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Published Date: 11 July 2008
THE owners of one of Scotland's largest independent breweries were yesterday lambasted by health campaigners and politicians for creating Britain's most potentbeer ever – with a staggering 12 per cent alcohol content.
Earlier this year BrewDog, the award-winning microbrewery, faced being blacklisted by advertising industry watchdogs for allegedly encouraging antisocial behaviour in its marketing and promotions.

And James Watt and Martin Dickie, the two former
students who formed the company last year, have now been accused of irresponsibly promoting Tokyo, a brew with potentially "devastating" consequences for health.

Dr Bruce Ritson, the chairman of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, declared there was no place for such a high-strength beer on the market.

He said: "It is the last thing we need. It is absolutely the wrong direction to be going as far as Scotland's health problems are concerned. If it became popular it would have devastating consequences for health as well as social order and violence on the streets."

Jack Law, the chief executive of Alcohol Focus Scotland, also condemned the beer. He said: "What justification can there possibly be to bring an extra strong beer on to the market?

"Super-strength drinks are often favoured by young people and problem drinkers – is this really who the brewery wants to target?"

Dr Richard Simpson, Labour's public health spokesman, said: "Since a huge proportion of alcohol in Scotland is consumed in the form of beer, this product is hugely irresponsible."

And Jamie Stone, the Scottish Liberal Democrat public health spokesman, commented: "Focusing on it being the UK's strongest beer jars with the current campaign to tackle Scotland's stormy relationship with alcohol. We need socially responsible advertising campaigns from the alcohol industry to support Scots to change their attitude to booze."

But Mr Watt remained unrepentant about his Fraserburgh-based company's decision to brew what they are describing as an "intergalactic fantastic oak aged stout" which has been made with specialist malts, jasmine and cranberries before being aged on French toasted oak chips.

He told The Scotsman: "I completely agree with the aim to encourage responsible drinking, and that is fundamental to what we stand for. Our beers are targeted at and drunk by connoisseurs, and we strive to educate our customers that full-flavour beer can be enjoyed in moderation as opposed to heavily drinking cheaper, bland beers.

"The beers that we make are to be savoured and enjoyed. The (£4 per 330ml bottle) price takes it away from the market that are just drinking beer to get drunk. We in fact are the cure and not the problem."

The brewery has made 2,000 bottles of the initial brew.

BACKGROUND

THE Scottish Government is considering proposals to impose price rises of up to 75 per cent on some alcoholic drinks as part of plans to tackle the country's booze culture.

The proposals include setting minimum prices for drink in supermarkets and off-licences, and raising the minimum age at which they can be bought in them to 21.

A spokeswoman said: "One of Scotland's biggest challenges is alcohol misuse.

Following the consultation, the Scottish Government envisages legislating in time for many of the measures coming into force on 1 September, 2009."



The full article contains 543 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 01:13:30

" Our beers are targeted at and drunk by connoisseurs, and we strive to educate our customers that full-flavour beer can be enjoyed in moderation as opposed to heavily drinking cheaper, bland beers"

YER HAVING A LAUGH, ARE YOU NOT!,??

ITS CALLED,..'BLOWING YOU HEAD OFF'!

AND THE 'TEENS' WILL BE INTO THAT ONE!

"connoisseurs",...

MY BUTT!!
2

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 11/07/2008 01:35:20
Isn't 12% about what my box wine clocks in at? I'm sipping a tumbler of Blow yer heed off Shiraz right now.
No ill effects what so ever. Except for that wee monkey that keeps peeking round the corner at me. Hic.
3

Scullion,

Canada 11/07/2008 01:36:41
I remember trying a Scotch de Silly (Belgian) beer at 8% alcohol. That was 20 years ago and I'm still trying to get the taste out of my mouth.
I have to agree with the article, the only reason for brewing such potent muck is for people to get drunk faster. Not that that is any less of a reason to sell it (people could just down two 5% glasses) but please, spare us the disingenuous marketing tripe.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 01:43:11

Neil Waugh ~2,

Yes you are correct! wine = 12%-14% alc,

But it not full of all the gasses and chemicals to,..

..........'BLOW YOUR HEED OFF!'.........
5

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 11/07/2008 01:52:58
"The (£4 per 330ml bottle) price takes it away from the market that are just drinking beer to get drunk."

Quite. That makes it about twice as expensive per unit of alcohol as a bottle of table wine. As the makers say, only connoisseurs are likely to be drinking it at that price and a bottle is equivalent in alcohol to less than half a bottle of wine. (330ml at 12% works out as 3.96 units of alcohol, a bottle of wine is between 9 and 10.5 units))

It seems to me that part of having a responsible attitude to alcohol is being able to enjoy fine wines and specialist beers.
6

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

11/07/2008 02:25:39
I'm not so fond of stouts as I'm a fan of hoppy golden ales. Still, I'll give it a go at some point to see what it's like.

As for the whining doctor: it's time the medics realised they're employed to fix us up when we're broken. They're the car-mechanics of human biology. If they don't have real work then have them retrain to fix cars rather than perpetually moan about what us working folks do with our free time.
7

DunCraig,

Brisbane 11/07/2008 03:29:49
And these clowns complaining about 12% beer are sitting there quaffing their Chardy, at 14%! Go get a life, you whingers, and stop trying to kill other peoples' enjoyment!
8

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Thomas Laprade,

Thunder Bay, Ont. Canada 11/07/2008 05:14:35
I can see the busy-bodies are getting their ammunition together.

Remember..There is no 'safe' level of second-hand smoke.

The next saying will be,'there is no 'safe level' of alcohol
10

Thomas Laprade,

Thunder Bay, Ont. Canada 11/07/2008 05:18:06
The 'bleeding' hearts..the Scottish government are using this issue for a tax grab..a smoke' screen.
Pardon the 'pun'
11

terry osser,

morden 11/07/2008 05:49:02
there are too many people in uk with little to do but budgets to consume tell them all to fo
12

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA Obama smoke n mirrors..McCain is Bush 11/07/2008 07:03:28
What a bunch of whiners u all are.

Hey Dudes< no one makes any one drink booze.

If a dude wants to drink 12% alc./vol that's their business.

And when they fall in the gutter , its their business to sober up and get up. No help given . they help themselves.

Occasionally we drink "DogFish head Ale" @ 9% Alc/vol.
And if U need to blow off your head, drink their IPA 120 minute Ale @ 20% abv

Its brewed in Deleware. check it out on their website

www.dogfish.com/

So quit your whining, about some tweeny brew in Scotland .

Stick with what U know . making Scots Whisky.

And my friends and I will stick with the natural shrooms

GC
13

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 07:41:50

GalacticCannibal ~13,

Gosh your still alive! nice to see you about again, long time no hear!
14

Farmernot,

11/07/2008 08:02:47
Gottle o Geer.......its braw !!!!!
15

Saoghal Beag,

11/07/2008 08:09:54
optimum absorption concentraion for alcohol, ie most alcohol inot blood stream as quick as possible, is between 17 and 20%. so they should all be on the sherry if they want to blow their heads.
16

Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/07/2008 08:15:51
Never mind attacking a beer that is so niche it promises to be barely drinkable - the problem is structural in Scottish society. But just as the housing downturn is a necessary evil to allow the next generation to get a foot on the property ladder, so the coming economic downturn will restrict the capacity of the idle drunk to afford their booze. Expect the problems associated with cheap, strong alcohol to reduce in the face of economic decline.
17

Alan from Brussels,

Brussels 11/07/2008 08:51:19
As you can see from my address, I live in Belgium where we have many, many high strength beers. We regard Stella and its ilk as normal beers for refreshment, whereas when drinking Westmalle Trappiste or Duvel, both of which are around 8.5% alcohol, then its a different form of drinking altogether. The strong beers are drunk for flavour and not sloshed down like drinking pints.
18

Boy Wonder,

11/07/2008 08:55:33
I am reminded of an old TV show regarding a pint of beer ... "Get it down you lad, it'll do you good!" followed six hours later by ... "Bring it up lad, it'll do you good!"

You people just can't make your minds up whether alcohol is okay or not!
19

Liz,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 08:59:54
#18
I think I might come and join you in Belgium.
Seems like most of Europe have a far more grown up attitude to drinking and high strength beers are consumed there with no obvious problems.

I bet the stuff tastes fairly awful (compared to standard beers and other drinks) so it far more likely that the kids will stick to the buckie and cheap cider.
20

Calum Crubag,

11/07/2008 09:38:58
Nothing wrong here. If strength of a drink, irrespective of price, was what jakies wanted then we'd see the neds swigging Ardbeg and Laphroaig cask strength.

Fact is, many countries have cheaper and stronger drinks but don't have our problems. Maybe if we change our 'hardman' and 'cool to be bad' culture then we might see a difference.
21

Captainofedinburgh,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 09:41:27
No 21

Spot on mate! A beer/ale/stout such as the one in the article is not made to be gulped down as quickly as possible. And it won't be bought by people who drink beer purely to get drunk. Not at £4 a bottle! I'm somebody who enjoys a good real ale and Beglian beers and not because of their high alcohol content and the possibility of getting tanked up on them. I drink them because they taste better, have a fuller flavour and can be enjoyed over a longer period. If bams want to get tanked up on high strength beers and lagers then they'll continue to drink cheap tins of super. Not specialist beers.
22

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

11/07/2008 09:53:19
No competition for Tennants Superlager then....
23

G,

dundy 11/07/2008 10:13:58
What a fantasty world some people live in!

This stuff will sell for £ 4 for 330ml making it pretty expensive!

Is there any way the young bevvy heads will choose to buy this or buy 2-3 litres of cider or half a bottle of cheap vodka or 2lites of Buckfast???
No way - this is just the chattering class showing how out of touch they are!!!
BUT what a great free advert for the product and the company!
24

TheSmith,

11/07/2008 10:47:16
Great free publicity - many Scotsman readers are now pondering whether to crack it open at the next dinner party as a new drink 'they've' discovered. The strong alcohol percentage will be dropped into conversation, to show that they can still tank drinks like they did at uni years ago, and haven't totally turned into the suburban drones they used to despise...
where can you buy it?
25

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 10:47:43
"Dr Bruce Ritson, the chairman of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, declared there was no place for such a high-strength beer on the market."

Just who the hell does he think he is? If I want to drink high-strength beer, I will damn well drink high strength beer and I will drink as much of it as I want.

12% is pretty high but if I remember rightly, the Polish beer, Okocim is made at various strengths up to 14%. The high strength version is a bit un-balanced---you can actually taste the alcohol.

There is one thing that you can be sure of however. If you drink these high strength beers, you will at some point, need to go to the toilet. I can assure you that if Herr Ritson was around at the time, on fire, then I would ensure that I directed my urine away from him.
26

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 10:50:18
#19:

I can. It's GOOD.
27

educational snob,

edinburgh 11/07/2008 12:07:25
Very few of the "super-strength" (7.5%+ abv) beers and lagers on the market taste good, precisely because the brewers have created an imbalance between the hops and the dark malts, which give a strong acidic taste to the palate. One way to make them more palatable is by adding sugar through e.g. lemonade.

Another drink which should be included in this discussion is the average super-sterngth cider, often seen in the hands of the poorer alcoholics of Edinburgh and other cities. Lagers like 'White Diamond' are terribly acidic. One very good strong cider which goes against the norm is the brand 'K' (9% abv??), which is very smooth and golden, and is also suitably priced in the upper category.

But, with regard to the 12% beer/lager, all of this begs the question, "Why would somebody want to buy such a poor-tasting drink in the first place, if not to get drunk quickly?". And that is why I believe that respectable off-sales and pubs shouldn't even begin to think of stocking it.
28

Number 6,

Germany 11/07/2008 12:15:25
The problem is not the strength of the beer , but the immature way Brits drink alcohol. It seems for men , and sadly more and more women , think you must get blind drunk anytime alcohol is on the menu.

We have stronger beer than that in our Supermarkets,
yet not a fraction of the alcohol related problems that you find in the UK. An immature attitude towards alcohol is the problem, not the potent beers that only an idiot would drink.

Look at me Look at me.
29

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 12:49:23
If this was wine nobody would be batting an eyelid. The problem is people's attitude towards beer, not the strength.
30

Itchy,

11/07/2008 12:59:11
"Dr Bruce Ritson, the chairman of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, declared there was no place for such a high-strength beer on the market."

Funnily enough for slightly over a tenner, I can get this really great stuff at 40% alcohol and it's called 8 year old whisky.

The medical profession appears to be dominated by Fascists who think that we all have no free will.
31

Upandunder,

11/07/2008 13:01:21
The strength of the beer is largely irrelevant. It's the taste, the style and the colour.

Many teens etc drink stuff like WKD (which is around a relatively weak 5pc abv) and sweeter, stronger drinks like sweet ciders, vodka mixed with orange, cola etc.

Belgium, for example, has countless beers like Piraat, Delerium etc yet has few of the problems we have in the UK. The beers like the two I mentioned would have 90 per cent of ned-drinkers spitting out the first mouthful.

The real problem is colouring alcoholic beverages brightly and/or adding sweetener, artificial or otherwise. Hands up all those of you who've seen kids swigging bottles of premium bitter/heavy?
32

Media 1,

cape town 11/07/2008 13:26:52
The strenght of the beer is not the problem and these campaigners know it. The problem is the pathetic excuse for a society that allows itself to become so dependent on alcohol.
These campaigners should be trying to get the dole scrapped, they should be trying to ensure that local schools receive more funding and better facilities than local prisons. They should be ensuring that schols are stricter and more in control.
Alcohol can be as strong as it needs to be, but at the end of the day, the problem is not the alcohol, but rather the people who drink the alcohol.
33

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 13:45:31
#29, totally agree.

> Just who the hell does he think he is? If I want to drink high-strength beer, I will damn well drink high strength beer and I will drink as much of it as I want.<

Hear, hear. Sadly, Scottish society is becoming more and more puritanical and restrictive. I wish we could ban people like Dr Ritson!
34

peteedinburgh,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 13:48:40
The Steamboat in at Radcliffe on Soar, near Nottingham, Englandshire did a really nice brew that was 13 - 14% .

They only sold it in 1/2 or 1/3 pt glasses and even in the less aware 80s were giving big warnings about not mistaking it for the normal beers as if you could.

I'd recommend a visit

35

Paul R,

11/07/2008 13:51:09
Whisky is available at anything up at around 55% (at cask strength), why so much fuss over a beer at 12%?
36

Deamhain,

Aberdeenshire 11/07/2008 13:54:16
Folks,

The neds and ne'erdowells aren't going to be drinking much of Brew Dog's produce. It tastes too much like beer should taste for most of them. Thankfully, the cost reflects well on the standard of the product and also stops it disappearing too quickly off the shelves. At £12 per litre I don't envisage the great unwashed making a swift change from their fizzy white cider somehow.

Here's wishing continued success to a great Aberdeenshire company producing a fantastic product.
37

Ganjass,

11/07/2008 13:55:10
Charles Linskaill when is someone going to ..........'BLOW YOUR HEED OFF!'.........??

Like Alan from Brussels has pointed out, it's not the strength of the beer it's the attitude toward drinking the beer. Drinking a bottle of wine in a oner is based on a different attitude to having a bottle in a social context. Having brandy on your conrflakes is a different attitude to having a nice brandy after a sumptuous tasty meal!

By blaming the source of goodness, that can be abused, rather than those that abuse it through a bad attitude, you are displacing all responsibility from the drinker to the drink..
38

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 14:35:29
Shoundsh Niceshe Cheeerz !
39

HeckFarr,

Chattanooga 11/07/2008 15:16:02
Banning the drink is like curing dandruff by decapitation.
Responsibility lies with the individual.
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Alan R,

edinburgh 11/07/2008 15:44:01
Selling decent beer in Scotland is not normally something the Scotsman writes about alas since Allan MacLean’s day. However you’d think these nanny groups would figure out at some point that while they think they are applying pressure to small craft brewers with their incessant, infantile whinging, all they are really doing is giving the object of their objection an abundance of free publicity. But then, you’re dealing with people who wouldn’t appreciate the complexity of fine ale. I expect decent off-licence’s to now sell more BrewDog than ever before in Scotland, and a whole new wave of "unsuspecting" drinkers will be turned on to some high-quality specialty product that they might not otherwise have never tasted. Interestingly enough Safeway’s (pre-Morrison’s) sold Samichlaus (14%) which means "Santa Claus" in Swiss was which at that time was higher than any other beer in the world resulting in it being listed in the Guinness Book of Records in 1982.
Unlike Scottish ‘cooking’ lagers, (copyright Justice Secretary) Samichlaus has barley-wine-like qualities with a hint of acidity in its brandyish finish. They also sold Dogfish head stout 18+% which has more in common with a fine port than a can of cheap, mass-marketed beer. Not surprising as it is brewed with TLC. If you can find one, have one with (or as) dessert tonight and pay no attention to the killjoys!
43

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA ..McCain is a wooden Bush 11/07/2008 16:00:29


Hey U dudes U are all sounding like McCain the wooden Bush..Chill out dudes.


A man walks into a pub and asks for a pint. After drinking it, he looks in his shirt pocket and asks for another pint.

After drinking that one, he looks in his shirt pocket again and asks for another beer.

This happens about another seven times before the bartender asks him, "Why do you keep looking in your
shirt pocket?"

The man replies, "I have a picture of my wife in there.
And when she looks good enough, I'll go home."

GC
44

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA ..McCain is a wooden Bush 11/07/2008 16:08:04
Hey Dudes,

Chill out a bit more and try the Dogfish head Ale .

A young couple have been married for just over a month, and the young bride isn't getting any sex.

Every night her husband arrives home from work, then has a quick shower and heads down to the pub. Afterwards, he stumbles home completely intoxicated and unfit for any sexual activity.

On this night, though, the young bride decides to surprise her husband. When he stumbles home from the bar, his wife is seated provocatively on the sofa, wearing nothing a pair of sexy lace knickers.

The drunken husband remarks, "Let's go upstairs into the bedroom."

As the young bride runs upstairs, she says under her breath, "Yes! Finally, I'm gonna get some action!"

When she enters the bedroom, she removes her panties and sits on the edge of the bed .

The husband stumbles into the bedroom and says, "Take off your knickers and do a handstand in front of the mirror."

"Kinky," she thinks to herself, "Great!"

She proceeds to do a handstand in front of the mirror. Then, he walks over to her, parts her legs, and places his chin in her crotch...

"The guys at the bar were right," he said, "Perhaps a beard would suit me!"

GC
45

Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

11/07/2008 16:13:47
It certainly won't be a 'street alkies drink'

as an ex - alky myself I always stuck to cheap and cheerful:
Local Cider both Still and Fizzy,
Thunderbird (so easy),
Newcy Brown - That was the drink I was on when I did Santa Claus,
Special Brew - Never EVER again (the makers should be Shot for the shi-ite they put in that)!!!

and my all-time favourite as an ex is:

wait for it, wait for it . . . .

Tennant's Super!! Ta Dahhhhh!

I can still hear the ring-pull being opened and it's been 13 years since my last one . . . Texture like Syrup, Sweet almost sickly, 9% good times, good times, NOT!

BTW can anyone enlighten me as to Buckie? I have a friend who has Scottish Family near Glasgow and she says Buckie is the Bane of Scotland, tastes like shi-ite, and guaranteed to fark you!
46

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/07/2008 16:22:21
#39:

Quite correct. It's the overall quantity of alcohol that counts, not the number of pints. Anyone who doesn't believe me can try drinking a pint of scotch and see what happens to them.

I've been in pubs that serve strong beers and at very least they will advise people about the strength of the brew. In many cases, if you're already 3-sheets to the wind, they won't serve you the strong stuff in the first place.

Whereas I might get through about a gallon of Deuchars IPA during the course of a night out, I wouldn't even attempt that with something like Bishops Tipple or Old Timer. Generally a couple of glasses of strong ale is plenty. It's not a session beer like IPA and is meant to be consumed in relative moderation.
47

Tartan Buffalo,

11/07/2008 16:38:49
Gotta agree with most of you guys. I hate the facist nanny state trying to force us into doing the right thing, people will never learn individual responsibility if the choice is taken from them as a group. This country gets more like a dictatorship everyday!!!
48

Anniekat,

st andrews 11/07/2008 16:56:33
This beer certainly won't appeal to the half wits that like getting out of their skulls on alcopops and cider.

I've tried several Brewdog beers already, all of them excellent, none of them for throwing down your neck with no discrimination. I have 2 bottles of Tokyo in my bag, one for me & one for my husband, & I will totally enjoy it. Brewdog must love the free advertising by the way....
49

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

11/07/2008 17:21:32
Scotland will never get rid of this problem until we restrict the excess supply.

The problem is that if too many would-be doctors enter medical school, there's not enough work for them to do when they qualify. The surplus docs get to thinking that they can earn a tidy living as taxpayer-funded busibodies telling the hoi polloi how to live.

Either we close some medical schools now or we'll ultimately have to institute a cull just to get some peace.
50

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 11/07/2008 17:52:42
Let me be your littl dog till your big dog comes ..

(jitterbugs an throws one down the neck)
51

Benjamin,

Dresden 11/07/2008 18:42:36
What? Hasn't anyone ever had wine before? It's got about the same alcohol content as wine. I don't see a problem. Anti drinks nazzis should mind their own business!
52

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 11/07/2008 21:14:03
Probably be able to get it in a bar in Belgium for about €3 if they sell it through the European domestic market. €2-3 in Spain, anyway.

It's all down to the duty and added taxes.
53

BK,

Cyberspace 11/07/2008 22:37:16
No need to worry - whisky has over twice as much "bang per buck," so what will the jakies go for?
54

BK,

Cyberspace 11/07/2008 22:38:55
P.S. when can get 70cl bottle of 13% wine for about £3 from a supermarket, is this beer really such a problem?
55

jerrymanders,

11/07/2008 22:59:48
G&T ANYONE?
56

2dogs in D.C.,

11/07/2008 23:36:52
Welcome back,Galactic. I'm quite familiar w/Dogfish, and it ain't at all bad. There's a whole lot of other micro-brewrys out there worthy of a taste as well.
57

Benjamin,

Dresden 11/07/2008 23:50:13
BK #59 - I think that's the point a lot of people are trying to make. This strong beer is simply a taster's beer, and of course it's expensive as all get out. What the kiddos want is cheap and fast -- anything but this thick, strong tasting brew.
58

MarkR,

USA 12/07/2008 22:26:18
This isn't a story about beer, it's a story about control. Your masters need to control you lot - you can't be trusted.
59

RobBeer,

Always somewhere in the world 17/07/2008 20:34:39
This is not "Britain's most potent beer ever". The Pitfield Brewery currently produce some 14% ABV beers. Night on Mare Street has been produced for the past two years for the Pig Ear Beer Festival in London and I had a 14% cask beer from Pitfield at the Chelmsford Beer Festival just last week. Probably the strongest UK beer of recent years was a 15.2% version of Shoes Farrier Beer.

With regards to some of the comments made already:

Charles Linskaill [1], to say that "the teens will be into that one" shows you have no idea about beer. This beer is a stout and not the beer of teen drinkers. Within the takehome market, stout accounted for less than 3% of sales last year, it is not a popular style amongst drinkers of any age. Give this beer to the average chav and they would spit it out. With regard to your comment to Neil Waugh [4], you will not find any chemicals or added gas in this beer, in fact, imperial stouts tend to be quiet flat.

The Genuine Mario Antoinette [22], Orkney Skullsplitter is 8.5%.

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head [29], Okocim have never brewed a 14% ABV beer. The strongest beer they produced was the domestic version of Okocim Porter at 9.5% ABV. This was discontinued some years ago because of poor sales, it was a dark beer. Currently, the strongest Polish beers are a few 10% ABV canned lagers aiming at the Polish equivalent of the Tennent's Super/Carlsberg Special Brew market.


educational snob [31], like Charles Linskaill you do not seem to be able to distinguish between a limited run imperial stout from a mass-produced super-strength lager. How can you state that this beer is "poor-tasting" without ever having tried it?

Number 6 [32], stronger beers than 12% ABV in German supermarkets? Care to name even one? The strongest German beer is Aventinus Weizen-Eisbock at 12% ABV, and this is produced mostly for export to the USA. The only place I have ever found it on sale in Germany is at a specialist beer store. The strongest be
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RobBeer,

Always somewhere in the world 17/07/2008 20:36:47
To finish what i was saying: The strongest beers found in German supermarkets are around usually around 7%-8%. An exception would be Eku 28 at 11% that sometimes turns up in department stores.
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Cheesus,

New York 18/07/2008 01:47:17
Here in New York we have a shelf full of beers just like these at every beverage outlet. Here we have just as much of a problem with kids getting overly drunk and doing stupid things. None of them did by drinking these beers. They all drink cheap garbage. People who want to get super plastered go for quantity, not quality. And for all those using the argument that any beer over 7% tastes like rubbish has no idea what they are talking about. The best beer I've had is Samuel Adams Utopias, thats 25%. Just because you can't man up to real beer doesn't mean others should't be able to.
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C U Jimmy,

Mauchline 27/08/2008 10:02:04
Why not just put alcohol in a bottle and save all the advertising costs.

 

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