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Golfer calls for tobacco sales ban



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COLIN Montgomerie, the Scots golfer, has called for tobacco sales to be banned.
Montgomerie, who lost his mother Elizabeth to lung cancer in 1991, recently launched an appeal to raise £5.2 million to build a cancer centre in Glasgow.

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  • Last Updated: 09 December 2007 10:07 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Smoking issues
 
1

Maisie from Morningside,

MORNINGSIDE 10/12/2007 01:37:32

I'd like to use this opportunity to call for a ban on golf and also on fat overpaid golfers.

2

iRoy,

10/12/2007 01:43:18

#1
If you wonder why none of us here can take you and the other smokers seriously, it's quite simple we're sick of the denial that you addicts continually show.

3

whatsyourname,

10/12/2007 01:59:51

You know what they shoould do to him, They have had cure for Cancer fo many years, it a billion doller industry,How about the Goverment stopping the Chemtrails, We are moving into an era of policeing and total controll via the chip.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvioxJUL6C0

4

Scullion,

Canada 10/12/2007 02:15:04

#4 No, Glaxo or Pfizer wouldn't allow the government stop them from making gazillions from developing such a product. The greed of private enterprise is our friend in this case.
#3 Quite right; show me a proud happy smoker and I'll show you a liar.

5

iRoy,

10/12/2007 02:30:56

ok weeshooie1, the denial part:

Admit that your smoke is disgusting to others and may harm their health.

6

whatsyourname,

10/12/2007 03:19:59

# 5 you have no idea what your talking about, and if people want to smoke its up to them, you did not whatch the video did you !.......

7

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 06:35:36

#6, weeshooie1, Australia.
Little Hugh should realise that, with declining nos. of smokers, there are not the large nos. employed in the industry as in the past. Indeed, cigarette factories in the U.K. have been steadily closing down for years.
Assuming that every one stopped smoking to-morrow, corner shops and supermarkets would simply drop the product range, and concentrate on other, healthier, lines that smokers would have all their spare cash for. I understand that profit margins on cigarettes are very low, and it would have the benefit of removing the honey pot from local thieves.
Darling Alistair would simply increase taxes and duties in other areas to compensate for the loss of revenue.
O.k. sport?

8

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 08:34:19

#11, weeshooie1, Australia.
Hope all the gloomy doomster pro-smokers read that and take note of evolution. Sounds as if Oz's gain is China's loss.

9

Dougie - Edinburgh,

10/12/2007 09:48:02

12. David from New Mills
You're an intolerant self righteous bigot. I think homosexuality is disgusting and dangerous but I don't go trying to stop you from enjoying it!

10

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 10:07:45

#13, Dougie - Edinburgh.
Save yourself the effort. There's no need.

11

Dougie - Edinburgh,

10/12/2007 10:19:27

#14
Ok :)
But you take my point?
I'm not even a smoker. But why are smokers being persecuted? Banning smoking from restaurants and public bars is fair enough because of the impact on everybody else. Banning smoking from private smoking clubs was completely unnecessary. And now people like you want to ban it altogether. What's the difference between banning smoking and banning homosexuality? Let people do what they want to do so long as it’s kept private. If you find it disgusting, keep away from them when they do it!

12

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 10:43:46

#15, Dougie - Edinburgh.
Actually, I hadn't. Agree about restrictions in enclosed public spaces, but what are/were private smoking clubs?
"People like me" have never advocated a total ban on smoking, just an a glib acceptance of it's disappearance without demur.
Would agree that what goes on in private places needn't concern others, as long as it doesn't frighten the horses, and fumes and excessive noises don't escape.
Why does Dougie seem to have a hang up about homosexuality?

13

Dave from Barra ©,

Western Isles 10/12/2007 10:51:52

Hmmm

What's the damage from passive golfing? Or passive homosexuality?

14

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 10:54:39

#17, Dave from Barra ©, Western Isles.
Misdirected balls, perhaps?

15

G,

dundy 10/12/2007 10:58:14

Smokers are addicts. So don't expect any logical arguments from them.
As for the ban on smoking in public places - it is the best thing that the Labour party did - and the most popoular piece of legislation for years....

16

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 11:18:08

#20, Dugald MacMillan, Livingston.
I agree about the U.S. prohibition failure, hence my not advocating a ban. What I'd really like is more people realising that smoking tobacco and taking other narcotics is a mug's game and give it up. Without demand, the market would evaporate, and gangsters would be left, literally, with a load of junk.
Now perhaps I, at last, understand the homosexuality connection.

17

Phil Waddell,

Bagdad/Ayr 10/12/2007 11:43:18

To be honest I totally agree! not for selfish reasons or for any personal persuit in the abscence of loved ones, but for Scotland as a whole and our childrens futures. On the whole with cliamte change etc I think the damage is already done, all we can do is come up with ways of slowing it, and to be honest the only way of putting a direct stop to its secondly worsening condition is to live back in the dark ages - though a sacrifice I feel is well worth the make! Though as far as tobacco - stop importing it! make it illegal. Now we know this will never happen because... how would the government sustain itself with out the money its gloyfies itself in off the taxing of cigarettes?????? We should stop the importing and build rehab centres for our own sakes. The money they save from treating smoke related dieases (even though there is also the threat of not treating smokers!) will pay this cost and in term be spent better else where! On the brink of dictotorship I understand, but for the good and benefit one the people and its future!

18

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

10/12/2007 11:45:44

What I don't see in this next pointless polaised debate on the evils of tobacco is any concern for for Colin Montgommeries loss even though it was many years age he obviously still feels the pain and for that we should be offering our sympathies, and offering our support for the cancer centre from which we all may benefit.
Where he is quite wrong is to demand prohibition which he must know never works and only causes more problems than it solves. I am glad to see the anti-smoking obsessives here agree with that much and that there are at last some non smokers realising the discrimination and inhuman undemocratic nature of the current ban in this country, hopefully this points to a decrease in the polarisation both the ban and the continuing debate around it.
Once again may I point fellow smokers in the direction of
http://www.electrikcigarette.co.uk
which is a means of either maintaining your habit or
reducing it to zero if you wish. It is also totally legal
to smoke it anywhere you like, is not harmful to the smoker or anyone else, and costs half as much annually as cigarettes.

19

Phil Waddell,

Bagdad/Ayr 10/12/2007 11:46:34

And to add to my above comment - I am 29 years of age, started smoking at the age of 8! with a couple of breaks in between - this is not a non smokers comment!

20

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/12/2007 11:52:06

Dougie.

David from New Mills is a troll. Do not feed him.

As for this golfer. He should stick to hitting little balls around a big bit of grass and keep his nose out of matters that don't concern him.

The unfortunate thing is that there are stupid, sad people around this country nowadays who will take his ranting seriously.

21

Media 1,

cape town 10/12/2007 12:04:27

I never heard Monty say that he wanted cigarettes banned. I only read this article that alleged he had said as much.....Nevertheless, he lost his mum to cancer and sees cigarettes as the reason for her death....

But the truth of the matter is that cigarettes dont kill...Its people who smoke cigarettes that kill themselves! There is a difference.

22

DaveAAA,

Forfarshire 10/12/2007 13:17:18

Colin Montgomerie asking for tobacco to be banned? Has he not read that according to the government, (so it must be true), that obesity will kill him long before the fags will. So pots and black kettles and above all hypocrites.

23

Dougie - Edinburgh,

10/12/2007 14:30:03

16.Smokers aren't allowed to have a bar for themselves. It's illegal. Even a private club. I think that's going too far.

My objections to homosexuality are exactly the same as #7's objections to smoking.

17. Dave from Barra
Not sure about passive homosexuality! But just like smoking is dangerous, homosexuality carries a high risk of AIDs. Is that a reason to ban it? No - let adults decide for themselves.

24

Paul R,

10/12/2007 14:49:40

smoking is pointless - why breathe in through a little rolled up stick of paper with some cr*p in it anyway, regardless of the fact it will do you harm?!

25

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

10/12/2007 18:24:40

29) A somewhat simplistic delivery of obvious fact,
which required no expression, don't you think all smokers know that?

26

NKP,

Newport 10/12/2007 18:33:51

The main point to look at here is at the end of the day, tobacco is an addictive substance, which only exists because it became massively popular and massively taxed prior to it's dangers being fully appreciated. If cannabis had been used first instead,and taken off, it would be legal and tobacco the illegal substance rather than the other way around.

I agree with Colin, tobacco should be illegal as it is no different to current Class C drugs. It's not about banning the choice of the smoker, but about banning a harmful substance.

Also, whoever began the comparisons with homosexuality needs to get a life. The two are totally unrelated and you can get a sexually transmitted disease from any sort of intercourse (hetero, homo, or sheep if that takes your fancy..)

27

NKP,

Newport 10/12/2007 18:46:57

Although further to my last post, I do concede that a total ban on cigarettes would more likely than not increase the "Drug trade" in the country and cause all sorts of new problems. Perhaps I was overly hasty in my judgement. I do think, we should certainly try and discourage people from smoking though. Only when smoker's numbers are at a low enough level, can we ban the substance without any black market side effects.

28

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

10/12/2007 19:02:37

31) & 32) displays convoluted thinking, Smoking any sort of weed it is mixed with tobacco in the spliff thus
you are getting a double hit in the case of tobacco
the addictive substance is the nicotine whic some research is now showing to have benefits 1t is the
alleged 3999 other chemical traces in the cigarette which are alledgedly harmful to the smoker, though
the jury is still out on how much they harm anyone else.
If smoker numbers ever drop to such a low level a banwould be costly and superflous. Have you never heard of the law of diminishing returns

29

NKP,

Newport 10/12/2007 19:56:05

"Have you never heard of the law of diminishing returns"


No actually, care to explain?

Have you ever heard of using full stops and sentence structure? I fail to see where in your post you mention the benefit of nicotine? Care to edit?

30

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 20:34:39

#22, Phil Waddell, Bagdad/Ayr.
"how would the government sustain itself with out the money its gloyfies itself in off the taxing of cigarettes??????"
Doesn't really matter, as they'd get it somehow. Remember Window Tax and the Boston Tea Party?

31

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 20:55:38

#23, Ghost Of Scotland Past.
I've no problem with smokers turning to electronic substitutes, sweetie cigarettes or even baby's dummies, just as long as there's no fug.

32

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 21:03:38

#25, Petrol Man.
P.h. should perhaps be comforted by the fact that DfNM is well fed, and impervious to his biased twaddle about so-called trolls.
Why should COLIN Montgomerie, the Scots golfer, be any less entitled to express his opinions than "stupid, sad people " like Petrol Man? Simple answer:- no reason at all.

33

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 21:08:25

#28, Dougie - Edinburgh.
Duly elected M.P.'s by a majority didn't agree.

34

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 21:10:02

#29-31.
Quite so.

35

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

10/12/2007 21:44:52

39) Is that the english translation of the japanese
ahso?

36

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/12/2007 21:52:11

#40, Ghost Of Scotland Past.
No vulgar pun intended, I trust.

37

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

10/12/2007 22:07:55

41) If the cap fits...

38

Riverkidca,

Canada 10/12/2007 23:24:54

Good news for all of you who don't like the smell of 'baccy smoke - From Canada via Japan:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=03...

39

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 11/12/2007 12:39:36

#43, DaveAA, Forfarshire.
Irn-bru, perhaps?

40

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 11/12/2007 19:21:58

#47, chas winfield, suffolk.
Chas may wish to reflect over a couple of comments from the link, viz:-
"The smell of cigarette smoke is part of what lets people know to get out of the way," and
"There's no lesser amount of smoke," he said. "It just doesn't register in the same way."
#45. I've no idea of Colin Montgomerie's physical appearance, nor of his golfing prowess. Perhaps chas could challenge him to a round and let us know how he got on?

41

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

11/12/2007 20:24:46

45) I don't have any knowledge of any figures which bear this out, but guess you have a good point.
I wonder how much alcohol abuse costs the country?
But unlike the first smoker and drinkers make a hefty
contribution to the economy through tax and duty.

42

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 11/12/2007 20:57:26

#49, chas winfield, suffolk.
Pretty weak response. Perhaps the golf match will go better.

43

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 11/12/2007 21:01:24

#50, Ghost Of Scotland Past.
GoSP should reflect on the VAT and Corporation Tax that all those Mars Bars and Big Macs engender.

44

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 11/12/2007 22:17:20

#53. chas winfield, suffolk.
Not clear just what point chas feels he has proven.
Chas wouldn't have a problem in trouncing me at golf, in that I've never played, regarding the game as a waste of a good walk.
Why does clairvoyant chas feel I favour Mars or Big Macs, as neither appeals to me? Stick to the golf, old chap, as he must be good at something. Drinking Hoegaarden perhaps?

45

claire,

14/12/2007 16:46:14
Colin Montgomerie should stick to what he does. If he wants to build a cancer unit good on him. What gives him the right to start calling for tobacco sales to be banned? Would he be shouting for cars to be banned if his mother had been killed in a car crash?
46

banhater,

14/12/2007 19:28:08
Once again smoking carries the can for all cancer causes. The transport nuclear, and chemical industries must feel tobacco was heaven sent. http://tinyurl.com/2kbzao

Presumably Mrs Montgomery lived in a vacuum, ate all the right foods, took plenty of exercise, had the right genetic profile, and lived a perfect existence apart from her single vice of smoking tobacco.If so, then she will be the first person to have smoking as cause of death on her death certificate.


47

english charlie,

suffolk 15/12/2007 09:46:14
They should ban golf. Plant trees all over golf courses and save the planet.

 

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