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Published Date: 31 May 2009
Kenny MacAskill was last night facing fresh moves to remove him from office while the convicted murderer John Burt Brown remained on the run from Castle Huntly open prison, writes Tom Peterkin.
Scotland on Sunday understands that there is a growing feeling within Labour that the party should revisit the possibility of forcing a motion of no confidence in the justice secretary at Holyrood.

Senior figures within Labour privately believe t
hat the option should be looked at following the events of last week, which saw Alex Salmond fail to reveal to parliament that Brown had absconded.

Last night one senior Labour MSP said: "This has gone beyond a joke. The onus is on Salmond and if he fails to act to get rid of him, it will put the parties in a difficult position. If nothing is done I think it would be right to return to the issue of a vote of no confidence.

"But one thing is for sure, Kenny MacAskill should go and Salmond should make him go

then come back into the parliament to apologise for misleading parliament."

Salmond has stood by his justice secretary, but has come in for criticism himself after he did not mention that Brown was missing when quizzed on the open prison system at First Minister's Questions last Thursday.

Another senior Labour MSP said: "In terms of a vote of no confidence – that type of momentum is starting to gather."

Before it was revealed that Brown absconded there had already been much speculation that opposition parties would agree to force a no-confidence motion, but back then a firm proposal failed to materialise.

But the fact that Brown is now at large so soon after the outcry that greeted the escape of armed robber Brian "the Hawk" Martin

from the same prison has led to a no-confidence motion being discussed once more.

In another move, Scottish Labour is to investigate why it was decided to wait 24 hours before informing the public about the missing prisoner. Salmond and MacAskill knew on Wednesday afternoon that Brown had failed to return to Castle Huntly outside Dundee. His disappearance was not made public until 4pm the following day after First Minister's Questions, when Tayside Police appealed for information.

Labour shadow secretary for justice, Richard Baker, has said he will use the Freedom of Information Act to find out if the delay was influenced by politicians or civil servants. The SNP said the release of information was an "operational matter" entirely in the hands of police.

"Kenny MacAskill needs to make it absolutely clear that there has been no attempt to cover up," Baker said.It appears odd that when a dangerous murderer went on the run that the public were not informed for over 24 hours. I intend to clear up this matter by finding out what contact went on between the Scottish Government, ministers, the Scottish Prison Service and Tayside Police.

"Alex Salmond failed to mention the escape to the Scottish Parliament at First Minister's Question Time. The public need to be assured that the decision not to inform the public was in no way politically motivated."

A spokesman for MacAskill criticised Baker for "questioning the procedures of the police in the recovery of absconded prisoners".





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  • Last Updated: 30 May 2009 10:58 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Scottish prisons
 
1

ratzo,

30/05/2009 23:23:25
Ho hum.

Nae chance:

"PRISON OFFICERS have accused opposition MSPs of undermining the service and whipping up public alarm over absconding prisoners to help them win votes in next week's European elections...

Phil Fairlie, vice chair of the Prison Officers Association Scotland, accused Labour and the Tories of using the issue to distract from their own parties' problems over MPs' expenses, and to score points against the SNP.

He said: "I don't think there's any doubt that the opposition parties have MacAskill in their sights. "I'm assuming that's because there's an election imminent. They're doing this to take the debate away from what has been focusing the minds of the public for the last two weeks - expenses."

- from the Sunday Herald. [Which is a newspaper].
2

The Online Scot,

Scotland 30/05/2009 23:41:43
More and more people are beginning to realise the unhealthy relationship between the Scottish press and Labour.

The MacAskill campaign is reminiscent of the failed Trump campaign and is very clearly an attempt at diverting attention from Labour's role in the Westminster expenses scandal.

Notice that there are no articles pursuing Scottish Labour MP's.
3

The Online Scot,

Scotland 30/05/2009 23:46:29
"Last night one senior Labour MSP said: "This has gone beyond a joke. The onus is on Salmond and if he fails to act to get rid of him, it will put the parties in a difficult position. If nothing is done I think it would be right to return to the issue of a vote of no confidence."

Excellent, let's see if Labour have the metaphorical 'spheres' to go ahead. Those of us of an independence bent would be ecstatic if they did.

A vote of confidence, if won by a unionist coalition, would then demand an election.

I wonder who will blink first, Iain Gray or Salmond?
4

TheUnionisBritish,

31/05/2009 00:11:29
Why didn't Cathy Jamieson not resign when there were more failures to return back when she was in charge?

Is there an election in the offing?
5

Edward,

31/05/2009 00:26:35
Labour are now very very desperate, there is no doubt about it. In the UK wide polls conducted by the Sunday Telegraph, Labour are trailing the Libdems and are in third place at 16%. The lowest for over 20 years!
Labour in Scotland have already embarked on a campaign of targeting specific Scottish Government ministers using the Scottish media, to try and smear the SNP and to divert attention from the expenses scandal.
Labour are finished. The will do badly in the euro election and they will loose the general election.
6

Iainbroch,

31/05/2009 00:27:27
This is getting boring, cant the SoS print some other Lieboar Party trash7

Time to get real - if we are to replace every Justice minister everytime time someone absconds then we will be replacing them every week. So after 128 weeks we would have no one left in the parliament to do the job of any political persuasion.

The Sos and the Scotsman and Lieboar Party and the Fib Dums and the Tories but the Lieboar Party in particular are now starting to look really stupid!
7

hoblar,

31/05/2009 00:32:16
From the article:

"Before it was revealed that Brown absconded there had already been much speculation that opposition parties would agree to force a no-confidence motion, but back then a firm proposal failed to materialise."

Is that "Gordon" Brown then?

I am assured that millions of people, including members of his own party and government were talking about having "no confidence" in him a year ago, and now his alleged "bounce' has deflated, the "no confidence" in the quote is apt and ironic when you consider that this alleged Scottish paper is playing politics for a rather tainted Labour party before the Euros.

What a joke.

8

hoblar,

31/05/2009 00:45:11
"PRISON OFFICERS have accused opposition MSPs of undermining the service and whipping up public alarm over absconding prisoners to help them win votes in next week's European elections...

Phil Fairlie, vice chair of the Prison Officers Association Scotland, accused Labour and the Tories of using the issue to distract from their own parties' problems over MPs' expenses, and to score points against the SNP.

He said: "I don't think there's any doubt that the opposition parties have MacAskill in their sights. "I'm assuming that's because there's an election imminent. They're doing this to take the debate away from what has been focusing the minds of the public for the last two weeks - expenses."

This statement from the Scottish Prison Officers Association is a very damning statement against the unionist parties playing at politics because they are up a creek without a boat let alone a paddle as the European elections loom on June 4th.

I find it difficult to believe that the writer of the article felt compelled to omit the fat that the Scottish Government, and particularly Kenny MacCaskill, have actually REDUCED the number of Open Prison Escapees to almost SINGLE FIGURES in TWO years when labour left Holyrood with the unenviable escapee number being closer to 100 escapees per year.

The omission of the fact of the massive improvement of escaped prisoners under the current Scottish Government, and the fact that the Prison Service representatives DISAGREE with Scottish labour and their motives, (and that the public aren't exactly believing this labour spin either) speaks volumes.
9

gus1940,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 00:53:19
Do the useless tubes in Scottish Labour and their cheerleaders at Johnston Press not realise that the Scottish Electorate are not stupid and that their pathetic attempts to divert attention away from the cesspit of corruption that is Westminster will not work.

Is it too much to expect that one of these days Scottish Labour might actually come up with at least one constructive policy instead of their continuous and pathetically inept destructive criticism of the SNP Administration.
10

hoblar,

31/05/2009 00:54:39
Scotsman main online article headline right now:

"Brown plans major reshuffle as poll shows Labour faces election disaster"

And THIS article reckons:

"Scotland on Sunday understands that there is a growing feeling within Labour that the party should revisit the possibility of forcing a motion of no confidence in the justice secretary at Holyrood."

Wow! "Scottish" Labour want to pick on Kenny MacCaskill because he has reduced the escapee levels in Scotland to unprecedented levels!

Which is the political party and who would be the minister from the two quotes represented above that better worry, (taken directly from this rather tainted newspaper) that should consider purchasing a few pairs of adult sized pampers in the next few months I wonder?

11

Fifi la Bonbon,

31/05/2009 01:09:54
Forbye all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, what wouldf be so bad if the parliament voted no confidence in Mr McAskill? If he loses the vote then that sends a message, and if he wins it sends a message too.

Mister Salmond could give the job to Ms Hyslop, who is clearly unhappy with her present role.

And he could promote Christina McKelvie!
12

redcliffe62,

31/05/2009 01:16:18
the article, if there is semblance of balance, should have compared what has happened under the snp and labour previously. if escapes were 10 times higher that is one thing, when they are 10 times less then the suggestion is clearly ridiculous.
un-named labour press releasing and lobbying sources need to be named and try to explain why improving the system, which clearly will never be perfect is a reason to resign. not that improving the system is something labour have a lot of experience about anyway!
13

Brianwci,

31/05/2009 01:16:19
Another desperate attempt by London Labour to divert attention from its own home made disaster of sleaze.

MacAskill has no need to even consider resigning.

And could our over enthusiastic Scotsman journos accept that inmates do not go 'on the run' from Open Prisons they walk out or fail to return after outside work or in the case of Mr brown, Home Leave.

But then fail to return is nowhere near as good as go 'on the run'. We don't want facts to get in the way of a good story now do we?
14

frank mcbride,

lusitania 31/05/2009 01:21:54
Since when, in any sane situation, was a 500% improvement, in performance, an reason to sack someone?
15

frank mcbride,

lusitania 31/05/2009 01:24:17
Oh! I see that David Maddox has forgotten to post his by-line.

I wonder how long this comment will last?
16

frank mcbride,

lusitania 31/05/2009 01:34:43
#18, cu ceallach.

SURELY NOT!!!!

NuLabour, with the moral compass of the son of the Manse would never stoop to such lenghts.
17

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31/05/2009 02:00:49
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ubinworryinmasheep,

Getorfmyland 31/05/2009 02:11:40
The fact that this 'dangerous' prisoner has actually served 30 years and must have been considered safe for an open prison leading up to his eventual release has been ommitted from the news as well.Fair enough if he had been a mass murderer and had only served 5 years it would have been a story but i doubt he is a threat to the public. Also all this rubbish about not informing the numpties at FM question time shows how pathetic they all are. The Justice Minister could hardly tell them about the 'escape' when the police were probably waiting for him to turn up at a relatives house and so risk his re capture.
19

Cabbie,

Unionist free Scotland 31/05/2009 02:46:12
The unionist press are really getting deperate as well as the unionist parties.

They are so scared of loosing all the power they have had for 300 years. It's coming to an end.
20

Observer,,

Glasgow 31/05/2009 03:18:35
So bring forward a motion of no confidence then - what are they waiting for ? As the premise behind these articles is complete and utter mince, and the argument that Macaskill needs to resign can be demolished by a 5 yr old, I sincerely look forward to Iain Gray bringing it on. Whatever ''it'' is.

Couldn't be that they are just bluffing could it ?
21

Observer,,

Glasgow 31/05/2009 03:21:39
Let's just be clear the convicted murderer we are talking about was sentenced in the seventies, and has already been released. He was recalled when on license for traffic offences - so we have a dangerous parker on the loose. He didn't return to Castle Huntly after a period of home leave but there is no suggestion whatsoever that he poses a risk to the public.
22

Observer,,

Glasgow 31/05/2009 03:26:25
The Sunday Herald - being a real newspaper - have a relevant article on this. The Prison Officers Association and the Howard League for Penal Reform are backing Macaskill. 'Nuff said.
23

Linda,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 06:24:15
Labour official is right, this is beyond a joke. Scotsman publications have still to mention that the number of prisioners who have gone AWOL from open prisons has reduced from 79 under Labour / Lid Dems to 16 thanks to measures introduced by Kenny MacAskill.
24

donald,

glasgow 31/05/2009 06:29:33
Why didn't they call for resignations during their own terms of office, when the situation was much worse?
25

donald,

glasgow 31/05/2009 06:30:44
Why does the Hootsmon not call for resignations over the failing state of this Onionist rag?
26

Colkitto,

River Clyde 31/05/2009 06:32:29
The next big scandal that should be exposed is the anti-democratic unionist press we have here in Scotland !
Without doubt, the Labour party especially, are feeding newspapers like the Scotland on Sunday/The Scotsman and The Record,anti-SNP press releases.
It's not healthy democratically to have newspapers with any party allegiance.
Just give us unbiased coverage !

27

smokey joe 1,

31/05/2009 07:01:46
"Labour shadow secretary for justice, Richard Baker, has said he will use the Freedom of Information Act to find out if the delay was influenced by politicians or civil servants. Baker has certainly got his knickers in a twist so much so that he is making an @rse of himself with his pathetic labour BS.
What a sad deluded fool he is.
28

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 31/05/2009 07:15:00
I see precious little support for the Unionist position on this thread.

I agree with the suggestion that Iain Gray is not up to the job. He will come out of this debacle very badly.
29

Stan Butler,

31/05/2009 07:52:08

Tick Tock.
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31/05/2009 08:13:33
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JR Ewing,

Aberdeen 31/05/2009 08:13:41
I believe this garbage was spoon fed to Peterkin by Haw Haw's agents who apparently have taken to working in pairs. Was it "Gillian and Barry from Port Seton" or the "The Conniff Family, from Wester Ross" or even the "McDonald family from Sauchie"
32

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31/05/2009 08:25:29
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Don Roberto,

31/05/2009 08:41:51
The great irony here is that in order to force a motion of no confidence, the opposition would require three-quarters of Parliament to vote against MacAskill. As our colonial chums, the septics say, do the math.
34

TWC,

exLabour 31/05/2009 08:51:42
Another attempt to divert our attention from Elmer's office or Westminster dityering over expenses.

When are Brown or the Polis going to deal with the cheats.
35

brownlie,

31/05/2009 08:57:32
35 Doctor Death,

Good morning, Doctor,

Hope you haven't been too busy paying visits to unfortunates in Iraq during the night.

I think that anyone comparing MacAskill's record as Justice Minister, compared to my pal Cathy's and to that of Charles Clark as Home Secretary, over similar issues would be quite surprised that Labour had the gall to even contemplate a motion of "no confidence".

It would appear that "contemplation" is all they intend to do despite the head-line on this article reading "MacAskill facing Holyrood showdown".

Check out the second para in the article. "The Scotland on Sunday UNDERSTANDS that there is a GROWING FEELING within Labour that the party should REVISIT the POSSIBILITY .....".

That para is strangely at odds with the head-line which gives the clear impression that this "facing Holyrood showdown" is imminent.

36

Jimmy Le Pie,

31/05/2009 09:06:40
Stan Butler,

How's your party's(with Tory help of course) privatisation of the Royal Mail coming along?

What with all the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption's, sleaze and corruption stealing the headlines have your comrades slipped it through its 2nd reading yet???

There was me foolishly thinking the Tories did privatisation???


VOTE SNP
37

Queen D,

31/05/2009 09:19:57
From Guido this morning,
Multi-millionaire Labour backbencher Mohammed Sarwar claimed £100,000 to cover mortgage interest that he paid from an account with a Swiss bank. Tax needn’t be taxing…
38

Queen D,

31/05/2009 09:20:20
Oh what a tangled web......
39

brownlie,

31/05/2009 09:38:00
32 Stan Butler

The brevity of that comment makes it by far your best posting ever.
40

A. Mcleod,

Highland 31/05/2009 09:39:49
The family of Wick man Kevin Mcleod are convinced that a prisoner on weekend release Murdered their son in 1997.

The authorities will not disclose this information.Why?

Is this the reason this case has been covered up from the very outset ?

MSP Jamie Stone is to table a Written Question this week to the Justice Secretary regarding this prisoners movements at the time of Kevins death.

Will MacAskill give Mr Stone a definitive answer or will MacAskill not want to be caught out as being mendacious.

Forget the Data Protection Act.

It is in the public interest to disclose this information and whether their is another murderer on the loose.

WATCH THIS SPACE !

http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/6660/Prisoner_details_bid_goes_on.html

FOI Decision 201/2007 Mr Allan McLeod and the Scottish Prison Service

Request for dates of temporary release for a named prisoner

Applicant: Mr Allan McLeod
Authority: Scottish Prison Service
Case No: 200700676
Decision Date: 30 October 2007

20.I have examined the information contained within the electronic PR2 records that have been supplied to my Office by the Ministers. These records contain information that would allow confirmation of whether (and, if so, when) the named prisoner had been granted temporary release. I have noted the Ministers' comments that they did not consider the information to be sufficiently accurate to enable the SPS to identify whether it fell within the scope of Mr McLeod's request i.e. to identify periods of day or weekend release as requested by Mr McLeod.

21.Having examined this information and the wording of Mr McLeod's request, I am satisfied that the information does in fact fall within the scope of the request. I must therefore disagree with the Ministers' assertion that the recorded information was insufficiently accurate to enable the SPS to identify whether the information was held. I consider that the SPS placed too narrow an interp
41

A. Mcleod,

31/05/2009 09:45:27
Continued from No-47 Kevin Mcleod Case

20.I have examined the information contained within the electronic PR2 records that have been supplied to my Office by the Ministers. These records contain information that would allow confirmation of whether (and, if so, when) the named prisoner had been granted temporary release. I have noted the Ministers' comments that they did not consider the information to be sufficiently accurate to enable the SPS to identify whether it fell within the scope of Mr McLeod's request i.e. to identify periods of day or weekend release as requested by Mr McLeod.

21.Having examined this information and the wording of Mr McLeod's request, I am satisfied that the information does in fact fall within the scope of the request. I must therefore disagree with the Ministers' assertion that the recorded information was insufficiently accurate to enable the SPS to identify whether the information was held. I consider that the SPS placed too narrow an interpretation on the wording of the request and, as a result, I consider the SPS was wrong to inform Mr McLeod that the information was no longer recorded.

Deputy Crown Agent Nov 2007
Whether Mr ------------ or anyone else was held at Castle Huntly Prison at any other time is information not held routinely by Crown Office or the Procurator Fiscal and there is presently no proper basis at present for us to seek to obtain it.

Central Scotland Chief Constable Andrew Cameron 2002
" It does not lie within the remit of this enquiry to investigate the issue of ----------- ----------- imprisonment.
42

Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 10:01:12
Many of us would welcome SLAB's no-confidence vote. What is there to be feart of after all ;-)

But as an aside, what would be SLAB's alternative to this current open-prison regime ? ALL parties have supported the release of many convicted criminals back into the community, via these intermediate open prisons. In doing so, the risk of escape is ever present. It doesn't matter what the prison service and psych reports say, a handful will always decide to head for the exit door. And you can't always predict *which* convicts will breach these conditions.

So. If SLAB's position is NO to open prisons, and NO to the transition of convicted convicts through these same prisons thats fine. Its a sustainable enough position and a solution that would put an end to ALL these kind of escapes. But is that what they're suggesting? Do they want a change in this policy ? Well, it's not what I'm reading. All I'm reading is a political attack on MacAskill. Its as transparent as that.

No confidence it is then. If SLAB had the ba's to do it though. they'd do it ... and not just send daily press packs to The PravdaMan. Bring it on..if they dare... I'll be happy to campaign 7 days a week in this kind of weather LOL !
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McGinty,

Glasgow & Aberdeen 31/05/2009 10:04:49
#2 The Online Scot,

'The MacAskill campaign is reminiscent of the failed Trump campaign and is very clearly an attempt at diverting attention from Labour's role in the Westminster expenses scandal.'

Not sure what's meant by that - are you referring to the Scotsman's coverage of Trump's or Salmond's role in this? It probably didn't have much effect on either. The press probably did Salmond a favour by stopping him from getting too involved and committing political suicide. It could have a similar effect here in forcing Mr. Macaskill to get his act together before he's in more serious trouble. No heads rolled after the Reliance failures, so I doubt if any will here.
44

Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 10:38:58
I'm sure that many have already read this story this morning... "Scottish Labour MP's electrician abducted by aliens."

http://tinyurl.com/Devine-alien-abduction

If you haven't... then pour yourself a coffee, let the sun flood in the windows, read the story ... and LAUGH !
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Number 6,

Germany 31/05/2009 11:09:46
What kind of media has developed in Scotland that they would still be running this story from this angle. Again, "Scotsman" you need reminding, that escapes are at an ALL TIME LOW!!!!!!!!!!!. under the SNP.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than the succesion of wretched unionista parties that went before them. It is shameful that you choose to back the unionistas here. Just how stupid are you going to look and feel when the hectoring, policy free rabble are swatted aside like flys.

Nothing will detract from the unionista failure, sleaze, and incompitence demonstrated by these puppets.

Headline in the Guardian, worth repeating ....

"SCOTTISH MEDIA LOSES TOUCH WITH REALITY". Seems you still don't get it, even with your english counterparts openly laughing at you.
46

Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 11:53:25
"Scottish media divided from reality", Guardian 26th May

Mathematics isn't the strong point of either the Scotsman or the BBC, it seems. The Edinburgh-based paper reported Alex Salmond was asked by a member of the public to divide 24 by zero during a BBC webcast. "Infinity," Scotland's first minister replied. A BBC interviewer said that this was wrong and the right answer was zero, leading to the Scotsman running a piece headlined "Salmond stumped by a mother's maths question". (The correct answer is "undefined".) Cue a complaint to the Press Complaints Commission and a correction by the paper. The Scottish media's maths, it seems, is infinitely worse than the first minister's.
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Mèths,

31/05/2009 11:57:02
Eh? and once more - Eh?

Article states. "Scotland on Sunday understands that there is a growing feeling within Labour that the party should revisit the possibility of forcing a motion of no confidence in the justice secretary at Holyrood."

But they were never going to do this in the first place. They didn't even have the cojones to do it themselves as the following from the Times states:-

"Labour had previously indicated that they would support a vote of no confidence in the Justice Minister if it was brought forward by the Tories, but a spokesman for the party said that it had no plans itself to move such a motion."

Wimps.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 12:02:36
Just starting to watch The Politics Show. Main Scottish headline today from Pravda's chief TV reporter, Glenn Campbell, is the MacAsaskill "story". Who'd have thunk it eh ?

And they have Mr 7% in the studio to talk about it...

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Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 12:18:36
They're also going to focus on David Mundells 3,000 quids worth of photography.

Has BBC Pravda heard of an MP called Jim Devine though ? Seems not ... funny that innit ?

So we have a Pravda attack coming up on the SNP and the Tories. Scottish Labour though ? ... don't be silly !!!
50

mr broon,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 12:19:45
It appears that Mr Magoo and Richard Baker can try as much as they like to force MacAskill out because Salmond will only threaten to hold a vote of no confidence in his minority government.

There is no way that Head Office will ever allow "In Branch"(Scotland) Tories and Labour politicians to precipitate early elections for the Scottish Parliament when it is the last thing London needs at this time?

As usual, the "In Branch" Tories and Labour politicians will simply do as their London masters tell them!
51

frank mcbride,

lusitania 31/05/2009 12:28:45
Why is there no campaign, by JP to force Brown's resignation?

Gordon Brown was told by the FSA, IN 2004, of the perilous state of NR and HBOS.

He, and his Cabinet, has since repeatedly said that "this current financial crisis could not be foreseen."

Any reasonable person would, I believe, accept that a 3-4 years warning was sufficient to, at the very least, anticipate this financial meltdown.

Why are NuLabour's lies and incompetence not being challenged by JP publications?
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A. Mcleod,

Highland 31/05/2009 12:34:02
If a prisoner was granted weekend liberty in preperation for his final release and murdered Kevin Mcleod, and then his crime subsequently covered up by the authorities, MacAskill and all the other corrupt to the core cronies are out on their @rse's.
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Desmo,

Lumphinnans 31/05/2009 12:36:23
The nakedly partisan, or should that be prejudiced, editorial line taken by this organisation makes it harder and harder for anyone with more than a right and a left brain cell to stay calm while reading it`s output.

But it must be working.

Anyone else had a look at the figures in the online poll on this story ?

If it`s accurate then too many Scots still swallow all that`s fed to them by this, and other "news providers", and we should all worry.

If it`s not accurate, then this organisation, or another with a strong interest,are at it, and again, we should all worry.
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 12:47:10
Christ, MacAskill souned like a dead man walking right enough...

NOT !
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Jimmy Le Pie,

31/05/2009 13:24:20
I thought MacAskill did very well being cross examined by the 2 New Labour Sleaze buffoons!!

Gray must be the most inept politician alive at the moment!!!
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alanh,

ek 31/05/2009 13:35:43
Does this nu liebore sleaze and spin, north brittian dept, party propaganda sheet EVER contain the factual info rather than party spin?
Was the prisoner in jail for murder or traffic offences?
did he "abscond" or fail to return from home leave?
Has any past justice minister been expected to announce to parliament when a prisoner doesn't return from home leave or absconds even tho in all the previous administrations it happened 5, yes that's 5, times more often?

As for the freedom of information request from the nu liebore sleaze and spin, north brittian dept, member, I hope he or his party pay the cost of this rather than charging US for party political posturing and that this paper carries the answer in the same way it is the accusation.
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alanh,

ek 31/05/2009 14:06:07
#59 A McLeod

when did this murder happen?

The FOI request you quote is from October 2007 for the decision date.
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A. Mcleod,

31/05/2009 14:17:52
=66 alanh ---
8TH February 1997.
See all details on Shirley Mckie Website
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Epistemes,

31/05/2009 14:58:27
#61 Thats how I thought as well.

Gray seems incapable of formulating a question that doesn't show his own party's incompetance.

His insistance in critising the present record on abscondees only draws attention to the very poor record of the previous administration.
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TWC,

exLabour 31/05/2009 16:24:47
61 cu ceallach

Yes I saw Elmer Fudd getting anothr doing and MacAskill is not really a very good debater but he easilt whipped Elmer.

Elmer was jumping about all over the place in spite of wee Glen helping him

Floats like bee stings like a butterfly .

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Iainbroch,

31/05/2009 17:31:09
Yip and inept Macaskill gubbed Fuddy on the BEEB today and that was with Campbell holding Fuddys hand as well. Fuddy is looking more and more stupid with each passing day!

I am surprised as well that Marr did not intervene to stop Broonie embarrassing himself even more! Really Gordon - have you in your Presbyterian conscionse forgotton the Ten Commandments - you know the ones like Thou Shalt not steal, Thou shalt not Lie etc!
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 31/05/2009 17:34:05
Had to love it. Mr 7% and Glenn Pravda doing tag team wrestling against Kenny MacAskill. And MacAskill still won on points.

I'm afraid that the Scottish media will have to try harder than this to smear the Scottish government. "Alec Salmond, a donkey and a llama in love triangle" is surely next.
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Iainbroch,

31/05/2009 19:33:21
After Elmer Fudds abject performance on the Politics show today Cathy J has been impersonating Judith Durham and overheard singing to Iain soothingly?

Say goodbye, my one true lover
And we’ll steal a lover’s song
How it breaks my heart to leave you
Now the carnival has gone
Oh my love the dawn is breaking
And my tears are falling rain
For the carnival is over
We may never meet again
Like the drum my heart is beating
And your kiss is sweet as wine
But the joys of love are fleeting
For Pierrot and Columbine
Now the cloak of night is falling
This will be our last goodbye
Though the carnival is over
I will love you till the day I dies

Is that the sound of a dagger being slipped into his back that I hear? There is a serial killer on the loose in Labour group in Holyrood! Just ask Bendy and Henry!
64

smokey joe 1,

31/05/2009 20:29:24
Iain Gray, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Lump of wood.
65

BIG EYE,

Paisley 31/05/2009 22:14:37
I did not think Labour could sink any lower or become more pathetic.

Having watched Iain Gray being destroyed by Mr McAskill today I must admit I was wrong.
66

IainGlasgow,

31/05/2009 23:16:25
Alex Salmond should turn this around on Labour by making any vote of confidence in Kenny MacAskill into a vote of confidence in the Scottish government.

Then we'll see just how keen Labour are to go ahead with it given the last thing they'll want right now is a Scottish Election that could easily give the SNP another dozen seats, a couple of Labour seats going to the tories and possibly Tommy Sheridan and another 2-3 greens in on the list vote as well .
67

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 01/06/2009 04:21:44
Your paper must be the most unionist party around in SCOTLAND. Wow, the Do Do bird in life. Scotland is heading into INDEPENDENCE. So why do you not speak to the real people who will decide. HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
68

Eve,

Scotland 01/06/2009 13:10:49
#77 BIG EYE: Where did you see that?
69

Rony,

Fife 01/06/2009 16:50:25
Johnson Press - "Puppets on a string"
70

Iainbroch,

01/06/2009 20:20:12
Do not forsake me oh my darling! High Noon for Lieboar!

 

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