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Brown urged to get involved in Glenrothes campaign as date is set



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Published Date: 07 October 2008
Labour's campaign in the Glenrothes by-election would be helped if Gordon Brown visited the constituency, a minister said today.
Scottish Secretary Jim Murphy said the Prime Minister would bring "real benefit" to the campaign if he found it possible to attend.

Mr Murphy confirmed the contest will take place on November 6 and said SNP plans for a local incom
e tax were the dominant local issue.

His comments on whether Mr Brown should attend go further than senior minister Douglas Alexander, who said on Saturday it was a matter for the Prime Minister whether to take part.

Mr Murphy told BBC Radio Scotland's Good Morning Scotland: "I think it would be a real benefit to Labour's campaign if the Prime Minister can attend, so we'll be talking about that."

He went on: "But I think most people in Glenrothes in truth would rather he was certain he was doing everything he could in the economic crisis.

"If he is able to do that and come to Glenrothes, I think he would be a great boost to our campaign, so I think it makes sense."

All parties have been campaigning in the constituency for some time, and Labour is not having a formal campaign launch.

Instead Mr Murphy, along with Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray, will go straight into campaign mode today in the Fife town.

The seat, where Labour is defending a majority of 10.664, fell vacant with the death of MP John MacDougall.

The November 6 date had been widely predicted and the SNP accused Mr Brown of trying to "bury" the poll in the publicity over the US elections, which will take place two days beforehand.

SNP MP Mike Weir said: "In Glasgow East Labour held a snap by-election hoping voters were on holiday, and now in Fife they are hoping to bury the by-election in the aftermath of the US presidential election."

The SNP is hoping for a repeat of its Glasgow East triumph, where it captured a nominally safe Labour seat in its Scottish industrial heartland.

In 2006 Labour suffered a spectacular humiliation in another corner of Mr Brown's political backyard, when the Liberal Democrats captured Dunfermline and West Fife – another nominally impregnable Labour seat – from his party.

Bookies have already made the SNP 1-4 favourites to win.

Labour is planning a big drive to encourage electors in Glenrothes to register for a postal vote.

Labour's candidate is Lindsay Roy, 59, a headteacher at Gordon Brown's old school, Kirkcaldy High School.

In what was viewed by his opponents as a gaffe, last month he said he would be "disappointed" if Mr Brown did not come to Glenrothes to campaign for him.

Labour plans to distribute 20,000 leaflets in the first 48 hours of the campaign.

The SNP candidate is Peter Grant, leader of Fife council.

The Tories and the Liberal Democrats are also in the contest and have also started campaigning.

Mr Murphy said Labour would take no-one for granted.

"I have stood in my constituency of East Renfrewshire on three occasions, and every pundit has said I will lose my seat," said Mr Murphy.

"I have won on each occasion because I don't take anyone for granted and I won't take anyone for granted in Glenrothes."

He claimed that local income tax was the biggest local issue.

"The fact is, in the constituency of course the overlay is the unprecedented economic situation," he said.

"But the specific local issue that is coming up very regularly is genuine worries at difficult times about increases in local income tax."



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1

ThomasP,

07/10/2008 13:59:29
I hope the SNP win.
2

fifeis great,

Kirkcaldy 07/10/2008 14:25:30
I hope the gnats loose.
3

ThomasP,

07/10/2008 14:26:28
I've never heard of a 'gnats'...
4

Vote UKIP,

07/10/2008 15:03:09
#1 I hope the UKIP win!
5

Rasco,

07/10/2008 15:04:24
I would think the party with over a 10,000 majority should hold that seat they must be worried about something if they are that scared,will it be the same scare mongering we have heard before the last Holyrood elections.Nobody has told me where to send my extra £5000 I would have to pay if the SNP won that election.
6

roughrider,

Glasgow 07/10/2008 15:16:04
Rasco.
Looks as if the liebour mob meant that if the SNP won
then Broon would clobber us with 5 grand punishment fee. Broon might be to busy destroying whats left of the economy.
Id be surprised if Broon has the bottle to show up at Glenrothes.

Vote SNP you know it makes sense.
7

Puling Prince Roman,

Hopeing thi Gnats wil loose 07/10/2008 15:21:50
"I hope the gnats loose."

What would you like the 'gnats' to 'loose' fifeisgreat?

Oh I see. You mean you hope the Scot Nats will lose.

Are you a sample of NuLab's triumphant ten-year 'Education, Educayshun, Ejookayshin" policy by any chance?
8

steve52,

Kinfauns 07/10/2008 15:45:31
I am sure Gordon will pop up and explain to the good folks of Fife why it was not urgent to get them a new MP, well not as urgent or important as Glasgow east.

Lots of ex. miners in the area so lets hope they all remember Gordon robbing their pension funds.

Gordon may not come but he could send Mandy or two fingers fat bloke.
9

Brian Hill,

07/10/2008 15:49:54
"Labour plans to distribute 20,000 leaflets in the first 48 hours of the campaign."

It was 20000 in 36 hours in an earlier article....are you sure it shouldn't be:

Labour are meeting to discuss the possibility of setting up a committee to look into the possibility of having 20000 leaflets printed before the end of the campaign?

Joking aside, the importance of this by election is as obvious to Labour as everyone else and they are going to throw everything and everybody into it.

Forget all this 4 to 1 odds on nonsense, this will be a close fight to the death because an SNP win here will confirm that the SNP have indeed replaced Labour as the dominant force in Scotland.

Brown's dilemma is that if he campaigns it will be seen as a sign of desperation and of he doesn't it will be seen as a sign that Labour know the election is lost.

An SNP win might also see the first of many Labour defections both in Holyrood and Westminster, a trickle which will develop rapidly following the 2009 European Elections and the 2010 General Election thus guaranteeing a YES vote in the 2010 Independence Referendum.

Glenrothes will be the point of no return. The tipping point will have been reached. It's a battle Labour cannot lose.
10

James.com,

07/10/2008 15:51:15
I will only vote if Brown comes (for the SNP!)
11

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 15:51:34
If they are really serious about the Union then Labour and the LibDems reallly need to structure an election pact here. The Libdems polled over four thousand votes in the last election-they should withdraw in favour of the Lab candidate in return for some suitable quid pro quo. In the absence of such a pact then an SNP win with an overall Unionist majority as in Glasgow East is the almost certain outcome-another split vote gift to the nats
12

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 16:00:42
9 Brian hill-good post! On balance, I think GB should campaign. Notwithstanding his unpopularity and that of NuLab, i think most of the electorate would see his participation not as desperation, but as a serious acknowledgement of his party's situation and his determination to put things right.
13

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 16:02:46
10 James.com-how do you mean? I think it unlikely that Brown will come(for the SNP) :)
14

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 16:07:35
10 James-I will only vote(for the SNP!) if Brown comes!

Syntax James,syntax.You leave yourself open to corny riposte with your version at 10! :)
15

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07/10/2008 16:21:10
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07/10/2008 16:45:06
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17

The Master,

07/10/2008 16:48:01
#11 Geoff: I see where you're coming from, but I really can't endorse your idea of a Lab/Lib pact to defeat the Nats.

Surely this would be self defeating, by over egging the rise of the Nats and by embedding the idea that there are two types of parties, "nationalist" and "unionist", and that all other issues apart from the constitutional one can go hang.

Having said all this, I wouldn't discourage you from indulging in some lateral thinking in the quest to rid Scotland of the inward looking negativity of nationalism.
18

The Master,

07/10/2008 17:05:26
Murphy's shaping up nicely as a potential roadblock to the seemingly unstoppable nationalist juggernaut.

This is a man who, as he said, has for many years held what was once a very safe Scottish Tory seat and who has honed in on poll tax 2 as a fairly obvious nationalist Achilles Heal, hitting as it does families on two middle incomes or youngsters who still live with their parents as they can't afford to get a foot on the property ladder.

Murphy may not be able to turn Glenrothes around in the current global economic climate, but he certainly seems to have his finger on the pulse and can only be seen as the right choice to restore Labour fortunes in the medium to long term. Well done to Gordon on this cabinet level appointment who, unlike Browne before him, has the time to counter much of the nationalist nonsense which currently goes largely unchallenged.
19

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 17:08:32
17 The master-you are right-such a pact does simplify the election down to one issue although from a unionist perspective it could be argued "What is more important than the integrity of ones country! Havingh said that though I am sure that there are nationalists within the ranks of the "Unionist" Parties and many Unionists vote SNP as a. a protest vote and b. a recognition that the SNP might be the right Holyrood Party for Scotland. A Referendum is needed sooner or later to "settle" the issue in the medium term. My suggestion of NuLab-LibDems working together is based on the fact that they have done so in the past and also have broadly similar policies.
Rgrds from SA.
20

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 07/10/2008 17:27:10
Finger on the pulse? From the look of him, Murphy doesn't even HAVE a pulse.
21

European Scot,

07/10/2008 17:32:28
17 The Master

" I wouldn't discourage you from indulging in some lateral thinking in the quest to rid Scotland of the inward looking negativity of nationalism."

What a joke !
The idea of seeking Independence is to open up contact with the rest of the World, not remaining in an inward looking British colonial set up, as a region of the UK, with a 'governor' based in London presiding over Scotland.
The SNP are all about getting Scotland out of this 18th century nonsense of a Union, and into Europe, and the UN, as an Independent Nation.
As for the term negativity, that is synonymous with Unionist thinking, and posting, with one or two notable exceptions.
Never buy a Unionist battery, it doesn't have a positive side.
One really has to wonder what planet you operate on ?
22

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 17:43:23
21 European Scot-Good Evening ES-how are you old sport?
23

subrosa,

07/10/2008 17:45:09
# 19

Once labour voters are told Murphy's voting record at Westminster, plus the fact he destroyed the Scottishness of Scottish students, then they're furious. The Iraq war is still a great bone of contention in Scotland and anyone who voted for it is being given short shrift.

Another comment from a staunch labour voter I met today was "I wish he'd stop bragging about how he meets with Gordon Brown. I don't care. All I want is for my pension to be safe and it's not and I want to pay less for local services and he's against that." Not very encouraging ...
24

morris,

edinburgh 07/10/2008 17:54:16
It is interesting that Labour will seek to deliver 20,000 leaflets within a given time period? Meanwhile I suspect the SNP will be canvassing every single door in the constituency if the manpower evident in Glasgow East is anything to go by.
Mr Murphy said Labour would take no-one for granted.
The apppointment of Jim Murphy would suggest otherwise!
I have never failed to be impressed by Jim Murphys ability to keep a straight face when lying through his teeth.Maybe that is viewed as impressive in Labour circles?
Lets be honest here:
After Glasgow East Labour CANNOT AFFORD to take anything for granted!

Labours best bet is stick their money on the SNP and pocket some more dosh.If they win this seat when they face defeat in a General Election by a substantial margin (but Labour never admit defeat even after its happened as we witnessed numerous times of late).
I feel sorry for the Labour candidate who seems (based on first impressions) to be realitively honest! They will soon knock that out of him !He has no chance if he tells the truth!Better invent three grannies all born in Markinch, in keeping with Labour traditions.

19 Whilst it will not happen here,I suspect such an unholy pact may yet be in the pipeline. They must realise that if they lose Glenrothes then they are washed up in Scotland and the three Unionist Parties may well consider standing as such,at some future date,claiming its to "save the Union "except that since the SNP are a democratic party ,and have no intention of doing anything unless it has the clear backing of the people,there is no need to save anything,or put it another way,avoid democratic wishes any way you can get away with it for as long as you can.The alternative is the Unionists will not have any seats left,unless a PR system mysteriously is agreed (so that Westminster can keep Scotlands Oil).
25

European Scot,

07/10/2008 17:59:14
A good evening to you Geoff !

Well I'm not too bad, considering I've just received word that I've had over twenty grand wiped off the value of my pension fund since this time last year !
Still I'm sure that's as nothing compared with some.
So what's with all this let's destroy the previous idea of having individual party politics, and having everyone gang up together to form one major sized party in order to to defeat the SNP, and all in the name of ? ........... well, Unionism.
It certainly wouldn't be in the name of democracy !
Incidentally, what does the 'UK' electorate do about being run by a New Labour Party, which is currently running the show on the equivalent of 22% of the 'UK' electorate ?
Is that a, let's all gang up together, and kick them out scenario ?!
There now, I almost feel better !
Twenty grand, ouch !
26

Vote UKIP,

07/10/2008 18:28:50
UKIP for Glenrothes!
27

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 18:40:22
25 European Scot-the ganging up bit-all good clean fun or put another way, all part of growing up and being British!!! With regard to your and my pension funds unless one needs to realise these future investments it is only a paper loss-I am sure things will turn around although i do not discount the small possibility of a total,catastrophic collapse in which cause we are all on bread and dripping!
28

European Scot,

07/10/2008 18:45:18
27 Geoff

I figure we'll end up sharing that pint, literally. Two straws please !
29

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 18:48:25
Evening Morris
Also Euro Scot-wwhilst there are real factors at play-particularly the history over the last few years of too cheap money and too big loans in relation to real values, it is clear that the present burst bubble has gone too far-people are panicking to the point where they create their own worst expectations. As markets and prices are pushed up unrealistically in boom times as part of the feeding frenzy created by thinly disguised 'casinos' in the form of Stock markets etc,so they drop way too far in these big corrections. A local Afrikaans term"Alles sal regs kom"-losely translated-everything will come right.
Just sit tight.
30

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 18:49:56
28 ES-might have to take out a small mortgage to buy one!
31

European Scot,

07/10/2008 18:56:14
30 Geoff

Would this depend upon liquid assets !
32

Salem,

07/10/2008 19:14:40
Brown getting involved in the Glenrothes election campaign is good news. As is the news that Campbell and Mandelson are back on board the losing Labour party machine.

Coupled with the delay in sending McConnell to Malawi it is clear Brown is acting in desperation to save Labour who are now in full panic mode.

An SNP win in Glenrothes will change the political landscape in Scotland forever.

Leaflets won’t save Labour. They had their chance under the inept Jack McConnell and they failed to achieve anything of note that has improved the living standards of the people of Scotland.

During McConnell’s tenure education, transportation, crime, health care, in fact every sector of the economy and society in general that affects the daily lives of the Scottish people has been in a steady decline under Labour.

It is now time for change. It is now time for the SNP to be given the chance to show what they can do.
33

Geoff,

sa 07/10/2008 19:23:34
31 ES-your liquid assets are probably much diminished in this beerish market which is clearly ale-ing. You might need to up your over-Draught.
Enough now.
34

European Scot,

07/10/2008 19:28:27
33 Geoff

A regular financial punned-it !
As you say enough, goodnight !
35

Darien,

Panama 07/10/2008 19:35:46
What a simply pathetic British Nationalist article.
36

Darien,

Panama 07/10/2008 19:40:15
The article mentions 'Labour' 13 times, as if they are still some kind on dominant force in Scotland. Scotsman - NewLab are not favourite for this seat any more! What a despicable British Nationalist article.
37

Salem,

07/10/2008 20:05:02
# 36
I am surprised you are surprised regarding the thrust of the article.

The agenda of the Scotsman newspaper and those masquerading as journalists who write for the paper is a matter of common knowledge.

The Scotsman is a commentary journal expressing opinions favorable to the cause of Unionism.

At every opportunity they denigrate the cause of nationalism and the notion of Scotland as a free and independent nation state.

And that’s fine because that’s what a free press is all about.

They are not trying to deceive anyone, the only thing that matters is that readers know where they are coming from and make up their own minds.

Because their agenda is so transparent they actually help the SNP because the Scottish people hopefully know better.
38

Red Etin,

07/10/2008 21:36:33
Glenrothes will not be Labour's finest hour.
39

Ewan M,

07/10/2008 22:35:04
#36 Darien you spout the same nonsense in every post. If you were to apply your logic then there could never be a story about any political party apart from the SNP.

#37 your seriously paranoid.

Vote for anyone apart from the Salmond No Plan party.
40

argonaut,

east lothian 07/10/2008 23:26:25
I say ..let broon come up and do the rounds in glenrothes,soon enough the reality of his situation will dawn on him. He should also bring his buddies mandelson and campbell to truly portray his visions for the labour party - give the locals a real laugh !

broon loses glenrothes - labour lose general election , cameron the new PM and we all know what that means for scotland and the following referendum !! recent events prove that being a large powerful country guarantees nothing - the bigger you are the harder you fall. Id much rather be part of a compact hard working efficient reasonably self sustained country rather than the no identity over populated non sustainable monolith that is england - its time for england to once again be england - to find itself once again. the end is nigh for the union...glasgow east was first domino to fall...glenrothes next !
41

famous 15,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 23:37:02
The Scotsman try so hard to undermine the SNP but do not realise their efforts are so obvious and partisan that they are a joke which helps the SNP. The SNP stand up for Scotland and do not apply Scorched Earth tactics like Darling Brown and other Unionists. Save Scotland. Boot Labour out.
42

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 07/10/2008 23:46:57
There's no way that Macavity Bean Broon will have the courage to campaign in Glenrothes.

The locals would beast him !
43

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 08/10/2008 01:22:52
Jim Murphy another Labour yes man. Personaly i can't understand anyone voting for Labour again, er what exactly do they stand for. Gordon Brown will do anything to protect the Union, what about the people of Glenrothes,Fife,Scotland, yep their well down the pecking order. Labour self serving trough feeders
44

Vote UKIP,

08/10/2008 18:01:14
The locals of Glenrothes will welcome UKIP.

Besides, Gordon Brown is going to be too busy destroying our economy an dtelling us that he "feels our pain".

 

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