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Brown delays embryo bill 'in bid to sway Catholic votes in by-election'


GLASGOW EAST BY-ELECTION

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Published Date: 11 July 2008
GORDON Brown, the Prime Minister, yesterday made a play for Catholic voters in the Glasgow East by-election by postponing a decision on new embryo laws.
In a surprise announcement, the government said that a crucial vote on the embryology bill due to take place on Monday would now be delayed until the autumn.

This will help keep the issue – and the threat of changes to the abortion laws – off the agenda before voters go to the polls on 24 July. It also allows the legions of Labour MPs ordered to campaign in Glasgow to avoid having to make a speedy return to London.

Glasgow East has the fifth- highest number of Catholics in Scotland, with more than a third of its voters – some 23,185 adults – declaring themselves Catholics in the last census. The constituency is also home to Celtic Football Club.

Labour is thought to have acted as MPs come under increased pressure from the Catholic church to vote against the bill. Cardinal Keith O'Brien, the leader of the Catholic church in Scotland, has again urged them to reject what he has previously described as "Frankenstein" plans.

Mr Brown is well aware that defeat in what was Labour's third safest seat in Scotland would intensify calls for him to quit, following thumping Tory victories in Crewe and Nantwich and in Henley.

Party chiefs will be gambling that avoiding controversy on the embryology bill – which proposes legalising "hybrid" embryos made from a mixture of human and animal cells for scientific research – may safeguard sufficient votes in Glasgow East to give them a narrow victory.

At Westminster, the move was dubbed "Holy Watergate", as Labour was accused of blatant electioneering with its last-minute alterations to the parliamentary timetable.

David Mundell, the shadow Scottish secretary, told The Scotsman: "I don't think the Prime Minister can afford to alienate a single Labour voter. There is no doubt that this by-election can be very tight. Any objective analysis would lead you to believe this decision was politically motivated."

But the Liberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris said the government had been right to delay the bill to allow MPs more time to debate up to 60 new amendments. He said suggestions that the bill could influence the by-election were "exaggerated", as the views of neither the Labour candidate nor the SNP one were known.

The Prime Minister has also faced the headache of having to allow Ruth Kelly, the Transport Secretary, to absent herself from voting on the bill to avoid the staunchly Catholic minister having to vote against a key government proposal on conscience grounds.

Other Catholic Cabinet ministers, such as Des Browne, the Scottish and Defence Secretary, and Paul Murphy, the Welsh Secretary, had concerns about the bill but they were expected to back the government on a three-line-whip vote.

The bill's third reading – effectively the crunch vote – had been provisionally tabled for Monday. But when Harriet Harman, the Leader of the House of Commons, announced next week's business, it had been replaced in the timetable with moves to tighten the enforcement of the national minimum wage.

Theresa May, the shadow leader of the House, told MPs a "flagship government bill" had been left off the parliamentary agenda "at the last possible moment", and it would now not be debated until October. She asked: "Can (Ms Harman] give a commitment this decision had nothing whatsoever to do with the forthcoming Glasgow East by-election?"

But a Labour Party spokesman who is involved in the by-election campaign said: "We had no involvement in this decision. We had no knowledge of it."

Ms Harman said that because of the shortage of time left before the summer recess, and the number of MPs who wished to speak and propose amendments to the bill, it had been decided that "as much time as possible needs to be found for it" – necessitating a delay.

Mr Brown previously issued a personal plea for MPs to support the bill, and offered a series of free votes at earlier stages to minimise the risk of a ministerial rebellion. At one stage, 12 government members were thought likely to vote against it.

Cardinal O'Brien had described the bill as a "monstrous attack on human rights, human dignity and human life".

Labour stalwart brands Mason 'paranoid and xenophobic'

AN ELDER statesman of the Scottish Labour Party has upped the ante in the Glasgow East by-election by describing the SNP candidate John Mason as "paranoid and xenophobic".

The Scotsman understands that Lord Foulkes' portrayal of Mr Mason "as the true face of the SNP" has the blessing of party leaders in London.

Lord Foulkes' ire was raised by Mr Mason's publicly held views which include describing God Save the Queen as "an anti-Scottish song" and once demanding that a local school took down England flags put up during the last football World Cup.

Lord Foulkes, who spent his political life in Scotland as a councillor, MP and MSP but was born in England, said he was "disgusted" by Mr Mason's views.

"John Mason is clearly paranoid and xenophobic," he said. "This is the true face of the SNP, the nasty one behind the veneer of respectability we see at Holyrood."

But the Nationalists were keen to rebut the attack. An SNP spokeswoman said: "This is another boomerang attack from Lord Foulkes. Labour's original candidate George Ryan has had plenty to say opposing the flying of the Union Jack. Is Foulkes attacking him as well?"

The full article contains 933 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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11/07/2008 00:02:30
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Traquir , Alba,

11/07/2008 00:07:36
I guess Brown meant it when he said we do anything
and everything to preserve the Union.

We have already had overt manipulation of
the basic democratic process :

"Polling day has been deliberately placed during the summer holidays - Scottish schools have already broken up. It is also midway through the Glasgow fair holiday, when the city traditionally empties and the more politically volatile C2 demographic - backbone of many a byelection swing - are safely away on vacation."

"Today, humiliatingly, Labour's view is that the fewer people who vote, the better. Glasgow East - like Brown's premiership - is now entirely about survival."

see - tinyurl.com/66cr87

Now he is using important moral issues like
a cheap political football.

The Telegraph has already outlined in relation
to Catholic values
"Why Gordon Brown will lose Glasgow East"

"we have to assume that there is no place any more for Catholics in New Labour."

see - tinyurl.com/5jtpnd

Scotland does not deserve this low-life political
party and Glasgow East will do us all a favour
by booting them out.

Saor Alba
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Conan the Librarian™,

11/07/2008 00:07:36
I wonder if John Mason has ever been arrested for being drunk and disorderly, assault and resisting arrest?
4

The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 00:08:57
Nicola Sturgeon and that nobody she is standing next to embarass Scotland. But not the nobody, he only embarasses people who know who he is.
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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 00:09:08
i have received a reply to my freedom of info request from the foreign office and i have found out that information relating to the monitoring of pluralist democracy is available at the foreign office. The information they hold is related to this

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/AdoptedText/ta97/ERES1115.htm

This is the first stage in finding the proof (other than that in the public domain already) that the labour party had nothing to do with devolution and the setting up of the scottish parliament but had it forced on them to due the scotland UN commitee and a council of europe resolution in vienna.
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11/07/2008 00:10:55
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11/07/2008 00:11:19
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Am Balach,

Isle of Skye 11/07/2008 00:13:00
I think it's a disgrace that Gordon Brown has brought religion into this election. As Gerry Hassan pointed out on Newsnicht last nicht, faith now has no relevance to voting intentions.
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Senga Jean,

11/07/2008 00:16:19
The Great Deception is petty and juvenile in his comments. I suspect that his spelling indicates he is not a product of the Scottish education system
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11/07/2008 00:16:22
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Nestor Makhno,

Glasgow 11/07/2008 00:16:57
Re the Glsagow East election campaign, it was only a matter of time before a desperate Labour Party resorted to sectarianism. But to find the Scotsman right down there in the gutter with the likes of Foulkes is very depressing for anyone who cares about Scottish public life.
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Kent2,

11/07/2008 00:17:13
“In a surprise announcement…Brown delays embryo bill 'in bid to sway Catholic votes in by-election'”

Surprise? To whom?
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murren59,

11/07/2008 00:17:50
>Lord Foulkes' ire was raised by Mr Mason's publicly held views which include describing God Save the Queen as "an anti-Scottish song" and once demanding that a local school took down England flags put up during the last football World Cup.<

Well furrfoulkes sake, GSTQ is an anti-Scottish anthem...and unless there was a majority of English pupils in that school, why put up English flags?
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democracy,

Scottish Borders 11/07/2008 00:19:22
It does not matter one iota if Brown delays the 'embryo bill', the catholic electorate will not be swayed by such a blatant, cynical move!!
"Bye Bye, Brown".
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Jwil,

11/07/2008 00:24:43
But a Labour Party spokesman who is involved in the by-election campaign said: "We had no involvement in this decision. We had no knowledge of it."

The spokesman didn't need to know about if it was surreptitious assistance by the Labour party (wheels within wheels). If the central party didn't tell him than he could deny all knowledge of it, like above.

**********

In the radio programme 'Any Questions' recently, its English audience were asked by Jonathan Dimbleby if they would like to see the controversial verse removed from the National Anthem.

Not one of them said yes, and of the panel members only one of the four said they would like it removed.

*********

Have the Labour party forgotten what happened in Crewe when their sloganising about the wealthy Tory candidate went down like a lead balloon and they lost the by-election by a ton?



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Jeeemy,

St Andrews 11/07/2008 00:26:50
With Holyrood being in recess, why is the “Noble Lord” not in France partaking of the wine, and contributing to these columns with his usual hazy aplomb?

Or is it more likely he has along with the rest of the North British Branch of the (New) Labour party been ordered to remain in the trenches to repel those nasty Nationalist invaders.

To George and the rest of the brown envelope members your past endeavours are about to catch up with you all, and May the remainder of your days fleecing the Tax payer be as uncomfortable as possible.

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Traquir , Alba,

11/07/2008 00:34:03
Apparently there are no areas where Labour will
maintain any standard of ethics. Ms Curran
has already been caught lying
about where she even lives, wonder what other lies she
has been telling. Here is yet another one on a topic of critical
importance to Glasgow East - namely drugs -

"I have to tell Mr Sheridan that he is not listening to the ordinary people of Glasgow if he thinks that cannabis is not a problem. I will take Mr Sheridan to my constituency and show him the serious consequences of young people taking cannabis and then mixing it with other illegal drugs. Mothers Against Drugs will tell Mr Sheridan categorically, as they have told me, that the way that cannabis is used on the streets in Glasgow leads to extremely risky behaviour, to very serious problems"

see - tinyurl.com/6z4sgq

"At one point, acting as executive spokesperson, she delivered an emotive speech against the legalisation of cannabis during a debate on this issue, which surprised some people who knew that she had smoked the substance herself when she was a student."

see - tinyurl.com/584o6j

Daily Record, October 21, 1999

"LABOUR'S dope-smoking nightmare worsened last night over claims that more of their MSPs want to legalise cannabis."

"And MSPs Cathie Peattie, Cathy Jamieson and Margaret Curran were also said to have backed the move in a survey for the Big Issue magazine."

"Jamieson and Curran also hit out at the survey and claimed their names were not supposed to have been revealed."

see - tinyurl.com/6duuzy

New Labour are an embarrassment to Scotland and
need to be wiped off the political landscape.
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Kent2,

11/07/2008 00:44:11
19

Check out Brown's latest wheez:

“Road tax increase 'will hit 9.4m”

PS. perhaps you should rename yourself number two’s given the amount of effluence that you post.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 00:49:45

"Holy Watergate"!,?

The "embryo bill" has much interest in our lives as my DYW and I are in the middle of it, so to Speak!

I am no fan of Gordon Brown, but I might be now, the delay WAS Necessary, why be the,..

'Headless Chickens' Rushing into such an Important Issue,?

A 'Handful of People' making a rushed decision that will affect millions of lives and potential lives , must be WRONNG!

This Time its a,..

GOOD ON YOU GORDON BROWN!
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Nikostratos,

11/07/2008 00:51:26
#7 karinxxx,

karinxxx, you are a nut if you find the evidence give us a link

#24 Traquir

wow! she smoked cannabis as a student .......how highly unusual no doubt she was the only student to do so..........Traquir get a life pleese
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11/07/2008 00:53:42
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Traquir , Alba,

11/07/2008 00:54:12
32 Nikostratos

"#24 Traquir

wow! she smoked cannabis as a student .......how highly unusual no doubt she was the only student to do so..........Traquir get a life pleese"

The fact she did it is not surprising the lies
are what I was point out, perhaps you need
puff a bit less and bother reading the posts
properly :)
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 11/07/2008 00:55:47
#24

I kinda figured Magga was buzzed. Nobody could act that erratic or paranoid without a load of whacky tabaccy on board.
Probably phoning for the carry out pizza and putting on Led Zeppelin as I type this.

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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 00:58:05
Nicola Sturgeon just lurches from one failed policy to another.

This latest development is a disgrace, who is that man she is with by the way?
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Iainbroch,

Moray 11/07/2008 01:05:13
Fookes - the same drunk that bent over for Vlad the Impaler.
I guess he saw the opinion poll giving the SNP a huge lead in Glesga East.
Or was it the flags at half mast at Parkhead after they heard Barry Ferguson was going to be crocked for 3 months and Rangers might actually do something next season.
Or is the embryo bill being rushed through because they have identified the mutation that results in producing non Liebaah voting tendencies and other such criminality?
Besides I had to go to Phillipinnes to find practising Catholics. Where you just need to look at the girls and they get pregnant? I never saw any drunks there either.

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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 01:10:17
41

I don't like Labour either. Who is that guy beside Nicola Sturgeon by the way? Is it that tv chef Heston Blumenfeld? I'm sure I;ve seen that guy before, what's he doing beside Sturgeon? Is she trying to bring this nobody to someone's attention?
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LEAL,

11/07/2008 01:12:46
George Foulkes is an asset to the SNP almost on a par with Wendy.
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Kent2,

11/07/2008 01:13:59
42

Funnily enough, I don't think anyone likes you either by the way
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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 01:14:09
I hope that SNP supporters racist and derrogatory comments get deleted.

Please everyone report those racist comments, while I respect Nationalism, racism like that in the BNP has no place on these boards. As much as dislike the SNP, I agree they are not as racist as the BNP, so please can the SNP supporters desist from such vulgarity?
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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 01:14:49
44

Thanks for that, but do you know the mystery man's name? Would love to know, who is he?
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Steve,

Bo'ness 11/07/2008 01:19:36
45, go to bed. You are making a complete fool of yourself. And if you think your spiteful patter is going to win Labour a by-election, you are sorely mistaken.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 01:21:30

McPravda blog ~39,

You are holding the Fort Nicely!

Justice is all I want to see!
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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 01:25:09
49 Steve

I hope that you are not associating yourself with the racist comments at 25 and 31.

While you may not see eye to eye with the majority of people in Scotland politically, I would have hoped even an SNP voter like yourself would have been quicker to dissaciate yourself with such crass racism.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 01:29:20

McPravda blog ~53,

I like Wendy BTW! and admire her!

Its NOT the Last we will hear from Her!
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Kent2,

11/07/2008 01:34:38
45

Clearly you also support the right for mentalists to have their say and as much as I dislike trolling nutters, I agree that you are not as nutty as a mentalist (just).

However, as you are clearly off your head, I hope that you report yourself toot sweet and save us all the effort of getting your posts deleted.
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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 01:37:58
56

Fortunately some people heided my advice and reported the disgustingly racist comments from that Nationalist at 25 and 31 and the comments have now been deleted.

I would have thought rather than try and hound me about trying to get racism from nationalists deleted you would have denounced it also.

Shame on you.
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Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 11/07/2008 01:39:43
"If you should be a Catholic voter who is easily swayed by Labour postponing the decision on embryo laws, then you might also be interested in our new, once only offer: The Margaret Curran special. We will fudge our view on whether or not the Government were right to go to war with Iraq, we'll throw in a fudged view on whether or not road tax should go up, and we'll fudge the issue on whether or not it's right to detain people for 40 days if suspected of terrorist charges (or if they look dodgy). We'll also throw in a free promise to ask the chancellor to come up and speak to some folk - probably handpicked Labour activists - and ask what they think. So don't forget: it's Labour, it's big, and it's oh so very clever. Vote Margaret Curran."
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Kent2,

11/07/2008 01:42:18
58

Interesting that you use the word hound as I associate it with barking, pure coincidence I guess.
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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 11/07/2008 01:42:56
Here's hoping that Lord Geordie and Wendy canvass the East of Glasgow together.

What a double act.

It's worth remembering with Lord Geordie that he was the one that was 'parachuted' into Holyrood by the Labour high-heid yins to give the rest of their MSP's the benifit of his experience, which when you see how they have done, explains an awful lot!
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Sanny,

Portugal 11/07/2008 01:44:20
7 karinxxx
Well done Karin! I’ve repeatedly tried to get people to read the Scottish-UN papers which give the background to process whereby we gained Devolution. It was in the last days of Majors office that the Council of Europe threatened sanctions if the Westminster did not introduce a more democratic system. Lucky for Major he didn’t have time to do anything about and handed the bomb to Blair. Unable to do anything about it he lied and said it was part of Labour policy!!

I look forward to reading this document you’ve unearthed. I had approached Dr Wilkie about releasing further information but is restricted in what he is allowed to say.

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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 01:44:34
air falbh thu trolls.
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Rosscobhoy,

11/07/2008 01:47:10
I think the press are making far more of the Embryo thing than the voters will. Labours record on the economy and improving the East end so far will be the big vote swinnger here. I think Labour will still win this seat, i'd be amazed if they didn't, but a big swing away from them would send out a message and show what is on its way, cos the economic outlok will only get worse over the next year to year and a half. They are fecked for the next General Election, thats for sure.
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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 01:48:02
sanny put in an foi request to the foreign office because i can only get certain years they do the whole that is by the time limit thing. request either

the Council of Europe’s monitoring committee only over a maximum 2 years.
OR
? the monitoring of democracy in a specified country over a 1 year period for this one go for scotland.

start with 1993 and go from there. if you also request it which you can do by email from whereever you live then they have to give it to you.
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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 01:49:27
if they come back and say we cant do that it would take to long they let you refine your request it just takes longer but eventually you get something. The cabinet office were not playing at all and said they had nothing.
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Sanny,

Upwey 11/07/2008 01:49:37
9 Number: 6
You have just demonstrated the abysmal level of your ignorance of what will prove to be the most important documents in the modern government of the constituent parts of the United Kingdom.

Try doing a little research you might actually learn something and not appear such a fool all the time!

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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 01:49:51
its a paper trail but if you get one document it will lead by the date to another.
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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 01:52:47
im still waiting on one from teh cairns office which was referred to the scottish office but there is some trickery going on there because cairns and brownes office has all the info pre devolution and it specifically says it belfongs to them..
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Sanny,

Portugal 11/07/2008 01:52:53
Thanks Karin will start the research as soon as I have time. Stuck on a time consuming project at present.
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Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 11/07/2008 01:54:46
A wee quiz folks. True or false:

1) Margaret Curran was the Labour Party's first choice as candidate for Glasgow East.

2) Margaret Curran said she was the first choice as the Labour Party candidate for Glasgow East.

3) Margaret Curran lives and has always lived in Glasgow East.

4) Margaret Curran said she lived and has always lived in Glasgow East.

5) Stephen Purcell and Frank McAveety were out knocking the doors in Glasgow East last week.

6) After knocking the doors in Glasgow East last week, who declined to stand for the seat?

Stephen Purcell and/or Frank McAveety

7) Labour: Standing up for the East End?

The winner will get a signed copy of Jack McConnell's autobiography: "Tony and Me: our socialist revolution."
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karinxxx,

11/07/2008 01:57:12
sanny i really dont think im anywhere near finding the exact document i need but im closer than i was a month ago. i know where the trail starts now.
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Kent2,

11/07/2008 02:06:33
71

Can you send a copy of the book to The Great Deception, s\he\it likes romantic fantasies.
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Guga II,

Rockall 11/07/2008 02:08:06
Forfoulkesake, the Hootsmon persists in digging up that drunk and disorderly nobody to make a comment. How much do the Hootsmon pay him for the rubbish he spouts?

Now we have Maggie Broon, playing games to try and get the Catholic vote. Quite pathetic for a son of the manse. Then again, Vidkun Quisling was also a son of the manse.
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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 11/07/2008 02:09:55
I know this is way of topic but........why no comments allowed on the story of the MOD having to pay out millions on compensation to those Iraq's, one who was killed?

Is it because Britian being accused of war crimes at such a sensitive time might not look to good?

What politican should we hold responsible anyway?
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Sanny,

Portugal 11/07/2008 02:11:09
72 karinxxx

GOOD LUCK AND GOODNIGHT
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indune1,

Canada 11/07/2008 02:29:45

karinxx - how are you my sweet? I had the piano removed for cleaning.
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

11/07/2008 02:40:46
"OK, vote for us and we'll kill the babies later" said Gordon Brown to the terminally superstitious in a desperate bid for votes.

Hey Alberto: I saw that band play way back when.
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Edward,

11/07/2008 02:49:56
Newsnight Scotlands, much trailed debate between Margaret Curran and John Mason, which was scheduled for last night, didnt happen. Reason given by the boy Gordon was they were instructed by BBC Management that it should be will ALL the candidates. Which will be on Sunday. So instead Gordon interviewed Margaret Curran (well balanced innit!) Again the statement she was first choice was given. The interview was upto to usual standard for Ms Curran. Found it hillariously mind numbing!. Hope someone has got it on Youtube, failing that hope the Beeb dont manage to mysteriously loose it
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bring them on,

11/07/2008 03:35:09
The timing has nothing to do with the by-election, the bill is still in a embryonic stage
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yankey,

Leeds 11/07/2008 03:36:28


BONESS HARBOUR

As one who prays
God save us from the Religious

Perhaps a catholic can explain what the answer is to a keen churchman and Labour Cooncilloor

Father I have sinned
I have betrayed my fellow Catholics who voted for me and trust me and sold the biggest asset in the town for £50,000

Right my Son
Two Hail Marys ... and 10% to the CHURCH

Is that how it works ???

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The Great Deception,

11/07/2008 04:40:59
Having had the racism deleted from nationalists (who else?) at 25 and 31, I hope that the bigotted catholic/jewish/islamic insults at 82 are deleted (also made by a nationalist).

Disgraceful. Please report.
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Jaggy,

11/07/2008 05:24:19
Glasgow East is showing the whole world the extent to which the RC church controls the West of Scotland Labour part and influences the Labout government. It is hardly healthy for democracy to have unelected cardinals and bisops dictating policy to a supposedly democratic government.
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Ubi,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 05:44:38
If this is viewed as another cynical manipulation of the people by Labour, and is counter-productive, then justice will have been served.

The mangy old Labour dog hasn't learned any new tricks since the attempt to rig the Scottish ballot last year exploded in its muzzle.
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 11/07/2008 06:10:01
The labour party has and will not stop falling into the political void with mixing their pathetic religous views and useing that as an answer to thier COMPLETE AND UTTER LIES. Labour are now discredited in SCOTLAND GOODBYE!!!!!!!!!!
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donald,

glasgow 11/07/2008 06:44:24
Labour has always played the Sectarian card, "Home Rule is Rome Rule/A Free Scotland is Free Kirk". etc, both ends to the middle. Spot the Labour numpty MPs, MSPs, MEPs, Cooncillors, etc, at Ibrox and Parkheid. Spot the Labour Loyalists and Royalists in the Parkheid Boardroom. Being of the "Forces of the Crown" is compulsory.

Will John Reid and Brian Wilson canvas the Loyalist pubs in Duke Street with their Celtic rosettes?
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11/07/2008 07:18:37
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Jimmy the Pie,

11/07/2008 07:23:13
Litany of Lies


Could you vote for these people?????????????????

1. We have to invade Iraq, Saddam has WMD
2. WMD can be deployed in hours.
3. We will hold a referendum on the EU constitution.
4. We don’t accept cash for honours.
5. I have done nothing wrong
6. I have nothing wrong knowingly.
7. I broke the law – unknowingly.
8. Comrade Broon fully agrees with my referendum call
9. I have ended the boom/bust cycle.
10. There will only be 13,000 immigrants when the EU expands.
11. I have lived in Glasgow East all my life
12. More motorists will gain rather than lose by the car tax rises


I’m sure I’ve missed heaps. Feel free to add to the list
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11/07/2008 07:31:26
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Jimmy the Pie,

11/07/2008 07:38:36
#90
#90

Do you think the people of Iraq think having their country obliterated is on a par with £2000 for first time buyers???

I'm sure the electorate of Glasgow East will think carefully before they cast their votes.

No wonder your sleaze ridden party is crumbling before our eyes.

I see Red Wendy was back in the news again yesterday. Any thoughts on that, Comrade?????
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cabrach loon,

inverness 11/07/2008 07:48:55
more nugov spin and bribery - is there anything new in the brown streak
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M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 11/07/2008 07:53:16
#43
I agree with your sentiments; just not sure if Wendy shade's it a bit.... but then George is a plonker of that there is no doubt ?
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Jimmy the Pie,

11/07/2008 08:05:12
I see Comrade Broon is trying to divert attention away from the shambles he has created in Scotland.

From the Independent.

Gordon Brown is being accused of preparing for a military adventure in Africa after he pledged to provide backing to the Nigerian security forces.

I'm sure the poor voters of Glasgow East will be following events in Nigeria closely??
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/07/2008 08:07:09
A schoolboy error here. Everyone knows it's *devout* Catholic, staunch *Protestant*. You can't start messing with this now, Ross Lydall.
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La5t_minit,

11/07/2008 08:25:38
"....Mr Brown previously issued a personal plea for MPs to support the bill, and offered a series of free votes at earlier stages to minimise the risk of a ministerial rebellion".

More freebies from this lunitic to all his mates so he can push through yet another unwanted peice of BS.
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boudica,

Glasgow 11/07/2008 08:27:39
Traquir I see you and your SNP campaigning staff are still hard at work are we paying you by the way ...and you have ommited to inform us of the following ...I can understand why you and your staff didnt want this leaked ..yep the SNP really care for the Public dont they ..is this the SNP Housing Policy of the Future

A POLITICIAN who has campaigned against poor housing owns a flat in a slum building.

SNP councillor Jahangir Hanif is renting the two-bedroomed flat to a family of Romanians in a street so bad that residents have nicknamed it "Ground Zero".

Just last week, Hanif promised at a public meeting that he would bring Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to the street in Glasgow to show her how appalling it is.

Hanif - whose flat is in Westmoreland Street in Govanhill - told the angry meeting of 200 local residents that it was wrong for landlords to keep the properties in poor condition.

But he failed to tell them that he makes £500 a month renting out his flat there to a family of five Romanian Big Issue sellers.

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Michael,

11/07/2008 08:30:26
http://www.stv.tv/news/Labour_Lauches_byelection_campaign_080708151253368

Now you know why they said Wendy was the brainy one.
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Linda,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 08:36:16
YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph today which puts the SNP ahead of Labour in voting intentions for a UK General Election (change from the 2005 election in brackets):

SNP: 33% (+15)
Lab: 29% (-11)
Con: 20% (+4)
Lib Dem: 14% (-9)

Last October Labour had a lead of 42% to 27% for the SNP in the YouGov poll.

The poll shows that most Scots want the SNP to win the Glasgow East by-election:

49% want the SNP’s John Mason to win. 33% want Labour’s Margaret Curran to win.

However we have Daily Record acting as a propaganda sheet for Labour and publication costs should be included in Labour’s election expenses.
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boudica,

Glasgow 11/07/2008 08:39:51
Jimmy the Pie here are a couple to add to your List

13 I Alec Salmond have claimed more Expenses from
Westminster in less than 7yrs than Gordon Brown to the tune of £815.692
14 I Nicole Sturgeon totally ignored Report on Dealing with Deadly Infections when as health Minister I have should have read it and implimented the the findings as soon as possible but even though I had repeated warnings on C-Diff outbreak that have resulted in Deaths.... but I hope to gain sympathy for my error by revealing that I also lost a family member who suffered from this at the end of their life will go some way to get me out of this mess ...
14..Our fight Against Slum Landlords in Glasgow with be Fronted by a Slum Landlord ..well as they say it takes one to know one ..we do see this as a successful stragegy ....
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Linda,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 08:42:20
FROM SUNDAY HERALD 27 April 2008-04-27

“Respected” politician Lord George Foulkes has 3 jobs, but claimed overnight expenses on property he owned.
A SENIOR Labour peer has been criticised after he claimed nearly £45,000 in overnight expenses to stay in a property he inherited from his late mother.
George Foulkes, who is also an MSP, billed the public to stay in a London flat registered as his company's address.
In 2005, he sold one Edinburgh property and bought another in the capital for £305,000 , without a mortgage. He sold his home in Ayrshire for £600,000 - a deal that made him a £400,000 profit - and bought a cottage in Maybole for £280,000, again without a loan.
His London abode also appears to be the business address for his work as a director and political consultant with Carrick Court Associates, which makes £50,000 per year.

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Dung like a Honky,

paradise 11/07/2008 08:50:38
if o'brien continues to meddle in politics he should be sent back to Ireland where he belongs. It's ridiculous that these dress-wearing and kiddy fiddling deists are given such press coverage at all. If they want to believe in their invisible friend and participate in pseudo cannibalism on a Sunday then let them do it somewhere else, but let them pay for it themselves and not the taxpayer.
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/07/2008 08:54:08
#106 Much as I agree with your sentiment (he should stop misrepresenting Catholic views and meddling in politics) the idea that he belongs in Ireland is faintly ridiculous. He has lived in Scotland since he was about 7. He went to school with my mum.
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brownlie,

11/07/2008 09:04:32
What is the significance of this paper printing:

"Glasgow East has the fifth-highest number of Catholics in Scotland with more than a third of its voter some 23,185 declaring themselves Catholics in the last sentence. The constituency is also home to Celtic Park"

Does the "also" assume that only Catholics support Celtic?
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Linda,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 09:06:00
Of course Gordon Brown has lower expenses. It is cheaper to travel from Kirkcaldy to London than from North East. Also how often does Gordon Brown visit his constituency?
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brownlie,

11/07/2008 09:12:18
103 Boudica

Did you factor into your statement regarding expenses that Gordon Brown has had his "grace and favour" residence paid for by tax-payers for the last ten years. Presumably his taxes are on top of that.
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/07/2008 09:14:05
#108 Are you suggesting that the generally accepted idea that many Celtic supporters are Catholics is false? There was no suggestion that "only" Catholics are Celtic supporters as far as I can see.
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11/07/2008 09:17:20
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Jimmy the Pie,

11/07/2008 09:17:56
So Comrade Broon wants the controversial Embryo Bill shelved until after the by-election.

We should make sure it stays in the forefront
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Nikostratos,

11/07/2008 09:18:49
#101 Linda

What with all i say 'all' the disasters etc for labour over the last 12 months. The surprise is this poll only has a lead of 4% (margin of error ) when even the tories are showing far larger leads(although shrinking)
The truth is the snp should be doing much better than this poll indicates.

Only third of Scots favour independence
"The "No" vote has a clear 12 point lead over the "Yes" vote, with 48 per against independence, 36 per cent in favour and 14 per cent unsure. Some previous polls have shown a much narrower margin between the two camps.

In a previous YouGov poll, when a third option of increased powers for a devolved parliament was included, only 19 per cent backed independence."

"However, pro-Union parties can take heart from the fact that a majority of(scots) voters not only oppose the break-up of the UK, but are also comfortable with the "furniture" of Unionism."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/2281959/Only-third-of-Scots-favour-independence.html

Linda every silver lining has a cloud and in the snps case a big black one..Oh dear shame never mind
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Dung like a Honky,

paradise 11/07/2008 09:20:22
#107. Exactly my point Duncan. Whether he came here at 7 or 70 is moot. He remains a guest in the UK and should behave accordingly.
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Jimmy the Pie,

11/07/2008 09:22:56
Watching Comrade Curran on Newsnicht I was amazed when she said she would bring Comrade Darling to the constituency to show him the problems.

Was the last MP, Comrade Harrison (Now retired!), too busy skimming his £500K to do anything for his constituents????

This sums up New Labour Sleaze.
They care about their pals in the city and don't give a 4xxx for the electorate!
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brownlie,

11/07/2008 09:27:55
111 Duncan

Why bring Celtic Park into the equation?

By your reckoning, therefore, they should have mentioned that the "Forge Shopping Centre" is also in the constituency on the likelihood that more Catholics than any other religion go shopping there.
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Wee Hugh,

11/07/2008 09:28:33
Re 115

Cardinal O'Brien was born in Northern Ireland which the last time I looked was part of the United Kingdom.
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 09:43:38
Why bring Celtic FC into this?
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Jimmy the Pie,

11/07/2008 09:44:04
Will Maggie Curran be encouraging all the electorate of Glasgow East/South to take part in Comrade Broon's 'Britishness Day'.

It'll be a lovely photo shoot, with everyone waving their Union Jacks , all the houses covered in red, white and blue bunting and all the kids with their Union Jack face paint on.

Comrade Broon could even visit!!!
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Red Tower,

Dunoon 11/07/2008 09:44:53
The mind boggles at the contempt in which Brown holds Roman Catholics voters in this by election. Does he honestly believe that in postponing the Bill RC voters, who are committedly against this legislation and in consequence likely to vote against Labour, will now vote for Labour.

This is contempt with a capital C. This is one pathetic politician.
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Red Tower,

Dunoon 11/07/2008 09:48:29
Why does Jimmy the Pie not just come out and declare his party allegiance. Why are Tories so unwilling to put forward the policies of their party?
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Pink Sombrero,

11/07/2008 09:53:37
Very little (well none in fact) of the fact that Wendy Alexander was told by parliamentary staff that she should register those cash donations. Why is this?

And judging by the shrill panic and desperation in boudica's posts I thunk we can conclude the Labour campaign for Newton Mearns/Glasgow East is not going too well,