just 2 - cannot move.

It must be time for the SFL to get it's act together - better still, for the SFA to take over the running of the whole of Scottish football - Juniors, Seniors, referees, internationals, the lot. We have too many chiefs for a very small bunch of Indians. There are also too many competitions for the big teams - witness the fixture congestion last season and then imagine what could happen with a really severe winter!

A complete re-organisation of the SFA/SFL/SPL/Junior set-up is required - say between now and 2010 - then we can start to re-shape the league structure. Until the management structure is unified, the whole mishmash will continue to run in a disorderly fashion. Once we get the structure right, we might be able to get our fixture schedules sorted... but that's another topic!
26

Robbo,

Cape Town 04/06/2008 13:29:50
#17 Talking about Gretna and how one benefactor could bring a club down and he said watch out Chelsea (not Hearts)
27

Deadpan,

London 04/06/2008 14:16:03
Makes a change to read the posts after a sport story in the Scotsman and still have sensible posts all the way down. Very pleasing.

Anyway...

#22 Sloo - if you get a chance have a look at the Italian set up. I can't be bothered trying to explain it all here but they have a pyramid structure and a Serie C that splits at the start of the season depending on geography. That way lower leagues can filter teams in and accept teams out of the national set up without too much trouble.
28

Rancho Relaxo,

Melbourne 04/06/2008 14:40:09
There are a number of reasonably supported Junior clubs who would be a better option than any of the sides in the running, but lets be honest, none of them will ever get a support big enough to make them a really valuable addition to the competition. They are merely being brought in to make up the numbers.

I think we should consider another angle by not replacing Gretna nor any other side that goes by the wayside. We should eventually reduce the number of clubs to 36 and have 2 leagues of 18. If the 2nd tier has to play with an odd number of teams until this eventually evens out then so be it, I'm sure the computer could handle an odd number of fixtures and it couldn't be any worse than the split fiasco the SPL currently forces on us.
29

Bemused and above it all,

04/06/2008 16:33:07
The structure is the key. Link juniors and highland/borders leagues into an SFA run league setup which will get rid of all the self sevring diddies, including SFL and SPL, single governing body for entire game, promotion and relegation, prospect of making it into pro football, big play offs, generate interest and excitement again and make it sustainable. Wasnt it something similar that Rinus Michels suggested to the think tank in the 90's?
30

Helen,

Rosewell 04/06/2008 17:01:47
If there was a pyramid structure in place with a Conference style league, we wouldn't even need to be having this discussion....the team that won the conference league would go into the 3rd division. The SFA needs to look at this. I might be a bit biased but my team Whitehill Welfare has just won the East of Scotland League for the Fourteenth time since 1979, which is no mean feat but they cannot go any further. There are other teams in other leagues at the same level who are stuck.
Conference football and the Pyramid system has been brilliant for English football and I'm sure it would be as beneficial for Scottish football.
31

club kleip,

Sydney 04/06/2008 17:02:25
The Spartans love-in continues. Let's not forget before the Graduate Club shmoozed its way to £3m of taxpayers money they were an absolute basket case - playing at one of the worst football grounds in the country and "entertaining" visiting clubs in the dingy basement of an Edinburgh city centre pub. All this community club stuff is just a smokescreen to get themselves into the league. If they could have killed Gretna in order to achieve this they would have done it. Annan has been a well-run club for decades, was years ahead of its time in the East of Scotland set-up in terms of facilities and has always done loads of work in the community and provided local kids with the chance to play football. They may not have had any cup runs of note but in East of Scotland have been a match for Spartans. Until a week ago they were still East of Scotland champions. The main thing against them seems to be their close proximity to Gretna, but remember Annan is a vastly bigger town than Gretna (12,000 population). They deserve the place but I fear a central belt carve up
32

Youngie the hibee,

04/06/2008 18:22:28
Like the ida of Spartans coming up.....If hibs get them in a cup it's a derby...or the impossible situation with Hibs Hearts and Spartans in the SPL!
AT LEAST 6 DERBIES A SEASON.......cool.
33

Moray B.,

Banff 11/06/2008 04:53:10
I think Deveronvale should be considered for Gretna's place in the 3rd Division.
Deveronvale have been consistent in winning trophies over many years, and also have the fanbase, which is probably better than most 2nd & 3rd division teams. Also, Deveronvale have also had a few decent runs in the Scottish cup over the past few years, proving that they can compete at a higher level within the Scottish game.
Also, the facilites at Princess Royal Park are the best in the highland league, and therefore would provide no problems with SFL Criteria on Stadia.

The location is also perfect for Deveronvale, we're 50 miles from a major team, and I think the area would benefit from having a team within the SFL infastucture.

 

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