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Published Date: 27 October 2009
A HISTORIC cobbled street could become a car-free zone under plans being put forward by local campaigners.
The newly formed Friends of the Water of Leith and environmental group Greener Leith both support plans to pedestrianise the Shore.

It follows a council-backed car-free day on the street last month in which local people were given a glimpse of wha
t life would be like without traffic.

Greener Leith, which recently launched the We Love Leith campaign, said the most popular suggestion from locals taking part in an ongoing travel survey was currently to ban traffic from the Shore.

Alastair Tibbitt, chairman of Greener Leith, said: "Pedestrianisation seems to have a huge amount of support among people in Leith. All the research from elsewhere suggests it has economic benefits in that it helps to promote cafe culture.

"If you speak to the owners of bars and restaurants on the Shore, many would be delighted to be able to expand out on to the street."

Mr Tibbitt said that with the current traffic diversions brought in for the tram project there was a bus passing along the Shore once every four minutes.

George Johnson, chairman of the Friends of the Water of Leith, added: "The racket on the cobbles for the people living here is just extraordinary. I'm making a plea for something to be done about that. We would really like to see some form of pedestrianisation in the Water of Leith area.

"We are deeply concerned about the number of trucks, HGVs, cars and now buses coming down the Shore."

Last month cars were banned from the Shore for an afternoon as part of an event to promote more sustainable forms of transport.

The We Love Leith initiative received widespread public support and gained the backing of the city council, which agreed to divert the number 22 bus for the day.

The council recently commissioned a feasibility study looking into plans for a pedestrianised Princes Street for when the trams are up and running.

Councillor Gordon Mackenzie, the city's transport leader, said he had agreed to meet with the Friends of the Water of Leith and local councillor Marjorie Thomas to discuss pedestrianisation.

Last month Greener Leith accused transport chiefs of "ruining" cobbled streets with temporary repairs to potholes.







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  • Last Updated: 27 October 2009 10:49 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

PeterPete,

27/10/2009 12:11:26
I any other European city like Edinburgh, the Shore (esp the bit to the north of Bernard Street) would be pedestrianised and would be a tourist hub as the historic centre of old Leith Docks. But here in Edinburgh it is nothing but a car park.

Just look at this in Copenhagen:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01350/copenhagen-harbour_1350140c.jpg
2

digestive biscuits returns,

27/10/2009 12:17:32
George Johnson, chairman of the Friends of the Water of Leith, added: "The racket on the cobbles for the people living here is just extraordinary...".



Tough cookies George. These cobbled streets have been there a lot longer than any of the residents.

3

Jaco Pastorius,

27/10/2009 12:43:35
Are the "tough cookies" digestives, perhaps?
4

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 12:58:22
#1 - The significant majority of the Nyhaven area that you show is not pedestrianised, yet it still seems to work well. Better traffic management, such as opening up closed off routes and providing close proximity, free parking can have similar effects rather than the usual council taxes / bans on everything.
5

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27/10/2009 13:01:31
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Mr Hankey,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 13:02:00
Myself and three friends had a meal down the shore recently. If the area was turned into a car free zone I doubt we would have sat on a bus for an hour plus to get from Fairmilehead to eat in the area and gone elsewhere instead that had free or metered parking.
7

Pairbs,

Leith 27/10/2009 13:06:35
The only access to my flat's, and several others, private parking space is from the Shore. I agree it would be lovely in principle, but its not going to happen, they cant prevent us from accessing our own land - just like they did on the car free day!!
8

Jaco Pastorius,

27/10/2009 13:07:36
5. No. Please, we're not waiting at all.
9

I should be studying,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 13:15:49
#6 - Would it be a problem to park around the corner and walk the last hundred metres? Or, if, for example, people need wheelchair access I'm sure a pedestrianised scheme could be designed to provide a drop-off.
#7 Likewise, I'm sure a suitably designed scheme could take into account your valid point about access. e.g bollards that rise up and down for residents. A pedestrian zone doesn't necessarily mean car free zone.
10

Big Fi,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 13:24:22
Why waste time on something that'll never happen? We need to make space for more, bigger cars.
11

PaulB,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 13:34:28
Amazing the stories journos can come up with just from a Greener Leith email which was sent out last week :)
12

Davy,

Leith 27/10/2009 14:37:29
Leith campaigners & Greener Leith & Friends of the Water of Leith represent themselves not the, people of Leith. This all sounds good, what they are doing.
The reality is they are interfering in the lives of the people of Leith as greeny’s & liberal policies do. They just don’t realise the harm the pc policies they try to force upon us have. They want a world full of cotton wool, that is not going to happen. What is happening, are more politically correct rules, & a total disrespect for anyone, with different views or opinions. They are bullies. Leave Leith alone; get your own house in order first.
13

antifa,

27/10/2009 14:44:18
12 - what the hell are you blethering on about? What is PC about this? And what exactly would be the harm?
14

Jaco Pastorius,

27/10/2009 14:51:25
I would like a world full of cotton wool. I think that would be quite interesting.
15

Davy,

Leith be-warned, beware 27/10/2009 15:00:37
#13 antifa
If you do not know or understand, the harm has already been done. We need less oppression & more civil liberties. Which the pc brigade, greeny’s & liberal are determined to take from us. Every move they make is political be-warned, beware before it’s too late.
16

Mallory,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 15:11:34
Next thing the bikies will want the cobbles removed so that they don't get sore bums
17

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 27/10/2009 15:32:21
We need more cobbled streets as it will cut down on the mad would be F1 drivers.
18

digestive biscuits returns,

27/10/2009 15:50:26
As well as making and repairing shoes, do cobblers build and repair cobbled streets?
19

antifa,

27/10/2009 16:43:16
15 - thanks. Don't know if you remember this but we were talking about pedestrianisation in Leith. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe see a shrink.
20

Davy,

Leith Nut House we have a place for you 27/10/2009 17:05:30
#19 antifa,
Thank you, quality comment.
Just seen the shrink he would also like to see you.
For you Anti-fascist activities. He said the Anti-fascist, need to stop being fascist. Then they can start to be Anti-fascist. Until then the masses will only regard them as thugs, bully boy greeny’s, global warming freaks, with terribly violent natures. Who really need locked up.
21

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27/10/2009 17:19:44
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Greener Leith,

Leith 27/10/2009 17:21:38
Vote on proposals to help people walk, cycle or take public transport in Leith, or suggest your own ideas at: http://weloveleith.uservoice.com/
23

Saughton Sid,

27/10/2009 18:01:58
And where to you expect the flash git's park their 30 grand motors ?
24

Mother of Child Turned away,

The Shore 27/10/2009 18:16:31
As much as it would be nice to stop all traffic on The Shore & I live right on the Shore, I actually do not agree with this what-so-ever.
I am a single mother of a disabled daughter in a wheelchair & it ain't just a wheelchair that I need to push it's everything else that comes along with a disabled child/person. Therefore if there is no traffic allowed on the Shore then how could I possibly get home as I wouldn't manage.
I tell you what needs to be done, permit holders only or pay & display machines. I come back from work around 5pm after collecting my daughter & I cannot even get a parking space in my own street as folk from all the businesses around have to find somewhere to park their flashy cars. Where they going to park them if the no traffic on the Shore was to happen.
Ridiculous idea if I have to say so myself. Should never happen I am so not for that.
25

Davy,

This could be reported as unsuitable 27/10/2009 18:17:44
#22 Greener Leith
You want us to vote on proposals to help people walk, cycle or take public transport in Leith. Why when you have a car. Or are you just trying to boost number’s of the Lady’s, of the night. For they will know we are now all walking. So there are more people, which would mean more punters. Also if we have more people waking about, than has been in the past it could mean more assaults better chances for the thug to roll you. This would be one way of keeping the crime figures up. Yes another green liberal policy.

26

Disco Inferno,

Edinburgh 27/10/2009 19:58:55
The only folk that would benefit from this idea are the pubs and restaurants and the members of the two groups who will see it as some kind of victory. Meanwhile, the people who actually live on or around The Shore will have to live with the consequencies. I live a stones throw from The Shore and I'm concerned that the Council will fall for the tree huggers (sorry,not very PC) arguments and go ahead with this plan. Perhaps they'll go one step further and even route a Tram down The Shore? Oh no, I've mentioned the 'T' word!
27

Robbierunciman,

Romney Marsh 27/10/2009 23:27:27
why is it that the people who bang on about car access all seem to live in nice quiet rural villages or cul-de-sacs off main roads and not on the main road itself? oh, yes, too noisy and dirty because of cars!

28

Davy,

Leith 28/10/2009 00:54:42
#27 Robbierunciman
I know 2 middle aged space cadets who are involved in this nonsense. You are 100 percent correct about their residents.
29

PeterPete,

29/10/2009 22:17:40
The car is king and any attempt to infringe on someone's right to drive and park where and when they want is evil.

It is a well known fact that car drivers are incapable of walking into a shop and therefore we should encourage drive through shops and cafes. Without this the economy will suffer as nobody in their right mind would go to any location where they cannot park right outside.

Anybody who suggests otherwise is a BNP voting Green Party member who subscribes to Living Marxism and wears cashmere. Anybody without a car is a second rate citizen whose views don't count. And it is a fact that tourists and shoppers and visitors would much rather spend their time in a car park than having somewhere nice to visit.

Or am I wrong? It is probably a myth that business on pedestrianised streets and which depend on tourism/retail see business boom compared to pre-pedestrianisation.

 

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