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Oil giants share £7bn profits as drivers feel pinch at pumps



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Published Date: 29 April 2008
TWO of the world's biggest oil companies today posted combined record profits of more than £7 billion for the first three months of the year – at a time when motorists are facing record prices at the pumps.
BP's profits first quarter profits surged ahead by 48 per cent to £3.32 billion, while rival Royal Dutch Shell saw profits rise by 12 per cent to £3.92bn.

The strong profits growth comes at a time when consumers are paying almost £5 a gallon at the petrol station forecourt.

PetrolWatch: Prices and availability in Edinburgh and the Lothians

But the companies claimed profits were mainly down to rising revenues from their exploration activities and not solely from forecourt rises.

Average oil prices now in excess of $90 (£45) a barrel have boosted the firms' exploration and production arms and offset tougher conditions in refining and marketing.

The latest figures for Shell follow a surplus of £13.9bn in 2007, equivalent to more than £1.5m an hour, while BP's profits fell by a more than fifth to £18.76bn last year as problems with its US refineries continued to dog the business.

Jeroen van der Veer, chief executive at Royal Dutch Shell, said: "Good operating performance, combined with increased oil and gas prices, offset the impact of downstream conditions in the first quarter 2008.

"We have delivered another competitive set of earnings for Shell's shareholders.

"Shell has the largest capital spending programme in our industry today, to grow the company and play our part in ensuring that energy markets remain well supplied. Our strategy is on track."

But today's figures have not been welcomed by some consumer and motoring groups.

Sheila Ranger, campaigns manager for the RAC Foundation, said the announcement would leave drivers feeling hard done by.

She said: "Motorists are going to feel very angry because they have been struggling with a triple whammy of high crude oil prices, high duty and tax imposed by the government and now high profits from the fuel companies.

"The price of fuel is becoming something many families are struggling with. This will be the last straw for some motorists."

Edinburgh South Labour MP and former Consumer Affairs Minister Nigel Griffiths said he would like to see a windfall tax on the profits.

"It is important not just shareholders, but the public benefit from high oil prices," he said.

And he said money raised from a windfall tax should be used to cut gas and electricity bills for hard-pressed consumers. According to the AA said UK motorists are now paying an average of 109.8p a litre for unleaded petrol, equivalent to £4.99 a gallon as crude oil reached a new all-time high of $119.93 a barrel.

Prices have also been driven higher by supply outages in Nigeria that have helped to support oil against a strengthening dollar.

Demand in the US is high for Nigeria's light, sweet crude, which is easily refined.

Louise Doherty of website petrolprices.com said motorists would be angered by today's profits announcement. She said: "Hauliers and the average motorist have been struggling while the oil companies make record profits.

"Prices have risen in the last ten days far more than you would normally expect. The retailers blame the oil companies and the oil companies blame the retailers, but at the end of the day, it's the motorists who are losing out."


Motorists face increases despite end of strike
MOTORISTS were today warned petrol prices could soar even higher over the coming weeks, despite the Grangemouth refinery strike coming to an end.

The price of oil hit a record high yesterday, but experts say this will take about six weeks to filter down to consumers.

It comes as workers returned to the plant in Grangemouth following a 48-hour strike.

Supplies of petrol and diesel are still running low in many parts of Edinburgh and the Lothians, with several service stations drying up.

Many outlets are continuing to limit purchases to £20.

Although the strike at Grangemouth is over, it will take two or three weeks before the facility is back to full production. There is also still the possibility of a further action, with no sign of an end to the dispute over the pensions.

The Unite union is to meet with the senior management of Ineos in London.

Louise Doherty of petrolprices.com, a consumer website, said the current uncertainty meant even higher prices at the pumps. She said: "We expect it to get worse over the next six weeks.

"There may be a dip in the short-term, but we expect them to hit £1.50 a litre by September. We've already had a 20p a litre rise in the last year. Edinburgh will be one of the first places to feel the increase, as prices are already fairly high."

The price of petrol in Lothian hit a new high over the weekend.

One Prestonpans garage was charging £1.25 a litre for unleaded, and some diesel was selling for £1.25 a litre.

A spokesman for the Motor Retail Industry Association, agreed prices were set to rise for several weeks.



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  • Last Updated: 29 April 2008 12:57 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

The Answer,

Glasgow 29/04/2008 09:47:55
According to the gnats on this site grangemouth is sending anywhere between £37 - £176 billion to westminister each year (and that's for producing less than 10% of UK refinery output, so the profits made from worlwide operations by BP Shell etc are tiny.

Maybe the SNP gnat poster figures are a little bit overstated!
2

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 10:15:50
Does anybody ever consider that petrol/diesel could be half price if the government didn't tax it so heavily?

I guess the oil companies have not been complaining about the price of oil and may well be instrumental in the price rise but Government in this country is taxing the begeebers out of fuel and gives nothing but obstructive policy in return!

At any rate isn't £7billion what a football player spends on hair products in a week ?!
3

Dragonlord,

29/04/2008 10:27:23
The profits are from exploration and production.

They have used this before and I still can't see how looking for oil, and producing it makes money. Selling oil is where the money is made surely?

Government tax should be reduced immediately but Broon will go ahead with the planned rise and the counrty will suffer.

No matter what poster one says, we must be better off with independance. Sticking with such a big drain on resorces will take us down with them. Then they will see how their own polution figures are, instead of useing Scotland as an offset.
4

Loki, Angel of Death,

The Dark Side 29/04/2008 10:38:55
Maybe it's time to blockade all the refineries. Last time that happened Tony Blair said he would call out the army if it happened again. Well it's fat boy Broon in charge now and I don't think he's got the bottle to call out the armed forces against a democratic nation protesting within their guidelines of a peaceful protest.

All people want to do is bitch abnout how bad things are.

As the oil giants announce their billions of profits, those of us at the lower end of the food chain tighten our belts and pray to God that the price of petrol doesn't go up again.

Oh to be middle class and bitch for an hour or two about the price increase. After I had got it out of my system I would climb into my 4X4 and drive off into the sunset ignoring all the poor drivers around me driving as though I were the only driver on the road!

Well I'm poor and on benefits. Our car really is a luxury and a necessity for a family of five.

If I felt it would make a difference I would park over the gates of Grangemouth to stop these strikers getting back in. But in the grand scheme of things, noone cares as long as one of the two parties involved get what they want.

To all of you strikers at grangemouth, thank you for ruining our meagre way of life. If and when I have to sell the car (Which is looking more likely everyday) I'll buy some black orchids to lay at your gates with the proceeds. Maybe one or two of you can help my wife and I on and off the bus with our shopping.

Stay alive people it's the only way to live

Loki

P.S. I've already stood up to be counted in the face of adversity. November 1998 in Edinburgh. I don't know how to fight these oil giants and the government over the price of a litre but if someone knows how to do it, I'll follow you to the bitter end to support you.
5

brianmca3,

edinburgh 29/04/2008 11:21:29
well well it seems westminster has helped itself to huge amounts of cash from the oil,both labour and conservatives dismissed,margo mcdonalds plea that an oil fund be set up when it first came ashore,were told this was not on,as there wouldnt be that much cash from it,plus it wouldnt last past 20years,one figure quoted was that westminster treasury was losing 25million pounds a day in tax,boy how would we have fared with all the revenue from the oil,UAE pump out the same amount as the north sea,they set up the same funds,as margo wanted,low and behold theyare over flowing in billions of cash,yes she was proved right
30million held back by blair,that was for eldery care
once again we are ripped off
its either new liebour or the cons who put a stop to scotland getting more from the oil
fib dems are just as bad
6

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 12:18:13
If the oil companies are increasing their profits by these kind of figures on the back of rising oil prices then think how much extra the government is making with their FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT fuel tax.

Fuel duty should be halved immediately. I propose that the motorists and truckers take over at Grangemouth where the pickets have left off. Refuse to let up until Darling delivers the halving of fuel duty and Brown delivers a call to the country and his resignation.
7

My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 29/04/2008 12:27:32
Gee, how utterly boring.
8

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington 29/04/2008 12:27:46
Some reputable people are starting to predict 180 Dollar and even 200 Dollar oil. If that happens, these will seem like the good old days.
9

capy,

leith 29/04/2008 12:34:39
these profits are a real kick in the teeth to people like myself in the transport buisiness.costs are going through the roof,and if we increase prices to customers they start to look ealsewhere.the government will make more from corporation tax and increased vat receipts.but still the tax hike on the motorist and transport companies continues. will no one hear our cries.we cannot take much more!!
10

Alba-Hibs,

29/04/2008 12:43:57
Loki,
ideas on how to pay for petrol

1/ get a job
2/ sell your computer
11

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 12:56:33
Capy,

I sympathise with you but much as it might be difficult, put the oil companies' profits to one side for now. The issue that is affecting you is the huge taxation on fuel. This is not down to the oil companies, it is down to the government and could be changed tomorrow---or even today.

Once we have sorted the taxation problem out, we can then look at oil company profits if we feel we need to. If the oil companies have made this much out of the rising oil prices, just think how much more the government have made out of them. Attack the government first. They are our priority. Don't allow yourself to be misled or side-tracked by reports of huge oil company profits. That is a completely separate issue.
12

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

29/04/2008 12:58:50
As a genuinely smug and annoying person who doesnt drive and never has done but has shares in BP, I'd like to commiserate but I can't
13

fresian,

edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:13:30
So Nigel Griffiths wants to intoduce a "Windfall Tax" on BPs profits....Are the greedy Cants in government not raking enough from oil already.
14

Arrow,

edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:14:23
#12 but when the cost of your food, public transport,and any other faciltiy that relies on oil or has to be transported perhaps you may sing a different tune. to quote John Donne "no man is an island......"
15

Iain fae Elgin,

29/04/2008 13:22:18
"Our car really is a luxury and a necessity"

Which is it then Loki, Angel of cr@p?

Can't be both.
16

Billy Effluvia,

Paris, France 29/04/2008 13:30:50
Fuel is not expensive. If it was, people would stop driving such monstrous, fuel-inefficient vehicles. So instead, we are subjected to drivel from parsnip-brained, self-centred yampies complaining about how the government is to blame. I can't think of anyone I feel less sorry for.
17

Billy Effluvia,

Paris, France 29/04/2008 13:31:13
Actually, I can. But I'm not telling you.
18

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

29/04/2008 13:41:47
14 I dont care arrow. If I dont know about how things work it wont affect me. If youve got nothing sensible to say then try to be quiet.
19

Tr1xx,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 13:42:23
As soon as I saw the headline I expected to see the usual rent-a-mob here complaining about these obscene profits. Anyway, I was wrong, and it's good to see some reasoned comments, with most posters apparently able to appreciate the broader picture. It's just a pity that Nigel Griffiths couldn't be a bit more sensible in that respect. Windfall tax, huh, get a grip.
20

McWeed,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 14:05:55
Why are you gving the price per gallon? Fuel is sold by the litre and has been for some years now.
21

My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 29/04/2008 14:40:45
"Prices have risen in the last ten days far more than you would normally expect. The retailers blame the oil companies and the oil companies blame the retailers, but at the end of the day, it's the motorists who are losing out."

No they're not. Look at all of them, driving their huge cars and SUVs all over the place. They're not losing out at all, darling. They're just pouting because something isn't is cheap as they'd like it to be.
22

Scotish Exile,

29/04/2008 14:41:31
Just think what real sh*t we will be in when the oil dries up and the treasury has to cope without the Billions it collects from its use. Now that really is something to worry about...what tax's will our beloved politicians dream up then??
23

My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 29/04/2008 15:01:13
22.

The word you're looking for is "taxes". Not "tax's".

24

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 29/04/2008 15:33:16
#13. So the Government of the day is "greedy", what a ridiculous comment! Where do you think you dole money comes from?

We are in a crazy situation, currently the North Sea produces enough oil for us to be self-sufficient. However we are held hostage by OPEC, not only does the Government need to get together with other western nations to put pressure on OPEC, the Government DOES need to consider a windfall tax.
25

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

29/04/2008 16:17:15
Take the bus
26

I love to eat Sellotape,

29/04/2008 16:57:41
But return it when you're finished
27

Gogzy,

29/04/2008 19:23:54
god, i cant wait till i lave this country
might actually have a better (and cheaper) way of life.

as much as i love scotland and that it will always be my home im getting sick of the cost of how much it is to live here, mp should be made to pay for petrol for their cars and everything that any normal person has to do. also they should be made to houseshare if they have to have a second home in london would save hundreds of thousands every year.

darling is an Ahole, big broon has deserted his country of origin and basically doesnt give a crap anymore, its all about the well off rich people who get anything in this country.

thanks for deserting us broon
28

Rod,

Champfleurie Estate 29/04/2008 20:53:57
#12 As a genuinely smug and annoying person who doesnt drive and never has done but has shares in BP, I'd like to commiserate but I can't

We have 3 cars but also a great number of shares in oil companies which have been amassing over very many years. Our dividends practically cover the running costs of our cars and today's news is very welcome as my wife wants to purchase a Hummer to replace her Lexus 4x4.
29

is it me?,

Monte Carlo 29/04/2008 21:13:09
I own several oil wells, so I think this is all a jolly good show.

Keep buying the shares. Every little helps my pension fund.

Oil be seeing you.
30

me150,

29/04/2008 22:32:59
What is the problem with the government making all this money on fuel tax?

If it wasn't coming from fuel it would be from somewhere else. The end result is just about the same with us paying the same amount of tax but under a different name, like road pricing....just like the countries where fuel tax is much less than here.

Guess what....in these countries the total tax is about the same as here

i.e. small fuel tax + road pricing = +- UK fuel tax.
31

Bravetart,

30/04/2008 00:03:57
It isn't the profits that make people sick it is the high tax.

I'm glad to see people finally starting to protest, enough is enough. Cars are a lifeline for too many people thanks to the dreadful public transport and lack of. Never mind the mums who drive three streets over to the school or those who live in cities where there are plenty of buses, oops nearly said trams there! Many people actually need their cars to get to work (shifts = usually low paid = hardest hit in the pocket as always) or community workers such as nurses, there are plenty of examples of people for whom the loss of a car would be devastating.

It isn't a luxury for some, it is a necessity.

Now if some of those billions Brown had grabbed from the fuel tax had just been put back into public transport for the entire country and not just London...
32

Bravetart,

30/04/2008 00:08:54
Actually just to add and this might seem a little rude Loki but if you are on benefits then surely you won't need to use the car as much. Once a week to the supermarket I take it.

Think of what the costs are for the low paid who need to get to work on time. I could take the bus I suppose, there are two a day to Edinburgh, and if I miss the last one there is always tomorrow.
33

brian mcc,

the arctic 30/04/2008 01:25:58
Both BP & Royal Dutch Shell are to invest heavily in the waters separating Russia from Canada and Alaska.

Look to the future, the NW Passage may soon be open to tanker traffic.

Tourism will follow; imagine a 10 day cruise from Glasgow to Anchorage in Alaska.

Tis a small world if you can afford it.
34

brian mcc,

the arctic 30/04/2008 01:36:28
Realize exactly whom you are dealing with.
Exxon has a silent stake in Alaska since the Valdez tanker disaster.
Sir John Browne visited Alaska, his career and the 18" steel pipe burst at the same time. Where is he now, BP John B?
The influence of money buys politicians.
The taste of money is addictive.
The smell of tailpipe exhuast is sickening.
35

Julian,

EDINBURGH 30/04/2008 03:20:37
As Mario says,

Stop whinging and take the bus...or buy a smart car...or stop taking all those unnecessary journeys.

#20 McWeed,

"why are you giving the prices per gallon"

Because it's a good bit of corny, sensationalistic journalism. If they said it was now £4 or £6 per gallon, would anyone be any the wiser?
36

Julian,

EDINBURGH 30/04/2008 03:23:42
Michael Blackley,

Just in case you weren't trying to be sensational, fuel has been priced in this country by the litre for the last 20 years.
37

geekpie,

forfar 30/04/2008 17:04:32
Personally I hope oil and petrol prices do keep rising. There are too many cars on the road.

 

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