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Islands seek wind farm back-up project



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Published Date: 29 January 2008
WESTERN Isles Council is seeking an urgent meeting with the Scottish Government to discuss "effective and alternative investment" for the islands if a controversial wind farm is rejected.
The Government indicated last week it is "minded to refuse" Lewis Wind Power's (LWP) plans for a 181-turbine development, although a final decision has yet to be made.

The news was welcomed by environmentalists, but disappointed Comhairle nan Eile
an Siar, which sees the project bringing much-needed employment to the islands.

In a letter to Alex Salmond, the First Minister, the council convener, Alex Macdonald, says rejection would be "the wrong decision for the Western Isles, for renewable energy and for Scotland".

He says a negative decision would imply the Western Isles is "closed for renewable energy business in future, and that environmental considerations are the principal, and dominant, factor in considering applications for renewable energy developments in the Western Isles".

Mr Macdonald says the need for sustainable economic growth is particularly acute in the Outer Hebrides.

He says if the plan is refused, the council and ministers should meet urgently to discuss the implications "and to explore how Government and other partners can assist in the provision of effective and alternative investment to address what the comhairle believes would be a lost opportunity".

The council will also press the European Union this week to back the wind farm.

Angus Campbell, the council's vice-convener, left last night for Brussels, where he will be one of the key speakers when the EU launches Sustainable Energy Week.

Mr Campbell will highlight the need for renewable energy schemes such as the LWP proposal to be given the go-ahead if Scotland, the UK and the EU are to meet their renewable energy targets. He said that European designations were never supposed to stop all development in rural and sparsely populated island communities, "although that is precisely what seems to be happening".

Yesterday, representatives of the council met Jim Mather, the energy minister, to discuss the economic situation in the Western Isles.

Mr Campbell said: "Obviously the minister couldn't comment on the specific LWP application, but he listened carefully to what we had to say about the socio-economic challenges that the islands face. It was a constructive meeting and paves the way for continued dialogue with the minister and the Scottish Government."

Meanwhile, the John Muir Trust urged the Government to reject the wind farm plans to protect Lewis's tourism industry. Nigel Hawkins, its chief executive, said: "These turbines, together with their supporting roads and pylons, will ruin one of Scotland's finest tourist destinations."

The trust says about 200,000 people visit the islands every year, with tourism contributing 15 per cent of the economic output. It says the long-term damage to tourism outweighs any short-term economic benefits.



The full article contains 474 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Guga II,

29/01/2008 05:31:48
This whole project in Lewis is based on a blatant lie, or, to be more precise, a series of blatant lies.

There may be 400 jobs on offer during the construction phase, but most of these jobs will go to people from outwith the islands; probably Poles as they can, and do, exploit them by paying them less than the going rate.

As for the alleged 70 ongoing jobs that will become available, that is also utter rubbish. In the large scheme they built in Wales, there are only 3 full time ongoing jobs, and only one of them has gone to a local.

The people in the islands will not benefit in any way from the construction of these monstrosities. They will not get a halfpenny extra in their pocket, and they will not get cheaper electricity. The power from this scheme will be sold to England, and the profits will go to foreigners also.

These towers will be 487 feet high, and the proposal was for 187 of them spread out over an area the size of greater London. They will be blight on the landscape, and will not even be able to be utilised for a high percentage of the time because the winds will be too strong for them to operate.

Ignoring the numpties in the Comhairle, the majority of the people (90% at the last poll taken)do not want, or need to have these monstrosities despoiling their island, especially when they will have no benefit from them. There is a lot to be said for bringing back annual elections for councils, otherwise these overpaid and underworked numpties will continue to do things against the wishes of the people, as well as swanning off on jaunts to the continent. They should also remember that the church will not protect them, or ensure their re-election forever.

As for Alex MacDonald, the Convenor, he is thinking of finally standing down. It is time he did if he is going to continue to ignore the wishes of the majority of the islanders.

If they want to increase the population and the economy of the islands, the only way is to have Sunday ferries,
2

Guga II,

Rockall 29/01/2008 05:33:27
(Continued)

and Road Equivalent Tariff (RET) on the ferries. Not by blighting the landscape for the benefit of foreigners.
3

Mirrorman,

In the night garden 29/01/2008 07:10:04
180 odd turbines at nearly 500 feet high spread over an area the size of Greater London?......that's a tourist attraction in itself. At least you'd be guaranteed a sighting rather than spending hours freezing your ar*e off looking for whales.

4

Agent 99,

Cone of Silence 29/01/2008 07:11:19
"Islands seek wind farm back-up project"

See - despite what all the windy lot will tell you, windfarms need backup.

Guga [1] is right. We have several windfarms in the Borders. They employ practically no one. Turbines and local switchgear can be monitored and controlled remotely. The Bowbeat faciltiy near Peebles is managed by a German company and employs a couple of locals to fix fences. That's it. Unfortunately I dont have the developers proposal before me to compare what they promised with today's sorry situation.

The idea of 'sustainable' development for the Outer Hebrides coming from windfarms is a joke. The developers are having a laugh. Sustainable has recently become known as something that requires continual subsidy; cynical but remarkable close to the truth. The influx of a [very] small army of construction workers cannot be compared with the building of the canals and railways a couple of centuries ago. No doubt they will be just as wild, but don't have the critical mass to bring about any permanent change to the local employment market.

The same could probably be said for the Trump golf course/mini town.

AMEC's promises are not so far removed from the beads and trinkets given to native Africans by the colonists, and look how that ended up.
5

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 29/01/2008 07:57:04
The Western Isles remain hostile to any innovations whether its Lever's fish factories, the super quarry or these fans. I suggest the islands are left to work out their own destinies and that includes withdrawing ferry and farming subsidies, the army, and so on. We should all stand on our own feet. Let them see how much revenue can be generated by the return of the chess pieces to Uig or the expansion of Harris Tweed.
6

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29/01/2008 08:08:25
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fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 29/01/2008 08:13:51
Guga advises us it is too windy on Lewis for a windfarm. Apparently it rains all the time as well. And you can't do anything on a Sunday. Why would anyone want to live in such a place?
8

donald,

glasgow 29/01/2008 08:14:38
There is enough wind from Brian Wilson to blow Parkheid and the Islands away to London.
9

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 29/01/2008 08:42:12
Further research shows that Guga has been telling porkies by claiming that the wind on Lewis is too strong for the turbines.
Met Office records show that the average wind speed in Stornoway varies from 10knots in January to 15knots in August. This the ideal range for wind turbines.

See: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/19611990/sites/stornoway.html
10

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 29/01/2008 09:19:08
DfB: It's a pity you feel the need to resort to verbal abuse when you have lost the argument.
11

Deeko,

29/01/2008 09:27:38
So we can have a golf course but not a windfarm...
12

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 29/01/2008 09:36:20
Guga II:
"I assume you must be one of these foreigners from down south, so maybe you should consider heading home"

Guga II - you really are a nasty, racist, bigoted, parochial little xenophobe aren't you? Anyone born in England, Wales or Northern Ireland is a citizen of the United Kingdom and is entitled to make his or her 'home' anywhere within the sovereign territory of the UK. Just as anyone born in Scotland is welcome to make his home in England - including currently most members of the UK government. The idea that Scotland is a separate 'country' is merely a myth fostered by the nats. Do you tell all resident Poles, Pakistanis, Chinese, Indians and Jamaicans to 'go home' if and when you come across them in your wee parish? Oh that would be racist I suppose?
13

Gothic Rose,

29/01/2008 09:47:48
Tweedmouth 17# Re your second paragraph,Are you saying that Scotland is but a region within the U.K.?
14

sam the god,

29/01/2008 10:38:00
181 turbines just think of all the birds that will die as a result of them.

Lets hear the comments from the likes of Doreen,ignorant townie and bald eagle who are so out spoken about bird deaths
15

George.,

29/01/2008 11:06:31
Average score in the the Leinster v Leicester was 17 each however Leinster were beaten by 16 points. Average wind speeds mean nothing when looking at the viability of a wind farm.
16

Doh,

29/01/2008 11:11:14
Back Up Project??

I have got and idea.

What about a nuclear power station?

Jobs, free energy (to cheap to even meter) and best of all maybe we could get Trump to build it.

Lucky we are led by Ecky Trump the man with a plan.
17

George.,

29/01/2008 11:26:16
Lawrence Livermore, Los Alamos, and Argonne national laboratories are designing a self-contained nuclear reactor with tamper-resistant features. Called SSTAR (small, sealed, transportable, autonomous reactor), this next-generation reactor will produce 10 to 100 megawatts electric and can be safely transported on ship or by a heavy-haul transport truck.
http://www.eurekalert.org/features/doe/2004-07/dlnl-net071204.php
18

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 29/01/2008 11:50:02
No hard feelings, but as the islands are about to be sunk under rising seas what's the point of building anything but arks there?
19

Calum Crubag,

29/01/2008 11:59:08
#5 - good point. Plus, how about community owned windfarms that make energy firstly for the islands and any surplus can be sold to the national grid.

#9 - true. It is reputed that the warm air from the Gulf Stream is a myth. It all comes from Brian Wilson. His red jakie face could power Torness too.
20

Geomac 1,

Kinross 29/01/2008 12:53:46
Why don't Mr McDonald and his fellow councillors get off their backsides and set about improving the sustainable economy of the Western Isles - after all that's what they get paid (plus pensions) for! is it not?
Good suggestion #21 Doh!! Hehe
#18 Gothic Rose - according to the EU, which the SNP wish us to be subservient to, say that Scotland (like Wales and Ireland and the 8 English regions) is indeed a region of the UK!!
#9 Donald - like all politicians Briam Wilson is somewhat windy BUT he did admit that wind developers earn more from the ROC subsidies that they so from selling the actual electricity!! And he should know as he's a boards member of such a developer!!
21

Calum Crubag,

29/01/2008 14:45:49
#23 - i think large parts of England will go under before we do.
22

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 29/01/2008 16:04:30
Dave the Barraboy accuses me of being a NIMBY while exhibiting that trait himself to a high degree. He has pestered me with the suggestion that wind turbines should be erected in our fair capital.
Actually, I would not be against this as I like these tall elegant gently turning highly efficient generators. As to location I feel that Platinum Point would be ideal. It projects out into the Forth and probably gets a fair bit of wind.
Other brown field locations might be available such as the Seafield sewage farm. Dave would like that; it processes a lot of stuff of the kind he regurgitates. (see post #12)
23

GP,

29/01/2008 16:53:57
23# Dave- ignore that idiot he does not even stay in Scotland never mind understand what above sea level means.
I agree with Guga 1# the wind farm is a waste of space and will not provide many if any jobs at all. The local council would do better to get it's act together and instead of asking for subsidised short term jobs encourage inward investment and real job creation from new technology ventures. Perhaps some of those who left ot better themselves would return and stand for council positions - that would probably have the greatest impact.
24

Neil,

Glasgow 29/01/2008 18:02:08
Since the IPCC now prophesy a sea level rise of 15 inches it seems Rules & suchlike idiots will be apologising for all the scare stories they have ben pushing about usScotland disappearing. Or perhaps they won't & will keep on with this lie while waiting for a better eco-fascist scare to appear.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."Henry Louis Mencken...
25

Greenheatman,

TAIN 29/01/2008 23:06:17
"Met Office records show that the average wind speed in Stornoway varies from 10knots in January to 15knots in August. This the ideal range for wind turbines"

What drivel! The ideal operational wind speed for a new generation wind turbine is 12m/s or about 24knots. Only at this wind speed will it generate at full capacity. At 12 knots it will generate at 1/8 of full capacity (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/8) because shaft power varies with the cube of wind speed.

Not rocket science - but it helps to showe just how pathetic these wind turbines are!
26

danielrober,

29/01/2008 23:55:19
# 17 Tweedmouth,Coldstream

I'd carm down a little. Maybe take a walk in the hills or go fishing on your great river. There's no need for such language. If environmental projects are to be sucessful then the locals must support the scheme. Dropping projects on top of locals waste billions in the late 20th centuy. Lets not repeat the past mistakes.

International engineering may move at the speed it moves at, but that matters little if all your going to get is bad publicity. There really can be a middle ground, with a limitted development.

More speed less haste and maybe asking the locals what they want.
27

Friend of Lewis,

06/02/2008 08:36:42
The title of this article is deliberately misleading. It gives the impression - as do some other articles written in the Scotsman on the subject of the Lewis Wind Farm - that the ‘Islands’ in the Western Isles want the massive wind farms. Polls on Lewis show overwhelming disapproval of the project/s. It would be interesting to know exactly how much the Councillors of the Western Isles stand to benefit financially out of the deal - legally or illegally - and how many businessmen stand to lose capital invested in the projects with no care for the island or its people. The shortcomings of wind energy are not even worth mentioning anymore, they are so well known. May God save the Isle of Lewis.

 

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