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Published Date: 20 January 2007
NEARLY half of all Scottish parents of toddlers believe smacking their children is necessary to discipline them.
A Scottish Executive study, Growing Up In Scotland, revealed that 42 per cent agreed or strongly agreed with the statement: "It may not be a good thing to smack, but sometimes it is the only thing that will work." Thirty per cent of babies' parents also agreed with the statement.

The findings come a week after The Scotsman revealed that a UN watchdog is preparing a report that will criticise the Executive for failing to outlaw smacking.

The parents of around 8,000 children aged up to three were questioned for the study, which will track the children's lives into their teens.

Robert Brown, the deputy education minister, said the ambitious study will help the Executive to plan policy.

He said: "We want all youngsters to get the best possible start in life. The information will help ensure that future generations grow up in safe, supportive environments and have every opportunity to realise their full potential."

Last night, child-welfare campaigners said they were concerned that so many parents find smacking acceptable.

Tom Roberts, the head of public affairs at Children 1st, described the figures as "extremely worrying" and said: "Extensive data has shown that children who are frequently hit develop more behavioural problems, particularly aggression, as well as emotional and mental-health problems."

The Executive backtracked from a plan five years ago to ban smacking children under three after complaints from parents and warnings the law would be unenforceable. It outlawed hitting with an implement such as a belt, slipper or cane.

Scotland, the early years: the trials and tribulations of being born here


DRINKING


Mothers living in more deprived areas were less likely to say they drank while pregnant than those in less deprived areas. Sixty-five per cent of mothers in the latter group never drank alcohol while pregnant, compared to 82 per cent in the most deprived.

SMOKING


About one in four mothers said they smoked during pregnancy - 42 per cent were in the most-deprived areas, compared with 9 per cent in the least-deprived. Of those who smoked in pregnancy, half said they smoked "most days" and half "occasionally".

BIRTH


A quarter of Scots mothers said they had a Caesarian section, but the figures suggest it was not because they were "too posh to push". Only 12 per cent had the C-section before labour began, while 13 per cent chose to do so once the baby was on the way.

GRANDPARENTS


Four per cent of children had five or more grandparents, indicating a rise in the number of so-called "blended families", where the parents of step-mothers and fathers can act as grandparents. Most children in the survey had at least one grandparent.

PREGNANCIES


Sixty per cent of pregnancies were described as planned, but the survey stresses that this does not mean the rest were unwanted. Although 23 per cent were not planned at all, 17 per cent said they did not do anything to prevent it happening.

TELEVISION


The survey suggests that the television is often used as a surrogate baby-sitter when parents have their hands full. More than half of babies (53 per cent) had watched TV in the past week, as had 95 per cent of the toddlers covered in the research.

HOUSEWORK


Equality of the sexes is still a long way off when it comes to housework. The majority of household tasks, such as cooking, ironing and cleaning, were carried out by the mother, even when both parents worked for more than 16 hours a week.

BREASTFEEDING


Around 60 per cent of children were breastfed. Those living in the least-deprived areas were twice as likely to have been as those in disadvantaged areas. The survey says "challenges remain" in promoting breastfeeding among the more deprived groups.

CHILDCARE


A quarter of parents found meeting childcare costs difficult or very difficult. Costs vary considerably across the country, the research found, suggesting that the demand for affordable and available childcare has not been met.

The full article contains 693 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 20 January 2007 1:01 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Smacking ban
 
1

Guga,

Rockall 20/01/2007 03:25:36

The UN should have more important things to be concerned about, like the continued war crimes of Bliar and Bush, the Israelis and numerous others. They should keep their nose out of internal Scottish affairs.

As for smacking, it is definitely needed as an option. It should also be legal to give wee neds and schemies a good kicking, as that is the only language they understand.

2

Sinnerman,

Middle East 20/01/2007 05:15:08

It seems disproportionate that the UN worries about smacking not being outlawed in Scotland and does nothing about outlawing capital punishment among its members.

3

Sinnerman,

Middle East 20/01/2007 05:16:58

The section on Television explains where Celebrity Big Brother gets its audience...

4

Pete39,

Tassy 20/01/2007 05:23:36

Smacking kids has been a parent's privilege before the beginning of time. It is a natural instinct to administer a small punishment to instill a knowledge that the world is not always a wonderful place. Two types of entities have been against this, the charitable organisation looking for a wee earner to pay their executives, and the politician hoping to gain votes. Like any Christian, (non denominational), I hope they get what they deserve.

5

Theo,

Richmond Va., USA 20/01/2007 07:52:56

When I was growing up in the early 50's if you did something bad enough it seemed like every mother in the neighborhood (this was in a time when mothers stayed home to raise their family) somehow you did something wrong and it seemed like each gave you a good "smack on the rear" just to let you know they were watching and you knew they honestly cared about you and wanted you to "grow up right"! parents did not seem to mind this mild form of discipline meted out by the kind hands of the neighbor. Every child on the block was a member of every neighbors family. Anytime, day or night, you could go to any house and ask to use the bathroom, or maybe they would call you in for lunch or dinner (with Moms permission of course).

My mothers form of discipline was a switch. The neighbor next5 door had a really beautiful willow tree. I either my sister or I was bad we had to go next door, ask the neighbor if I could get a switch off their tree and believe me you had better ASK. Then I would have to go to the tree and pick out a "satisfactory switch" to take to Mom. Like a drill sergeant with me looking on she would check the quality and stoutness of my selection and it had better meet her expectations or else worse was to befall me. I bring this up just to say a swat on the pants is no big deal. When the kids are little they have diapers, underwear, pants and who knows what else on so the punishment is buffered down greatly. If done right by the time they are out of diapers a stern look is usually all it takes to straighten them up

6

rab, glasgow,

20/01/2007 07:54:59

It should be legal to smack msp,s with a stick' when they get caught with false expences claims and also for introducing sh*t peices of nannystate legislation.

7

eric,

Lothian 20/01/2007 08:55:51

Ask the 60s /70s Generation .You dont need to Do growing up studies,

8

Messalina,

20/01/2007 09:00:44

I think those asking this stupid question require a very hefty smack, then made to sit on a hardwood chair!

Twits!!!

9

Isabel,

20/01/2007 10:15:36

Roberts is talking a load of manure. A smack on the backside or leg doesn't do any harm. Behavioural problems occur when parents are too lazy to discipline their children, or lacked discipline in their own lives. You can see the results in the supermarket when children are running wild and bumping into other shoppers. I rarely hear a parent telling their precious little darlings to behave. This makes shopping an unpleasant experience for other shoppers. Children can be out vandalising property and nobody can tell them off without getting a mouthful of abuse in return. There is no point in complaining to parents as you could receive another mouthful of abuse. Our police can't touch them any longer and, as a result, the behaviour gets worse. It is a very true saying that if you spare the rod you spoil the child. I am not talking about almost beating them to death - just giving them a short sharp smack at an early age if other methods don't work. Fortunately, my child didn't require a smack very often as going without sweets or visit to the cinema was a pretty effective punishment.

10

Blarney,

Edinburgh 20/01/2007 11:53:31

I gre up with a lot of physical discipline, sometimes over the top. Neither my wife or myself have ever used physical violence to discipline our child, there is no need for it at all, it reflects more on the parents abilites to deal with situations. A smack does not have the same effect as no TV for a week, no PS2 for a week, no going out for a week, extra reading, sums etc etc. The trouble is too many try this but cave in after 1 or 2 nights. Our children have turned out fine, and have not learned that inflicting violence on someone acceptable.

11

maestra,

20/01/2007 12:24:14

Correct, no 12!

The important lesson your children have learned is that inflicting violence on someone is unacceptable.

The UN is quite right to pay attention to the issue of hitting children (as well as to capital punishment and war crimes by world leaders) - don't you see the connection?

In the same way that vaccines are not an excuse for neglecting to provide good nutrition and sanitary conditions for children, smacking is not a excuse for actual parenting. If we start raising generations of well-parented (without hitting) kids who know that inflicting violence on someone is unacceptable, we might need the UN less...

12

Jimbo's flats a mess,

Montrose 20/01/2007 14:50:10

I agree with No1. Taser guns and cattle prods should be legalized for use on neds and schemies.

13

True Brit,

20/01/2007 16:39:12

that´s the problem today with children, a good kick up the backside now and then never did nothing but good.

14

Isabel,

20/01/2007 16:48:34

#12 Blarney
#13 maestra

You are not with your children 24/7 so how do you know what they get up to? I regularly see the bad behaviour of children from one of our so-called better schools. It could be that their parents are middle class twits who think their little darlings can do no wrong and see no reason to discipline them. My one was given the odd slap when other methods failed and has turned out well. I am constantly told by others that she is kind and caring person. She has respect for other people, is not racist and tries to live a good life so I can't wish for anything more. An odd slap does no harm and those of us who choose this method of discipline at times are not failures. The failures are the ones who spout rubbish about not smacking and end up having children who whose behaviour is thoroughly objectionable.

15

cristi,

usa 20/01/2007 17:07:37

lets see if i have this right, an occasional, well thought out smack of a naughty child is wicked, evil and completly inexcusable according to the UN and so called "liberal" busybodies, while murdering innocent men, women and children in Darfur and the wanton rape of innocent women by some UN peace keepers is completely acceptable to both.

sounds like what a person educated beyond their intelligence would say.

16

AD,

20/01/2007 17:29:03

#15 Isabel - perhaps the reason the middle class kids are so rowdy is that they know they can get away with it. Their parents are too busy to bother about them because they're away earning money to pay for their posh school.

Give women (or men, I'm not sexist!) more incentive to stay at home to look after the children they've brought into this world - either that or stop them from having children if all they're going to do is hand them over to someone else - and I'd bet you'd notice a difference.

On the other side of the scale - in "ned" land - the parents need to be taught how to be proper parents. Some of them smack because they're too lazy to properly discipline their children but I would bet that for most of them it's same treatment they were given so they really don't know any different.

I totally agree - smacking really should only be a last resort. I'm lucky enough to be able to stay at home and look after my children. I can dedicate as much time to them as they need and will do practically anything other than smacking - don't get me wrong, this isn't an easy job by any means - but so far (touch wood) they're turning out just fine!

17

Doreen,

The Cyber shebeen 20/01/2007 18:16:26

I have seen parents smack their children on the face with the force of an adult....absolutely disgusting and they should be charged with assault. A smack on the behind is another thing but where are the boundaries?

18

AD,

20/01/2007 18:18:20

Jeezo Doreen, that's assault, pure and simple.

What worries me is that if they do that in public what on earth goes on behind closed doors??

19

rab, glasgow,

20/01/2007 19:24:57

18. Doreen, The Cyber shebeen / If you have been privy to such attacks on kids 'then why did you not report it to the police?

20

Doreen,

The Cyber shebeen 20/01/2007 20:20:00

One occasion was down the barras and the woman shot off with the child with me screaming abuse behind her....no sign of the coppers anywhere, otherwise I would have. Another occasion was in a country I did not speak the language, on the subway...the chap was the father and him and his mate were giving me daggers...difficult situation to be in....I was on my own and did not want to risk being attacked...sad but true....especially with 2 suitcases and a rucksack in tow.

21

Isonomia,

20/01/2007 23:44:28

I'm sick and tired of these do gooders who are by far the worst abusers of children in history. Healthy happy children normally have bruises on them ... not from angry parents but from normal childhood play ... falling over playing football, skidding down the banisters, an accidental wooden sword on the head.

In comparison to the knocks and bumps of normal childhood like a normal parental smack is so mild that if it did not come from a parent the child would just shrug it off.

Luckily my children are old enough not to need smacking any longer but I always swore that I would smack any of my children at any age that ran into a road whatever the law said. As a parent I have to do what is right not what these perverted politicians tell us, and the right thing is that all children should associate running into the road with not only parental displeasure but with real and immediate pain.... that is the best way to keep them safe!

22

david craig,

australia 21/01/2007 03:24:03

a scot down under
bang smack on the truth #15 our familly got a smack when and if it required i.e. you did something you should not have done and if you if more parents accepted thier responsible roles we would not have to put up with this so called new generation which bye the way started with the late 60s.early 70.s generation now look what we have?????

23

Scullion,

Canada 21/01/2007 04:07:05

The argument involving corporal punishment went to the Supreme Court of Canada who, in January 2004, declared spanking of a "minor corrective force of a transitory and trifling nature" to be legal-for children between 2 and 12. The highest court knew of the difficulties of making hundreds of thousands of parents criminals under the law. No UN body has ever criticised Canada-hard luck if they did.
We should phase out striking children through education and not interdiction.

24

Theo,

Richmond Va., USA 21/01/2007 06:47:35

#17 @ #22
I agree that you have your feet on the ground. Those who are trying to equate a quick smack on butt or legs with outright beating needs some Psych. help to get over some childhood trauma that they have repressed. Ask any "reasonable child" today if there is a difference between a quick smack and beating and they will look at you and say "damn right, I just hope you know the difference!".

25

sandy,

USA 21/01/2007 10:23:56

#23--David Craig--totally agree!

26

Alison1,

Edinburgh 21/01/2007 11:27:10

Smacking, to a limited extent, would appear to be natural behaviour. Just look at how a mother cat disciplines her kittens when they step out of line - a clout round the ears soon puts them right!

27

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21/01/2007 14:54:42
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