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Flats plan for ancient building set to go ahead



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Published Date: 29 August 2008
A CONTROVERSIAL bid to turn one of Leith's oldest buildings into flats is set to be given the go-ahead by councillors.
Officials have recommended granting planning permission for the drastic overhaul of Lamb's House – the site where Mary, Queen of Scots made her return to Scotland from France in 1561.

The scheme would see the A-listed merchant's house converted to
form six apartments.

An adjacent 1960s hall – once used as an old people's day centre – is also proposed for demolition, making way for the construction of a further three flats, an office and car parking.

Applicants EDI Group and The National Trust for Scotland will have to contribute financially to the city if the project is given the go-ahead, including £24,733 towards tram infrastructure and £11,500 towards the City Car Club.

Archaeological investigations will also have to be carried out before work can start on the site.

Alan Henderson, the council's head of planning and strategy, said: "Although the proposal contains some technical shortfalls these are acceptable in the context of maintaining and rebuilding the historic urban grain and finding a new use for the building."

It is thought Lamb's House – a name applied in the 1920s – was built in the late 16th or early 17th century. It lies on the corner of Water Street and Burgess Street, from which it is linked to the Shore.

The building is thought to be one of Leith's oldest, taking centre stage in the conservation area in which it stands.

It has been remodelled many times and in 1961 an extension was built to house an old people's day centre – closing down eight years ago.

Friends of the Earth runs an office from the only occupied section of the building, on the first floor.

The plans are to provide a 160 square metre office, with the nine flats – ranging from one to three bedrooms – and six car parking spaces.

But nine objections have been received by the council since the planning application was advertised in February.

They include possible loss of daylight and privacy in neighbouring properties, arguments over inappropriate designs, inadequate parking and concerns that the building should be developed for public use.

Historian John Arthur said the building would be better used as a heritage centre.

He told the Evening News: "This is a missed opportunity as far as I'm concerned.

"What we need in Leith are things to keep people here and make them want to come in the first place.

"The main source of income in future years for this area will be tourism with all the big liners coming in, but this building is the golden egg and we risk throwing that away."

In a report to be issued to councillors, Mr Henderson accepted that existing flats close to the site will lose daylight, but said it will remain within acceptable limits.

Councillors are recommended to approve the application, subject to material specification, archaeological investigation at the request of experts, landscape details and assurances that pavement widths will be maintained.

It has been recommended a heritage panel should also be located at the site, possibly in a landscaped garden area.





The full article contains 536 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 29 August 2008 10:42 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh planning issues
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:09:39
Lambs House is a lovely building and will be a great site for new flats.
2

elayne,

29/08/2008 12:31:56
been in it many times (no not as a day care recipient lol)it is a great building,though it is NOT the original andrew lambs house as most people think,the original building was on same site but was knocked down in 1700s
3

A Leither,

29/08/2008 12:32:24
The thing is, do we REALLY need any more new flats in this area ? They're just finishing off a big development of 'luxury, loft-style apartments' in an old bonded warehouse on Water Street and they're not all sold. There's a massive overprovision of new-build, 'luxury' flats in Leith which are now no longer selling or being rented. Traffic around Burgess Street / Water Street / The Shore is already bad enough, and there's nowhere to park any more cars.

Surely someone could have a little more foresight and use Lambs House for some other purpose other than another pied-a-terre for the extremely wealthy ? Do we have to sell off all of our heritage and history to developers for homes ?

However, regardless of the decision they'll have to do it quickly before the place is burned to the ground. It's being very badly vandalised and there's no longer any security guard provision which they did have going a while back. Many of the period windows and quite possibly original glass panels have been smashed in by the local burberry-clad wildlife, and parts of the buidling have been sprayed with graffiti.
4

Bigwull,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:04:56
new flats built shock, be a bit more original edinburgh
5

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:22:12
What is a 'technical shortfall'? Has the council thrown the rule book out the window again? It doesn't matter to Alan Henderson though. Only his decision matters according to him. Not guidelines, just what he decides to do on a given day.

It's not much of a way to run a planning department.
6

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:24:38
Footage has come to light of a recent planning meeting in Edinburgh where Alan Henderson told planners how they should approach large planning applications. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaJREvJW72g
7

The Judge,

29/08/2008 14:28:01
Another 24k bribe towards the tramLINE, I told you to expect a lot more of this type of development, the builders/developers will be laughing all the way to the bank.

The council have to grant permission they can't afford not to.
8

Artist,

glasgow 29/08/2008 15:22:31
Council has proved once again they are self serving Fools;Heritage is more inportant! Than their Demented Actions ;No more flats are needed in that part of Leith,
9

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 15:37:17
Amazing that the council can stop an office blocking up a disused stairwell but they can allow a historic building to be converted into flats. Odd set of standards.
10

keithface,

Leith 29/08/2008 17:24:31
Objections:
'They include possible loss of daylight and privacy in neighbouring properties, arguments over inappropriate designs, inadequate parking and concerns that the building should be developed for public use.'

Councillor response:
'In a report to be issued to councillors, Mr Henderson accepted that existing flats close to the site will lose daylight, but said it will remain within acceptable limits.'

how would this councillor know that the light would be within acceptable limits? We have objected, living opposite the proposed development, and no-one has taken any light readings from our flat's present condition, so his 'conclusion' is baseless. Mr Henderson also only addresses one of the objections raised.

usual puff from Evening News Property Development mouthpiece; not announcing news, rather anticipating a result they favour.

we objected on mnay levels, but the Flat-roofed, modern wooden-clad extension planned is clearly not appropriate to join a 16th Century landmark building. Greed as usual would push for the 3 new flats, but this of course is where the profit margins would lie for the Council Developers, sorry, 'arms-length' development company. Our objections would drop should they consider NOT building an ill-suited extension which alters the feel of the Lambs House building and poses the most problems for nearby residents.
11

keithface,

leith 29/08/2008 17:45:04
furthermore, for those who have tried to find the proposed development try this
Application Reference: 08/00415/FUL
@ http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_searchform.aspx
to see details for yourself.
12

jdships,

29/08/2008 19:39:09
4 The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

Agree totally with what you write
It would have been impossible to turn Lamb's House into a building suitable for public house.
The provision of disabled access, for one thing, is virtually impossible without major structural alterations.
13

celtic4,

USA 30/08/2008 02:17:33
I hope all the historic ancient buildings are not going to be turned into flats. All that wonderful heritage gone. Just up and gone! Why they are considering turning Slain's Castle into flats! What a disgrace that is. Bram Stoker and all that, too. Wow
14

juan_r,

30/08/2008 02:50:11
#7 Nice use of the fat, bald, daft bloke video. I love his words (not in this context) but he really shouldn't be running a company like that!

#12 "How would this councillor know that the light would be within acceptable limits?...no-one has taken any light readings from our flat's present condition, so his 'conclusion' is baseless".

I don't know whether they have done anything like this, so I hate to scare you with the thought of modern "witch-craft", but you can actually computer model things these days.
Given a scenario (such as a set of fixed buildings and the rotation of the earth around the sun) you can create a near perfect model of the outcome of adding some extra buildings!

Such computer modelling would surely be better than what you propose. Someone popping round and taking a "light reading" out your windows just now and....then what? Surely all they could do after that would be to either feed in the current values to a computer model or "imagine" what would happen if new buildings were added, like you appear to be doing!
15

Pencheck,

Edinburgh 01/09/2008 17:12:07
This building belongs to the National Trust for Scotland and should be treated with the utmost care. It was "rescued" rather roughly by Ian Lindsay and Partners who paid scant regard for the remaining evidence of this most interesting survival from the days of Baltic trading and the danger is that even more damage will be done this time round. The Trust should have had the inhouse capability to undertake this project themselves inhouse without the "help" of EDI. They had the idea this project would make some money, which it might have done had they got on with it in a more bouyant market but as usual with that lumbering organisation, it has dragged on for years. The council's charges will, of course, have the effect of forcing the development to be less conscientious and respectful of the building than it would be without them.

 

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