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Published Date: 09 July 2009
A NEW factory could be built on the outskirts of Kilmarnock to encourage drinks firm Diageo to retain its links with the Ayrshire town.
The idea was proposed by Scottish Secretary Jim Murphy yesterday in face-to-face talks at the Scotland Office in London with Diageo chief executive Paul Walsh.

The firm is proposing to close its bottling plant in Kilmarnock and transfer the work e
lsewhere, placing 700 jobs at risk. It claims the plant's old-fashioned operations make the task of bottling less cost-effective than at other sites.

Scottish Enterprise, the regeneration quango funded by the Scottish Government, is pulling together options to encourage Diageo to remain in Kilmarnock. This will be based on figures Diageo has promised to pass to an independent third party to allow cost-effective proposals to be made, while retaining the company's commercially confidential secrets.

This business case is expected to be put to Diageo when First Minister Alex Salmond meets Mr Walsh on 22 July.

Mr Murphy said he received assurances from Mr Walsh that the company was "genuinely open to suggestions" on how to reconfigure its operations north of the Border.

Mr Murphy proposed Scottish Enterprise funded a new plant, with East Ayrshire Council speeding through planning permission.

But this could only go ahead if Diageo, which made a global profit of around £1.6 billion last year, offered to guarantee a set number of jobs in return for the public investment.

Mr Murphy said no figures were discussed as the proposal was in its infancy but they would have to be "substantial".

He told Mr Walsh: "To have nothing in Kilmarnock would be a denial of your heritage – walking away from a town you have had contact with since 1820."

The Scottish Secretary admitted that Diageo "would have to be incentivised to stay" but said Mr Walsh showed a willingness to look at all the options.

Mr Murphy said: "I said, 'People are now debating your commitment to Scotland'. He said, 'It's more expensive to be in Scotland but we are going to stay in Scotland'."

Mr Murphy is due to meet John Swinney, the SNP finance minister who is regarded as key to finding a solution, today. Discussions will follow on Monday with Scottish Enterprise.

MPs of all parties are seeking to play the "heritage card" by convincing Diageo that Johnnie Walker would be a less attractive brand if it had no remaining links with Kilmarnock.







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  • Last Updated: 08 July 2009 9:06 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Diageo , Scotsman Whisky
 
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Nevsky;,

Moscow 08/07/2009 23:44:06
Murphy will save nothing as he has NO power. If any new factory is put in place then it will be the SNP Government that legislate for it.

More votes for the SNP.

On a serious note...whoever is involved in saving jobs deserves praise..but i am beginning to suspect that Diageo are playing a clever game here.

Seems suddenly they are open to offers with new factories being mentioned? This seems like holding Scotland to ransom...i feel the boot should be on the other foot.
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Alan B,

09/07/2009 00:10:13
I really do not understand Murphys position. He seems to be offering something that he cannot deliver as he has no responsibility for scottish enterprise which is run at arms lenght by the scottish government.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 00:22:05


Diageo!, have made their intentions clear in the first instance, this will be their end goal, we have all seen and witnessed similar scenario's before.
We are now in 'the-all-talk', but 'no-action' chapter, and just like some of our car industries, and Banks, the 'Final-Curtain' approaches.

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The Strategist,

09/07/2009 00:31:16
Murphy has no control over Scottish Enterprise.
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Electric Hermit,

09/07/2009 01:27:17
Murphy represents the UK government, not the Scottish government. If he agrees to bribe Diageo with new premises, then it should be the UK government that pays.

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Jimmy Fae the West,

Hull 09/07/2009 01:28:52
#2 Walrus. How will you feel if Mr Murphy's cunning plan includes building the private factory next to his private Prison and replacing the workforce with the ne'er do well inhabitants of Bow prison? I am of course being flipant as Mr Murphy has as much control of these matters as Lord Floukes has of his bowels.
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Edward,

09/07/2009 01:38:28
Interesting same Journalist on the stitch up story
definately a Labour push to put the SNP on the back foot. Smear the First Minister and have the same person who arranged the stitch up to look like some saviour of jobs. Very clever, but no coconut winner
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Am Fògarrach,

09/07/2009 01:39:22
Quote from Murphy: "I said, 'People are now debating your commitment to Scotland'. He said, 'It's more expensive to be in Scotland but we are going to stay in Scotland'."

Who are we? or is Murphy using the "royal we"? In any case, it might not be more expensive for Diageo to stay in Scotland if Murphy can get it through their heads that its customers might not treat its whisky as true Scotch.
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tartangladbach,

edinburgh 09/07/2009 02:23:01
murphy trying trying to save his seat by adopting the gordon brown approach of "i saved the world" more "poor" spin doctoring, that my granny could spot. jim it's over, get the cv sorted out! labour in control of scotland for 50 years? delivered? pheck all! but poverty & misery while supporting their bank accounts. GTF
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Ewan Randall,

09/07/2009 03:06:26
Do people not think that if Jim Murphy had gone onto a prime time tv show instead of taking the meeting with the Diageo chief, as the First Minister, that questions would have been asked?
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donald,

glasgow 09/07/2009 05:51:59
Murphy has been watching River City, where one Cooncillor played a dirty trick on a candidate, forcing her to cut a public meeting short.

Diago/Guinness was allowed to steal Scottish Distilleries by fraud, forcing the closure of some well known brands in Scotland. This makes Labour the perfect ally for Lord Guinness of the Monday Club. Unity is a disgrace and the perfect Tame Union for the bosses.
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Douglas,

Bathgate 09/07/2009 07:44:52
Surely not another multi national getting our money by the barrow load, giving promises to have a long term future in Scotland the f***ing off as soon as minimum condtions are met.
No no, politicians are too honest and clever to fall for that one yet again.
Now pass me my Motorola phone till I call about this problem with my HP computer that I paid for on an NCR till whist checking my Timex watch etc.
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john z,

edinburgh 09/07/2009 08:01:41
Jim P(m)uppet Murphy, is not part of the Scottish government. He should keep out of this, as he has absolutely no power to create a new factory. His remit is to sit in the english embassy to Scotland, and produce soundbites bashing the SNP.

I'm sorry, but the people of Kilmarnock deserve better than this third rate politician trying to interfere in Scottish government business. If Jim Murphy wants to join the Scottish government then he should stand for election to it.

This is a serious issue, and it is sad to see London Labour rushing round trying to quite deliberately undermine the Scottish Government at every turn.

Jim Murphy should no better - he has no power to do anything regarding Kilmarnock, and he knows it. He is just playing games. A very silly man.
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john z,

edinburgh 09/07/2009 08:05:48
The problem is, that Jim p(m)uppet Murphy, in his desperate attempts to undermine the Scottish Government, will also undermine the strong case being brought forward by that same Scottish Government.

Please stop interfering Jim, you will screw it up for everyone involved in this. It really, really, has nothing to do with you.

To Murphy, it is all about winning votes rather than saving jobs. Tumshie.
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 09/07/2009 08:36:45
So it looks like Murphy had a meeting with Diageo in London to tell them that the Scottish Government will will provide a solution.

So that's what the Scottish Office is for!!!

They act as a messenger boy for Sir Ek.

I have to admit though, they are a bit expensive, and he could probably cut costs by doing away with them.

Pathetic state of affairs when Labour. aided and abetted by the Hootsman, seem more interested in scoring points over the SNP than fighting for jobs.
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carrottop,

Dumfries 09/07/2009 08:38:17
Diageo must have been aware for years that their bottling plant was not up to it. As a very large company they will plan many years ahead and any modernisation of other plants would be done in the knowledge that Kilmarnock production would be moving site.

This is either the actions of a very cynical company who couldn't care less about the Scottish that goes before Whisky or its a very devious ploy to screw redevelopment money out of the Scottish/Westminster governments.

Maybe the Scottish government should decide who is allowed to put Scottish before the Whisky by making the companies, who make a fortune out of a national product, adhere to a certain code of conduct in their production of the item.

They cannot succeed in the whisky business without the "Scottish" on the label so let them think a little about what it means to be Scottish.
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gus1940,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 08:42:15
If one thing is certain there are 2 people who will be joining the millions of unemployed next year and their names are J Murphy and D. Browne.

However, no doubt they will quickly be in receipt of non-elected sinecures at the trough.
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letmein,

paisley 09/07/2009 09:19:51
The walrus was paul, or rufus or pretzel logic.Why dont you just post on the daily rectum like the rest of your unionist pals.
The Scottish media better change their tack or they will lose support of a vast majority of the clever people in Scotland. Not the ones who believe that Jim Murphy is interested in saving Scottish jobs. He is only interested in having a go at the SNP with the aid of the Scottish media. They are behaving like a banana republic run media.
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letmein,

paisley 09/07/2009 09:22:40
Rab the ranter.
You obviously dont read the joined up writing newspapers who have been telling everyone about a plan conceived by the SNP to save the jobs. Organised by John Swinney. Dont believe everything you read in this rag, or the daily rectum.
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thinking,

Scotland 09/07/2009 09:36:48
7 Electric Hermit
'it should be the UK government that pays.'
The problem is that there is no such thing as Government money, Scottish or UK, only taxpayer's money.
Why should taxpayers pay to have a factory built for any business, let alone a multinational business?
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JimC,

Kilmarnock 09/07/2009 09:38:30
I have a lot of concerns about the way things are developing. Within 24 hours of the initial announcement, Brian Donohoe and Des Browne were blaming the SNP, now the unions are getting in on the act. Murphy is looking to poke his nose in. Personally I have other questions about all the rumour that is flying around. Any new plant regardless of where it is located will mean a loss of jobs, how can Fife do the same job with 400 workers when it takes 700 in Kilmarnock, the answer is new automated machinery. And remember 300 jobs in Killie are of the temporary contract nature with some people being in this position for years. Why were the unions not addressing those issues? Why move your plant 80 miles north when all exports need to be transported south? I don’t think we have the full story here, much has to be discovered if only Labour stopped their party political point scoring and started doing their job we might get some answers.
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letmein,

Paisley 09/07/2009 09:47:15
#26. Do you really know what is going on? Put out the lights and relax.
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letmein,

Paisley 09/07/2009 09:53:27
Rab, I did read what you wrote. You seem to have missed the part where John Swinney is quietly going about his business, delivering a package to save the jobs. Not scoring political points like Murphy and Browne. Or indeed not slagging anyone off.
Now read everything before calling anyone a clown.
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Wee Fifer,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 10:45:12
Too much posturing from these Labour guys, I would be annoyed by the union man if it was my union for getting in on this. Labour want to turn any story into this type of thing in their evident desperation to get at Alex Salmond. Des Browne opened this up by attacking the SNP - not exactly focusing on the issue at hand.
The real story is that Labour in 12 years have no useful answers to this type of globalisation offshoring scenario. In essence they believe that it is OK for multinational companies to do what they like and go around wrecking things - it's a matter for the company.
The truth is that glorious private enterprises have us all by the...
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Electric Hermit,

09/07/2009 11:01:04
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thinking

"The problem is that there is no such thing as Government money, Scottish or UK, only taxpayer's money."

There are, however, separate budgets. And if Murphy is promising handouts then those handouts should come from the budget of the government he represents.

He does not represent the Scottish government.

"Why should taxpayers pay to have a factory built for any business, let alone a multinational business?"

Damned good question. But so long as these corporate leeches are able to play governments off against one another the governments are going to have the hard choice between giving in to blackmail or seeing people lose their jobs.
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Tris,

09/07/2009 11:44:18
#35 Electric Hermit. Well said. The company obviously sees a way of getting cash handouts from both governments, as they rush about, both, in fairness, trying to save jobs, but both trying to make sure that THEY are the ones that offer the solution that does that, and can claim the credit for electoral purposes.

All the company has to do is to keep asking for more, and play them off against each other. And of course, the more successful they are the more other companies will be looking at this and thinking how much they could profit from it.
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Rob me blind,

Peterhead 09/07/2009 11:50:50
Lets face it they only have to produce the stuff here it can be bottled anywhere in the world but it will alys remain Scotch. So if Diageo want to open a bottling plant in Poland who is going to stop them NO ONE!
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Lianachan,

Highlands 09/07/2009 13:23:52
I see we're not allowed to comment on ol' Shagger Hudson.
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Jimmy Fae the West,

Land O' Green Ginger! 09/07/2009 14:23:17
#37 So long as we have a centralised Labour/Conservative pact in LondON covering it's back in the South East of England, there is indeed no one to stop any exploitative companies asset stripping Scotland.

However, an independent Scottish government given the tools could negotiate with anyone whilst holding the very real threat of nationalising the Scotch industry as an incentive just as quick as the London government nationalised the financial industry and the Bank of England. It seems that the Unionist Scotland haters are happier to see the undemocratic LondON assembly with far more powers than the wholly democratically elected Scottish one?
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HughB,

Edinburgh 09/07/2009 15:10:37
Jim Murphy is not part of of government.

The headline is totally misleading.

If Murphy is trying to make offers on behalf of Scotland, then he had better clear it with OUR Government first, or else he can pay for any plans he puts forward.
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Jimmy Fae the West,

Land O' Green Ginger! 09/07/2009 15:36:56
# 40. Quite right he is part of the Scottish executive which has been proscribed redundant by the London government when Helen Liddel thwarted the Scottish people. The next Scottish Executive of David Cameron is to employ Michael Gove member for Surrey Heath who will be the next Jim Murphy and he will enforce his wicked plot to privatise all education but for al but the poorest regardless of the protestations of the Scottish people. And Mr Cameron has already threatened, even before he assumes power in LondON that he will dismantle the Scottish parliament, the Scottish government and the settled will of the Scottish people if they dare to obstruct his diktat over them/you/us.
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Geomac 1,

Scotland 09/07/2009 16:25:26
On one hand the government wants to curtail drinking alcohol and on the other they are offering bribes to support whisky producers.
Hardly joined up government!!!???
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letmein,

paisley 09/07/2009 16:54:40
Rab the Ranter- I must have upset you. I am no party hack, but I hate labour with a passion. They are not interested in the people working for Diageo, they are only interested in scoring political points over the SNP,who I think are doing a good job for Scotland.
If you call people Klowns then take your medecine.
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Jimmy Fae the West,

Land O' Green Ginger! 09/07/2009 17:02:48
You are also confusing your Scottish government with the obstructive Scottish executive.

The Scottish Government wants to restrict young people from destroying their livers, brains and asphyxiating on their vomit whilst the Scottish executive want to increase the amount of young Scots dying from alcohol poisoning.

The Scottish government wanted to implement the Calman recommendations, the Scottish executive have rejected them.

The Scottish government want to save Scottish jobs and services, the Scottish executive are cutting both.

You have the choice of voting for a Scottish government or the London based Scottish executive. Why anyone would want to vote for an executive that is cutting five hundred millions from Scottish public services budget whilst promising they will not cut any English public services is beyond my understanding. Leaving aside the immorality of spending millions every day on illegal wars.
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The Col. of Monte Cristo,

09/07/2009 20:23:26
Diagio made £1.6 Billion profit last year, is making Scottish workers redundant and is hinting about a further withdrawal fron Scotland...and Murphy wants to give them a free factory
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Jimmy Fae the West,

Land O' Green Ginger! 09/07/2009 21:21:23
In August last year Diageo attacked the Scottish government for their plans to raise the limit of Diageo's victim/customer base to 21. Diageo wants to continue slaughtering our children on the roads, so does the LondON government. Diageo wants to continue to fill our A&E wards with children each weekend, so too do the LondON government. Less than twelve months after this debate we have Diageo in collusion with the LondON government to pervert Scottish democracy in an underhand act of dark propaganda. You Scots must expect and prepare for far worse than these tactics to retain the union.

Both Cameron and Brown vowed to do EVERYTHING to defend the union. These war crime allies meant *everything*!
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 09/07/2009 23:56:51
It's just not worth trying to bribe Diageo, Jim. They have the measure of you and you're walking right into their trap. This is the sort of thing you should leave to Scottish "Enterprise" who have been doing this sort of con-job for decades. Where "Enterprise" equates to "government money to look good".

 

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