Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement

 
 
Saturday, 19th July 2008

Premium Article !

Your account has been frozen. For your available options click the below button.

Options

Premium Article !

To read this article in full you must have registered and have a Premium Content Subscription with the The Scotsman site.

Subscribe

Registered Article !

To read this article in full you must be registered with the site.

Expert accuses ministers of 'budgeting in the dark'



Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image

Published Date: 29 April 2008
SNP ministers have been accused of losing control of the Scottish Government's budget by one of the country's foremost economists.
Professor Arthur Midwinter, who was until recently the leading adviser for the Scottish Parliament's finance committee and who now advises Scottish Labour, has savaged the budget.

He claimed that this year's budget has provided no link between s
pending and outcome and its efficiency savings are just "rhetoric".

The criticisms by Prof Midwinter, who has also advised the Northern Ireland and Welsh assemblies, come in a detailed submission to the finance committee as evidence towards its investigation into the budget process.

Prof Midwinter accused the Scottish Parliament of "budgeting in the dark" and signing off £11 billion of spending "without being told what it will purchase, at what price, and what impact it will have".

He said that currently the Scottish Government controls too much of the information and the best way forward was for committees in the Scottish Parliament to take control of the budget process and come up with their own priorities, savings and spending plans, rather than simple recommendations.

In his submission he attacked the deal between the Scottish Government and 32 councils which he said had broken the link between spending and results.

And he dismissed the concordat with councils by noting: "The finance secretary (John Swinney] believes this gives councils freedom to focus on outcomes. This is difficult to take seriously. Only around ten of the 45 indicators in the performance reporting framework are actually outcome measures, and half of these are health indicators."

He went on to say that this was also reflected in the so-called efficiency savings, which Mr Swinney recently claimed would be £600 million this financial year. About £400 million has to be found by the councils or other public bodies.

"There are few genuine efficiencies, and the lack of output baselines makes them impossible to scrutinise properly," Prof Midwinter said.

A Scottish Government source said: "Arthur Midwinter gets his wages paid by Wendy Alexander now, so it is rather absurd of him to continue posing as an independent commentator.

"The reality is that the arrangements for the agreement of the Budget Bill were exactly the same as during the eight years of the Labour/Liberal coalition."

But Iain Grey, Labour's shadow finance secretary, said: "This is a paper submitted by Professor Midwinter in his academic capacity.

Prof Midwinter has more experience of scrutinising this budget process than anyone else around. Predictable attempts by the SNP to spin his criticisms away would be foolish indeed."





The full article contains 432 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
Page 1 of 1

  • Last Updated: 28 April 2008 10:30 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish National Party
 
1

Angus Ogg,

28/04/2008 23:11:07

The Nutty Professor strikes again.

Surely Mr Midwinter would have better credibility if he made it quite clear and declared an interest, in as much as he is in the pay of a political party?

Better than that, why does he not just stand as a Labour Councillor or MSP and be done with it ?

Maybe not such a good idea. Electoral prospects must be guy depressing for anyone wearing the Red Rosette this Thursday. or at the forthcoming General Election.
2

druidh,

edinburgh 29/04/2008 00:19:57
The quotation marks in the title of the article are at the wrong end of the sentence.
3

Alfred E. Neuman,

29/04/2008 00:24:56
But he would, wouldn't he?

Also what the fork does "budgeting in the dark" mean? Sounds like the words of a Bullsh**er to me.
4

Scottish Politics,

29/04/2008 00:28:16
Don't make me laugh! Doesn't he work for Wendy Alexander?

It is unreal that the Scotsman, anti-SNP though the editorial line is, would even consider running this non-story as if it was by an impartial observer rather than someone who works for a Labour politician.

Too late Prof. Midwinter, you have nailed your colours to the mast and with them any credibility you might have previously had.
5

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 29/04/2008 00:31:42
The problem for this 'expert', and the scotsman is that nobody but the Labour party takes him serously any more, that's if anybody but them ever did.
6

Steve,

Bo'ness 29/04/2008 00:32:46
Arthur Midwinter-no credibility whatsoever
7

FrancesP,

29/04/2008 00:35:47
Simple rule of thumb to avoid clicking on this type of daft non-story - if the headline says "SNP/Scottish Government accused of..." it's a Baron Sir Lord Georgey Foulkes story. But if it's "Expert accuses SNP/Scottish Government of..." then it's an Arthur Midwinter story.

Go on, Scotsman journalists, prove me wrong. Find an SNP-hating financial "expert" for rent-a-quote purposes who isn't called Arthur Midwinter. More to the point, find a Labour MSP who isn't called George Foulkes. How difficult can that be? There's supposed to be another 45 of them!
8

Socrates2,

29/04/2008 00:46:00
bleak midwinter -- he is a hoot

aye wir a doomed arthur, doomed i tell ye

what was it they said in chewing the fat f....
9

Senga Jean,

29/04/2008 00:59:40
FOREMOST ECONOMISTS? I thought we had outed Midwinter at election time as a Labour hack?
10

Senga Jean,

29/04/2008 01:02:14
I liked Midwinter better when he was a beat bobby.
11

democracy,

Scottish Borders 29/04/2008 01:15:47
Professor WHO?......Ah...YES! Professor Labour.
What a useless non-story, Scotsman, (westminster,tabloid rag), give it a rest!!!
12

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 29/04/2008 01:36:46
Is wee Arthur looking for a post at the Scottish Office? Is he tired of Wendy already?

This tripe spouting lickspittle is an embarrassment to economists the length of Scotland. Every time he calls himself an economist, they roll their eyes as they know that he is an accountant, nothing more. He has no degree in economics just in accounting and public expenditure.

Time for the Scotsman to change the numbers on the speed dial, Labour is no longer in power. Stop crying, wee Davie, its true and your greetin won't change that.
13

The Answer,

Glasgow 29/04/2008 03:16:57
Gosh! only 14 posts from the gnats, I was expecting a few hundred by now.
14

Castaway,

29/04/2008 03:42:34
#14 Traquir - You beat me to it because I was going to post the same.
http://scotsandindependent.blogspot.com/2007/02/politics-endures-bleak-midwinter.html
15

Auckland Arab2,

29/04/2008 04:07:19
The Hootsmon must think we are all stupid. We STILL remember the series of Midwinter articles before last years election and they were hardly impartial.

He is a Labour Stooge.
16

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 04:44:33
Its either a quiet news day or the Hootsman is cutting back its costs yet again, by just creating a story rather than actually leaving their offices to persue one.

I suppose they could be described as an enviro friendly Newspaper. They dont spend money on transport and produce a lot of natural fertilizers from their editors.

Its Time and the Time is NOW. Independance is a fact, that nothing can stop now.
17

Alan Reid,

NZ 29/04/2008 05:23:54
15 The Answer,
If your the answer, it's must be a pretty bloody stupid question.
18

David MacVicar,

web 29/04/2008 05:32:08
2 druidh,

Too true! How many of us knew from the title that it could ONLY be Bleak Midwinter at work!

"who was until recently the leading adviser" ...
I feel your pain Mr Midwinter - NOT.
19

Samoyed,

Costa del Menie 29/04/2008 06:03:21
Just for the sake of helping to meet The Answer expectations, let me say that Maddox reserved the best for last:

But Iain Grey, Labour's shadow finance secretary, said: "This is a paper submitted by Professor Midwinter in his academic capacity.

Prof Midwinter has more experience of scrutinising this budget process than anyone else around. Predictable attempts by the SNP to spin his criticisms away would be foolish indeed."

If this is the best "academic" capacity this fellow has to offer why are you paying him?

I'm truly feeling foolish, foolish, foolish indeed. Is it enough spin for you Iain? No? OK: Foolish, foolish, foolish indeed.

Any better now?


20

James,

Dundee 29/04/2008 06:07:04
Has anybody seen AM2?
21

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 29/04/2008 07:11:24
Oh My God, not Midwinter again...
22

gus1940,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 07:54:28
Yet again - Quote Marks 1 - Balanced Journalism 0
23

Freedom for Scotland,

29/04/2008 07:59:28
Midwinter is to economics what Liebour is to truth!
Total starngers.
24

Unimpressed one,

29/04/2008 08:13:52
"Expert accuses ministers of 'budgeting in the dark'"

But as every schoolboy knows this can lead to blindness.
25

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 08:36:30
Prof Midwinter should be aware by now that there is little correlation between the amount of money spent and the outcome.
The previous government knew where money was being spent such as "We are spending more on education than ever before." but had no proof that it was doing the slightest bit of good. In fact literacy in Scotland is no better, maybe even worse than it was and only in a few years are we going to have it properly tested.
Unfortunately the prof, like his Labour colleagues does not seem to be able to think outside the box and adapt to the new polical situation.
26

,

29/04/2008 09:08:47
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
27

Calum10,

29/04/2008 09:33:27
Angus Ogg, "The Nutty Professor strikes again."

Couldn't put it better myself.
28

Union is Best,

29/04/2008 09:38:27
Excellent. Our fight back is underway! No one will remember that Midwinter said last year that the SNP could not freeze the council tax and would have a £2 billion shortfall this year! Well done Scotsman for not identifying Midwinter as a Labour party adviser!

Tomorrow we will have another neutral opinion piece from Ms Jackie Baillie.
29

,

29/04/2008 09:40:30
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
30

,

29/04/2008 09:43:18
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
31

,

29/04/2008 10:04:12
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
32

Union is Best,

29/04/2008 10:09:59
33. Well done, at last you have managed to post this forensic tour de force on the correct thread! Were you posting in the dark, or had the DT's overcome your typing hand before, when you posted this on the devolution commission and lifestyle threads?
33

Union is Best,

29/04/2008 10:26:17
33. Poor show Alfie - you have been deleted! I keep telling you, you must try to appear to be less of a rabid, offensive moron to give your posts a longevity greater than 3 minutes!
34

Alfred E. Neuman,

29/04/2008 10:29:35
36 Union

Wouldn't have been deleted if it was directed at the SNP.

Right, tally ho, better run awf and slaughter a few kittens, burn a few saltires before lunch and that kind of thing.

I can't believe they deleted that, that was tame, not a single expletive.
35

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 10:35:36
37

I think they are also deleting the inane the pointless and the moronic on principle.
Better get somebody else to post for you.
36

brownlie,

29/04/2008 10:57:14
38 Foulkes

I was just about to post my usual inane, pointless and moronic unionists posts but now I cannot do so. Is this democracy?
37

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 29/04/2008 11:08:08
Look Arthur be honest..............what am I saying?
38

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 29/04/2008 11:09:09
The Prof is best described by the old saying,

A wilderness crying out in a voice!
39

,

29/04/2008 11:45:57
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
40

Robert Mason,

Larkhall 29/04/2008 11:49:36
Alex, you should ask your good pal Madsen Pirie to respond to this.
41

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 15:14:01
39

No its denial you just did.
42

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/04/2008 18:00:13
Would Dave Maddox please realise that "reports with the Prof's name on it are not newsworthy any more?

Most people now think he speaks through his Midbottom. In this respect I shall raspberry back with mutual respect.

Or to put it another way, I rrrrrreciprocate.
43

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/04/2008 18:01:05
Would Dave Maddox please realise that "reports with the Prof's name on it are not newsworthy any more?

Most people now think he speaks through his Midbottom. In this respect I shall raspberry back with mutual respect.

Or to put it another way, I rrrrrreciprocate.
44

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/04/2008 18:01:52
Pardon me, I just repeated myself in public
45

Queen D,

Glasgow 29/04/2008 18:30:18
Thank you Jock Tamson , I am now covered in tea!

How in the name of the wee man can this newspaper keep trundling out discredited " experts"?

We all know the profs political affiliations , we also all know that he is NOT an economist , dabble though he may!

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
 
  

 
 


Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.