Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement


The article has been unable to display.
 
1

Colkitto,

River Clyde 23/10/2008 00:04:12
Another Labour shambles.....
2

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 00:06:50
Labour still don't look inspiring. They are making themselves look incompetent with these charades. I thought after the fiasco of Glasgow East, when their campaign fell apart, they might learn lessons from that and run a more efficient campaign this time. But their choice of Lindsay Roy was, I think, a bad one; bringing in Sarah Brown to lead the attack was also a gaffe (though the Scotsman may be too polite to say so); and Labour look like they intend to try and spin their way to election victory by stage-managing events to a ridiculous degree. Can't they see this was a media disaster?
3

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 00:14:41
#3,

oh yes they can.
4

,

23/10/2008 00:15:40
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
5

Conan the Librarian™,

23/10/2008 00:19:20
"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem."

It just gets better.

Labour in Glenrothes...
6

TheTerminator,

23/10/2008 00:26:17
This type of behaviour by Labour is a taste of Brown's Britain, is this an example of " listening to the people ?".Control freaks the lot of them. The Smoking Ban was the start and it has gone downhill since then.
7

Weegiewarbler,

Afloatinaboat 23/10/2008 00:35:31
Good grief - Armed men on the streets of Fife with orders to "Shoot To Kill" if ANYONE steps out of line.

Where will it end for the despicable anticts of the detestable Gordon Brown.

What they told us here was that if you took an innocent walkabout during a minor party political stage managed event they could care NOTHING for the fact that you'd end up dead.

This can't be MY Scotland - It shouldn't even be Baghdad for god's sake !!
8

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/10/2008 00:37:49
Seriously. I feel sorry for Sarah Brown. She has no place in politics - she is a politician's wife.

That she should have been subjected to this is disgraceful.

What kind of man would do this to the mother of his children?

The same kind of man that would humiliate the mother of my children? Or My children? Or me?
9

subrosa,

23/10/2008 00:40:25
I watched this on TV earlier and felt most embarrassed for Sarah Brown. Why did an intelligent woman allow herself to be used as political fodder like this? And her 'minders' - shouldn't they have been in school?

Pathetic, really pathetic.
10

Conan the Librarian™,

23/10/2008 00:44:34
9
Jock

"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem"

Democracy in action?
11

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/10/2008 00:45:56
Swinney, if he was to learn how to public speak without trying to be a loud orator - which he is not - and use the microphone to put his points acros, would show Broon the art of backroom politics.

You can relate that to post 9 and how not to do a Blair - especially when it is so closely related to hiding behind your wife's skirts.
12

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/10/2008 00:47:41
Conan 11, Stupidity in action in my opinion.
13

Team Scotland,

No Show, where's Punch? 23/10/2008 00:57:16

Watched it in Newsnight and it was outstanding blend of comedy and pathos.

14

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/10/2008 00:59:11
Was meinst Du, vierzehn?
15

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 23/10/2008 01:10:22
Ich hätte gern ein lõffelvol
Teelõffelvoll. Teelõfellvoll
Ych hätte gern ein lõffelvoll
Aber Mein Samen is ab.

It is with 14 anyway
16

,

23/10/2008 01:17:21
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
17

Murray in Canada,

Salt Spring Island 23/10/2008 01:19:47
18 - Was bedeutet???
18

Edward,

23/10/2008 01:49:34
Watched the spectacle on Newsnight Scotland, Labour had the cringe factor right off the scale!
The so called Door to door walk, was actually just a photo shoot for the cosen few to take pictures of Mrs Brown at one or two doors of the chosen few
The minders were really idiotic, trying to stop filming of some shots as it was eveident that it was just a stunt by Labour.
Iain Gray was interviews and tried to laugh it off
All in all very very PATHETIC!
19

Edward,

23/10/2008 01:54:05
There was actually a curious contrast shown on Newsnight Scotland as they also showed a walk about with Alex Salmond and the SNP candidate through a shopping centre in Glenrothes. In one shot Alex seemed to be in demand by some Fifers, to have their picture taken with him, lots of smiles all round.
So SNP quitehappy to be with the people, Labour keeping the people at a distance
20

Edward,

23/10/2008 01:59:26
'Then came the most extraordinary piece of control freakery of the day. "I want you guys on the green," said the man from the Labour Party. "There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem." '
Remember Fifers when the Labour party was the party of the people, by the people for the people?
Well you can forget that, as New Labour have dumped that ideal in the bin
21

Champion Haggis Slayer of Fife,

Glenrothes 23/10/2008 02:35:33
All I can say is that my fellow fifers will ensure an SNP victory.

As for the Unionists posting on this thread, you are fool hardy traitors and its people like you that have created the mess that the SNP are sorting out on a daily basis!

The results speak for themselves, the SNP have done more for Scotland in 2 years than the Labour Party have managed in 2 decades.

Thats why Labour and the Union are a spent force. Wake up, the change has begun and the people of Scotland are no longer prepared to listen to your foolishness.

Rejoice, the Republic of Scotland is approaching
22

tartangladbach,

edinburgh 23/10/2008 03:00:35
she has one thing in common with her husband, no one voted for her too!
23

D. Mclean,

Thailand 23/10/2008 04:51:38
"The Nationalists were careful not to attack Mrs Brown directly". No Need!
24

donald,

glasgow 23/10/2008 05:17:16
She looked like a prisoner being ushered out of the court.

Well, she's done Scotland. Will Wales and Northern Ireland be next?
25

Pilrig.,

Livingston 23/10/2008 05:27:19
Typical Nu Lab control freakery. NU Lab - the party of the ID card.
26

Saul Tyre,

Germany 23/10/2008 06:11:29
It seems Stephen McGinty doesn't know the one basic rule of the Scotsman newspaper:

New Labour = good, SNP = very bad

Nevertheless, a very good piece of journalism. Keep it up.
27

Guga II,

Rockall 23/10/2008 06:14:19
"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem."

I think that the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party should be reported to the police for terrorism, and threatening to shoot people. Moreover, whilst they are all being detained for 28 days without trial, their bank accounts should be frozen, and all their offices should be raided to see if they can find other terrorist material.

Incidentally Stephen McGinty, the normal word in Scotland is harled, not the very English term "pebble dashed".

28

Bibamus,

23/10/2008 06:44:41
Is Stephen McGinty any relation to Paddy McGinty - this was a another tale about a Goat
29

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 07:39:37
Pravda style reporting alive and well.
30

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 07:40:47
#27 - you`re having a laugh surely?
31

,

23/10/2008 07:44:39
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
32

Jimmy Le Pie,

23/10/2008 07:48:00
Watching Comrade Mrs Broon being rushed about by her gun totting New Labour Sleaze thugs reminded me of Mugabe on walkabout.
It also reminded me of the New Labour Sleaze party gathering a few years ago when they roughly ejected an 80 year old for daring to criticize their illegal war.

And these clowns want ID cards, 42 day detention and more surveillance!!

Time to wake up to what is really going on.
33

Dave,

Western Isles 23/10/2008 07:49:41
Well well. Even this pro-union paper was dingied by Labour.

Well Mr Scotsman owner and editor, now you can palpably feel Labours true feelings and colours, eh?

What with HBOS fiasco, meddling, fiddling and bogus donations along side this less the glorious outing by Broons wife, seems like Labour have lost the seat already. Jolly good.

VOTE ANYBODY BUT LABOUR PEOPLE!
34

Andy Mac,

Kuwait of the North 23/10/2008 08:03:24
Does anyone have a link to where I could see this? Sounds extraordinary
35

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 08:10:12
#34, Pencilsbutnotrulers

The blame surely lies with the campaign advisers who thought it would be a great wheeze to bring Mrs Brown into the campaign. They thought she performed well at the Labour conference and that she would form a similar introduction to the Prime Minister when he comes/if he comes to Glenrothes. However, the conference was stage managed and could easily be controlled. Yesterday's attempt to stage manage the Glenrothes by-election was a farce. Labour's campaign team are hopeless. It's starting to look like Glasgow East all over again.
36

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 08:11:26
A couple of weeks ago Brown exposed the government of Iceland as terrorists.

Now we have Labourite goons with guns threatening to shoot the subversive elements of the Dunfermline Free Press and the fashion editor of the Peoples’ Friend.

Apparently Mrs Brown is a “PR guru”.

Just as well then that she is not just a hapless housewife caught like a rabbit in the glare of the assembled Fife press corps.
37

Boy Wonder,

23/10/2008 08:17:49
Jeez, but she looks bedraggled in that pic. Is she doing a Cherie Blair???
38

Conan the Librarian™,

23/10/2008 08:25:51
44
Aye BW, Gordon really should comb his beard.

Or get Lord Mandy to do it.
39

roughrider,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 08:29:43
Another day another total farce by the liebour mob.
Do these thugs think that by threatening to shoot the the free press they will gain votes.
Liebour are a complete joke.
I would not be pleased if a gang of people were roaming about my area with loaded guns.
Desperate stuff ,dangerous stuff.
Dont vote labour.
40

Nevsky,

Moscow 23/10/2008 08:45:41
She looks rough 'i'm very fond of Cardenden'..aye right!
41

Lianachan,

Highlands 23/10/2008 08:49:43
"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem."

That should be the biggest story in the news this morning. Absolutely unbelievable.
42

Dave,

Western Isles 23/10/2008 09:02:17
"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem."

I agree with lianachan! What the F is going on when innocent people are thretended with MURDER in Cardenden? Eh?

This is the biggest story, bigger than that silly Rap story.

PEOPLE WERE THREATENDED WITH MURDER BY LABOUR ACTIVISTS IN A BY ELECTION SITUATION BY PEOPLE TRYING TO WIN THIER VOTE.

THREATENDED WITH MURDER BY LABOUR ACTIVISTS.
43

roughrider,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 09:02:25
Even the unionist Herald must think this pathetic stunt
was a total failure, why no video Mr editor is it too embarassing to your party of sleaze and corruption.

lol
44

SEUMAS,

fearn 23/10/2008 09:13:44
This is a fair indication of the desperation that exists in labour circles, the normally sympathetic press were snubbed which says it all about labour's organisation(or lack of it).
Roll on the election!!
45

scottish person,

paisley 23/10/2008 09:17:49
#20 & #27
Instant contradiction. You say she has a sexy voice on #27 after saying she did not say anything on #20. You are indeed an absolute waster. Stay off the boards and give decent posters a break from your rubbish.
46

Clive Hamblin,

23/10/2008 09:20:46
I'm beginningto be troubled for Scotland. On the one hand, we've controller of a bunch of thugs saying that if someone is shot for going about his lawful business (or indeed just walking along the pavement)it won't be his problem.

On the other hand we have a group who have made it quite plain that although they shout for 'Scottish Independance,' they're more interested in power,provided it's in their hands, of course!

A plague on both your houses say I!

Bleed, poor Scotland, bleed.
47

Tom R,

23/10/2008 09:21:09
I would guess this is how members of the Vichy government in France were protected-how very appropriate :-)
48

scottish person,

paisley 23/10/2008 09:21:36
Clive f##k off
49

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 09:27:03
I still can't get my head around what I saw last night! One of the most keech handed bits of bad PR ever seen! Poor Sarah Brown. She looked like a cross between Joan of Arc and Tammy Wynette, but completely vulnerable.
You can't fault her for showing qualities we'd like to see in politicians. Faith, loyalty, commitment, endurance, but who thought this was a good idea?

As for the scurrilous sociopathic Broon. Hiding behind Sarah's mumsy credentials. Put her out there on her own in a bizarre freak show, watch her bomb badly, and not be there to support her? Says everything about the man. Again, who thought this would work, and how far removed from reality are they?

Men in black coats, with guns, trying to control the streets, ordering everyone around! That's really going to connect with the voters! Just bizarre!
50

roughrider,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 09:31:15
40. Andy Mac.
Try this.

http://tiny.cc/qHzE7
51

Clive Hamblin,

23/10/2008 09:31:47
# 56 - Very adult.

Rather proves the point though, doesn't it ?

Is this the SNP (I assume) way of answering honest debate or difference of opinuion?

If that's the case and they do wrest Scotland from the Union, how will they deal with Opposition? Send a delegation to Zimbabwe, perhaps?
52

Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 23/10/2008 09:38:43
#17, was ist Teelõfellvoll, bitte?
53

Miss H,

23/10/2008 09:43:53
How utterly ridiculous. The gun comment defies belief.

Let's just hope that it was just some Labour nerd getting carried away with himself. Otherwise it's quite worrying.

I feel sorry for Sarah Brown but she should learn a lesson from this. Either get fully involved in campaigning or don't, there is no halfway.
54

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 09:44:05
Maybe it was just the camera angle, but Invincible Iain, yon Gray man, looked diminutive and cringingly embarassed, wishing he was back under his stone!
What am I saying...camera angle.....Huh!
See that's just me all over. Always try to see the best in everyone!
55

Alan B,

23/10/2008 09:44:21
That Brown thinks it is ok to humilate his wife in this way says so much about the man and his character.

I really do not understand anyone that would still vote for labour.
56

Alan B,

23/10/2008 09:45:36
Should the title of the article not be

"Labour threaten to shoot journalists".

57

roughrider,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 09:45:58
56 scottish person,paisley 23/10/2008 09:21:36
Clive f##k off.
Worth repeating.
Well said.
58

Calum10,

23/10/2008 09:47:37
What an utter disaster for Labour.

Sarah Brown, Labour's very own PR Queen, couldn't even fake a smile, and clearly like her husband can't do human.

Saying, very briefly, "Hi - goodbye" on the doorsteps conveys an uncaring, dismissive and snobbish impression to voters.

Sarah Brown was found out yesterday in Cardenden. She demonstrated that she is very much a snob who finds it beneath her to shake the hands of the common people.
59

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 23/10/2008 09:50:48
What a performance. Sarah looked glum, bedraggled and almost fearful that someone would ask her a question. She has marketing experience but was clearly somewhat upset at being asked to doorstep even nice compliant Liebore supporters.

I'm sure there have been a few arguments at home about this and the real question is where's Gordon? Hiding behind his wife's skirts like the wee feartie that he is. Sorry Gordon the ploy not only didn't work it just looked and sounded terrible.
60

james 1st,

hamilton nz 23/10/2008 09:51:08
can anyone name the person who threatrened the use of firearms, and just exactly who he was issuing the threat to.if this story is true then the labour party should withdraw their candidate from the by election;
the people of glenrothes should give their vedict by not voting labour
61

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 09:51:15
"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem." '

Sorry I missed this comment when I watched the coverage; Was this actually said?

Further does anyone know which press were originally invited?
My reason for asking is that all parties save New Labour are concerned about press bias towards Labour.
62

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 09:53:40
#66 Calum10

"Can't do human". LOL!
63

Alastair the First,

23/10/2008 09:54:58
I think the police should be asked to investigate the alleged, or should that be admitted, carrying of guns by Labour thugs.

Says it all really. A bunch of thugs and bullies led by a psychologically disturbed, repressed, retentive control freak.
64

james 1st,

hamilton nz 23/10/2008 10:00:01
#54 clive hamblin
i dont agree with those who told you to f off although i can understnd thm being upset by your rather stupid inane comment, labour have made a total hash of this event and it appears the uk econonmy.
the snp stand for an independent scotland and should this occur the other political parties north of the border will then have to become scottish oarties and work for the good of scotland and not just to curry favour from thei westminster masters.
the natioalists are currently the only scottish party
labour, liberal and conservative all owe their allegianceto the uk parties wich really are only interested in the southeast of england
65

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 23/10/2008 10:05:33
Could someone remind me what Mr Brown said just the other week at his party's conference about not using his family, it was hypocracy then, this is even worse.
66

Jung,

23/10/2008 10:08:38
No doubt Broon will follow up his wife's "successful" day out by sending in Jessie Mandelson. I wonder how a visit would go down at the Cardenden "Goth"?
67

Hey,

23/10/2008 10:11:41
#73

"Could someone remind me what Mr Brown said just the other week at his party's conference about not using his family, it was hypocracy then, this is even worse."

I think you will find he talked about not using his children - not his family.
68

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 23/10/2008 10:17:03
As everybody (almost) says on here, it was cringingly embarassing, but it's not all one-sided; I watched the SNP's Peter Grant/Alex Salmond walkabout in the Kingdom Centre on TV yesterday, and the seemingly spontaneous, unscripted, conversation between Alex Salmond and an ordinary woman out shopping with her daughter.

The woman was in fact Fife SNP councillor Carol Lindsay.

~20 & #23, for your information in particular. Jam tomorrow does not make for a stable future.
69

thistle do,

here 'n there 23/10/2008 10:19:17
Can anyone remember when this rag was a serious newspaper. More rubbish stories, innuendo, half truths and fabrication. Nothing even handed about this paper. Getting more evident as time goes by. I wonder what way its sales are going.
70

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 10:20:29
I watched this last night in a hotel bar, with a group of American men in their 50s, 60s. I was the only Scot in the bar. When they saw my animation, they asked questions. I had to explain that this was the British Prime Ministers wife, and that this election is crucial. Not just for Scotland, but for the UK constitution.

They were too polite to say much, other than how independence hadn't done their country any harm, but their disbelief at the spectacle was palpable.
71

Hey,

23/10/2008 10:28:51
#78

" I had to explain that this was the British Prime Ministers wife, and that this election is crucial. Not just for Scotland, but for the UK constitution. They were too polite to say much, other than how independence hadn't done their country any harm, but their disbelief at the spectacle was palpable."

Hmmm....not sure why a group of Americans would be so disbelieving of the Prime Minister's wife getting involved in campaigning.

Have you actually seen any of the US Presidential campaign? McCain and Obama's wives have been involved throughout - not just campaigning by their husband's sides but also on their own, and holding their own rallies etc.
72

Finnzz,

23/10/2008 10:43:35
Labour have, in the past, been outed for staging virtually all their outdoor rallies and photo shoots exclusively with party activists.
Their absolute fury on being rumbled is on record and this latest demonstration of their complete lack of public interaction is hardly suprising. This isolation by their party apparachniks is one of the reasons they have failed as a party.

It would be interesting to see if any journalists have the guts to make an official complaint to the police after being threatened by what can only be described as a bunch of terrorists.
73

TWC,

23/10/2008 10:46:10
79 Hey, You have to be New Labour
What a stuoid comparison to make.
Even us non-nats are embarrased by this mis-use of nice non political person.
Shame on them. - Vote anybody but New Labour for some Honesty
74

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 10:47:28

Try again

79 Hey,You have to be New Labour
What a stupid comparison to make.
Even us non-nats are embarassed by this mis-use of nice non political person.
Shame on them. - Vote anybody but New Labour for some Honesty
75

Thistledhu,

Fife 23/10/2008 10:47:48
i cant help think the running of this carry on was left to the local party activists.

"There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem." '

That sounds very like a shop steward/party activist issueing threats while denying responsibility a frame of mind brought about by 50 years of unchecked control and excess.

Remember the fife labour partys rage when there retireing councilers were asked to surrender there golden handshake's to address the black hole in finances they left the people of fife, pity they werent as enegetic when they were in power.
76

Lianachan,

Highlands 23/10/2008 10:50:19
#80 It would be interesting to see if any journalists have the guts to make an official complaint to the police after being threatened by what can only be described as a bunch of terrorists.

The author of the article could also report it. For that matter, so could any of us.
77

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 10:54:38
#82

"Hey,You have to be New Labour. What a stupid comparison to make. Even us non-nats are embarassed by this mis-use of nice non political person.
Shame on them"

Er...why is it a stupid comparison to make?

The US presidential candidates use their wives in campaigning, just as the Prime Minister has done.

I was merely expressing surprise that any Americans should show 'disbelief' at a politician's wife being involved in campaigning when American politicians' wives do it all the time.
78

John south of Soutra,

23/10/2008 10:54:38
Is this what this country has come to - a politician's wife being the centre of attention, gun toting goons threatening to shoot ordinary members of the public.
We are about to turn into the old Albania - Comrade Broon had the head of a one party state, complete control of the masses by ID cards, CCTV, etc if you disagree with policy then you must be guilty of a crime, the people that laid down their lives for freedom and democracy 60 years ago must be turning in their graves.
The worst thing that happened to this country was the meglomaniac who was ushered into power without any sort of mandate and who is so desperate to keep his position of control that he will resort to anything.
We used to look at the USSR, North Korea etc and say that would never happen here but it is, everyday personal freedoms are being eroded and we now we have a Mugabe style rally in Fife where the general public are kept at arms length by 6 or 7 guys with guns - this is Scotland circa 2008
79

Gordieboy,

Musselburgh 23/10/2008 11:01:48
#44 forget Cherie Blair - she looks more like Linda Blair mid-demonic possession in that terribly unflatetring photograph which acompanies the article.
80

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 11:01:56
85 Yeah1,
Are you Hey or Yeah1? did you get confused there?

Because Sarah is a quiet non political person who was obviously out of her depth.

c.f with sarah Palin with $39k of clothes for a campaign.
It was a disaster and Americans(I've lived there and worked with them for 30 years)are very charisma coscious.
81

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 11:04:09
Yeah1
and you gave the Nats an absolutely Golden opportunity which luckily they missed.
82

shivago8,

livingston 23/10/2008 11:09:15
Is Broon a man or a moose sending a woman to do a mans work,answer,he,s feart,if he does come north we will be waiting for him.
Him and new spew labour have reduced this country to a banana republic
83

mr angry,

ayrshire 23/10/2008 11:11:27
#79 You would never see the American president's wife in such a situation. They at least know how to organise events, it was like a circus event, typical Labour and explains why the country is such a mess, they run it the same way as they organise events like this. Labour is full of ars* licking sychophants rather than talented people up to the job.
84

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 11:18:41
#79 Hey

I think they were underwhelmed by the whole shambolic spectacle, and lack of orchestration. I mean it wasn't very dignified, was it?
Also to put a vulnerable nobody out there on their own, in such a potentially crucial deal breaker, is either madness or cowardice, or both! I mean, would you do such a thing in business? Which is usually how Americans judge their politicians.

When American politicians wheel out their spouses, it's usually rehearsed, polished, stage managed unity. Not frumping around the harled streets of Glenrothes, on their own!
85

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 23/10/2008 11:36:53
25 champion

On Newsnight Scotland last night, it was claimed that the increase in the cost of care for the elderly was causing much anger on the doorsteps of Glenrothes.

Is there any truth in that or is it just spin?
86

Thistledhu,

23/10/2008 11:37:57
I doubt the met police will be pleased with some labour party numpty shouting out the size of Mrs browns protection team not very clever was it.
87

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 23/10/2008 11:39:36
40 andy

Go to BBC Scotland and go to Newsnight Scotland link at bottom right of page.
88

57vintage,

23/10/2008 11:41:31
#25 "the Republic of Scotland"

With the Queen as Head of State of course as Salmond backtracks on an SNP core value of republicanism...

This is a non-story and I feel sorry for Mrs Broon, an intelligent and articulate woman being made to play the part of doting wife by Labour gypes with clipboards.

I hope they both lose, as Bill Shankley once said.
89

John S,

23/10/2008 11:48:50
The press officer insisted that we must keep well back. “This isn’t what I say,” he said. “This is what the seven men with guns who protect her say.”
The Times October 23, 2008
90

brownlie,

23/10/2008 11:52:47
85 Yeah 1

Hey, you've been caught out, yeah?? Shades of Highland Mighty/British Bride! lol!
91

Snowy Bottles,

23/10/2008 12:07:26
95 connaughtboy,stonehaven

40 Andy Mac,Kuwait of the North

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7682300.stm
92

CLX,

Up North 23/10/2008 12:08:34
The real question is, when will Broon roll out the kids...Hen, Horace, Daphne etc..and don't forget Granpa...
93

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 12:17:52
#98

"Hey, you've been caught out, yeah?? Shades of Highland Mighty/British Bride! lol!"

How exactly have I been 'caught out'? I was merely expressing surprise that Americans were in 'disbelief' that a politician's wife should be campaigning, when American politicians' wives do it all the time.

I was not condoning the use of the PM's wife and I never attempted to suggest that Sarah Brown's campaigning was in any way a well organised or managed event.

Let's face it, all the political parties have stage-managed campaign events - Salmond meeting an 'ordinary' member of the public who is actually an SNP councillor is another example of this.
94

Matt there,

Somewhere 23/10/2008 12:19:20
So... let's get this straight, yes?

An official Labour Party spokesman threatened to have accredited members of the press (including, I have no doubt, NUJ trade unionists) shot by: "sixir seven guys with guns."

What a truly weird way to run an election campaign.

And why would the wife of the prime mnisiter require the protection of six or seven armed men?

Anyone in Labour care to explain all this, please?
95

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 12:19:29
#100

"The real question is, when will Broon roll out the kids...Hen, Horace, Daphne etc..and don't forget Granpa..."

Well he said at the labour conference that he wouldn't be using his kids in that way, so presumably he won't be 'rolling them out'.
96

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 12:23:06
#103

"An official Labour Party spokesman threatened to have accredited members of the press shot"

Actually according to the article he said "there will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You MAY be shot."

That doesn't really seem like 'threatening' to shoot them does it? It sounds more like warning them they MAY be shot if they don't back away.

"And why would the wife of the prime mnisiter require the protection of six or seven armed men?"

Presumably exactly because she is the wife of the PM. In these times of heigtened security and terrorist threats I assume the PM's wife needs to be protected from possible kidnap/assassination attempts.
97

CLX,

Up North 23/10/2008 12:24:36
#104,
So, it'll just be Ma, Pa and Granpa then.... :))
98

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 12:27:54
Yeah1 in #85
You quoted Hey's comment in the 1st person showing you were the same person
99

brownlie,

23/10/2008 12:33:34
102 Yeah

You've been caught out in that you posted as Hey at 79 and then replied to a poster at 85 as Yeah 1.

I'm surprised that you did not post congratulations from Yeah 1 to Hey on an excellent posting.

Why do you feel the need to post under two monikers? Perhaps you should look for a third(?) option.

You may recall that, in a similar fashion, Highland Mighty posted that he only posted as British Pride.
100

Andrew Buchan,

Kincardineshire 23/10/2008 12:35:55
What a disaster!

At least try not to look like you're scared of catching something from the locals.

Maybe whoever dreamed up the idea that she visit will be shot instead.

101

brownlie,

23/10/2008 12:37:16
Off topic:

A Labour MP, obviously with Osborne in mind, has asked in the commons whether it is illegal to receive or solicit donations from a foreign source.

I wonder what Wendy, and those who exonerated her, will think of that?
102

Sunrise,

Glenrothes Fife 23/10/2008 12:37:52
I understand the Sarah is a cleaver and articulate women. But that she was not allowed to talk to the press under orders from Downing Street.

The fact that she never answered any questions even though she was well capable doing so showed labour and her husband in a very bad light. A missed opportunity and incompetence of a high degree!

Her task was to go to Fife and get a few Pictures for distribution to the Newspapers and no doubt have some good words added by the Labour Spin Machine. These same pictures and good words would also appear in campaign literature. In essence she was tasked by her husband to be a prop for the labour Party.

Gordon, what of your claim that “my family are people not props”?

Shame on you
103

usvisitor,

Erie, PA, USA 23/10/2008 12:38:23
We'll trade her for Palin.
104

Jimmy Le Pie,

23/10/2008 12:41:45
Thank God for the internet!

All these magic moments like Wendy's "Bring it On", Iain Grey reduced to a stuttering imbecile on Newsnicht, the New Labour Sleaze gunmen threatening journos on the streets of Fife, Comrade Broon's "I've done away with boom and bust" are saved for posterity on my (and many others) computers. If it wasn't for the internet, the BBC and all the other Unionist media would not doubt have 'lost' all this valuable stuff.
105

Calum10,

23/10/2008 12:49:15
Sarah Palin v Sarah Brown

Pitbull v Mouse

Baked Alaska v Cucumber Sandwich

Killer Clothes v Matalan £5 bargains.

There are no comparisons.
106

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 12:50:20
#108

"You've been caught out in that you posted as Hey at 79 and then replied to a poster at 85 as Yeah 1. I'm surprised that you did not post congratulations from Yeah 1 to Hey on an excellent posting. Why do you feel the need to post under two monikers?"

I never pretended to not be the same person. I made quite clear that I was both Yeah and Hey.

I logged out after my first post and then I had to log back in later and logged in as 'yeah'.
107

Jimmy Le Pie,

23/10/2008 12:50:27
#79 Hey,/#85 Yeah1,

Congratulations, you now join the hallowed ranks of proven buffoons Highland Mighty/British Pride as multi-monikers who were too stupid to carry it off!

You're not Highland Mighty/British Pride as well are you?

108

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 12:52:29
#111

"Gordon, what of your claim that “my family are people not props”?"

As has been already pointed out in previous posts Gordon Brown actually said that about his CHILDREN not his FAMILY.

Get your facts right before you start criticising people.
109

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 12:54:09
#116

"Congratulations, you now join the hallowed ranks of proven buffoons Highland Mighty/British Pride as multi-monikers who were too stupid to carry it off!"

As I have already pointed out I never pretended to be 2 different people - I quite clearly showed that I was the same person in my #85 post replying to #82.
110

Davie08,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 12:58:35
Yeah1 in hole stop digging.
111

Jimmy Le Pie,

23/10/2008 13:01:38
For anyone who missed British Pride/Highland Mighty's gaff, here it is.

British Pride,

11/04/2008 18:16:47

553. Whoa! Great! Such typical SNP incite. Fantastic! I only post as Highland Mighty, can you say the same you cyber-nay???
112

Lianachan,

Highlands 23/10/2008 13:05:25
All of this exposure of psychophrenic poltroons is all very amusing, but it's deflecting attention away from what really ought to be scaring the bejeezus out of everybody - even Labour apologists and lackeys:

As Dave said at #50:
"PEOPLE WERE THREATENDED WITH MURDER BY LABOUR ACTIVISTS IN A BY ELECTION SITUATION BY PEOPLE TRYING TO WIN THIER VOTE.

THREATENDED WITH MURDER BY LABOUR ACTIVISTS"
113

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 13:15:26
Hey! Yeah1.

What Policies for Scotland do you support, I want Fiscal Independence but I'll vote SNP if I don't get that.
114

Linda,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 13:49:15
Latest YouGov poll of marginal seats in Scotland for Channel 4 last night showed

SNP 37%, Labour 32%, Tory 26% and Lib Dems 6%
115

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 13:58:20
The fact is that Sarah Brown was appearing in public, on a street with no closure order.

I'd be interested to know what the legal implications are with Labour goons, threatening people with possible violence, trying to shut down/forcibly block cameras on a public street, attempting to herd and exclude people from going about their legal business.

What powers were invoked to allow this behaviour? It all looked more North Korea than Cardenden.
116

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 13:58:50
#121

"PEOPLE WERE THREATENDED WITH MURDER BY LABOUR ACTIVISTS IN A BY ELECTION SITUATION BY PEOPLE TRYING TO WIN THIER VOTE."

Perhaps you should calm down a bit. I hardly think saying 'There will be six or seven guys with guns who will keep you away from her. You may be shot and then it won't be my problem' is threatening anyone with murder, do you?

It is saying you MAY be shot if you don't back away.
117

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 14:00:16
#123

"Latest YouGov poll of marginal seats in Scotland for Channel 4 last night showed"

Linda - I would be more interested in the latest poll for the Glenrothes by-election. Perhaps you could provide us with those figures?
118

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 14:09:45
Should I give up on you Hey! Yeah! or are you going to tell us what Policies you support?
I need to leave soon
119

Davie08,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 14:20:27
#127 twc I would if I were you I think you are on a hiding to nothing with yeah1 but you have made your point.
120

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 14:28:42
Well as an old Labour man, though it hurts a wee bit, here's something I saw elsewhere to satisfy Hey! Yeah1's request

"I see that the Central Fife Times has a poll which shows party support in the Glenrothes by-election as:


Which party would you like to see win the Glenrothes by-election?

Scottish National Party 77.6%
Labour Party 11.5%
Liberal Democrat Party 5.5%
Conservative Party 2.4%
Scottish Socialist Party 0.3%
UK Independence Party 0.9%
Solidarity 0.6%
Scottish Senior Citizens Unity Party 1.2%"

Sad Days I'll tell you
121

,

23/10/2008 14:33:07
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
122

Stuntman Mike,

23/10/2008 14:42:11
#129 TWC: the question "which party would you like to win" is meaningless and unhelpful: it invites respondents to take a light hearted swipe at the incumbent party and register a protest, even if they would vote for that very party after examining the various rival manifestos.

In fact, the question is about as meaningless as the Nationalists' proposed referendum question (about "opening negotiations etc"), couched as it is in legalese for legal reasons. If someone cares to post a legitimate poll relating to Glenrothes, I shall take notice, but the poll of the Central Fife Times is a classic space filler designed to attract a headline.
123

madabbot,

far away 23/10/2008 14:43:37
perhaps someone form the circus in Glenrothes can explain why anyone with 18,000 need to pay more than 700 quid a week for car in a Sub standard Fife council home whenthey can get the same care in a Private hoem for onl;y 420 pounds a week who is taking all the cash ?? where is it going comrade........
124

TWC,

Arshire 23/10/2008 14:50:36
131 Stuntman Mike,
They could just use the same question that was used for the Norwegian referendum(translated int English unless We douglas is running it)
That has been tried before.
On the Glenrothes thing if you have better to offer cough up
125

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 14:57:13
#127

"Should I give up on you Hey! Yeah! or are you going to tell us what Policies you support?
I need to leave soon"

Why are you so desperate to find out what policies I support? It is irrelevant to this article and irrelevant to the points I have made, so I'm not sure why you want to know?
126

,

23/10/2008 14:59:22
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
127

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 15:02:46
Well since no one has provided a real poll for the by-election (No TWC the 'poll' in the Central Fife Times is not a real poll) I have had to look for one myself.

The latest poll I could find lists the 2 main parties as both being on 43% of the vote - so looks like the by-election will be a very tight one.
128

The Master,

23/10/2008 15:11:26
This is what really puts many off politics: the Nationalists spent their whole time criticising Brown for staying away from Glasgow East but, now that the busy PM has sent his wife to Glenrothes, he gets yet more flak from the narrow minded hypocrites on this board.

Sarah Brown is in no way a politician, so it's completely unfair for her to be expected to answer questions from journalists who are just waiting to draw her on in the hope that she'll say something out of turn. Also, she happens to be the PM's wife, hence the security, but the ignorant posters on here of course use this to ridicule the fact that the minders were doing their job.

Enough of the mock indignation of the Nationalists already! The ridiculing of poor Sarah on here only shows how much this byelection has got them rattled. In the current economic climate, Supernat's extolling of the virtues of his separation policy is looking increasingly delusional.
129

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 15:17:50
Yeah1 I have only ever heard you attack SNP that is ok if you also have some opinions or policies. You have not said what you support only that you don't agree with SNP.
This is mothing sinsiter and solvesd with aquick couple of lines -- Lets us judge if you are sincere are just a Sh** stirrer and believe me there are plenty (All Shades)
130

brownlie,

23/10/2008 15:20:07
125 Yeah1

Are you seriously suggesting that the police have a right to shoot individuals who do not back away from Mrs Brown?

I was always under the impression that the police could only shoot if someone's life was in danger. I hardly think obstructing or crowding Mrs Brown falls into that category. Do you?
131

kimba,

23/10/2008 15:21:00
Have salmond's minders told him not to mention independence,or is he his own minder,being the big man in the party that he is LMAO.

We all know why he's been going on about heating bills rather than seperation,the voter's aren't as stupid as he evidently thinks and as he's going to find out to his cost,mark my words.
132

brownlie,

23/10/2008 15:26:14
140 kimba

Spot on - as usual. Salmond is not the leader of the party committed to independence.
133

Queen D,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 15:36:18
The Scottish National Party is the party for independence ,it therefore does not need to tell the public every five minutes what it stands for.
Every dog and its auntie kens fine!

As for trying to minimise the threat to journalists made by Mrs Browns minders, sorry it won't wash emphasising they MAY get shot.

It really was a THREAT.

Oh just think who they could have popped off their perch yesterday! Newsnight Scotland would never have been the same!
134

roughrider,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 15:42:01
The unionists on here are a joke nowt to offer but bad mouth people . Just like the liebour party.
Pathetic.
135

kimba,

23/10/2008 15:48:17
141.bet salmond wishes in his heart of hearts that he could lead the party without being lumbered with the seperation policy,probably thinks he's be unstopable without it.

Bet he secretly wants to become a devolution max party,just like the welsh nat's. Btw,we all know that swinney secretly prefers devolution max (so do I,tastes better than diet)
136

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 15:57:21
#142

"As for trying to minimise the threat to journalists made by Mrs Browns minders, sorry it won't wash emphasising they MAY get shot. It really was a THREAT."

So you were there? You heard the tone of voice in which the person said it? You could tell it was a threat? You know that even though the person actually said 'you may get shot' what he meant was a threat along the lines of 'you are going to be shot'?
137

,

23/10/2008 15:57:35
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
138

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 15:59:43
#139

"Are you seriously suggesting that the police have a right to shoot individuals who do not back away from Mrs Brown?"

No of course I'm not suggesting that. I'm merely pointing out that some people on these forum are getting a bit carried away with their statements that 'people were threatened with murder' when what he actually said was 'you may get shot'.
139

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 16:02:12
#138

"Yeah1 I have only ever heard you attack SNP that is ok if you also have some opinions or policies. You have not said what you support only that you don't agree with SNP."

Where exactly have I attacked the SNP or said that I don't agree with them?

All I have done is expressed surprise that Americans were in 'disbelief' at a politicians' wife campaigning, and tried to calm people down who are getting a little excited with their talk of 'murders' and 'threats'.

I have not even mentioned the SNP.
140

TWC,

Ayrshire 23/10/2008 16:16:24
Yeah1 Conceded you never mentioned SNP save the ref to the Councillor but the impression given was that you were only attacking SNP posters hence my attempt to get you to take a position.
The Non Nats on these pages are of 2 types those who have an arguement and those who just bad mouth I was trying to find out which you were.
It's the same wit SNP but they need to sort their own out
141

brownlie,

23/10/2008 16:31:05
147 Yeah1

Sorry to come back to the subject but you will note from the article and a similar one in the Times that it was not the police that warned that people may get shot but a member of the Labour Party "guards". On whose authority was he acting?
142

Ananurhing,

23/10/2008 16:35:34
#148 Hey/Yeah1
"All I have done is expressed surprise that Americans were in 'disbelief' at a politicians' wife campaigning"

I think we've already covered your mistake there. Why do you keep repeating it? To misconstrue something once is understandable. To keep doing so after clarification becomes a bit suspect.
143

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 16:53:40
#149

"Yeah1 Conceded you never mentioned SNP save the ref to the Councillor but the impression given was that you were only attacking SNP posters hence my attempt to get you to take a position."

Apologies if I gave you that impression. I wasn't intentionally attacking 'SNP' posters - I was attacking these people who seem to be going slightly overboard with their talk of murders and threats - they are not necessarily SNP posters anyway.
144

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 16:55:17
#151

"I think we've already covered your mistake there. Why do you keep repeating it?"

If you had read my post you would know why I repeated it - I was accused of 'attacking' the SNP whereas I have not attacked them in the slightest and was therefore pointing out what I had said in this forum to prove it.
145

Yeah1,

23/10/2008 16:59:07
#150

"Sorry to come back to the subject but you will note from the article and a similar one in the Times that it was not the police that warned that people may get shot but a member of the Labour Party "guards". On whose authority was he acting?"

I don't think he was acting on anyone's authority. From what the article says I would assume he was warning the journalists that the PM's wife was surrounded by 'secret service' people with guns and that they 'may' get shot if they don't back off.

I am not condoning his words or actions - I am merely trying to point out to the people on this forum who are talking about 'threats to murder' that they are perhaps being a little bit silly, when all he said was 'you may get shot'.
146

A Better Way,

Scottish Republic 23/10/2008 17:23:28
Clive Hamblin,

Yes the New Labour Party tried to do their standover tactics, to the media here in Scotland. Its something that we Scots are used to. The BBC is as biased against the SNP as anyone can be. You need to watch a bit more of it and if you are a decent man with an open mind, which I have no reason to doubt. I suspect if you knew how bad it is for Scottish People, not being given a fair deal in what was meant to be a democratic nation.

I really do not know what your knowledge is of the SNP, but believe me its not about power as you described.

The SNP is a law abiding follower of the democratic process. The SNP comprises of a wide rainbow of Scottish political beliefs who have come together to work towards the democratic reinstatement of an Independent Scotland, run by Scots for Scots.

The SNP is committed to disolve after it secures our withdrawl from the Act of Union 1707. Party members and other Scots will then form their own political parties dedicated to the welfare of the Scottish People under the Scottish Constitution.

The Scottish Constitution nominates the Scottish People as the Sovereign Power of Scotland and that any government is subject to the will of the people. The Scotish Legal system is also a committed servant TO the People and as such uphold the Constitutional Power of the People.

If you would care to look at Irelands Vote on the EU Constitution, where the Irish Government had to stand by the Peoples Decision, it will give you a very good idea on how an independant Scotland would safeguard all Scots from Governments like Gordon Browns, who do whatever they like, when they like.

Our Constitution was based on the treaty of Arbroath, and clearly states that the Scottish People are the Sovereign Power. That means of course that if we had a failed Prime Minster like Brown, who had a cabinet full of vegtables, the Scottish People could remove him from office. The US Constitution copied many of the ideas from the Scottish Co
147

A Better Way,

Scottish Republic 23/10/2008 17:26:31
Continued

Our Constitution was based on the treaty of Arbroath, and clearly states that the Scottish People are the Sovereign Power. That means of course that if we had a failed Prime Minster like Brown, who had a cabinet full of vegtables, the Scottish People could remove him from office. The US Constitution copied many of the ideas from the Scottish Constitution and it is the basis of most democratic countries in the modern world.

The UK system is as you probably know based on a Monarchy. Through the years it was modified until it reached the state that it is now. There is in fact no UK Constitution. There is no authority for the People. Politicians are only responsable to a house of Lords that is flooded by appointees by the Government of the day. It is hardly a true democratic process, and as we have seen by Browns ascension to the throne, unelected by the people, is open to a dictatorship, similar to the German Nazi Parties takeover of Germany in the thirties. That is exactly correct if you watched Brown totally ignore the manifesto commitment of the New Labour Party at the previous election, by sneeking over to Brussels and signing a Constituton that was never agreed in a democratic way.

Now dont get me wrong, you probably have read the Spin in the UK Establishment that say absolute nonsense about the SNP. I certainly hope that your accusation of the SNP only seeking POWER, is shown to be wrong. I would never try to influence your belief for or against the Union. That sir is your choice. The most ardent SNP supporter does not hate in anyway the ordinary English Person. We have 6000 a year coming to Scotland to live, and they are quite welcome, providing they support the Scottish State.

Just consider this one point. Under a Scottish Constitution any Government would have to consult the People before they committed to a war in Iraq, or any where else. Consider how many Lifes would have been saved just because of our Constitution.

The Westminster G
148

A Better Way,

Scottish Republic 23/10/2008 17:28:04
Continued

The Westminster Government doesnt just want us for our fishng grounds or because they need Scottish Oil Money. No its bigger than any of that. They couldnt have a former one of the three Nations running their Nation in such a way that it empowers the people. The English and Welsh Nations would be screaming for the exact same rights. The Civil Service beaurocrats would never allow that. England would no longer be servants to the Government. The position would be completely reversed for the good.

Yes the Scottish People want power, but the power is for every Scot no matter what their beliefs,colour,gender etc. That is why we will never give up until we win.

All the Best Mate.

Saor Alba
149

Rami,

Derry, New Hampshire U.S. 23/10/2008 17:51:28
Hello all you Scot's accross the pond:-) What power
exactly do you mean; let's say that your citizens need?
Also, if you get this power that you all crave, what
exactly will an individual citizen do with it or can
do with it, whatever this "Great Power" is that you
all seek? Do you desire to divide Scotland into two
seperate states; something like Ireland? Protestants
to the North and Catholic's to the South? Or, an
Independent Country with a new name, "Scotlands":-)
150

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 18:03:51
It seems that it is possible for the people of Glenrothes to approach Scotland’s First Minister uninvited, and have their photograph taken shaking his hand.

Whereas had any of these voters attempted to approach Labour’s “personality of the day” in the same manner, these same voters would have been threatened with being “shot”.

Go on Labourtories, tell us why you are prepared to shoot housewives from Markinch?
151

,

23/10/2008 18:04:17
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
152

Nikostratos,

23/10/2008 18:11:06
http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2008/10/23/will-gord-be-able-to-shrug-off-a-glenrothes-set-back-2/


I find this contest a very difficult one to call. What we need is another poll and there hasn’t been one since the Brown transformation and the switch in the media narrative.

One thing I’m convinced of is that a Labour defeat will have nothing like the impact that was the suggested only a few weeks ago.

The media has decided that the current big political story is of the dramatic comeback of “the man who saved the world financial system” and nothing - not even polls or by election defeats - are going to change that perception.

So a Labour hold in this seat will be proclaimed as confirming the media narrative - a Labour defeat for the large part will be dismissed as not being very important.

This is tough for the opposition parties but then Labour had a tough year when the narrative was against them. These things do switch but my guess is that the Brown second honeymoon could last all the way until next June’s local and Euro elections.

Mike Smithson
153

Nikostratos,

23/10/2008 18:12:14

Gordon Brown 'has been told Labour will win Glenrothes byelection'
Comments (2)

I was surprised by this too. The Glenrothes byelection takes place a fortnight today and, reading around for an update of what's going on, I found this claim buried in a BBC website report from last week.

The BBC has learned that Gordon Brown has been told that Labour will win the Glenrothes byelection.

The BBC understands that campaign strategists - who just three weeks ago were warning the prime minister that Labour would lose - have now told him that the tide has turned in the constituency, partly the result of Mr Brown's handling of the banking crisis.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2008/oct/23/glenrothes-gordonbrown


The Scottish Labour party told me today that, although the party thinks it's making progress, the idea that Brown has been told victory is in the bag is "utterly not correct". An official said:

People are getting carried away. We feel we are doing better than we were and we think we have caught up significantly but we still think the SNP are ahead.
154

Nikostratos,

23/10/2008 18:12:45
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2008/oct/23/glenrothes-gordonbrown
155

Miss H,

23/10/2008 20:25:02
162 I think it is on a knife edge and will be a low turnout. As in Glasgow East it will come down to who has the most identified support and who can get them out.

Obvioulsy having men with guns stoating about Cardenden is not going to help Labour. Journalists are not the most popular form of life but even so they don't deserve to be threatened. I have been at many a by-election and never come across anything even remotely like that.
156

roughrider,

Glasgow 23/10/2008 20:32:33
Here is a poll from Glenrothes.

http://tiny.cc/T0OuB
157

cabrach loon,

inverness 23/10/2008 21:45:47
what please was the cost of the security and anti terror actions by the Nulabour SS troopers with Mrs Broon?

Not far off from Stalin's soviet empire is it? Well Broon seems to have a secret commie agenda anyhow!
158

Conan the Librarian™,

23/10/2008 22:58:44
158
Rami
The UK as it exists, has it's power base around London.

The Government of the UK, HAS to make the people of the SE England happy...

...so they vote for them...

...us SNP types want a government which makes the people of Scotland happy.

Do you understand now?
159

Clive Hamblin,

23/10/2008 23:08:49
A Better Way: 155/6/7

Thank you for taking the trouble to explain your position. I regret that it has taken me so long to respond; I have been away from home

Whilst I appreciate your argument; I suggest that your position is weakened by #s 56 & 65 who appear to think that mere abuse is is honest debate.

Whilst you have given me thoughts to ponder, I ask you too, to look again at some of the remarks and actions made by those I mentioned which caused me to make my initial remarks.

Once again, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

I hope to have the pleasure of meeting you on these boards again.

Regards,

CH




160

Christina, Aberdeen,

24/10/2008 01:48:14
You just couldn't make it up.

I can't imagine Labour have made many friends in the press with their Brown Shirts threatening to shoot journalists.

How (not) to make friends and influence people!

161

Christina, Aberdeen,

24/10/2008 01:56:43
I really can't understand why Labour's reaction to people who they disagree with seems to be abuse or threats of violence

Labour seems to be like a wounded animal who knows that it is going to die - extremely dangerous.
162

donald,

glasgow 24/10/2008 07:05:54
Why didn't the court ushers put a coat ower her heid?
163

Tim C,

Southern England 24/10/2008 16:42:06
Six OR seven GUYS with guns? Make your mind up.Sounds like someone was co-opted from the Office for National Statistics. And why no armed female protection officer for Mrs Brown? Bit embarrassing if she has to answer a call of nature.
But turkeys don´t vote for Christmas, so labur will scrape home with a reduced majority.
164

Zordana,

Bucks 25/10/2008 02:11:37
Sorry, but when did we elect her and why would we listen to anything she has to say, hasn't her busband done enough damage to this country? She might be able to live with a traitor but we don't have to listen to her.
165

Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 25/10/2008 02:29:30
During her 30-minute walkabout....I've just read 20minutes in another Scotsman article, but that aside, I hardly think the 'benefits?' of Mrs Brown's walkabout in a 'tame' Labour Street is going to race through the constituency with the speed of a California blaze.

Nor will Gordon's chat on Saturday to a carefully chosen small audience.

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
RSS Feed of this article's comments
Delivery formats: RSS, Atom, Javascript & Email
 
  

 
 

More Scotland

More Scotland >>

More Glenrothes by-election

More Glenrothes by-election >>

Features

Paperboy Paperboy Customised news
Scottish Business Briefing Scottish Business Briefing ...Sign up today
Scotsman Hotels Scotsman Hotels

Featured Advertising



Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.