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Published Date: 15 November 2009
THE aristocratic organiser of The Gathering has called for more taxpayers' money to be ploughed into the controversial event, even though it made a loss of £600,000 under his stewardship.
Lord Jamie Sempill said the level of public funding had to be "much higher" than the £500,000 invested in this year's event if the celebration was to be an economic success in the future.

His remarks angered politicians, who are calling for a full investigation into the key attraction of the 2009 Year of Homecoming on 25 July after a series of embarrassing disclosures about its finances.

Sempill blamed the recession and the weather for the difficulties, admitting that "the size of the commercial failure has been a bitter pill for all of us to swallow".

But it was his remarks suggesting that the public should contribute more to future events that irritated his critics.

In his blog on the Panalba website, Sempill said: "To effectively create an event on this scale, the level of public funding has to be much higher. I believe that in future the budget should reflect a more equitable balance between public and private funding.

"I am also confident that the second Gathering will generate another great boost for the economy of Scotland. But as a final note to the taxpayer, of whom there are only some two and a half million in Scotland, your total contribution to the event amounts to a manageable 43p per head."

The event, which attracted 47,000 domestic and overseas visitors to Edinburgh's Holyrood Park, was a celebration of Scottishness that plugged into the Scottish Diaspora.

Sarah Boyack, the Labour MSP for Edinburgh Central, said a full investigation into the loss-making event was now necessary. "Lord Sempill's comment about it only costing the taxpayer 43p is completely unacceptable, in this climate, where there is so much pressure on public expenditure.

"These are astounding comments, given the fact that this project ran out of financial control. There are real questions about the lines of accountability that need to be answered. Just blaming this on the recession is not good enough.

"I am not anti the Homecoming, because there were some fantastic events. But we do need to have a proper look at this project."

Andrew Burns, the Edinburgh City Council Labour group leader, said: "To glibly suggest the event ought to be bigger and better next time round is not the right attitude. A much more sober and calm look needs to be taken to make sure the mistakes aren't repeated, and it has to be looked at in terms of what's going on elsewhere."

The thousands of visitors and expat Scots who came to the Gathering were estimated to have generated £8.8 million for Edinburgh and £10.4m for Scotland.

But that economic success was not reflected in the books of The Gathering 2009 Ltd, the company set up by Sempill and his business partner Jenny Gilmour.

A total of £600,000 was lost. Public sector bodies – including Lothian and Borders Police, the Scottish Ambulance Service and the Scottish Government, which handed over a £180,000 loan to ensure it went ahead – have written off £300,000 they were owed.

There is also uncertainty about another £300,000 which is owed to a string of private suppliers and contractors.

A deal to hand the intellectual property rights – and responsibility for the debt – to the recently formed Destination Edinburgh Marketing Alliance (Dema) appeared to run into trouble last week.

Norman Springford, one of the key Dema figures, quit the organisation because he felt the taxpayers' bail-out had taken place behind his back.

The Scottish Government admitted Dema had not been involved in any of the talks to take over the event and inherit debts which were racked up by its organisers.

Springford, an award-winning entrepreneur and hotelier, had been head of Dema's board and his departure was seen as a huge blow for the fledgling marketing body.

The agreement to hand over the debt to Dema was approved without the backing of Springford's board. Springford, a former accountant and ex-director of Partick Thistle who built up the Apex Hotel Group, was said to be furious at the prospect of Dema being saddled with huge debts.

Despite the problems, Sempill's blog described The Gathering as a "unique celebration of our historical traditions and culture".

He praised visitors for coming to Scotland in the "teeth of a global recession" and generating more than £18m for the economy.

He said that public funding was only 20 per cent of the budget at the beginning, but the "banking debacle" resulted in sponsorship drying up and costs escalating.

Sempill, who could not be contacted for comment yesterday, said on his blog that the organisers were "very fortunate" that the Scottish Government came up with its loan, saving the event from cancellation.


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1

The Real Rufus T Firefly,

14/11/2009 22:52:36
Lord Jamie Sempill is correct.

I think he should have access to unlimited public funds.

Who cares about health, care for the elderly, schools, law and order etc when we can use that money to fund a party for Heuchter Teuchters, sheep farmers and crofters.
2

Tracker,

15/11/2009 00:11:57
To make the Gathering a future success taxpayers' funding must be "much higher". Would it be unfair of me to question Lord Sempill's competence?
3

JaF,

15/11/2009 00:18:12
#1-Firetry - well written, required a lot of thought, congratulations.
4

Curley Bill,

15/11/2009 00:27:20
When I saw that a Lord wants more cash I naturally assumed it was Fatty Foulkes.
5

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 00:35:13
Oh the irony! The Homecoming sqaud gettin advice on how tae spend public money frae Andrew Burns !
6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 00:40:18

Lord Jamie Sempill, Can Forget it!, I would rather give my contribution of public money to good causes, such as cancer charities, the man is deluded.

7

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 00:44:26
So lets see - the Rt. Hon. the Lord Sempill, Chief of Clan Sempill, Vice Convener of the Standing Council of Chiefs, and 21st hereditary lord of that name, chair of The Gathering, a company which made a loss of £600,000 and is unable to meet its debts - despite receiving about £500,000 of public money - whose firm also made out a £38,909 loan to Panalba Ltd, another firm the Chief of the Clan Sempill was a director of, and who confirmed the loan would also have to be written off because the company was "not in a position" to pay it back, and a director of several dissolved companies, including Scotch Direct Ltd and Malt Masterclass... thinks WE the taxpayer should give him MORE of our money!!!

No.

His lordship should be passing the hat round his fellow clan chiefs to make a collection to refund the police and ambulance service, and the City Council and the Scottish government, and the dozens of private firms all owed money from this disaster.

Once he's done that, let's look into whether any of the firms involved were guilty of trading while insolvent. let's look at who in L&B Police agreed to write off the debt and whether that's a binding decision. It's my money as a taxpayer and I didn't agree to forgive any such debt. Let's look into where the money actually went.


8

Observer,,

Glasgow 15/11/2009 01:26:57
Well I think we have to do a cost benefit analysis here.

How much in the long term can we fleece off rich tourists if we keep this going, as opposed to how much the tax payer will loose.

I reckon we can fleece a fortune off them in the long run, which is what this is all about, and so I am pragmatic about the whole thing. But not having the figures or projections to view I can't give a definite opinion.
9

BraveLungs,

15/11/2009 01:29:40
£10 million gained, £800,000 lost.
I'm no mathmetician, but those numbers look good to me.
10

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 01:48:17
#9 - who gained this £10m? I certainly didn't. It looks as if I and my fellow taxpayers have lost £1.1m all told. And who calculated this £10m anyway?

And another thing - who told the police and ambulance service they could write off £300,000 of taxpayers' money?

11

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 01:53:12
Another other thing - if Panalba owes the Gathering 39,000 and The Gathering owes the taxpayer £600,000, and His Lordship the Lord Sempill is still operating under the trading name Panalba to demand even more taxpayer's money - can we have some of that money back?
12

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 01:53:48
They say that once your house has been broken into, you need to take extra security steps because once the burglar has seen how to get into your house he knows how easy it will be to break in again so once you've replaced the goods that were stolen he'll come back again for a second go.

Is that's what is happening here?
13

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 02:12:31
It's worth looking at the panalba.com website - wholly owned by Panalba Limited which owes and is unable to repay the Loan of £39,0000 made by The Gathering - to see the bare faced cheek of the man as he justifies his handling of taxpayers' money and blatantly demands more, slagging us off for begrudging him all that loot. Panalba owes us nearly £40k that I know of, and The Gathering owes us hundreds of thousands more. And he tells us its OUR fault.

Actually panalba.com - "Scotland's world community" as it styles itself - is worth a read, apart from the whingeing of the much misunderstood Lord Jamie Sempill. The main woman behind Panalba Limited - Lucy-Rose Walker - look her up on the internet to see her interesting business past - is off on a seven-week holiday to the Americas. How can she afford a seven week holiday if she's not getting paid? If she is getting paid, why is she getting paid to take a seven week holiday?

No wonder Mister Salmond loves Lord Jamie Sempill.
14

Anna nexr door,

15/11/2009 02:21:42
Maybe Sarah Boyack, the Labour MSP could look into the amount of money that is getting diverted from Scottish lottery projects and charity's to pay for the Inner London regeneration project (better known as the Olympics)

We're only down about 250000000 so far and it's still three years to go!!

Woo hoo another Union dividend!!!!
15

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 02:29:58
#14 - well if she did, that would certainly divert her attention from the scandal right in her own part of the world, presided over by Mister Salmond. And that's her job as a MSP, whereas looking at what happens in London isn't.

On the other hand, perhaps nationalist politicians could start to take an interest in Lord Sempill and his cronies and stick up for Scotland's public finances, even if it looks as if their own ministers are implicated.


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Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 02:30:11

While they're doing so, they could maybe also pay a bit more attention to what Osama Saeed, another beneficiary of Mister Salmond's largesse has been up to with public money lavished on the Scottish Islamist Forum. Osama is the nationalist candidate for Glasgow Central who recently had to disown his mentor after he proved inconveniently also to be the mentor of the guy who killed 13 US soldiers in Texas.
17

langtonian,

uphall 15/11/2009 03:25:27
Fifi la bonbon;
"Gathering" comment,fact's,and figures are a deal more revealing for public expose than has been forthcoming from SNP governance sources;keep up your "interest".When £.S.D. has to be sourced for "pet S.N.P.projects"it always seems to be available.
A trio of S.N.P.projects that be worth casting your investigative "eagle" eye over are;

1)Funding for up and coming S.N.P.propaganda;First Minister Alex Salmond will use 30th,November,St, Andrews Day to regurgitate the "Scotland's Future" that has been trailed round Scotland for some 3months past.At a suggested cost of £700,00(appears to be a plaigerised Calman report with A.S.spin added)

2)Gaeldom;with all that encompasses deserves supportive funding;but no more or less in relation to the all othe sections of Scotland's communities.The figure per capata spend on Gaeldom requiers to have a cap put on it,and the current spend on all matters relating to "media" including BBC.with more clarity of how much is flowing the way of all things Gaelic.

3)The #16 comment is on the face of it the most seiouse "revelation";given the subject matter,some answers should be forthcoming ASAP from SNP Govnerment sorces,sooner rather than later.
18

dba,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 06:27:59
Sadly, an inherited title does NOT appear to make one a 'fit and proper person' to be a Chief Executive in what was SUPPOSED to be a commercial venture.

Sadly when the Darien expedition bankrupted Scotland centuries ago (another cack-handed dream that went wrong) the LORDS had all of THEIR losses paid by by England (secretly) and the vote on 'Union' was passed... the 'little people' who invested everything they had - GOT NOTHING!

1; I question whether or not His Lordship has read theCompanies Act (As ammended).
2: I would like to know what (exact) business plan was drawn up?
3: I would like to know who (Exactly) was responsible for the financial oversight of the company?
4: Given the loss (beleived to be over £600,000) I await the investigation and report by Audit Scotland and, if need be, the Department of Trade.
5: I would like to see an investigation into allegations of 'knowingly trading whilst insolvent'.
6: I would like to hear His Lordship's proposals in respect of the institutional and small company creditors.
7: I would like to know what he has been inhaling, inbibing or injecting to come up with the plan to receive even MORE public funding at a time when the City of Edinburgh Council is facing a deficit of over 247 MILLION POUNDS over the next few years and the Scottish Government could be facing a THREE BILLION pound deficit!

I look forward to His Lordship explaining (SIMPLY and inprint) as to why he should be trusted with annother penny of Public Funds.

I'm sorry your Lordhsip - NOT ONE PENNY OF PUBLIC FUNDS (Of whatsoever sourcing) should be entrusted to you or any company or entity, wherein you hold a position of responsibility until such times as
(a) You produce audited account for ALL of the Companies involved in this year's fiasc0,
(b) the Auditor General's Office has publisheda complete and full report and
(c) All creditors have had their debts discharged.

In these times when many, many people are facing recession, redun
19

tearortwo,

15/11/2009 07:23:14
These comments are, by and large, far too negative. Few business ventures make a profit in their first year of operation and the Homecoming 2009 should be seen in this light. Lessons should and will be learnt to improve for the future.

This was initially one of the few good Scottish based ideas of Labour, taken on by the SNP administration and constructive comments on an all party basis would be much more helpful and mature than this constant sniping and moaning.
20

Iron Soul,

banking on it 15/11/2009 08:07:29
It seems simple really - if #10m gbp benefit (sic) is slushing around, then these beneficiaries need to be hit for 10% contribution to the losers from whom they benefited.
The noble Lord needs to make this his priority (unpaid)
21

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 08:36:35
10 - three hundred grand ? Jesus, that wouldnae even cover the expenses to dae up former Glesca MP Davie Marshall's hoose...sorry, I meant his workplace and office !
22

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 08:37:57
Three hundred grand ? that wouldnae even cover a week of MoD overspend !
23

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 15/11/2009 08:42:43
Sack Sempill and dump the whole Gathering nonsense. Simples.
24

LEAL,

15/11/2009 09:02:08
The homecoming was a great success and brought millions of pounds into Scotland.
25

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 09:02:39
23 simples ? you said it.
The money spent on the Gathering, well I doubt that would finance a months work on the 2012 Olympiad. But then us hicks up here should ken oor place.
26

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 09:14:38
"THE aristocratic organiser of The Gathering . . ."
Finalist for this year's 'Upper Class Twit of the Year', more like; supported by a cast of clueless Hoorah Henriettas. http://www.clangathering.org/content/about-the-gathering-2009.html
27

ConnorD,

15/11/2009 09:39:25
#18 - Absolutely right. It seems that when it comes to Events in Scotland, organisers are allowed to play fast and loose with taxpayers' money, whether that be local or national government.
Politicians are so taken with the idea of their self-promotion and being seen at the front "in the photies" that they will do anything to bolster some shaky promotions with even shakier accounting.
Edinburgh seems particularly vulnerable to the snake oil salesmen who infest the public events arena so it is not only The Homecoming that is unable to account and justify the expenditure of public money. A current example is the Edinburgh Christmas fiasco - promoters still owe money to the the Coocil, oor cooncil!!, and yet the same people are trusted year on year. If a tradesman does a poor job in my house or the wrong price, guess what? I get someone better to do it.
28

Clan Irving,

The Scottish Borders 15/11/2009 09:43:30
It is deeply regrettable that the full financial picture is now coming to light. By all means events of this type should take place, it is after all our Scottish Heritage that we should be justly proud. However the event is financed, whether publicly funded or a mix of both public and private investment, it should and must be run by independent, financial and business professionals. That seems to be quite clear in the cold light of day.
29

Sally Longlegs,

edinburgh 15/11/2009 09:52:18
Tartan tat ! A load of SNP inspired embarassing nonsence.
30

Gordiedoonsooth,

Engerland daen misshhunnery wurk! 15/11/2009 09:58:05
So is he another one like so many so-called 'Clen Cheeefs' who are more fond of spending time in London and the home counties than in their 'native' Scotland.
Or does he actually spend at least 46 weeks of the year in Scotland.
31

New Danielrober,

15/11/2009 10:33:47
New events do need support.
32

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 10:33:57
29 - an' Lord Foulkes is a workin' class hero as well.
33

DialMforMurdoX,

15/11/2009 10:34:57
Loving the fact that Fifi was up at 2.30am frothing about this. Sempill is no longer involved in The Gathering. Any event that makes a return of £24 for every £1 of public money is a no brainer.

Also enjoying poor Sarah Boyack's, 'Some of my best friends are Homecomers', schtick. Why can labour and the Unionist dependence junkies on here not acknowledge that the Homecoming has been a good thing? Tourism has survived what could have been the worst year ever, and a ginormous part of that has been the success of Homecoming 2009.

All the cwap written by this blatt and others which have used non-Homecoming events that have flopped as justification for putting the boot in, simply carry their cringe on their foreheads...in Bic. This last week we've seen nonsense about the SECC final fling, which Pete Irvine has gone at great pains to describe as a non SNP event, doesn't stop the tabs and the Hootsman from having a go. Next week the Trad Awards take place for the first time in Dumfries, it's a sell out, and michty me it's got SNP govt funding! Noooooooo.
34

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 10:35:29
29 - err... it was the previous Lab-Lib administration who came up with the idea o' the Homecoming
35

mr broon,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 11:06:35
It is certainly controversial.

However, the cost of the London Olympics, originally budgeted at £2 billion, is now running at £9 billion!

Closer to home, the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, for various reasons now requires a further £60 million in funding.

All the greedy parties involved in these events must view them like a rich, moveable feast.
36

scully,

Colchester Essex 15/11/2009 11:08:12
I was up in Fort William, Inverness and the Isle of Sky 2008. But 6 months after coming back from Holiday there. I became quite ill. its now an ongoing thing. So I think the Highlanders shot themselves in the foot.I could not attend the Gathering. and I did so want to meet my friends from Canada and introduce them to my greatest friend.
37

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 15/11/2009 11:29:39
There are plenty of village Highland games for people who think a good time is running around carrying a telephone pole. Tartan tat fills every shop. So we don't need this trumped up aristocratic oik begging for subs.
38

DialMforMurdoX,

15/11/2009 12:20:25
#37 Who are you to decide on how people celebrate their Scottishness?
39

Fifi la Bonbon,

15/11/2009 13:29:09
I really do recommend that people take the time to read the blog at panalba.com.

You know that feeling you sometimes get when walking or driving in the Highlands on some laird's estate and a range rover passes by and you get the distinct feeling that you're nor welcome? That's the feeling I get from that website.

Theres's a particularly telling comment there - "Whether we are American, Canadian, Irish, Australian or from elsewhere there is a visceral part of us that is Scottish and that is something "locals" can never take from us. "

Yes, we "locals" - we peasants, we Scots who actually live here - are the problem. They really think that.

We should shut up and let the quality rake in the money - that is, the subsidy from the taxpayers, and the profits from trading, and the write-off from the debts. And its all our fault and we should just shut up and take whatever they dish up for us. Whether it's Mister Trump fencing off lumps of Aberdeenshire, or it's Mister Salmond handing over vast chunks of dosh to his lordship, we should just keep quiet and watch others getting rich.

I'm not interested in independence from England, but could we not get independence from rich plutocrats and toffee-nosed lords with an unjustified sense of entitlement?
40

EK,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 13:49:47
I don't want to pay for this unneccessary event. I'd rather pay my taxes for a better Scotland, sort out some of the social problems. jobs, more nurses, doctors, teachers, police etc.
41

EK,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 13:54:51
The world is evolving and has always done so. Scottishness is dwindling - there are but a few million Scots left and I suspect they will go the same way as the Native Americans etc. We have to be pragmatic, there used to be no such thing as nations, only cavemen and hunter gatherers, then there were small nation states, tribes, then came empires, countries, and now the world is expanding to a global community. By all means celebrate diversity if you must but not at the tax payers' expense. There are too many serious problems in the world to fritter money and effort away on a "gathering".
42

Thrawn,

UK 15/11/2009 13:57:36
#4: or Lord Martin!

#40: think of the saving if that unnecessary layer of bureaucracy the Scottish Parliament were to be scrapped.
43

danbob,

15/11/2009 13:57:54
39# Read it on your recomendation fifi. The arrogance on show is quite breathtaking. Any support for any future gatherings have just evaporated in my mind. Stunning arrogance.
44

Mallory,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 14:01:20
What intellectual property rights are involved? Have the designers, printers, snappers, copy-writers, web designers etc been paid in full? Surely creatives working on maintain residual rights under European Law?
45

Mallory,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 14:07:26
And why is panalba dot com registered through a Portugese company called Domain Discreet?

Rua Dr. Brito Camara, n 20, 1
Funchal, Madeira 9000-039
PT
Phone: 1-902-7495331

Are there no Scottish company's who could have done that?
46

janedidthat,

Stirling 15/11/2009 14:14:02
Sempill is obviously so incompetent he couldn't run a whisky drinking competition in a distillery (err, wasn't one of his failed companies doing something like that?). It beggars belief that he was let within 500 miles of it by the powers that be.

I see that someone has posted the question "Why did The Gathering really loose so much money?" over on tartanweb (http://community.tartanweb.com/items/show/type/question). Be interesting to see what opinions come up there on a free forum (and which gets most voted up)
47

BraveLungs,

15/11/2009 14:45:23
The public expense of supporting the Royal family is often justified on the grounds that they bring in a lot of tourist money. If an event generates 10 million pounds from an expenditure of £800,000, that sounds like a good return to me. Of course a lot of that money finds it's way back to the government in the form of taxation.
Whilst the money spent on organizing the event is a one off payment, the potential revenue from the goodwill generated by it and similar events is much longer lasting.
48

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 15:51:02
39 - to paraphrase Woody Guthrie, this Land is oor land. We can't be barred from acces tae as we have been in the past, Dennis Canavan and the Scottish Parliamnet saw tae that.
But of course us peasants were told that the history of oor country amounted tae nothin' much, that the Lowland tongue was slang, and the anti-Gaelic bigots keep tellin' us that language is foreign. So when people complain that the Homecomin is too tartan or as one bint wrote intae the Scotsman, too 'ethnocentric', the objectors' motives have to be questioned.
49

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 15:55:38
41 - monoculture in other words. That mentality prevailed in Germany, you know, " Ein Reich, Ein Volk...etc".
Anyway why fritter a few hundred grand on such things the Gathering when we can have the MoD mis-spend billions on puttin the world tae rights ?
50

Pilrig.,

Livingston 15/11/2009 15:56:30
40 oh aye, and we need money for Trident and MPs expenses.
51

Hobbe,

15/11/2009 16:09:12
Labour's mouthpiece fear of the Homecoming isn't about money spent, it is simply fear of celebrating anything remotely Scottish because we are all happy to be british don't you know, celebrating Trafalgar etc, how much one wonders do these types of self glory events cost us in taxes?
52

CANUCK,

15/11/2009 16:39:29
In Canada we heard nothing about it -some marketing job.

They need to have some professionsls who know how to promote internationally before asking the Scottish purse to come up with more money.

Just because he is a Lord means squat about organising events.
53

grannie,

Glasgow 15/11/2009 17:23:07
I like lots of other families have my own Gathering when ex family members come home from abroad. Most exiles want to find out about their families (ancestors). I THINK IT'S PRETTY DISTASTEFUL to invite them to come on holiday as a money making exercise.
Sounds like trying to fleece them.
54

Hobbe,

15/11/2009 18:29:20
"I like lots of other families have my own Gathering when ex family members come home from abroad. Most exiles want to find out about their families (ancestors). I THINK IT'S PRETTY DISTASTEFUL to invite them to come on holiday as a money making exercise.
Sounds like trying to fleece them."

Quite a parochial and narrow minded view of how to promote tourism, as if it depends on what one family wishes for.

Away you go.
55

Observer,,

Glasgow 15/11/2009 19:28:46
39 Cheers for the tip off that was hilarious. The more money we fleece of that lot the better - fools and their money are easily parted.

And tourism brings in money for the peasants too Fifi, remember that.

You don't want to cut your nose off to spite your face.
56

Kitti Kat,

Newtown Square 15/11/2009 20:49:11
What does the "ordinary" taxpayer get out of the Homecoming? Other than the business community and the hotels, museums, etc. the down to earth family gets little out of the tourist dollars. Some friends who got tired of hearing me say how beautiful you country is decided to visit this year. They said they were not impressed with Homecoming and preferred to see the historic sights, etc. on their own and said they will return---whe there is no more "homecoming" events .PS: Perhaps Lord Jamie would be willing to kick in some pounds of his own before asking hte taxpayers to shell out. Am sure he has more money than the average person.
57

Kitti Kat,

Newtown Square 15/11/2009 20:54:24
PPS: On my many visits, I have never considered the people who live and work in Scotland as "peasants". I like and respect all of you. I know some of my fellow Americans are very snooty and act superior but believe me, I hope it's not an impression I leave while in Scotland.However, when Trump and his cronies and golfing guests take residence you will really be treated as such.
58

Observer,,

Glasgow 15/11/2009 20:56:47
Erm people who work in hotels, museums, pubs, shops, restaurants, taxi drivers, tour guides, b&b owners, galleries, people who write books, people who manufacture the thingys you get in gift shops, people who make tweed and tartan, people who sell celtic jewellery, etc etc are all down to earth families too.

I think they have every right to expect a wee bung from the tax payer if it's going to promote a market that they can gain from and pay taxes on their earnings so no one really loses out do they.
59

Jimmy Fae the West,

In the Land O' Green Ginger. (HULL) 15/11/2009 21:16:25
Wooohoooo!

The Pro-Scottish celebration has really upset the Anti-Scots!

Just how much of Labour's Poll/Council tax is still owed? I think Labour have failed to collect 400,000,000. (for Unionists, thats 4 hundred Millions) in Scotland.

How much are the Unionists prepared to keep spending to send Asylum seeking children to Scottish prisons?

Having heard Anti-Scot Iain Gray bemoaning the McConnell Saint Andrew's day celebrations in Holyrood.

Five months left of this rag-tag bunch!


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Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 15/11/2009 21:19:05
If 47,000 visitors to the Gathering spent £10.4 mill, that's only 200 quid or so per head - not even a couple of nights at outrageous Edinburgh hotel rates.

But surely, at the end of July, Edinburgh hotels would have been full anyway. So is this really "new" money or is it merely a matter of grabbing credit for what would have come into the city - sorry, City - in any case.

If the intention of the Gathering was to boost Edinburgh's economy (the poor lambs usually don't get much support!), the event should have been held just before or just after the peak holiday season. Then the organisers could genuinely claim to have put more heads on beds - and more money into the economy.
61

Jinselkirk,

15/11/2009 21:58:00
32 Pilrig - nice one!
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roadsafety,

Perth 16/11/2009 11:03:40
The gathering was totally Fantasic. We all bemoan that 'nothing happens to promote Scotland' Lord Semple took up that challange and actually achieved a great result not for his 'private' company but for Scotland.
He set up a company that produced the one major event during the Homecoming year that was totally different.
Travelled the world promoting Scotland's Homecoming to Clan Gatherings and other Scottish society groups in promotional work. A lot which should have been undertaken by the Government both Scottish and U.K. and the various tourist and business agencies.
That a 'private' company has lost money after such brilliant work is sad. But compare that to the benefits achieved and the income brought in now and the future to Scotland. The notice and worldwide contacts and the very many residual long-term benefits.
We should all be thanking the Gathering team for their visin, hard work and dedication on behalf of our country and the 'bean counters' should look at the overall picture of the benefits gained by Scotland both now and in the future of revenue, jobs protected during a recession and potential business in the future.
Where are the voices from the overseas visitors that attended in complaining about the event. There are none!! That should tell it's own story.
As for the website panalba.com it is also a brilliant concept linking the worldwide dispoara. It also answered a lot of questions from those Heritage Scots returning 'Home' and the many aspects of concern from accommodation, social, culture, travel, finance, places to visit etc. Importantly the Gathering team listened to what people attending the HomeComing actually 'wanted'! Certainly a rare occurrance indeed.
My thanks to the PANALBA team for a fantasic period of my life and certainly I hope the success can be built upon.
On the matter of finance I read of the ever increasing costs of the London Olympics, and now the Commonwealth Games and the many other projects that come from the Public
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roadsafety,

Perth 16/11/2009 11:05:15
Continued...

On the matter of finance I read of the ever increasing costs of the London Olympics, and now the Commonwealth Games and the many other projects that come from the Public Purse.
So the costs to the public for the Gathering and the benefits are indeed great value.
I hope that the Gathering and the PANALBA team get both the support needed , public thanks and recognition for a major achievment accommplished on behalf of Scotland.
64

tyson,

Severna Park 16/11/2009 22:55:34
Offer the members of the diaspora Scottish citizenship.
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Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 19/11/2009 02:11:12
Whit an unholy alliaance o' - Lord Snooty and Soapy Salmond. I'd hate tae see the bairns o that union! A taste of the things tae come in an I'ndepeeendence Nooo' Scotland.

Bad enough when the eejits running Scotland (like Soapy Salmond) make an aerse of it all but when they do that on the world stage tae boot, jings! It just a monumental embarrassment and no amount of SNP soapy sales talk will change that fact.

 

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