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Published Date: 14 December 2008
By Sam Reeves
SCOTTISH and international organisations have given strong backing to creating a separate internet domain name north of the border. Two Government surveys showed support among Scots organisations running at 58% and in an international poll the figure rose to 82%.
Ministers aim to create a Scottish web domain – current suggestions are '.scot' and '.sco' – and have set up a working group. The group is making preparations to bid for a new domain in 2009, when the body responsible for the domain name system will invite applications for new ones.

First Minister Alex Salmond set off on a trip to the Spanish region of Catalonia yesterday, during which he will hear about the success of the area's domain name, '.cat'. It has attracted 30,000 registrations in the past two years.

Speaking ahead of his visit, Salmond said: "The time is ripe for the worldwide family of Scots to have their own domain reflecting an online community defined by a shared commitment to Scottish identity, culture and economic promotion.

"It is not only for Scots who live in Scotland but for our extensive diaspora."





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  • Last Updated: 13 December 2008 9:51 PM
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1

AM2,

Scotland,UK 13/12/2008 22:52:21
More "pretendypendence" nonsense from the increasingly irrelevant SNP.

All to get www.scotland.gov.uk changed to something without the .uk.

Just pathetic!
2

Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

13/12/2008 23:35:08
"First Minister Alex Salmond set off on a trip to the Spanish region of Catalonia yesterday, during which he will hear about the success of the area's domain name, '.cat'. It has attracted 30,000 registrations in the past two years."

WHAT??

So Salmond is swanning off to Spain on a jolly to hear about the success of an internet domain name?

What can he possibly learn on the trip that he could not by picking up the phone or going on the internet?

Catalonia got a new area domain name and there has been 30,000 registrations in the past two years.

What more is there to know?

A further waste of tax payers money.
3

Selgovae,

14/12/2008 00:11:37
#1 "Just pathetic!"

Why? I'd seriously think about using a .sco domain for my business. I certainly welcome the option.

#2

If you read the article, you'll see the words "during which". They may not mean what you think they do.
4

Jimmy Le Pie,

14/12/2008 00:21:00
Excellent idea.

I can't wait to get rid of .uk
5

Jimmy Le Pie,

14/12/2008 00:22:41
In fact the demise of the UK can't come quick enough for me!!
6

Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

14/12/2008 00:26:49
I am sure that is true Jimmy.

Just a shame you will never see it happen.
7

Jimmy Le Pie,

14/12/2008 00:32:29
#6 Rufus

I will you know!!

#1 Will there be a .ni for Ireland??

or do they have their own already??

8

Sam the man the snp Fear most,

Glenrothes! Glenrothes! Glenrothes! 14/12/2008 00:34:31
5#

Jimmy Fat Pie.lol.

Dream on it will never happen, the Union is forever, the people of Glenrothes did not just speak for Glenrothes but for all in this part of the UK and said a clear NO to the snp, Scotland is part of the UK, get used to it or go elsewhere.

Let us all say the magic words the snp hate- Glenrothes! Glenrothes! Glenrothes!

P.S I hear that the snp membership is falling fast and that alot of the activists have left the snp, i see also alot of the mouthpieces from the snp stable never returned to the threads after Glenrothes or changed their user names, it was priceless reading the arrogance of some of them especially after the doing Labour gave them and as I predicted to the vote.

BIG SMILE.
9

Jimmy Le Pie,

14/12/2008 00:39:24
#8

I'm still here, still a member of the SNP and always will be.

I changed my user name after my old one, Jimmy The Pie, was outlawed on these threads, after I upset a certain Irish poster on hear by disagreeing with his bigotted points of view!
10

Tracker,

Highlands 14/12/2008 00:40:44
This sort of nonsense should not be pursued by the First Minister - it is harmful to his serious political image.
11

Conan the Librarian™,

14/12/2008 00:54:19
8
Good Morning Sam.

I take it you are a refugee from the Herald?

Why is that? Are they not Unionist enough for you?
12

Castaway™ ,

14/12/2008 01:15:04
#8 - P.S.The Labour Party membership IS falling fast.
UK
1997 Labour's membership 405,000
2002 Labour's membership 280,000
2005 Labour's membership 198,026
2007 Labour's membership 176,891
2008 (Jun) Labour's membership 158,868
Scotland
1997 - Scottish Labour Party membership 30,083
1999 - Scottish Labour Party membership 27,417
2003 - Scottish Labour Party membership 22,153
2004 - Scottish Labour Party membership 19,061
2005 - Scottish Labour Party membership 18,409
2007 - Scottish Labour Party membership 17,000

BIG SMILE
13

Edward,

14/12/2008 01:57:44
#1 & #2 Just pathetic little creeps, perhaps even the same person.

Fact of the matter is if its good enough for the Isle of Man, population 75,831, whose domain is .IM Then why not Scotland!
By the way the Isle of Man een has its own Civil Aircraft registry, but they are only an isleand of 75,831 after all and we cnt have Scotland thinking its better than the Isle of Man
14

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14/12/2008 03:37:10
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Jim boy,

dunedin 14/12/2008 03:58:27
#8 Let us all say the magic words the Labour Party love- Glenrothes! Glenrothes! Glenrothes! the home of the next nuclear reactor which is to supply power to South Britain.

Go Glenrothes

BIG SMILE - BIG BANG
16

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14/12/2008 06:02:33
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John S,

14/12/2008 07:12:20
#1 Welsh Assembly Government will back the work of the 'dotCYM' campaign in bidding for a national domain name for Wales on the world-wide web.
England wants its own domain. An online petition has been launched to convince ICANN to sanction a .eng suffix for England.http://www.doteng.org/

#2 - 26 Oct 2008: A Scottish Government spokesman said "We are looking at arrangements for a visit to Catalonia towards the end of the year. Studying the experience of the fantastic 1992 Barcelona Olympics in terms of the legacy benefits, as we prepare our own legacy plans for Glasgow 2014.

13 Dec 2008: Mr Salmond said “I’m looking forward to discussing this during my programme in Barcelona, where I’ll learn about the positive legacy the city achieved from their hosting of the Olympics, to see how we can ensure similar economic, health, and cultural outcomes for Scotland from Glasgow’s 2014 Commonwealth Games.

Now look at 26 Oct it mentions towards end of the year and look at 13 Dec 2008 (end of this year) and Glasgow 2014 is the common link between those two dates.

Do you ever think before you comment ?
18

donald,

glasgow 14/12/2008 07:29:49
Who wants to be a Dot.Com.YUK., apart from Labour Tories, Green and Orange Loyalists?
19

Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

14/12/2008 07:52:45
#14 Edward.

First it was Iceland.
Then it was Norway.
After that it was Ireland.
Following that it was Greenland.
And now its the Isle of Man.

Such high aspirations the SNP has for Scotland.
20

Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

14/12/2008 08:07:27
#18 John S

I initially fell asleep after starting to read your verbose post. But after a bit of fresh air, a couple of pro plus pills and 2 cups of strong coffee I made it to the end.

So let of get this right Barcelona had the Olympics 16 years ago.

Whilst Manchester had The Commonwealth Games 6 years ago.

So if you wanted to go on a fact finding trip, which city would you visit?
A foreign city that had a different event an eternity ago. . . . or a city, just down the road, in the same country that had the same event, just 6 years ago?

Its a 'nobrainer' as they say.

Unless of course you had an underlying political reason not to visit an English city for help.

Salmond is a disgrace.
21

loughjohn,

.sco 14/12/2008 08:34:05
excellent idea !.


hadrian's_wall_maintenance.sco

22

AM2,

Scotland,UK 14/12/2008 08:48:37
#9 Jimmy
#13 Kent2
#15 Finlang
#17 Guga

Fascinating responses, each racist in its own way.

I’m Irish (by birth) and Scottish (by adoption). 100% of each. I’m not “less Irish” just because I moved here or “less Scottish” because I’m a new Scot.

And those nationalists who try to imply otherwise or even deny the possibility of plurality in national identity merely betray their own prejudices.

I covered the ethnic aspect of supposedly “civic” nationalism in this blog entry:
http://www.scottishunionist.com/2008/12/civic-cultural-and-ethnic-nationalism.html
23

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 08:59:03
8 Sam the man the snp Fear most, Glenrothes! Glenrothes! Glenrothes!

Hello AM2, finally broke cover I see
24

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 09:02:56
24 AM2/Sam

What is it that you hold so dear about your Irish/Scottish identity AM2?

"100% each"

100% of what?

Are you dabbling in gutter ethnic politics again...... shameful


25

The Online Scot,

... Not The Herald ... 14/12/2008 09:05:17
I've asked this before, but can anyone let me know how it is possible to post a comment before an article appears online?

Also, it seems that only Unionists can do this, again I have to ask why.

Post 24 seems a bit on the over-reacting side !!
26

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 09:05:36


Amazing, no doubt unionists are \up in arms' about 'Ecosse' bumper stickers too.

How petty can these cringe merchants get?

Foulkes " They are ding it on purpose"

Excellent opinion piece in the Times explaining the scottish cringe of AM2, Foulkes, Sam and others, how they can only ever belittle Scotland, stuck in the 70's no vision, no ideas, no future.

How sad that these people fail to understand what Scotland is, it's history, peoples and distinctness.




27

DaveK,

Edinburgh 14/12/2008 09:57:26
Aye and all copies of windows and Mac OS sold in Scotland must have tartan as the default background! Come on this is just another little wedge driver, when there should be more important things Salmond should be pondering. He would gladly see countless companies saddled with even more debt in changing domain names, advertising, stationary you name it, just so he can cut of his .co.uk nose to spite his I’ll take the high road.co.sco face.

Alec.com, right click, remove from favourites.
28

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 10:02:55
31 Dave K

I agree Dave

Let's ban the word 'Scotland' altogether it only drives a wedge between us.

North British Museum
North British Galleries
Visit North Britain
The North British Parliament
North British Party


Where will the unionists fascism end?

29

Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

14/12/2008 10:03:08
SM753

Nevsky went into hiding ever since he posted "In the list does the Dome in London not come put top and that cost £1.25 billion and is hardly used!"

Everyman and there dog knows that the Millenium Dome (O2 Arena) has now overtaken Madison Square Gdns. as the world's most successful concert venue.

A quick check of its calendar for December shows that it is hosting major concerts nearly every day.

So it shows how much Nevsky knows.
30

LEAL,

14/12/2008 10:04:16
Britishness is dying out in Scotland.Nobody is much bothered about it anymore.Of course Scotland should have .sco
31

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 10:06:29
32 sm753 of 25060606

"....The desire to introduce "distinctiveness" and difference in all spheres where there is no practical benefit - or even if it introduces confusion and cost........"


Spoken like a true fascist

Goebbels is smiling down on you kiddo, I'm sure uncle joe's moustache is bristling with pride at your patent ignorance

What are you afraid of?



32

GMCD,

dundy 14/12/2008 10:09:12
Credit crunch, LIT plans in disarray, half price Forth bridge unveiled, no action on HBOS merger and the SNP are spending time and our money on this frippery!!!!!!!

I personally don't have anything against it but PRIORITIES!!!!
Where is the funding for the new schools, the money to reduce class sizes as promised.....typical SNP talk about anyting about the issues....
33

Grant,

Scotland 14/12/2008 10:09:31
Excellent stuff.

I believe that moves towards a .sco domain name, significantly predate the election of the SNP Government?

It's a bit like the Saltire on trains initiative by First Scotrail. In the cold light of day, this was a commercial decision by that organisation rather than an act of the SNP Government, but they still got the blame.

It's a bit like the Homecoming Scotland shabang. An initiative of the last Lib/Lab Executive.

Then there is the spectacle of saltires actually INSIDE Scottish Government buildings in their reception areas (mighty fine they are too). Another decree by the last Scottish Executive.

In this wee fantasy world of the Cyber Uni-loonies they don't seem to see that.

Still they provide us with entertainment nonetheless :-)
34

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 10:19:54
37 GMCD, dundy 14/12/2008 10:09:12

Or alternatively.....

Dealing with eh Credit Crunch by bringing forward s capital spending, lowering council tax burden than what would have happened under Labour and setting out economic growth as the key driver for social fairness.

Any guesses how much we're all going to be paying in tax in the next few years to pay for Gordon's largesse.... oh and remember 'WE saved the World' euchhhhh

Local Income Taxation based on a person's ability to pay not on the market value of their house as proposed by Labour. which has lead to those on small wages, fixed income and in rented property paying for those who can afford it.......

Why is Labour supporting a Tory Policy?

A reduced specification forth road crossing,m reusing the existing bridge to boost public transport and meet co2 targets.

No action on HBOS merger ...... this one takes the biscuit...... praytell, what would you propose that the SNP do that the UK Government couldn't?

It's amazing how a labour party membership can colour your outlook isn't it.
35

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 10:22:51
38 Grant, Scotland 14/12/2008 10:09:31

Nail on the head.

These cyber union loonies aren't posting about politics, they are a bunch of union jack waving bigots who wish to eradicate the concept of Scotland from the map.

Sounds a bit dramatic, but that really is there wish.

They are ashamed of Scotland.

They hate it and anyone that associates with the idea of Scotland as a NATION.

"...It's too wee, too stupid and too incompetent to do anything.....".




36

GMCD,

14/12/2008 10:24:11
#39...your point ?
Exactly what could the SNP gov do?

Nothing but moan and talk about internet domain names.....
37

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 10:25:35
40. Ploughman

Aye, I look forward to the day where the saltire feature prominently on my passport. and it has the word 'Scotland' emblazoned acorss it.

A real sense of pride to be part of a community that values social fairness, different cultures, peace and internationalism.

Not a parchocial british state that values war, cultural superiority, unfairness and bigotry.....

Bring it on 2011

38

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 10:28:07
42 GMCD

No answer then.

I take it that by demanding action you are advocating greater independence for Scotland so that whatever colour it's government, it could have acted to save HBOS.

Are you even aware of the situation or are just another labour party student who's finished their first semester studying housing management and feel like a wee SNP rant?

Again, praytell, what are your views on the UK Government's actions in this affair?

Or does your opinions only extend to devolved parliaments with no fiscal autonomy?

39

AM2,

Scotland,UK 14/12/2008 10:33:03
#27 Wardog

Re: “Are you dabbling in gutter ethnic politics again...... shameful”

You seem to have answered your own question. But I’m not.

Rather, the replies to my post #1 were doing precisely that. All I did was to dare criticise the SNP. In reply came several disparaging references to me being Irish.

The message they were trying to send was that I’m “less Scottish”, that I’m some kind of second-class citizen and that my perspective cannot be trusted, simply because I was born outside Scotland.

The SNP’s so-called “civic nationalism” (as opposed to racial or ethnic varieties) allows them to accept nationalists such as Pakistani-born Bashir Ahmad and English-born Nigel Don as being fully Scottish.

Nobody tries to associate Bashir Ahmad with jihadist activity or Nigel Don with football thuggery, say. Assuming the worst possible stereotype would of course be racist.

Yet Finlang feels it appropriate to try and smear me with an orange brush, even alluding to terrorist inclinations. Why? Because I’m not a nationalist.

Not that I expect you to appreciate these points. I see you’re now accusing everyone who isn’t a nationalist of “fascism”. So much for social cohesion. :-(
40

The Tin Man,

14/12/2008 10:47:21
Wardog

As you call posters 'facist' and compare them to war criminals, all for merely arguing against a new internet domain name, I take it that tolerance is not included in "a community that values social fairness, different cultures, peace and internationalism."

Talking the talk. Unable to do the other bit?
41

The Scotchman,

14/12/2008 10:49:53
BAM2
42

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 11:00:58
45 AM2, Scotland,UK 14/12/2008 10:33:03

"...The message they were trying to send was that I’m “less Scottish”, that I’m some kind of second-class citizen and that my perspective cannot be trusted, simply because I was born outside Scotland........"

Yes yes, I'm well aware of your usual blowhard codswollop

We're not going to have this tiresome debate again are we AM2.

Isn't it strange however that you don't rail against some of the pro -union posters who seem to be advocating that 'difference' be subsumed to a greater whole.....

How can having a '.sco' domain name possibly drive a wedge between Scotland and the UK, to suggest as much displays a poor understanding of identity and indeed one might argue a clear signal that you value neither of your stated 'adopted identities'

So again, I ask you, what is it that you value to your Scottish identity?

Why are you so proud to be Scottish?


43

Richard M,

Scottish Raj 14/12/2008 11:01:06
Isn't it funny how some people are obsessed with symbols to the point of seduction? In this respect, the Ace enn Pee are very similar to the Tories, with a love of kitsch and flummery. A couple of weeks ago, I was in Tenerife, and was impressed to see the large number of Saltires flying alongside the Union Jack and other European flag in the southern resorts of Los Cristianos. Was it that Alex Sammond's statesman-like act had permeated as far as the Canary Islands, and that the island is expressing solidarity with the independence movement? Sadly no. The hotel manager explained that the Saltire is also the flag of Tenerife, and has been since 1845
44

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 11:03:47
46 The Tin Man, 14/12/2008 10:47:21

Obviously the tongue in cheek has passed right over your tin(foil?) hat

Compare

"....I take it that tolerance is not included in "a community that values social fairness, different cultures, peace and internationalism."...."

with

"....The desire to introduce "distinctiveness" and difference in all spheres where there is no practical benefit - or even if it introduces confusion and cost........"



Really.








45

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 11:06:41
49 Richard M, Scottish Raj 14/12/2008 11:01:06

Your right Richard, I propose that we get rid of the .uk domain level, it's patently pointless and of 'no practical benefit '.........

Let's replace all 'distinctiveness' with .eu

But wait, that would preclude others that we must include.... .world it is then....

No, indeed . milkyway

What will we do when the little green men arrive.....

Call them british?


46

AM2,

Scotland,UK 14/12/2008 11:10:37
#43 Wardog

You spoke of an independent Scotland thus:

“A real sense of pride to be part of a community that values social fairness, different cultures, peace and internationalism. Not a parchocial british state that values war, cultural superiority, unfairness and bigotry.....”

So let me get this straight.

You’re arguing that people in Scotland value “social fairness, different cultures, peace and internationalism”.

And that in stark contrast people across the United Kingdom as a whole value “war, cultural superiority, unfairness and bigotry”.

So basically you think “Scots good” but “English, Welsh and Northern Irish bad”.

Hmm. What was it you were saying about fascism?
47

AM2,

Scotland,UK 14/12/2008 11:11:56
#48 Wardog

Re: “We're not going to have this tiresome debate again are we AM2.”

Finally we agree on something. Enjoy your day “working the forums”. Bye.
48

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 11:20:02
52. AM2

"...So basically you think “Scots good” but “English, Welsh and Northern Irish bad”...."

Sloppy, very sloppy..... I really expect better from you AM2.

The Scottish Parliament is Anti-Nuclear , against Iraq and in favour of Local Taxation Systems based on fairness, not property.....

The UK Parliament is pro-nuclear, for the iraq war and for local taxation based upon property, despite 1/5 of people not owning the property they live in..... I could go on....

"...Hmm. What was it you were saying about fascism?...."

Read above




49

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 11:21:04
53 AM2, Scotland,UK 14/12/2008 11:11:56

good riddance of bad rubbish
50

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14/12/2008 11:25:25
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14/12/2008 11:49:05
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Brian S,

Edinburgh 14/12/2008 11:50:17
1

I do wish you would give it a rest. If you can't say anything constructive then I suggest you zip it.

Pathetic indeed!
53

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 12:32:12
59 Kent2-I think your, and other posters' assesment of AM2 is really over the top. As i understand it, the SNP have stated repeatedly that their Nationalism is indeed a "Civic Nationalism"-the fact that there are many English supporters from the Land of the Old Enemy, is proof enough of this!! I recognise the aspirations of the SNP as legitimate-there is no doubt a case to be made for independence, but similarly there is a case and indeed a sentiment in favour of the 300 year old Union. Any Scot who is serious about Democracy and reasoned debate, would surely not deny this? Not all people who hail originally from Northern ireland are Orange bigots-such a statement is ignorant and insulting. You should remember, as a Scot(with the strange moniker of KENT2-English County not so?)that there is a very strong ethnic and cultural connection between Northern ireland and Scotland-not the least of which is the derivation of the name Scot!!!!! Also Home County Kent2, ever heard of the Ulster Scots?If the SNP are happy to accept a man of Pakistani origin as a Scot and a member, why should you guys question the credentials of a Scttish resident from NI? I have long since given up on slanging mtches on these forums-really achieve nothing-not to mention the fact that some of my best mates are Scots Nats, but intolerant posts such as yours are more likely to create backlashs than converts.
Have a Good Day!
54

The Tin Man,

14/12/2008 13:05:37
#50 Wardog

So you call people 'facists' for a laugh? Very witty.
55

The Tin Man,

14/12/2008 13:06:50
#50 Wardog

...Or were you being 'tongue-in-cheek' about the social inclusion stuff?
56

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 13:10:54
62 20th Century boy-such persuasive eloquence has finally made me see the light-I no longer want to be a tw*at-please forward a membership form for the SNP.
Thanks for the re-education boy.
57

The Tin Man,

14/12/2008 13:12:38
#50 Wardog

Sorry... my apologies. I see that you mean socially inclusive and peaceful govrnment, rather than actual people.
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Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 13:33:03
66 20th Century Boy-cant wait-pen in hand as we speak! And to you and all yours an Early merry Xmas from me and my fellow Unionist tw*ts!
69 Kent2-(69 is the new 100 by the way-congratulations)Do myself a mischief! Kent2 dearboy, I am not, as you probably picture me, a gin faced ex-Colonel bulging arteries about to pop at some of the stuff you guys post. Still a fit,virile mature gentleman who could still pull a chick or two i reckon(dont quote me to my wife!)
Serious though Kent, I think you are unfair and intolerant towards AM2 and similar opinions. Scottish politics is not only about the SNP. there are others who take enormous pride in and have a great love for Scotland whilst still regarding themselves as British and, seeing these two identities as perfectly compatibel.
Sorry that was a little verbose.
Bloody hot here -in the thirties and sweating like pigs!
60

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 13:35:31
Compatible
61

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Wardog™,

14/12/2008 13:38:48
63 The Tin Man, 14/12/2008 13:06:50

I can only assume that your condoning what SM167 of 3w4524234524 posted.

That we should subvert our distinctiveness for the greater good of an all encompassing identity to which many don't subscribe.

What a wonderfully dull world you inhabit
63

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 13:39:59
Hey Kent 2-what happened to your 69?!Mr.Administrator I honestly cant imagine why you deleted that post-if that was not a mistake, i think it represents an injustice.
64

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 13:41:50

68. Aye telling isn't it.... the same old gripe

Unfortunately we have Jenny Hujl on the other comment piece spitting out her usual anti-snp bile...... God you';d think we were Zimbabwe the way some of these rabid unionist go about it.

65

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 13:43:24
Kent 2-I think your post at 59 was far worse but i still would not have deleted you. Free speech and all that.
66

Geoff,

sa 14/12/2008 14:18:05
Kent2-thanks for your various replies. We can agree to disagree about my friend AM2. Sorry to hear your freezing-is it too early for a wee Whisky to combat the chill?
All the big teams drew yesterday!
Im off for a while-all the best-catch you guys later.
67

ochone,

Sauchie, clacks 14/12/2008 14:31:00
Unionists are still scared of any idea that promotes a sense of Scottish national identity.
68

The Tin Man,

14/12/2008 14:33:59
#73 Wardog the Witty

"I can only assume that your condoning what SM167 of 3w4524234524 posted.

That we should subvert our distinctiveness for the greater good of an all encompassing identity to which many don't subscribe."

Why on earth would that be your only conclusion? Anyway, your statement about distincitiveness contradicts itself. A group of people should be the same, in order to be 'distinct' from another group of people? I would rather stare at the carpet.

69

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 14:34:30



80. In the long term that will be their undoing.....

70

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 14:35:17

81 Staring at Carpets

Go yersel big tin man
71

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 14:41:28

"...A group of people should be the same, in order to be 'distinct' from another group of people....."

A quote from yoda's jedi manual?







72

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 15:56:02

Sm753

"....allows me to avoid doing any business with individuals or companies which show Nat sympathies by adopting ".sco"......."

Priceless.





73

Wardog™,

14/12/2008 16:04:30

Sm753

"....allows me to avoid doing any business with individuals or companies which show Nat sympathies by adopting ".sco"......."

Try substituting 'jew' for 'nat' and .il

Vile isn't it.








74

Scotty F,

14/12/2008 17:40:05
Why do we actually need this??? .UK there is nothing wrong with it. Just more anti British rubbish from the SNP. Salmond start sorting the key issues eg assisted suicide, prostitution and prison numbers etc in this country, rather than spending our hard earned cash tottling around Europe making us look like an oppressed people to anyone who will listen Europe!!!
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Sam the man the snp Fear most,

Glenrothes! Glenrothes! Glenrothes! 14/12/2008 17:47:42
90# The left wing idiot who does not have a clue.

There is only one Sam and a user name i am very proud of as i have used it to destroy snp propaganda and put a stop to threads turning into snp chatrooms, i have been faked many times by others but especially the left wing scum Steve A and Juan Kerr who actually had their accounts closed down at the time of faking for serious abuse, even snp posters named them, everyone knows who i am and because i am good, really good people become jealous and try and fail in many ways to attack me, i respond by humilating them and rightly so.

I am the man who predicted the GIANT win for he Unionist in Glenrothes, the snp are finished, not even any use as a protest vote.lol. which they dinned on for years and still struggled.

Even the snp are ashamed of posters like you and your fake name Wardog etc etc and have posted it, mark my words two things are destrong the snp, their muslim links and the far left (like yourself) that are sticking to them(snp), again snp voters have posted this, even activists.

It must be tough when even the party you love do not want to know you.

BIG SMILE

P.S

Everyone-Kent2 is Wardog, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah aha aha aha ha ahhahahahahahahah hahah ha ha ha ha...............

GLENROTHES! GLENROTHES! GLENROTHES!

STOP THE SNP!

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Eve,

Scotland 14/12/2008 18:00:26
I want a '.scot' or '.sco' at the end of my email address.

I asume that most Scottish Paterots would like that too.
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Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

14/12/2008 18:02:27
Sam the Man.

Join my Facebook group 'Save our Nation- Stop the SNP'

Enrolling now.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 18:03:41
95 - yes Eve, so do I. What exactly is the problem with telling the world we are Scots ? Why the fuss ? People can choose uk if they want to, what is the issue here.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 18:04:15
96 Fools seldom differ.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 18:05:28
98 well, he's bonkers Kent. That's evident to anyone who reads it. Which I do recommend, for a laugh.
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Eve,

Scotland 14/12/2008 18:07:30
# Castaway™: What reall the Labout party had 30,083 members in Scotland in 1997 and last year they had 17,000.

Thats almost 1/2 there members they've lost.

Any way the reson I'm suprised is because they allways talked/acted like about 1/2 Scotland was a member of the Labour party.

Just shows how much they try to foull us.

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Sam the man the snp Fear most,

14/12/2008 18:18:17
Observer a.k.a Betty, i do not know how is life in Rutherglen?, how is life in the multi culture slums also know as Govanhill a plave where white people can no longer sell their homes thanks to an influx of SCUM, aye the benefits of multi culture rubbish, oh well at last peole have had enough and this down turn is only going to help ,money for Brits only, no asylum seeking scroungers, lets get places like paih closed who are assisting illegal immigrants, supporters include our very own observer who has taken in illegals herself, shame on you, how does it feel to be assisting illegals and breaking the law, is it true that paih is having serious problems and that they are falling out with people left right and centre and how is the Angel group.lol., good friends of paih.lol not.



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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 18:22:39
102 Life is good where I am thanks, have you reverted to your BNP personnae just for me ? It must be confusing wearing so many hats, and all of them the dunce's one.
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Sam the man the snp Fear most,

STOP THE SNP FROM DESTROYING SCOTLAND 14/12/2008 18:31:31
96-Not my group but i will support and help any Unionist cause.

Kent2- A.K.A- Aye get the message you left wing loonie, unlike you i know how to market my views with great results and i never get anything but abuse back from posters from the snp stable as they have not got a clue how to take me on but then the snp posters are always abusive to non snp supporters, that bad that even decent snp posters distance themselves from you lot.

Looks like i will have to get the Scotsman to change its comment system to something along the lines of the Herald me thinks if the abuse continues on here so you have been warned.

How sad it is to see the like of Observer, Wardog and others playing out their lives on here, 24/7, what a bunch of lossers and even worse for them they never get results and thats after years of posting lies and non researched rubbish.

GLENROTHES! GLENROTHES! GLENROTHES!
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Sam the man the snp Fear most,

14/12/2008 18:37:21
103# Aye i suppose you are a far left winger so it will be great for you, thank god your like are far and few between.

I think i have hit a nerve with you observer, you see you and others do not like what i say but if i was snp that would be fine, i have proved this posint before regarding Britfree and his views which you refuse to distance yourself from so that makes you no better.

You see i am not Labour, not BNP(although i think this party is Britains future and it seems millions of others do aswell), i am Independant, i work to promote many views from the Unionist camp including various parties.

The British will always come first with me Observer, ALWAYS.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 18:42:12
It's independent Sammy, there's no a. The only nerve you've hit with me is the one that makes me laugh. But I'm bored now so I'm off, bye.
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it has always been allan,

14/12/2008 18:55:34
what a load of rubbish posts. From idiots full of whiskey.
if you could get independence would we be rid of Gordon Brown.
And do you really want him.nobody else does?
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 14/12/2008 18:56:33
Bring on .sco (but not .co.sco)

And while we're at it, any aspiring ISP could do worse than use that.

We already have .tv and .name for eff sake. Surely .sco cannot be that difficult to provide
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Conan the Librarian™,

14/12/2008 19:35:40
Sam, you wonder why you get nothing but abuse from SNP posters...?

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Wardog™,

.scot 14/12/2008 19:57:31

Sam

"...i work to promote many views from the Unionist camp including various parties...."

Well there we have it, our 'comrade' Samuel is on a payrol, probably George Foulkes with one too many sherries....

Sam@bnp.scum




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Conan the Librarian™,

14/12/2008 20:13:47
Evening Spook.

I'm so scared, I'm having to...er...log on.

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Conan the Librarian™,

14/12/2008 21:03:21
117
"Idealogical blinkerism"

Suits you, er...sir?
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Wardog™,

.scot 14/12/2008 21:14:11
117. sm753of 2342424953

".....Yes, and they've been there long enough for their ideological blinkerism and naive incompetence to be exposed for all......"

Can anyone remember anything that Labour ro the Liebrals did from 1999-2006?

Apart from banning smoking?

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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 14/12/2008 21:35:29
#1 AM2

Childish comments as usual
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connaughtboy,

stonehaven 14/12/2008 21:40:58
#32 smee

Showing your self-loathing again? Is it not time you developed some self-esteem?
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Wardog™,

14/12/2008 21:42:08

120.

Who are you hoping replaces the SNP at Holyrood?

Or are you praying that arthur's seats erupts and swallows up holyrood altogether?

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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 21:42:42
Well my personal favourite was the GHA Wardog, but I also remember them giving away millions upon millions of pounds of our money when they brought in Free Personal Care for the elderly and refused to fight Westminster for the money they witheld in attendance allowance. That's just two that spring to mind.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 21:47:35
PFI that sticks in the mind too.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 21:48:30
And all the electoral wrong-doing. I remember that.
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Observer. 1,

Glasgow 14/12/2008 21:50:11
And the back stabbing and the in fighting. That was quite memorable. So yeah, I guess there were some things that were notable about those years.
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Wardog™,

14/12/2008 21:52:28

124. Observer

PFI is going to be massive once it's fully on the books pre 2011.

A publicly funded Hospital and Forth Road Bridge.

Clever SNP
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Brian S,

Edinburgh 14/12/2008 22:22:30
107

It's whisky! This is a Scottish publication, try showing that you're educated enough to know the difference between whiskey and whisky.

Jeez, some folk.............
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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 15/12/2008 11:46:22
Sam the Bam, You are an affront to decency.

Immigration is a reserved matter. Start bitching at
your own Sleeze & Corruption Party - Westmidden.
And gie our heids a holiday.
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Finlang,

France 15/12/2008 15:44:22
Right on cue, as predicted, the AM2 deletion machine swallows my further posts #130/131.

Well done, Mr Free Speech. (Free for you, that is.) So, feel free to expound your Northern Irish bigoted "British" agenda all day and every day to your insignificant heart's content. That you do so from within the country that shelters you (Scotland), and presumably gives you gainful employment, is as disrespectful as it gets.

The Scottish public aboard here know well your devious modus operandi. Your deletion of anything that meets with your disapproval (i.e. critical of your ranting) is characteristic. Having legitimate posts deleted serves only to expose you as the bigoted hypocrite you are, accusing as you do, everyone who opposes you as a "racist" or similar.

"New Scot ..."?! Never in a million years will you and your mindset be any kind of "Scot". Fake identity change won't change what you are.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 16/12/2008 09:58:50
#133 Finlang

You are projecting onto me your fallacious racial stereotype. My place of birth is as irrelevant as those of Bashir Ahmad and Nigel Don, both of whom self-define as Scottish.

Simply replace "Irish" with "Pakistani" or "English" in your posts if you want to see how racist they are.

Your "you and your mindset" and "fake identity change" notions amount to the argument that only nationalists can be accepted as new Scots. That goes beyond racism into the realm of fascism.

As for the Scotsman moderator deleting your posts, doesn't that tell you something about their actual nature? Racism and bigotry are never "legitimate".

I am Irish, Scottish and British. Even the SNP would agree. Get over it.
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Finlang,

France 18/12/2008 01:59:20
#136 Southside Jimmy

Exactly so ... The reading public is aware of his pretence. That he posts his anti-Scots rhetoric from Scotland (UK) really tells you all you need to know.

#135 AM2

More of the same. You seem to hold a monopoly on the derogatory terms "racist" and "fascist", in respect of others on these threads. Both terms are your classic get-out-of-jail riposte. Sorry, reality doesn't work like that. You lash out at anyone (particularly anyone who seems to be "nationalistic" according to your own narrow definition), and call upon that limited vocabulary to slate and define those who disagree.

The two "Scots" above whom you say self-define are irrelevant to the argument. Easy to invoke eh? The first, I vaguely know of from reading (and I don't trust him or his or their implicit hidden agenda - you will know why); the second named is wholly unknown to me.

Defining oneself in "national" terms is a serious business and not to be taken lightly. Oops, I said the N-word which on one hand offends, but on the other you grasp acccording to your whim of the day. Suddenly you are "Scots" (sorry to disappoint, but I don't think so), and wonders - you actually own up to being Irish. It took two years to do that. British you are, as stated and as we all know - and as Wardog neatly nobbled you on that post #131(?) and the Northern Ireland slant, you had the post removed. Typical. You can force your argument but when the tide turns you remove the evidence, thus denying the impartial reader to voice an opinion. Classic AM2.

Talking of which ... it is a matter of record that whenever you cut a trail of volatile (NI) Britishness accompanied by anti-SNP drivel on politically-oriented threads it is axiomatic that you leave a similar trail of red-ink deletions. You must think other posters compeletly stupid. Your posts, however, remain intact.

... more below

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Finlang,

France 18/12/2008 02:07:47
... from above:

I have lived and worked in many countries. Never ever, in spite of feeling completely at home and at ease elsewhere, have I felt the need to falsely define myself as French, Swiss, Italian, Dutch ... or Chinese. Or whatever. New or old. The term "New Scots" is anyway politically terminological bollix.

If one is talking about genuinely assimilated immigrants and their kin in Scotland then one needs look no further than the Italians who arrived a century ago. And the Chinese. Both groups worked hard in their adopted land, didn't cling to the coat-tails of political opportunists, and the further generations of both earned the privilege of calling themselves Scots by assimilating seamlessly and are proudly accepted for so doing. They rightly do not forget their ethnic roots, but Scots they are and we can all be proud of them. Acceptance for the right reasons.

You, on the other hand, simply imagine you can sail across the water and anoint yourself while knocking everything Scottish in Scotland. Bad move. Identity is equivalent to loyalty and allegiance. So be British in NI if it pleases you, but do leave the patronising Scots element out of it in Scotland. Your loyalty is suspect, to say the least.

 

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