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Published Date: 18 May 2009
LABOUR today admitted major parties could be snubbed by voters in the European election as it launched its Scottish campaign in Glasgow.
The launch is set against a backdrop of low poll ratings for Labour and the continuing row over Westminster expenses.

David Martin, who is seeking re-election to the European Parliament, said he feared a low turnout. And Scots Secretary Jim Murphy warned of the danger that the far-right BNP could pick up disillusioned voters.

The party said today it aims to put jobs and the economy at the heart of its campaign, and attacked both the Tories and the SNP.

Mr Martin told the launch at the Glasgow Science Centre: "We think we have a good message and our message, apart from the positive element of our campaign, is that this is an election where you do not make soft choices or use it as protest vote.

"This is an election about putting people in place who will work for a secure and better future for this country."

Mr Martin said later he feared the public may go beyond anger to an indifference to mainstream politics that would benefit fringe parties.

"My fear is that we are going to get a lot of people who will just stay at home and that we will get a lower turnout than normal for the European election," said Mr Martin.

And Mr Murphy said: "I am not making any predictions – we will win the number of seats that the Scottish public give us, and we will fight for every vote."

And he pointed to Labour's victory last year in the Glenrothes by-election where it held that seat against predictions.

He acknowledge the Westminster expenses scandal had damaged "the whole system" but said this affected every party.

"The worry would be that public will say 'none of the above' and vote for the fanatics of the BNP", he said.

"We all understand people's frustration but a vote for the BNP is a vote for the politics of hate and racism and holocaust denial."

The Scottish turnout in the last European elections in 2004 was 30.75% but in 1999 it was even lower at 24.7%

The last European election saw seven MEPs elected in Scotland – two Labour, two SNP, two Tories and one Liberal Democrat – but the total number of Scottish seats has been reduced to six.

At today's launch Mr Martin said: "The pressing issue is the economy. Labour MEPs are determined to play a part in creating a fairer Scotland where we can get back on track and fight for jobs."

And Labour leader Iain Gray said: "There is no division of responsibility for getting out of recession because there are no Scotland-only solutions. We have to work together across the UK and across Europe, and focus on jobs."

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1

lulach mac gille coemgain,

18/05/2009 13:59:22
The party said today it aims to put jobs and the economy at the heart of its campaign

Ha ha ha - that auld chestnut ? noo where’s ma expenses sheet ?
2

nova albion,

18/05/2009 14:25:13
WOW!how long did it take them to come up with that conclusion. In England the parties to benefit from labours demise are- Tories,UKIP,English democrats,Libdems and unfortunatly the BNP.
3

smokey joe 1,

18/05/2009 14:27:58
Prepare for the dole Murphy.
Labour are going to lose big time.
4

nova albion,

18/05/2009 14:47:34
Please STOP the BNP at all costs,our fathers fought a war to stop these facists.
5

Rosscobhoy,

18/05/2009 14:55:53
UKIP and BNP voters are probably most likely to vote. A poor turn out will obviously affect the bigger parties more than it will them. Is the Euro election fptp or pr?
6

Gorach,

Oban 18/05/2009 15:05:15
SNP
7

nova albion,

18/05/2009 15:08:12
6.pr
8

macca,

Australia 18/05/2009 15:18:00
Vote SNP and end the wait, keep them honest :-(
9

Curley Bill,

18/05/2009 15:21:45
#5 I totally agree, and in Scotland the best way to defeat all the BritNatParties is to vote for the party led by Scotland's Greatest Living Politician.
A vote for the SNP is a vote for Scotland.
10

nova albion,

18/05/2009 15:24:42
11. Guess you have little choice,but in all honesty the Salty Nuts Party is really not the way forward.
11

nova albion,

18/05/2009 15:28:20
10. Go back to your billabong.
12

Raymond Thomas Brooke,

Leven England 18/05/2009 16:00:03
They think by apologising every thing is ok we will NOT forget you are robbing B......s
13

Jimmy Le Pie,

18/05/2009 16:07:48
Looks like the HoC has degenerated into utter chaos that is the trade mark of New Labour Sleaze.

Gorbals was unbelievable in his statement about expenses.

Looks like a General Election is inevitable.

Go back to your constituencies and prepare to wipe out New Labour Sleaze!!
14

Jimmy Le Pie,

18/05/2009 16:14:47
How's Governor General, Comrade Murphy's expenses looking?

Whiter than white???

I very much doubt it!!
15

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18/05/2009 16:18:47
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GOODBYE LONDON LABOUR,

Aberdeen 18/05/2009 16:34:44
Labour sleaze is the hallmark of this rotting union and the first hammer-blow will be delivered on June 4th by the SNP. London Labour have nothing to offer the people of Scotland except despair, negativity and corruption.
VOTE SNP
17

jockstrap,

Paphos 18/05/2009 16:45:40
I don't think Murphy has to worry about the BNP in Scotland.He's just parroting New Labour speak in England.
18

Edward,

18/05/2009 16:46:43
What amazes me is that Labour MEP's have done zip for Scotland, so why should we believe them?
They only follow what London tells them
We need more SNP MEP's to work in tandem with the SNP Scottish Government
We certainly dont need a corrupt Labour party telling us that we should vote for them!
19

Edward,

18/05/2009 16:47:45
#19 jockstrap
I noticed that, no mention of the SNP, which for Scottish Labour is unusual. All Murph is doing is reading his London script
20

McNic,

A soon to be Free and Pleasant Land 18/05/2009 17:12:28
| know its not very p.c to wish ill on anybody but I do hope The "Skull" Murphy has a very bad year!
21

ExpatNL,

glasgow 18/05/2009 17:19:21
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Westmonster, Monty Python in 3D ;¬)


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22

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18/05/2009 17:44:44
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The Creature from the Black Lagoon,

18/05/2009 17:45:48
I see England launched its World Cup Campaign today.

That is sure to have Frank McBride choking on his haggis.
24

hoblar,

18/05/2009 17:49:45
MP's expences?

New Labour have a massive list of wrongs just as bad as that little controversy!

Don't give them a vote.
25

McNic,

In front of the computer 18/05/2009 18:16:57
Its a rather strange and telling fact that, since we have been told of the abject dishonesty of our southern rulers and their northern dogs, we have not had any SLAB Press Releases concerning the fact that if we dont build new nuclear plants in Scotland we will all die off in the cold and dark.

Is this due to the fact that all the SLAB power brokers have been swilling at the E.D.F nuclear trough.

I think we should be told!

No column inches for the 5 new Hydro plans being considered or the dozen or so other applications in front of the Scot Govt.
26

Jimmy Le Pie,

18/05/2009 18:17:11
#25 Rufus,

When did the World Cup start???

I thought it was next year!!

Mind you England will lose on penalties yet again!!

Did you get a fixture pull-out in today's Hootsmon??

Has the World Cup been brought forward by Comrade Broon to coincide with Britishness Day and take our minds off expenses fraud, forthcoming elections, bankrupt economy and boom and bust???


NEW LABOUR SLEAZE - WORLD FRAUD CHAMPIONS
27

Blarney,

Arbroath 18/05/2009 18:18:55
SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!SNP!
28

Wyrdtimes,

Land of fools... 18/05/2009 18:29:14
Sorry off topic but of interest whilst on the subject of McBroon.

Scottish chums have you seen this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8055866.stm

Brown talking about the England 2018 world cup bid.

He talks of England fondly as "our country", "our teams" and even - check this - "our world cup triumph" lol.

Funny that normally he can't bring himself to even say the word "England" despite the fact that 90% of his political time is dedicated to shafting the place.

Do the decent thing at get rid will you? Better still and for crying out loud vote SNP.
29

murren59,

isle of Arran 18/05/2009 18:37:45
Did embiddy hear Prince Willie, President of the
E.F.A, talking up England for the 2018 World Cup?
Nice to ignore the other Home Country F.A's and be
an English fan for the Prince of this supposed
United Kingdom.
He also stated something about this small island...
my question to his RH is, when did England become
an island?
30

The Creature from the Back Lagoon,

18/05/2009 18:40:40
#23, 24 Poofus

On the rampage again?
The Hootsman board clown.
31

Jimmy Le Pie,

18/05/2009 18:42:09
Just watch that idiotic old soak Lard Foolkes again on the BBC News.

Has he got a 4th home in BBC Hoose???

I'll bet the corrupt old fool is charging expenses plus guzzling freely from the free bar.

NEW LABOUR SLEAZE - ENTITLED TO RULE IN PERPETUITY!
32

Wyrdtimes,

Land of fools... 18/05/2009 18:44:30
#30

Wishful thinking?

Anyway I think he said "islands" and England has islands - not many but just enough.
33

Barney Thomson,

Reading 18/05/2009 19:21:56
As an exile who lives in England and a supporter of Scottish Independence, I have despaired of finding a party to vote for in the forthcoming elections and I am sure that I am not alone. For years, I have voted Labour in the belief that they are closer to looking after the interests of the common man than the privilege-drenched and extreme alternatives. Recent events have proved this not to be the case. My forefathers fought and died so that I could have the right to vote so "abstention" is not an alternative.
I have just seen a PEB by a party called the English Democrats - I know nothing about them but they believe in Scottish Independence and now there is a possible recipient for my vote. I'm going to check out whether they are overly racist, exclusivist, etc. in their other policies so may change my mind but I am posting this now to suggest to others who find themselves in my predicament that there may be a party that we can vote for in England who will further the cause of Scottish Independence
34

Jimmy Le Pie,

18/05/2009 19:23:34
Hey Rufus,

The Broon bounce is back!!

Our Dear Leader's petition has shot down to 67!!

The other petition is now languishing at 60,046.


NEW LABOUR SLEAZE - WE DON'T NEED A MANDATE TO RULE!
35

Barney Thomson,

Reading 18/05/2009 19:40:46
Wyrdo #29
Just looked at Broon on the link. Sorry for not coming back sooner but I've just spent 5 minutes throwing up.

Cameron - "England, and the whole of the United Kingdom, would offer a warm and passionate welcome..."

Yeah, right!
36

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 18/05/2009 19:49:20
Every time I see Gordo Broon I see an increasingly greying, hollow & black-eyed, tired, clapped-out man whose health is suffering clearly from the strain. Surely for the sake of his health & family, he step down.

My God, I'm being sympathetic to him!!! :-O
37

Columba doing the Rumba,

18/05/2009 20:28:30
I've just seen a party election broadcast down here in Kent for the English Democrats, and I can say it what a load of keech.

Their whole argument was "Scotland get's this, Wales get's that", without actually saying how they'd transform British politics for the better. It was the classic hard luck story.

Can you imagine the SNP being so petty, there'd be all sorts of comments about the racist SNP, and yet it's fine for the English to whinge about how us dirty Scots are robbibg their green and pleasant land.

The English hate us down here because we have the temerity to send 59 MPs to the 646 seat UK parliament.

So why we Scots would want to remain in this so-called Union of Equal Parts is beyond me.
38

Barney Thomson,

Reading 18/05/2009 20:34:15
#38 Columba
Of course it's keech but the point is that here is an anti-Unionist party in England. Still haven't checked if their racism extend beyond British borders.
39

Tris,

18/05/2009 20:52:20
".........And he pointed to Labour's victory last year in the Glenrothes by-election where it held that seat against predictions........"

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Does this mean we need to be specially careful with the postal votes and have an armed guard on the voting registers?
40

English Voice,

18/05/2009 20:52:59
40. Tris

how naive!

We are New Labour! Just try to keep track of our addresses! We will second home postal vote you to death!
41

English Voice,

18/05/2009 20:53:32
37. Cystitis is no laughing matter.
42

Barney Thomson,

Reading 18/05/2009 21:05:56
Re #34 - Just checked the English Democrats site and they seem to be yet another pseudo-nazi BNP splinter group. Can't vote for them. Oh well, back to the Greens, then.
43

English Voice,

18/05/2009 21:15:08
"Labour today admitted there COULD be a backlash"

God love us in New Labour, totally in touch!
44

Soloman,

Stirling 18/05/2009 22:02:30
From Mr Murphy

And he pointed to Labour's victory last year in the Glenrothes by-election where it held that seat against predictions.

The people of Glenrothes, deserve an explanation from Mr Murphy as to where the stolen registers went and why so many postal votes were recorded.

X BREAK FREE X

X VOTE SNP X

INDEPENDENCE from Westminster,Brown,Murphy,Mandelson etc.

45

hoblar,

18/05/2009 22:07:52
What happened to the good old 'tory threat' if you didn't vote Labour in Scotland? lol

Times have moved on, but lwhat murphy and abour in Scotland are doing are morris dancing to the tune of England votes with a hey nonny nonny!
46

Astonished,

18/05/2009 22:10:27
I have noticed the utter silence on the mp for glenrothes and postal votes from the Scottish media. So I think it is very safe to assume it was another labour fiddle.

Roll on the backlash !


Happily there is also a growing backlash against pro-labour 'journalism'. I believe glen campbell of the BBC has been given a stern talking to regarding his labour @rse licking. I do hope Mr maddox and others take note.

It seems likely 'truth and reconciliaion' is just around the corner.
47

alanh,

ek 18/05/2009 22:58:21
I am really annoyed at Murphy.

Why would any follower of any of the major parties cast their vote for the BNP?
Is that how little Mr Murphy thinks of his supporters. That when his party are mired in sleaze that their support will go to BNP. Why would any socialist, yep many disillusioned nu liebore sleaze and spin , north brittian dept, supporters are actually socialists (pity your party aint any more Murphy) support that party.
Ok if there is a sharp drop in voter numbers then the BNP may gain ground in percentage terms but it beggars belief that Murphy thinks his party supporters would only vote BNP or them
48

alanh,

ek 18/05/2009 23:03:55
There is already a large postal vote, more so than any previous election, applied for for the euro election.

I really hope it gets checked this time
49

Alan B,

18/05/2009 23:57:05
Labour are taking a weird approach by continually talking up the BNP.

It comes across as a way to try to spread the blame for the expenses scandal.

Why not say people in england may vote for the lib dems? Or in scotland people will flock to the lib dems and snp (bnp have not made the inroads as in england).

As such labour are playing a very dangerous game in order to preserve power.
50

Brianwci,

19/05/2009 02:03:59
#30 muren59: ...when did England become an island?

I've seen several references to England as an island this year alone in a couple of old documentaries and an old black and white movie.

It was common place up until the late 60s. What happened then I wonder....oh Yes HAMILTON happened....well done Winnie

But that Brown speech today was nauseating in his desire to please the English he is desperate to be seen as one.

We must release him soon of his nightmare of being a Scottish MP in a Scottish constituency.
51

Brianwci,

19/05/2009 02:07:05
Oh, I should add there is even film evidence of Prime Minister MacMillan at an International conference with the word ENGLAND in front of him designating which country he represented.

And they wonder why the SNP exists and is now blistering towards the finishing line?
52

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 19/05/2009 05:44:50
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.
Your out of work and on the dole,
You can stuff the red flag up your hole.
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.

'Twas in Westminsters halls so fair,
That they dragged me to the Speakers Chair,
As I tried to protest and kick,
They Shouted "We Want Gorbals Mick".
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.

I repayed the Kindness best I could,
By ruling that their claims where good,
For Porn, Moats or Second Homes,
Home Theaters or Garden Gnomes.
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.

I did my best to keep it quiet,
I knew taxpayers would probably riot.
So I stifled all tries for transperency
"What do you think this is, a democracy?"
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.

Ive failed in all my best attempts
To keep our dodgy expenses exempt
Now they all want to take my chair.
This really is just so unfair.
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.

I will hang on as long as I can,
I've got no interest in the working man,
I came into politics to get whats mine,
£100,000 severance will do just fine!
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I've got the Speakers' job at last.
53

FerryPort,

19/05/2009 22:51:14
Kiss anyone's ass
This has got ridiculous.
Labour fear backlash? Nah..
Being lectured not to vote for "minor" parties
SNP ain't no minor party Mr Murphy, it is the governing party of Scotland and how dare you couch your "caution" around BNP
How dare you.
BNP do not have a fingerhold in Scotland, so why caution us on it?

KampungHighlander. I loved the poem, I left a comment on another thread.

54

FerryPort,

19/05/2009 22:57:38
In fact he is right
Don't vote for the minority parties i.e. Labour
55

livilion,

livingston 20/05/2009 18:08:03
#51 Brianwci
I blame the telly and mass media:
Euro96 Gordon Brown's favourite sporting memory - Gazza's lobbed goal against Scotland and dentist chair celebration at Wembley was when the St George's flag was generaly adopted by England's fans in preference to the Union flag, but only because Scotland had the Saltire and UEFA would not permit England to 'represent' GB(Gordon Brown?)

However, even eg today most English(and the odd-Irish) tv and radio presenters have bother calling their own part of the archipelago 'England' and tend to use 'Britain' inappropriately on the odd times they are at all conscious of a celtic audience. Up here we notice that British agreements are usually Anglo agreements, where my understanding is that the Anglos themselves were only ever even a fraction of the English population.
Famously in the film The Battle of Britain; when their Adolf was heard to say that his luftwaffe was going to bomb English cities to the ground, the English subtitles helpfully translated this as 'British' cities.

Any US commentator will also still use 'England' and 'English' to describe all pertaining to Britain, our young royals (even on the impartial BBC) are 'future kings & queens of England'. Rarely if ever is our monarch refered to anything other than Queen of England, at home or abroad.

So what chance do our chums south of the border stand?

So stop stirring, be British and be proud to be English like everyone else.

 

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