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Published Date: 18 June 2009
The UK Government has "abandoned" islanders who this week suffered a major jobs blow, the First Minister said today.
Alex Salmond announced the creation of a task force to deal with the impact of the redundancies on the Western Isles.

About 125 jobs are set to be lost at a missile test firing range operated by private defence technology company QinetiQ.

Mr Salmond told MSPs there was a "substantial lack of consultation" from the Ministry of Defence over the announcement yesterday.

He said: "I will be ensuring that representations are made to the Westminster Government to enable them to fully understand the full impact on fragile communities of announcing major job losses."

The Government has worked "extremely hard" to support job creation on the islands and 40 jobs had been created recently by BiFab at the mothballed Arnish fabrication yard on Lewis.

Mr Salmond said: "Meanwhile the UK Government appears to be abandoning the islands and their community.

"I can announce today that the Jim Mather, the Enterprise Minister, has already agreed to set up a task force."

It will with the local council and enterprise bodies, he said.
"The Scottish Government and these partners, in a united front, will do everything possible to protect the economy and the fragile communities of the Western Isles."

Western Isles MSP Alasdair Allan, SNP, said the move will have a "devastating impact" on the local community.

Dr Allan told MSPs it was a "body blow" to an "already fragile island economy" and asked what representations the Scottish Government would be making to Westminster on the issue.

He added: "What action will be taken in Scotland to address the needs of people most directly affected by it?"

Mr Salmond hit out at Labour MSPs who heckled Dr Allan as he raised the issue in Parliament.

"One thing I've never done in politics is criticise when a constituency member talks about jobs in their constituency," he said.

"They should be heard with some respect."

The cuts were part of a £50 million package of savings announced yesterday.

The Western Isles will be hardest hit, with the Hebrides range control centre on South Uist being shut by 2014.

Staff will no longer work on St Kilda – instead range radar there will be operated remotely, with staff visiting for maintenance only.

West Camp in Balivanich, Benbecula, will remain open but one accommodation block will close and its domestic staff will be reduced.

The full article contains 411 words and appears in scotsman.com newspaper.
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1

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18/06/2009 14:26:59
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2

Stan Butler,

18/06/2009 14:33:57


If Fat N'Eck Salmond got his way there would be no MOD jobs on Benbecula, or anywhere in Scotland.

He should stick to scoffing cakes from the cake stand he bought at taxpayers' expense.
3

Ken S.,

Reading 18/06/2009 14:35:28
Would such a facility - or indeed any job-creating large scale defence project- continue to exist in an SNP independent Scotland?

After all, facilities such as this only serve to bolster "England's illegal wars".
;-)

Can't have it all ways, dear SNP.

4

Alan B,

18/06/2009 14:40:52
#Ken

The issue is the way the uk government under brown has dealt with the issue.

5

Alan B,

18/06/2009 14:42:56
#Stan Butler

Unfortunately brown has got his way and he has virtually bankrupted the UK with massive debts.
6

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 14:43:15
Salmond is more laughable by the day.

What about all the thousands that will lose their jobs if he has his way with Trident?

Not important as 120 jobs in the islands obviously.
7

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 14:43:31
1-3

Clowns!

8

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 14:45:22
6 Clown!

Sorry Rufus missed you first time....no offence!
9

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 14:46:00
5 Alan B,18/06/2009 14:42:56
#Stan Butler

Unfortunately brown has got his way and he has virtually bankrupted the UK with massive debts.
=====================================================

Yes indeed.

The world recession is all Brown's fault.

Brown is also to blame for all the US Banking Collapes, Iceland going bust, Spanish unemployment of 20% and the Latvian Bank Crisis.

That must mean that Nicola Sturgeon is to blame for the Swine Flu outbreak.
10

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 14:46:54
Thanks Nevsky, I felt neglected as a result.

All ok now though.
11

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 14:51:05
What about Salmond wasting £14K of taxpayers money in a futile attempt to impeach Tony Blair using Cherie Blair's law firm?

Nothing but a pathetic political stunt, but unfortunately not a cheap political stunt.

Salmond has no shame.
12

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 14:51:07
Seems to be a cause of mild celebration among the unionists that jobs are going?

Twisted individuals!
13

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 14:54:28
If Scotland votes after independence to remove trident etc etc etc then that is a matter for the Scottish people and i dare say will be planned for by all those involved!

This is NOT the situation in the Western Isles...this is a lot of jobs going, lives being affected and probably more de-population.

Get a grip some of you....your rabid mania against the SNP is making you look like complete idiots!

14

John S,

18/06/2009 14:54:55
About 125 jobs are set to be lost at a missile test firing range.

UK unemployment rose to 2.261 million in the three months to April, the highest since November 1996, the ONS said.17 June 2009

CBI now expecting unemployment to peak at 3.03 million - a rate of 9.6% - in the second quarter of 2010. 15 June 2009
15

Stan Butler,

18/06/2009 14:54:56
12 Nevsky


How many MOD jobs would go in Scotland if Scotland leaves the Union?
16

John S,

18/06/2009 14:56:53
According to the Daily Mail More than 1.3 million of the 2.2 million jobs created between 1998 and 2006 were in public sector areas, including public administration, health, education and social work.June 15th, 2009

17

Barney Thomson,

Reading 18/06/2009 14:57:01
#4 At least someone has read the article.

I can remember when Labour politicians were concerned about the impact on communities of job losses enforced on them by powerful, uncaring institutions. Thatcherism swept this caring attitude away but under New Labour we were assured that it could only get better. Yeah, sure!
18

Stan Butler,

18/06/2009 14:57:54

Perhaps they could be retrained to manufacture cake stands for Fat N'Eck Salmond.

19

Joe Plaice,

the Nutmeg of Consolation 18/06/2009 15:04:36
#6 Wufus wrote: "What about all the thousands that will lose their jobs if he has his way with Trident?"
I think that figure was found to be vastly inflated and only a feww hundred jobs would be affected, jobs that could be recreated by the commissioning of Scotland's own Self Defence Forces and without the need for radation spewing weapons of mass destruction being dumped on an unwilling populace.

GIT!
20

Joe Plaice,

What about all the thousands that will lose their 18/06/2009 15:05:24
#18, Stan, just shut up you are embarrassing yourself.
21

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 18/06/2009 15:05:33
I'll bet the Unionists were punching the air when they heard the news of the job losses.
22

John S,

18/06/2009 15:06:12
Labour 2005 manifesto ... and 300,000 apprenticeships established a year, now that would be 1.2 million in 4 years ?
23

All Politicians are the same,

Scotland 18/06/2009 15:07:41
Wall how two faced can he be. Thousands of jobs would go if he can get rid of nuclear submarines on the Clyde. An Independent Scotland would also lose the contract to build the carriers and face the closure of 2 out of 3 RAF bases Kinloss/Lossy/Leuchars with thousands more job losses. Rosyth would lose future refit packages but thta is all acceptable. 150 jobs on an antiquated missile test firing range though, no way. SNP clueless on defence.
24

Lianachan,

Highlands 18/06/2009 15:09:04
Abandoning islanders has, I'm afraid, been very much the normal behaviour of the government(s) and royalty since the demise of the Lord of the Isles centuries hence. It's all been downhill for the islands, and most of the highlands, since then!
25

brownlie,

18/06/2009 15:23:10
15 Stan Butler

How many MOD jobs will go when Labour privatise military training and it gets taken over by an IT firm and a catering firm at a PFI cost of £12 billion and rising?

Do you think referring to Salmond in these terms enhances your postings?
26

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 15:23:34
People are losing jobs all over the country.

Why should islanders be immune?

There is a big bad world out there.

The only people that are safe seem to be MPs and MSPs.
27

John S,

18/06/2009 15:28:50
Over 40,000 Scottish defence-related jobs have been shed since 1990 without significant government intervention to ensure the provision of alternative employment.
Report Commissioned by the Scottish CND and the Scottish TUC:June 2006
28

John S,

18/06/2009 15:30:31
#6 What about all the thousands that will lose their jobs if he has his way with Trident ?
How many thousands do you think will loose their jobs ?
29

brownlie,

18/06/2009 15:37:09
26 Jerry Springer

Whilst it is relatively easy for most of those who lose their jobs to commute to employment areas that option is not open to most islanders.
30

John S,

18/06/2009 15:38:06
#23 Thousands of jobs would go if he can get rid of nuclear submarines on the Clyde.
How many thousands do you think will loose their jobs ?
31

brownlie,

18/06/2009 15:49:13
23 All pols etc

Do you know for a fact that contracts for carriers would be lost or that Rosyth would lose the refit contracts even if they offer the most competitive terms?
32

All Politicians are the same,

Scotland 18/06/2009 15:50:27
#30

Well moving out of Scotland will be 7 x SSBN crews, one boat has a gold crew thats 1060 personnel. The whole of MCM1 Ships and staff, another 400. Sceptre would not be left on her own and no point in basing astute boats in Faslane. Ship lift will shut and construction of new jetty will stop. Support services on site will be downgraded. Coulport will have to be shut down as it is an armmaments depot. Relocating another 300 staff. FPGRM would relocate taking another 350 personnel with them. FOST North would move add in another 300. So without being too specific and not counting civilians I make it 2,500 military jobs moving down South.
33

All Politicians are the same,

Scotland 18/06/2009 15:53:13
#31

Tell me which Government sends their warships to be refitted in a foreign country? As for building carriers the security implications alone are massive. babcock does have an advantage of owning Devonport dockyard so alot of staff would have to relocate to Plymouth.
34

W Smith,

Middle East 18/06/2009 15:55:29
Ah Yes.

Mr Salmond and his anti-British marxists friends at Stop The War Coalition and CND are extremely upset at the MoD closing a missile test firing range.

His protest friends George Galloway, Lyndsey German and Kate Hudson must be near suicidal over this tragic news.

You think we were all born yesterday Mr Salmond.

BTW
This is the same SNP who wouldn't lift a finger to help the Gurkhas and wanted to kick out the British Army from Edinburgh Castle over some bogus arguement over a flag.

For the same salary as the Australian Prime Minister all we get is more posing, posturing and grandstanding from our Alex.

TIME FOR YOU TO GET A REAL JOB MR SALMOND.
35

Ken S.,

Reading 18/06/2009 15:56:36
#32

Plus jobs in all the suppliers, shops, schools, etc that get their business from the bases and from the resident workforces' families
36

brownlie,

18/06/2009 16:00:11
33 All pols etc

The UK Government.
37

W Smith,

Middle East 18/06/2009 16:00:53
#11 Jerry Springer

Yep that's our Alex.

He wants to impeach Blair but doesn't take action against Hanif or Saeed.

He has done nothing about knife crime in Glasgow, etc.

His version of law and order is a one way street.
38

All Politicians are the same,

Scotland 18/06/2009 16:00:59
#36

Where?
39

Stan Butler,

18/06/2009 16:02:25


Forget swords into ploughshares let's have missiles into cake stands.


40

brownlie,

18/06/2009 16:03:09
34 Smith

Read the article properly. Salmond was objecting, not to the closure, but to a lack of consultation and a lack of initiatives to provide alternative employment.
41

Ken S.,

Reading 18/06/2009 16:03:46
#13 Nevsky
"..mania against the SNP.."

Actually I'm very favourably disposed towards SNP, indeed rather envious that you have a politician with a clear sense of purpose.

.. It just seems ironic for SNP to have focussed on this particular topic when its own overall policy would result in far more losses in this job sector.
42

brownlie,

18/06/2009 16:05:10
37 smith

It did not take long for your racism to rear it's ugly head.
43

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 16:17:49
29 brownlie,18/06/2009 15:37:09
26 Jerry Springer

Whilst it is relatively easy for most of those who lose their jobs to commute to employment areas that option is not open to most islanders.
==============================================

And?
44

oder,

Scotland 18/06/2009 16:20:18
with all the defence cuts coming up by Broon there will be thousands of jobs lost in the defence sector long before the SNP get the oppertunity to make a decision on defence matters! there is more than good chance 1 carrier will be ditched and the other delayed so it wont matter! the Labour government will make sure Scotland loses out!
45

brownlie,

18/06/2009 16:33:16
43 Jerry Springer,

And...? Work it out for yourself, Rufus, I thought you were more intelligent than the average unionist poster. Then again ....
46

Ugly George,

18/06/2009 16:44:03
44 Aye We can

"Scotland is quite capable of being independent and, in being independent, is quite capable of generating its own military/defense industry."

That may well be true but you are not taking into account the factor of scale. There are now only four naval bases in the UK and two of them are in Scotland (Faslane and Rosyth). So Scotland, with 8.5% of the UK population has 50% of the naval bases.

This begs the question of what would be the proportionate cost of keeping these two bases. The Royal Navy now has only about 40 warships. A proportionate share for Scotland would be less than 4 ships - hardly enough to sustain two naval bases. If an independent Scotland were to maintain both of the bases with a reasonable number of ships the proportionate cost would be huge.
47

Troy Tempest,

under the subs 18/06/2009 16:45:51
#23

Defence is rather a misnoma. Could you give me an example of a defensive nuclear weapon for example?Don't you mean 'offence'?
48

Ugly George,

18/06/2009 17:03:56
44 Aye We Can
PS
I've just done some research on QintiQi - the company that is closing the facility. It has two missile testing sites - one in the Western Isles and one in Wales. In an atempt to cut costs they are going to close one of them and it is the one in the Western Isles.

However it is interesting that QinetiQi's missile testing is undertaken as a contract with NATO. Alex Salmond and the SNP have stated that they do not wish Scotland to be a member of NATO. In this case why should the company maintain its presence in the Western Isles as opposed to Wales when the First Minister of Scotland has indicated clearly that he does not wish this kind of activity in Scotland.

Is Alex Salmond not being rather hypocritical in complaining about the job losses when he has made it clear that he does not want the activity associated with the jobs to be undertaken in Scotland.
49

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 18/06/2009 17:15:25
51 Aye We Can
Oh dear. Once again we have this tendency of people on these threads to imagine what is said rther than to read what is actually there. I made no reference or implication to a dependency on England - that was merely your imagined inference. All I said was the proportionate cost factor has to be taken into account if you are assessing Scotland's ability to sustain miltary facilities.

From this obviously pertinent point you somehow (inexplicably) extrapolate to my supposed "dependency on England" There is no logical nor rational sequitur in your argument. You are merely inventing a point that has not been made.

Also you refer to an EU defence force but the vast majority of EU countries are members of NATO and rely upon NATO for weapon organisation, logistic support etc. Are you in favour of Scotland being a member of NATO?
50

Arfur,

18/06/2009 17:45:22
I see the unionists are as usual spouting their tosh in their sad pathetic attempt to keep as many folk who read this that may be have been Labour supporters on their side.

Its the usual garbage as well. Case in point - number of jobs to go if trident goes. The unionists - thousands, millions, half the country will be out of work. The real answer - low hundreds (something like 109)..............................and not only this - as they are engineers they can get jobs in Scotlands ever increasing renewable energy workforce.
51

Ken S.,

Reading 18/06/2009 17:51:47
#44 Aye We Can,
I have no doubts as to an independent Scotland's capabilities in the overall sense.

However, if I am correct in believing that SNP policy is still not to be a member of NATO, one wonders what scale of bases (and hence dependent employment) would be required by a Scottish Defence Force.

52

Jerry Springer,

18/06/2009 19:07:33
Brownlie, islanders have no more right to a job than people from the mainland. If it is harder to get a job there then, tough. No one forces them to live there.
53

Eire-Girl,

Dublin 18/06/2009 19:14:49
What a badly written article. The 'Western Isles' are not an island, but a means to describe a group of islands collectively - the information regarding which particular communities are to be affected, is tacked on at the end. Clearly, this is less of a story about the affect on the people in the community, and more of an attempt to stir up anti-government sentiment. Not that most of us need much stirring up on that front!!
54

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 19:17:35
60 Rufus*

That is the most idiotic and ill-educated and offensive statement you have made in a long time.

What understanding have you got of the history, culture, forced emigration, suppression of the culture and language, lack of support by the British state and attempted extermination of a culture?

I don't mind your usual rubbish Rufus but i take deep offence at the level of your ignorance on this matter and i mean that!
55

jane shore,

london & NHS Worker 18/06/2009 19:40:02

good grief 62 & 63 Forced immigration, suppression of culture, cruelty & neglect of British government. Get a grip & move on from the 19th century.

Yes people do have to move & become economic emmigrants. It happens all over the world. Nevsky in Moscow.

Of course if the Scottish government wishes to keep people in their places of birth, well fair enough. Put them on benefits, or subsidize some form of employment for them, but it will cost you. I wonder what Mr Salmond has in mind.

Get real.


56

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 19:50:06
64 Jane*

You as well appear to be a undeucated and ignorant half-wit.

This has nothing to do with people leaving for work or to go to Uni ot the fact that there will always be emigration from such areas. That is a given.

It is about something completely different (the level of sheer ignorance displayed by Rufus) so i suggest until you know what you are talking about historically you shut it!

57

jane shore,

london 18/06/2009 19:57:13

I shall not shut it Nevsky

I think I know what you are talking about historically, harking back to the highland clearances perhaps? 200 years ago?

Read up on the English enclosure acts, forcing people out of their English rural homes & into the cities or abroad. Same things were happening throughout Europe.

If the work isnt there you have to go & find it, no one is owed a living just where they wish to be. Why are you in Moscow?


58

Observer,,

Glasgow 18/06/2009 20:28:00
Rufus was that a joke remark ? Or are you like Mrs Thatcher and believe there is no such thing as society ? Losing jobs from a community such as the Islands has a disproportionate effect on the local economy than if jobs were to be lost in the central belt or in the South East of England.

If this is an MOD decision then what calculations did they make about the impact on the people they are leaving behind ?

They have a social responsibility here.

Just saying people can leave and find other jobs is simply not good enough.
59

Observer,,

Glasgow 18/06/2009 20:30:32
66 You expect us to go back to the time of the enclosures Jane ? You have skipped rather a lot of history there haven't you - like for example socialism, the trade union movement, the emancipation of women to name but a few.
60

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 18/06/2009 20:42:40
St Kilda's aquipment will be run remotely, with visits for maintenance. A bit like windfarms and lighthouses then Alex?
61

jane shore,

london 18/06/2009 20:44:19

Observer...I was just answering Nevskys rude post. The Highland clearances of 200+ years ago. Had to point out that English rural peasants suffered too, perhaps not as brutally, but nevertheless it happened.

But comparing this withdrawal of employment with the Highland Clearances is overstating the case & pathetically emotional.


62

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 18/06/2009 20:51:47
#71 Jane! Didn't you know! The clearances may still carry on! There are people being warned that they may be forced to leave their land in order to make golf courses in Grampian!
63

yoric,

18/06/2009 20:53:52
I thought Salmond and the SNP were against missiles and other military instalations, so whats the gripe?
64

Observer,,

Glasgow 18/06/2009 20:54:15
71 I agree this is no Highland Clearance.

But on the subject of the clearances a lot of people (including me at one time) thought there were parallels between the general consequences of the enclosures act and what happened in the Highlands.

In point of fact what happened in the Highlands was in a totally different league and was undoubtedly an atempt at genocide, if not of all the people (they let most of them go) then definitely of the culture. So whilst the English peasants suffered too it is really not the same.

Which is why I don't bandy about the clearances as a tool in argument.
65

JR Ewing,

Aberdeen 18/06/2009 20:55:16
71
Do not post opinion on a subject of which you are in total ignorance.

The ethnic cleansing on a par with that most recently seen in the Balkans undertaken by the British government post 1746 and the subsequent Clearances also carried out with the tacit approval of the same British government has left a lasting legacy visible in the Highlands to this day.
66

Observer,,

Glasgow 18/06/2009 20:56:25
73 No the SNP are against the renewal of Trident. Other than that they are into a nifty defence capability in every other way. Not paying for Trident would help achieve that objective. Oh and help give soldiers protective equipment so they don't have to buy it themselves and useful stuff like that.
67

Nevsky;,

Moscow 18/06/2009 21:03:32
71 Jane*

No i am not 'harking back to the highland clearances' you spoon! Where did i even mention that?

You have completely missed the point and the reason is that you have no idea what you are talking about!

'Pathetically emotional'?? You are pathetically ill-educated....you think Highland History ends with the clearances...it doesn't for your information.

Try looking up Western Isles war losses (the highest in Europe per head of population)....then look up what happened after they returned regarding the provision of land...then look up the boat 'Metagama'(state forced emigration)...then look up supression of gaelic...then look up Highland Emigration post WW1...then look up a boat called the 'Iolaire'(200 men dying in their home harbour due to negligence and covered up..bet you never heard of it)....then look up the Isle of Lewis Roll of Honour for WW2 (25% of those who served were wounded or died in the merchant navy and were not even given pensions as they were not considered service personnel) where the British State refused to give an blind old caileach a war pension after she lost her husband in WW1 and 3 sons in ww2...then look up how people were beaten in school for speaking Gaelic in school (this happened to my mother)...then look up what investment the British state has put into the Islands (virtually nil)....then look up the population today compared with 200 years ago.....


after you have done that come back and talk your garbage!



68

Observer,,

Glasgow 18/06/2009 21:16:08
78 Is Alex Salmond in charge of the MOD ? I think someone should tell him.
69

jane shore,

london 18/06/2009 21:17:43

Nevsky Do you want me to answer you or not, because previously you told me to shut it?

That is a long list of grievances for the Western Isles but I think any area of the UK could trawl up a list of local griefs. Dont be so precious.

You didnt answer my first question. Your solution? Subsidize industry in the Western Isles, or let the people live on benefits? Does the Scottish devolved parliament pay, or should the UK be paying?
70

Tris,

18/06/2009 21:39:06
Typical small minded Labour. It's the Western Isles, we aren't going to win there, so we don't give a fig for their jobs and we'll jeer while their MSP raises his concerns.

71

brownlie,

18/06/2009 21:42:10
60 Rufus,

If you lose your job tomorrow you could probably commute to another call centre. These islanders do not have that option open to them - they are not in a position to commute to Glasgow or Edinburgh. It is true that no-one forces them to live there but their homes and a whole way of life is there. No doubt some of them will, from economic necessity, have to leave their homes and move to an environment which will be alien to them.

When the MOD set up the bases it caused tremendous disruption with an adverse effect on the land and on the inhabitants. Fishing grounds were affected and exclusion zones and movement restrictions were set up. There is an moral obligation on the government, therefore, to handle the situation they created in a fragile economy in a sensitive manner.

jane shore has suggested, sarcastically it appears, that industry be subsidised there and I suspect that she is not far away from Salmond's point of view in that respect.

After all, if tax-payers' money is used to subsidise banks and bankers' bonuses and pension then there is a compelling case for, initially, subsidising a way of life which, if copied, would improve the quality of life enormously for those who live on mainland Britain.
72

Observer,,

Glasgow 18/06/2009 21:47:24
Brownlie how awkward of you to point out that the banking system has been subsidised to the tune of £1.3 trillion.

Are some lifestyles more equal than other lifestyles ?
73

brownlie,

18/06/2009 22:03:37
83 Observer

I feel that there is an obligation on any Government or Government body to positively react to address diminishing qualities of life-styles which have been adversely affected by Governmental action or inaction whether in the Western Isles, Sighthill in Glasgow or elsewhere.
74

Conan the Librarian™,

18/06/2009 22:29:44
84
Wll that include the diminishing quality of life of many Labour MPs brownlie? ;¬)
75

brownlie,

18/06/2009 22:43:58
85 Conan the Librarian

We can only hope, Conan. You'll be pleased to hear that I'm unable, for some reason, to comment on your consistently excellent blog.
76

Conan the Librarian™,

18/06/2009 22:50:08
86
brownlie
Are you getting an error message?
WW said the same thing, but left no details.
77

nostress,

grangemouth 18/06/2009 22:51:45
I see Jim Devine current Labour MP for Livingston is now on public record saying that a former employee of his is responsible for the fraud committed in Mr Devine's name.

This extraordinary claim must surely be investigated immediately by the police and if Mr Devine is found to have made false allegations, he must be forced to stand down as an MP with immediate effect.

Why is he only now making this incredible allegation? Has it all been too much for him?
78

captainscarlet,

18/06/2009 22:54:26
I am writing to request an appointment with Mr Alex Salmond to discuss with him in detail my circumstances relating to matters i first raised with his secretary and Mr Salmond during 1981.

the matter is of the ongoing abuses and injustices committed against me from aged four.

yours truly

IF MR SALMOND IS CONCERNED ABOUT ISLANDERS BEING ABANDONED can he remeber the kid he ignored when asked for help.

the email above was sent to him months ago and his secretary has asked me only now why i sent it and others including the recorded and signed for special delivery letter which he ignored also.

royalmail.com track and trace number ZW153774402GB
79

captainscarlet,

18/06/2009 22:55:55
maybe if he sees my entries in the scotsman he will reply to my request
80

brownlie,

18/06/2009 23:01:26
87 Conan,

Yes, as soon as I hit the comment button the error message comes up.

89 captainscarlet

If that really is the case there are lots of appropriate organisations who can help you.
81

Jo Flo,

ear on qt 18/06/2009 23:06:33
what did she say?
82

brownlie,

18/06/2009 23:22:36
89 captainscarlet

Are you sure of your dates? Having looked at your posting again, I see you mention 1981. I'm pretty sure that, at that time, Salmond was working for the Royal Bank of Scotland.
83

Conan the Librarian™,

18/06/2009 23:33:32
93
brownlie...this is the voice of the mysterons...
84

nostress,

grangemouth 18/06/2009 23:40:14
From the BBC Scotland website tonight:

Labour MP Jim Devine is facing new revelations about his expenses.

BBC Scotland has discovered that the Livingston MP claimed for new wood flooring for his London flat twice in three months.

Mr Devine, who was deselected by his party this week over other expenses, has blamed a former employee who he has accused of fraud.

The MP said he has discovered many other claims which he said had been made falsely in his name.

He added that he had discussed the issue with the fees office on Wednesday.

BBC Scotland learned he submitted a claim in March 2006 for £690.

In June that year submitted a further claim - purporting to be from the same company - for £1,800 for laminate flooring for the same property which Mr Devine had just bought from another Labour MP
85

brownlie,

18/06/2009 23:44:21
94 Conan

Sorry, Conan, you've lost me. I never watch Songs of Praise, heh heh!
86

captainscarlet,

18/06/2009 23:47:37
#93 brownie no whatever he was doing other than politics he was definately active in scotlands public affairs, i remeber seeing him on the TV when i was at coblehaugh during the 1970's.


then i saw him on the way from his office to the bogs in peterhead he had a secretary for his politics then as he does now. my family is from peterhead.

i also make note that coble haugh is in inverurie at salmonds gordon office.
87

captainscarlet,

18/06/2009 23:49:56
margaret thatcher visited inverurie when i lived there to open a milk bar people said prior to her election as prime minister.
88

captainscarlet,

18/06/2009 23:51:34
i got sectioned in the 1990's because i was exposing the paedophiles working for local authorities and independant child and adult care services like the NHS Social Work now they have lied to enforce another section because i exposed them on youtube.com

bernadette mooney told me herself that she was a paedophile. fact

freedom of expression.
89

brownlie,

18/06/2009 23:56:37
99 captainscarlet

I think you need the kind of help that is not available on this forum. I would suggest you look for that help. In the meantime, take care.
90

captainscarlet,

19/06/2009 00:00:58
#87 conan, there are but most of them are obscured from site.

i only tonight discovered contact details for INCAS.

the government knew about it but i only heard of it.

the local authorities have more than me to answer for but why are they the organisations hard to find.

i spoke to scot todd about organisations today and he spoke of these organisations as helpful.

i said good activism and legal recourse and closure he said "no" twice and then "not really" why do you think that is?

that is more skeletons out of the closet.

i phoned 0131 244 3546 and mentioned the child abuse i suffered whilst in care and i was put through to him, give him a call tommorrow and ask him.


freedom of information and freedom of expression of smugness
91

Conan the Librarian™,

19/06/2009 00:01:11
100 Congrats on the hunner, Spooks place?
92

captainscarlet,

19/06/2009 00:03:56
go to scabbies infestation on myyearbook and see the other kids i was in care with including those who abused me physically.
93

captainscarlet,

19/06/2009 00:05:16
#100 you do not get help you get an early grave it's called pinned i got when i was a child also.
94

Rob Royston,

Bishopbriggs 19/06/2009 00:05:44
There will be plenty of jobs after independence as Scotland builds her navy to reclaim her seas. After that we will control our own fishing, oil and gas, and get on with developing our new offshore renewable energy projects.
95

captainscarlet,

19/06/2009 00:29:13
the homeless get hotels because the sex offenders get the hostels.
96

captainscarlet,

19/06/2009 00:30:24
look up aberdeen off union street on or parallel with crown street
97

Jo Flo,

dinner tommorrow evening 19/06/2009 01:40:49
“He may have the ginger nuts”
esther rantin on prince charles this evening on QTime

 

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