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Fuel fight bikers plan Capital jam



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Published Date: 25 June 2008
MOTORCYCLISTS from across Scotland are set to bring disruption to the streets of the Capital this weekend in a protest over the rising cost of fuel.
Organisers are hoping hundreds of bikers will take part in Saturday's convoy, which follows a similar protest by lorry drivers earlier this month.

The action is being staged by motorcycle club Fife Bikers, which says its members are growing increa
singly "fed up" of prices at the pumps. The protest is expected to travel from Kinross, over the Forth Road Bridge and around the city bypass, before finishing at the Grassmarket.

A spokesman for the group said: "The rising cost of fuel affects everybody. The focus is always on the lorry drivers – the guy on the street with a car or motorbike is not being listened to.

"We feel it's about time that someone got off their backside and did something about it. We're not out to cause absolute mayhem on the roads but we do want people to sit up and take notice."

Bruce Young, a spokesman for the British Drivers' Association, said he hoped the protest would help force a government re-think on fuel duty and would be widely welcomed by Edinburgh's motorists. He said: "There is only one way now of making feelings heard and that is by staging a protest such as this. I would be quite happy just to stand on the pavement clapping."

But the Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM) said the stunt would have little impact. Spokesman Neil Greig said: "Direct action of this nature has virtually no effect on government policy. They are only going to hold up other road-users. While everybody has sympathy and would like to see cheaper fuel prices, we feel that effective lobbying is much more likely to have an impact on government policy.

"Everybody is affected by fuel prices – even if you don't have a car – because everything in shops has been taken there by road. If you carry on down this route everybody could be protesting."

A spokeswoman for Lothian and Borders Police said: "We will work with the organisers to facilitate a safe protest and minimise disruption to other road-users."





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  • Last Updated: 25 June 2008 10:46 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

charliecha cha,

25/06/2008 11:51:37
another bunch of unwashed wasters causing chaos on the streets of the capital.
2

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 12:10:15
"If you carry on down this route everybody could be protesting."

Which is precisely what should be happening.

#1:

I hope you meet a crowd of these "unwashed wasters" on a dark night in a remote location and are stupid enough to express your daft "opinions" to them.

However, cowards like you are only likely to say such rubbish under the protection of the anonymity of a web site.
3

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 12:15:28
Fuel duty is set by the UK government so protesting in Edinburgh is a complete waste of time.
4

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25/06/2008 12:18:03
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5

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 12:18:27
plus 3 has a rather good point.
6

Scotish Exile,

25/06/2008 12:23:42
will achieve nowt, stay in fife and do us all a favour
7

Fed up with getting ripped off,

Dunfermline 25/06/2008 12:27:03
Self obsessed idiots? unwashed wasters? never grown up?

do us all a favour and come down to the grassmarket on Saturday afternoon and be sure to make youselves know.... would love to have a chat.....
8

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25/06/2008 12:29:59
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9

My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 25/06/2008 12:33:04
Self-obsessed idiots indeed. And pig-ignorant when it comes to the facts. In real terms, the price of fuel has actually FALLEN over the past decade. It is still far, far, too cheap relative to public transport - the real price of which has not fallen over the past decade.

The government actually wants people to drive their fuel-swilling beasts - it's more revenue for the Treasury and means less pressure on obtaining it through other means.

If these self-serving, knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers had half a brain - which is a big if, I know - they'd be lobbying the manufacturers of their precious machines to make them more fuel efficient.
10

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 12:34:46
The only idiots here are Mario, Alex Patterson and Charlie Cha Cha.

They are all too short-sighted to see how the criminally high fuel prices in this country are slowly ruining the economy.

Why don't you go back to nursery school chaps and go play on the swings and slide?
11

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 12:35:27
Oh, and include #9 in that too.
12

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 12:47:15
7 Thanks for proving the point.

are you going to bring along some toys to throw out your pram as well ?
13

SS,

25/06/2008 12:49:42
"If these self-serving, knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers had half a brain - which is a big if, I know" and "another bunch of unwashed wasters "

What utter prejudice being spoken - its usually bad on here, but I've never seen it this bad..... biggoted muppets.

Bikers come from all walks of life and display a camaraderie the like of which most posters here can only dream of sharing and that cuts across many social boundaries.
14

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

25/06/2008 12:50:56
12.

Don't rise to his bait. Let him live in his little parallel universe, fearful of the "Trotskist scum" who are coming to take us away. The nurse will soon be along to give him his sedative, and all will be well (or as well as it ever gets around here).
15

Fed up with getting ripped off,

Dunfermline 25/06/2008 12:51:59
protesting about the ever rising cost of fuel is not about bikes, or bikers... it's about getting of your lazy asses and doing something about it. imagine the impact if a group of car drivers did the same.... how good would that be.... easy to make us out to be the villains here.. so the next night you and your friends are at your bridge night, or salsa classes, or whatever you spinelss cowards do, why not do something about it! or is just someonelse's problem?
16

Fed up with getting ripped off,

Dunfermline 25/06/2008 12:52:20
protesting about the ever rising cost of fuel is not about bikes, or bikers... it's about getting of your lazy asses and doing something about it. imagine the impact if a group of car drivers did the same.... how good would that be.... easy to make us out to be the villains here.. so the next night you and your friends are at your bridge night, or salsa classes, or whatever you spinelss cowards do, why not do something about it! or is just someonelse's problem?
17

alex patersons English teacher,

25/06/2008 12:53:29
10
mr alternator ( hi-octave) Fool head,its paterson with one tee.

This was a massage on behalf of alex paterrson, not a partly political broad cast.
18

Incandescent with Rage!!!,

25/06/2008 12:55:40
#2

Scary words 5*****, are you with the 'West Coast', 'Glasgow Blues' the Slaves or the 'All England' chapter?

And don't criticise Marie Antoinette, she's ignorant and knows no better!
19

tumshie heid,

25/06/2008 12:58:00
As usual, there are keyboard warriors popping up. They wouldn't dare repeat what they are typing to anyone who rides a bike.
The people here who are bleating that "it won't make any difference" etc are far too shortsighted to realise that unless people voice their displeasure at things like this then nothing will change.
Mario are you jealous that you have to go to the shops on Saturday instead of making decisions for yourself?
If I could follow on from some of the posters stereotypical views then I would like to say that most men who don't have a bike are henpecked nobodies with no ba##s.
20

I love to eat Sellotape,

25/06/2008 12:59:32
It be getting ugly in here.

I'm off to drop tabs.
21

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 12:59:51
18 ahem.

And All cause Daddy wouldnt buy them a Grifter.
22

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:03:36
19 Get your motor running . I take it from your post all bikers are "hard" because .. they own a bike and like Status Quo and grow their hair long when they are past 40 ?

Would any Bikers like to explain HOW this "demonstration" in Edinburgh is likely to convinvce Exxonmobil or Shell to lower prices for what is a dwindling resource ?

Or is it just time you all grew up ? Stop pissing about with your exhausts , its childish and annoying.
23

sceptic,

25/06/2008 13:03:55
3
"Fuel duty is set by the UK government so protesting in Edinburgh is a complete waste of time"
Fortunately the citizens of Edinburgh still have a vote at Westminster giving us the opportunity to get rid of this taxation fixated government led by the moribund Brown.
24

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:06:07
22... what a muppet........... 'nuff said really...
25

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:07:02
24 No ,its not really enough said. Answer the question and I'll drop the insults.
26

an interested party,

25/06/2008 13:07:11
yet an other reasoned debate, some pointless pedantry and lots of ignorance showing through

bet you are all adults as well! lol
27

Shakster,

Inverkeithing 25/06/2008 13:07:23
Hey Charliechacha, all have been advises to stop wasting time and have a bath before saturday, why dont you pop down grassmarket on saturday and check how busy we are and how clean and shiny we are, better still visit Fifebikers.co.uk and air your views.... missing you already....
28

Niadh,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 13:07:38
#8 Alex Paterson,
If you are referring to the story that came out a few months back about how large numbers of bikes are untaxed I suggest you think again and withdraw your stupid inane comment.
That story was false and misleading as the DVLA took into account bikes that are taken off the road for Winter and are therefore not taxed for that period.

#9 i think you will find that bikes are far more efficient than cars for the given power to weight ratio.
You will also probably find that quite alot of bikers these days are professionals not hells angels types as i think you are referring to. Even then these guys are generally alot more polite and gentler than you probably are.

#4 Mario, I take it you were born as a 40 year old.
29

sceptic,

25/06/2008 13:07:52
22
"Would any Bikers like to explain HOW this "demonstration" in Edinburgh is likely to convinvce Exxonmobil or Shell to lower prices for what is a dwindling resource ?"
How daft can you get, Shell makes 2p/l profit while Brown take 78p/l.
30

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:12:07
28 pretty much.

Okay, have a nice day biker dudes I'm sure you will whilst you change zilch.
31

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 13:14:22
At least we're doing something about it instead of greeting into our G&T.......
In 5 or 10 years time when Stalin Brown and his cronies have brought this country to its knees you people will be wishing that YOU did something about it as well.
Don't blame us when you can't afford life's neccessities.......
32

Shakster,

Inverkeithing 25/06/2008 13:15:57
a lot of comments here are what youd expect from "sit on your ars3" do gooders, who whinge and whinge and do nothing about it, always expecting someone else to act...... well here we are, the first of many, get used to it!
33

gotalottosay,

25/06/2008 13:17:29
how the heck does this help then.
34

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:17:58
Well said Shakster... see you on Saturday.
35

Shakster,

25/06/2008 13:19:50
Its called the snowball effect.... we do it others follow.... reclaim the streets..power to the people...

Power to the FifeBikers.co.uk ...they showed us the way.
36

tumshie heid,

25/06/2008 13:20:59
#29
Wouldn't it be great if these guys could comprehend that fact before coming out with such drivel?
The reaction on this board is typical of Britain today.
Lets moan about fuel, the cost of living etc. But when it comes to actually Doing something to protest then thats a different matter!
It is about sending a message to government that the oridinary citizens are fed up with being mugged by the treasury.
Mario I don't think that all bikers are hard but I am guessing from your posts that you still have the belief that we rip bats heads off.(and then bathe in their blood)
Thats why I said you wouldn't dare repeat your comments.
37

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 25/06/2008 13:21:07
Here.. ripped off dunfy guy. You think we should pay more income tax so your biker fuel is (temporarily)cheaper or should we just cut govt spending like pensions or summat?
Instead of displaying anger whits wrang with displaying brains? Its a web forum .. make yer case
38

Incandescent with Rage!!!,

25/06/2008 13:24:18
#21

Marie

Grifter:1. a person who operates a side show at a circus, fair, etc., esp. a gambling attraction.
2. a swindler, dishonest gambler, or the like.

You've lost me darling.
39

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

25/06/2008 13:26:37
22. You accuse bikers of being hard yet you dish out the insults.

Do you have a rambo headband on behind your monitor ?

Keyboard hardmen are the real scary ones eh!
40

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:28:44
John Knox... bike fuel is, believe it or not, the same fuel that goes into cars.... not sure if you knew that or not... and believe it or not, i drive a car as well...! this is about fuel prices, not bikes... see beyond the leathers, unless that's what floats yer boat of course..... coming from edinburgh, i guess there's every chance of that...
41

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

25/06/2008 13:29:11
Having a public hissy fit won't achieve anything. If they don't want to pay for petrol then the simplest solution would be to buy bicycles.
42

Dragonlord,

25/06/2008 13:30:28
Fuel prices along with gas and electricity prices are being hiked by the UK government, to help the USofA. If prices globally do not rise then the US goes into melt down. Everyone has to suffer beacuse the US markets have been out of control for years. Get used to it because things will get worse soon.
43

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:32:46
39 Maybe a bit over the top but it's called my opinion.

Anyway , read up on it if you want. Like I say, you'll have a great day out but don't pretend you are about to change the world. It's global.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing
44

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 25/06/2008 13:33:55
#40 Fed up boy - thanks for the insults, but what's yer proposal? If yer having a demo presumably you've a proposal to make to us good burghers?
45

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:34:27
"Direct action of this nature has virtually no effect on government policy"
46

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:38:21
if fuel prices were lower, you'd have more money to spend on KY....
47

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:39:03
46 Cheers I will let my wife know.
48

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 13:39:14
So we all just sit back and do nothing,eh?Nice attitude....
49

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

25/06/2008 13:41:29
43. Id say contradictory, but keyboard hardman thats only my opinion.

50

Schot,

Not Fae Fife 25/06/2008 13:42:47
Expensive petrol is inevitable. The amount of taxation however is a matter of opinion.

When cyclists do this it is called 'critical mass' and is applauded on the left. Motorcyclists use less petrol than car drivers, their tactic is sound, even if their anger is misplaced. The suggestion of a car demo is unorthodox but worth considering.

Fife bikers are wonderful. They gave Scotland two of it's best words 'Weegie' and 'Nectar'. There is a peace block of Grangemouth coming up. It would be good to see some Fife bikers there. Different campaigns can have different aims and yet still work together to maximise leverage.
51

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 25/06/2008 13:43:24
#46 Eh? And that's why you're demonstrating?? Fer KY Jelly?
Naw, but seriously, good ripostes aside, are you asking fer a cut in fuel duty or whit? And how much? And how is it to be funded or are you just having a laff?
52

Dileas,

25/06/2008 13:44:01
(22) said "Would any Bikers like to explain HOW this "demonstration" in Edinburgh is likely to convinvce Exxonmobil or Shell to lower prices for what is a dwindling resource ?"
And (29) was right on when he said "How daft can you get, Shell makes 2p/l profit while Brown take 78p/l."

Also, let's not forget that a large slice of Labour's majority comes from Scottish seats - Labour isn't forgetting that, only assuming it has a blind support. It's time for them to face reality - wise up or lose what support remains.

Assuming of course that Gordon Brown can actually brace himself to do something right for once.

Cut fuel duty - Like Labour it has lost touch with reality.
53

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:47:08
I'm sorry you have no hair Chris.
54

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:47:18
not fer the jelly... just an afterthought that you edinburgh "gents" would feel the benefit of having to pay less for fuel hence more spare cash.....

; )

However, this government is ripping us off more and more... and something needs to be done about it. if this is only the yip of the iceberg so be it... but at least we're doing something about it!
55

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:48:02
very good Mario.... must admit, i'm intrigued....
56

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:49:16
dont get too para, i just lifted it from the forum...

Look , good luck. It all started off a bit nasty and frankly I cant see how this can change anything but sorry for the insults.
57

Dileas,

25/06/2008 13:49:54
Genuine Mario (43) said "Anyway , read up on it if you want. Like I say, you'll have a great day out but don't pretend you are about to change the world. It's global."

If that's the case, why is petrol £1 a gallon in the USA and over £5 a gallon here (accepting that the difference between US and Imperial gallons is not 5x)?

It's the UK tax grab by a Labour government desperate for money anywhere it can get it that is wrong.
58

drew 33,

25/06/2008 13:50:15
This protest is about fuel tax not bikers. Most bikers these days are also motorists and cyclists. Many older motorists like myself started as cyclists and bikers.
Good luck with the protest and enjoy the day!
59

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:51:21
57 a better anaylsis would be among Western European countries, dont you think ?
60

The Hallucinist,

25/06/2008 13:53:09
#4 The Genuine Mario Antoinette

I don't own a motorbike, but still find your comments a little naive!! Stick with your knitting ya tw@t!!
61

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:53:50
no worries Mario... all in good fun (i hope).

way i see it is if one person takes notice then that's a start.. from small acorns and all that (or something like that..)

only reason it's bikers doing it is due to the mentality and the comaradarie of the biking community, through websites, forums, word of mouth. i personally would love to see a bunch of Biscuit Tins crawling up the bypass but sadly that is highly unlikely to ever happen...
62

Dileas,

25/06/2008 13:56:14
Mario (59) - why? We are talking about the difference in fuel cost - and the loading that our govvernment's tax take is adding to the cost of travel.

Whether other European governments are more or less grasping is neither here nor there - our economy is suffering, our governmen's policy is reducing our standard of living and Gordon likes to pretend (well, lie, actually) that it has nothing to do with him - he is wrong in this as in so much else.

We need action on fuel prices and it looks as though Gordon is not the one to provide that.
63

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 13:58:20
62 I give up.

You work out why other European economies are a better basis for comparison rather than US.
64

Xena - Warrior Princess,

25/06/2008 13:58:32
#61 Good on you, I will be taking notice cos I am fed up of being ripped off as well.
65

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 13:59:14
A couple of things......
When fuel gets too expensive for Joe Public to buy,where do the government get their revenue?Easy,just jack up tax on EVERYTHING ELSE!
Also,when no-one can afford to use private transport how will public transport cope?

This isn't an ego trip for bikers,it's a message from concerned taxpayers that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
66

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 13:59:29
nice to have the mighty Xena on our side!
67

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 14:01:11
OK Mario, I'll bite:

"Would any Bikers like to explain HOW this "demonstration" in Edinburgh is likely to convinvce Exxonmobil or Shell to lower prices for what is a dwindling resource?"

It is NOT about putting pressure on oil companies. It is about putting pressure on this shambles of a government to scrap (or at least drastically cut) fuel duty. It is fuel duty and fuel duty alone which pushes our prices up way beyond the rest of europe and indeed the world.

Without fuel duty (but with VAT) the price per litre would be around the 55p -- 60p mark which would be reasonable given the current circumstances with oil speculators driving the price up.

The demonstration is all about showing those in power that we do not agree with what they are doing. That is a right enshrined in law. It is a pity that more people won't demonstrate. Instead, they remain cowed and obedient, probably because they "don't want to cause a fuss". Over time this has resulted in a government that has had a free hand to ruin this country, Extortionately high taxes, from which the revenue is thrown into non-starter, rediculous schemes and even a country where you cannot smoke in the pubs any more.

It is about time EVERYONE got off their a****s and kicked up a right stink. Get these fools out of power now. If you choose not to join us, either keep your mouth shut or go to live in North Korea.
68

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 14:02:11
from the moment this thread started, i've lost count of how many times someone has tried to explain this is NOT ABOUT BIKES..!!

69

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 14:02:53
fuel head - spot on...!
70

The Hallucinist,

25/06/2008 14:04:15
#64 Xena - Do you work at Napier uni?
71

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 14:06:10
67 Petrol Head, its NOT way above western europe mate. Anyway.. I'm butting out.
72

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

North Korea 25/06/2008 14:07:12
I'll send a postcard.
73

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 14:08:00
seems we're drumming up a fair bit of support....

Mario, good bantering with you.

Get down the grassmarket on saturday and show your appreciation...
74

Standunited,

Glenrothes 25/06/2008 14:10:24
I'm a female biker, professional, aged in my 50's with a daughter at University. I will be taking part in this protest because, whether it makes any difference or not, at the very least it is saying to the Government that people are deeply unhappy with the way things are going. Public opinion is a very powerful thing (after all it is the public who decide who governs the country) but unfortunately, as always, there are always those who want to sit on the sidelines or on the fence and do NOTHING but criticise those who are prepared to try, at least, to make some kind of impact. Shut up if you have nothing constructive to say. No-one is asking you to take part. I hope those good people of Edinburgh who are sympathetic will rally round and show their support by acknowledging us as we pass. It's the age old story, isn't it. United we stand, divided we fall. Apathy and cowardice never won anything but contempt in my book.
75

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 14:13:01
Standunited.... the floor is yours!

well said!
76

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 14:14:46
And just think,the tourists'll love it......
After all,it seems that Embra's all about the tourists,not the residents.
What happens when this country is too expensive for tourists to visit?
77

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

25/06/2008 14:28:00

Bikers and the Orange Order in the town on the same day! The tourists will think the festival has started early.
78

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 14:28:02
Is that us finished now.
79

Dileas,

25/06/2008 14:32:01
Zoidberg (76) said "What happens when this country is too expensive for tourists to visit?"

It looks as if it already is - Edinburgh's tourist numbers are already down. But then, we make it as difficult as possible to park in Edinburgh, which discourages those coming by car, to get around Edinburgh by tram works and road closures and, acccorfing to the Herald on Sunday, if the City Council decides to lease the tram cars so that it can spend the money on Line 1b, it will be too expensive to even go by public transport! See http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2356792.0.tram_fares_may_rise_as_funding_shortfalls_hit.php
80

tattie bogle,

home 25/06/2008 14:40:08
the tram works and every other road dig beat you all to it
81

Niadh,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 14:41:30
I cannot remember who said it but it kind of applies to this situation if you change some of the words.
'All it takes for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing'

All it takes for the govt to continue ripping us off is for the public to lie down and accept all the govt excuses.
82

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 14:47:22
81 Knievel ?
83

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 14:53:50
a very good point Niadh...
84

Jenny MacArthur,

25/06/2008 14:56:26
Selfish idiots.
85

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 14:58:17
who? the government?
86

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 15:01:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxgm5uM64hc
87

Dileas,

25/06/2008 15:02:12
82 Mario - no, it was an American President in the early 20th Century. I can't remember which.
88

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 15:02:51
84 "Selfish idiots"
Care to elaborate?
89

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 15:08:01
i had that toy Mario....

top banana!
90

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 15:08:39
Was it Eddie Kidd who said " I have a dream" ?
91

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 15:08:47
Zoidberg.... i pushed her to expand but funnily enough, she had nowt to say.....
92

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 15:09:08
89 its a great video ! The scenes at the end are cracking me up.
93

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 15:35:05
Thanks for your contribution Jenny....

Clearly an educated person, with a masterfull way of blending blatant fact with a strong arguement backing up your theories.

Once again,thanks for coming. The world's a better place for having you. I think we've all learned something today.

People like you keep Britain british... literally....

everybody, i give you ..... Jenny..... hoorah!
94

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

25/06/2008 15:42:43
"If you choose not to join us, either keep your mouth shut or go to live in North Korea."

What is this, Fox News?
95

tomias,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 16:02:32
what a lot of exhaust on this site; I will be in Aberdeen !Ah well more sense out of the mri i'll be staring at.
96

an interested party,

25/06/2008 16:15:22
if cars where to do a drive round the by pass in protest how could anyone tell ?

perhaps it should just be claimed as a protest and then all cars could be assumed to be on it

and if that upset the drivers and they didn't turn up then there would be less congestion

win win in my book
97

Fed up with getting ripped off,

25/06/2008 16:17:36
Interested - that is pure genius!!!
98

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 16:25:19
I dont like Hippies either.
99

Finbarr Saunders,

25/06/2008 17:00:40
I wonder how many gallons of fuel will be wasted by all these bikers travelling from Fife to make this futile protest?
100

Desperately Seeking.......a solution,

25/06/2008 17:11:41
#99 Not much - my wee Suzuki gets @240 miles for a tenner.....

My advice ? Get a bike (motor or pedal), and filter through all the cr#p at rush hour.....
101

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 17:14:18
99- To YOU it's futile,but we're giving up our time AND money to make a stand.What are YOU doing?
102

Niadh,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 17:15:38
#84 JJEEEEENNNNNNYYYY
Where have you been darling?
I have so missed your one liners.
No-one else around here can leave us hanging and waiting for a more concise explanation the way you do.

#87 and #82
I remembered guys. Dileas you are a bit out of date on that.
It was Edmund Burke(1729 to 1797) and Anglo-Irish Politician.
See there are or rather were some good intelligent politicians out there.
103

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

25/06/2008 17:44:40
Get your motor runnin'
Head out on the High Street
Looking for reductions
And other ways to pay
Yeah bikers gonna make it happen
Bring the world to a walking pace
Slow all of our hogs at once
And expound into space

I dislike smoking outside
being taken for a ride
We're like lorry drivers
Hangin' with our kind
Yeah bikers gonna make it happen
Bring the world to a walking pace
Slow all of our hogs at once
And expound into space

Like a true nature's child
We were born, born to be riled
Diesel prices so high
Just make us wanna cry

Born to be riled...
Born to be riled...
104

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 18:01:06
youve gotta laugh. I think its an excuse for a jolly good day out by our loveable bikers and who can argue with that.

If some are stupid enough to actually think it will make a blind bit of difference (clue :- westminster is not in edinburgh) then more fool them .

Ace of Spades, ace of Spades.
105

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

25/06/2008 18:03:38
Never mind , the good people of Iraq (america arent pulling out) will supply with fuel in future for your wee toys boys. It was never about WMDs was it ? Now THERES a cause for you.
106

Now is the time for all good men....,

Round the corner 25/06/2008 18:09:08
Lots of bikers rev their engines up for a bit, have a moan and then life returns to normal.

Given the current weather it'll probably rain and no-one will care.

If they want to do something useful then protest against their fellow bikers who treat the A82 like a racetrack.
107

Agent 99,

25/06/2008 18:31:15
For the enlightenment of all:

FACT, prices from last weekend

Unleaded, 95 octane, price per litre
Zurich 1.95 CHF = £0.95
Luxemburg 1.33 Euro = £1.05
Holland/France 1.60 Euro = £1.26

Lux has always been a low cost location, with huge queues of folk taking advantage in comparison with the higher prices in neighbouring countries. I was surprised that Switzerland is now so cheap.

Diesel in Switzerland is about 2.15 CHF = £1.05, no data for Lux on this.

Exchange rates courtesy of FT currency calc, today.
108

Finbarr Saunders,

25/06/2008 18:35:49
#101- Zoidberg "To YOU it's futile,but we're giving up our time AND money to make a stand.What are YOU doing?"

I walk or use public transport where possible. Far more effective than burning up fuel unnecessarily.

This is just a day out for some bikers under the guise of a fuel protest.
109

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 19:09:14
Ah but Finbarr,as I asked before,what's going to happen to public transport when no one can use their own?
Also,the government's insistence on these ridiculously high fuel taxes are affecting everything,including life's essentials.Who's going to deliver food supplies when the hauliers go bust or can't continue because of the price of diesel?
Don't say "the railways",they are in enough trouble.........
Every time the government increase the tax on fuel the price of everything else increases.Once again I say that it's not about bikers' egos,it's about showing the powers that be that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.If you can't understand that then that's YOUR problem,just keep your head buiried in the sand.But DON'T come running to me when you find you can't afford to feed your family.The time is coming,and it's not far away.
110

Zoidberg,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 19:15:53
103,Friend of Fernando Poo-
Very good.Now if you (and those like you) put as much thought into helping solve the problems that this government has landed us in instead of extracting the urine from those of us who are at least TRYING we might actually get a result.But no,you just sit there in your ivory tower and score some cheap laughs.Or maybe you and your ilk are too scared to stand up and be counted?
111

TM,

LA, USA 25/06/2008 19:18:56
When truck drivers protest, nobody can do anything about it, but when motorcyclists block the road you risk some idiot in a car getting frustrated and trying to retaliate.