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EU launches probe into city's handling of Caltongate plans



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Published Date: 13 August 2008
THE EU today became the latest organisation to launch an investigation into the handling of the controversial £300 million Caltongate plans.
Architectural historian David Black, who sparked a similar European investigation over the Holyrood parliament building, has succeeded in persuading officials in Brussels to consider his complaint against the city council.

The move comes just week
s after the UN heritage watchdog Unesco launched an investigation into Edinburgh's World Heritage status, amid concerns over the impact of the Caltongate development.

Mr Black – a founder of the Old Town Association – raised a number of issues in his complaint, and claimed competition laws were broken in the sale of a patch of land for the massive project.

He also claimed that planning convener Jim Lowrie breached rules by prematurely commenting on the scheme in the Evening News – although the Standards Commission for Scotland later cleared him of this.

After five months, the office of the Secretariat-General of the European Commission, the executive branch of the EU, has ruled Mr Black's complaints admissible. Although no comment has been made on the validity of the allegations, officials will now decide whether to start an "infringement procedure" – which could lead all the way to the European courts.

Mr Black said this means the Caltongate development could still be scrapped, although sources close to the project believe this to be highly unlikely.

"I think the council is very vulnerable ... these decisions cannot stand, and this could be an incredible outcome as a point of law of this.

Five years ago, Mr Black lodged a complaint with the European Commission over the £414m Scottish Parliament project, alleging mismanagement, secrecy and bias. The Commission decided that rules had been broken, although no further action was taken because the Scottish Executive had taken steps to prevent a repeat.

One of his key allegations regarding Caltongate centres around a patch of council-owned land, which Mr Black believes the council supplied to developer Mountgrange for around £5m without offering it on the open market.

A council spokesman said: "The council's financial involvement relates to commercial agreements on property which have been reported openly to the council.

"It is routine for public and privately-owned land to be taken together for the sake of developments that benefit the city.

"We are obliged to raise market value on property we sell and we are comfortable that we have done that."

An official from the Secretariat-General said the Commission will "consider (the] complaint in the light of the applicable Community law", but warned that this did not mean an infringement procedure would necessarily be opened.





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  • Last Updated: 13 August 2008 11:26 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Cappo Del Monte,

13/08/2008 12:43:25
Housing crash, now this, then the hertiage people, this will be like opening a can of worms.
Can see all the investment slowing disappearing lol, could be a non starter now
2

Paddi,

13/08/2008 12:53:41
Whats this got to do with Brussels ???
3

Regular visitor,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 13:19:24
There is guaranteed to be a huge 'ransom strip'/overage within each site. At least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask.
4

Howard Moon,

13/08/2008 13:20:34
David Black = Buttress?
5

Mallory,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 13:39:46
Well done David Black - its time that this whole mess was investigated. The Springside / Fountain North development acquired parkland land from the council without any competitive tendering process.

Was this deal also in conflict with EU regulations?

http://www.gardyloo.org/
6

Buttress,

13/08/2008 13:48:37
No David Black is not Buttress.

A recent EU ruling on a similar sale of land in England found it unlawful.

www.eh8.org.uk for all the latest news, and click on the blogspot link for frequent annoyed, amused, amusing and informative updates folks!

7

tomias,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 13:50:07
City councillors on visits to mainland Europe- watch this space!
Market Forces
8

Buttress,

13/08/2008 13:53:36
"Land Securities' Stratford plan dealt blow by EU ruling

Ben Cook, Regen.net, 28 April 2008


Developer Land Securities' hopes of signing an agreement with Newham Council to extend a shopping centre in the borough have been dealt a blow by a European Union ruling.

The property company has, over the last four years, been developing plans for a mixed-use extension to its 350,000 square foot Stratford Centre in east London. The extension would have involved the development of land owned by Newham Council.

But an EU ruling on a case in France means Newham Council has been forced to put the contract out to full tender.The ruling - which related to a case involving Roanne town council - has established the principle that public development agreements are bound by EU procurement rules. Previously, such development agreements were not considered to be work contracts falling under EU procurement legislation.

Land Securities says it was close to signing a deal with Newham Council and the London Thames Gateway Development Corporation to work on the project, but now the contract has been put out to tender via the Official Journal of the European Union.

The Stratford Island Regeneration Project will consist of an extension to the shopping centre as well as educational facilities for the University of London.

A spokesman for Land Securities, which owns the shopping centre, said the company was "disappointed" with the ruling.

He added: "The Stratford centre has development potential and we will take a view on what is the best way forward." "
9

Buttress,

13/08/2008 14:02:51
It's more than a patch of land too - there's the Grade C Listed Canongate Venture (to be bulldozed) and other buildings flogged to Mountgrange at a song in order to make the Caltongate development much larger than the original site bought.
10

Buttress,

13/08/2008 14:23:36
Read Magnus Linklater in the Times today on Edinburgh:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/magnus_linklater/article4517781.ece
11

Jamie Dunne,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 14:31:53
Oh for crying out loud I don't even care any more, can we just build SOMETHING in that horrible bit of wasteland. Heck, let Buttress design it, just as long as the land gets developed somehow.
12

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 14:44:08
#11 Jamie Dunne,

Yes, I agree, anything would be better than the derelict ruins which were previously on this site and we don't want the cleared area to remain unused/undeveloped any longer.

As for the Canongate Venture building, the quicker it's down the better (a throughly depressing building if ever I saw one).

As for the EU/UNESCO, perhaps it is time for this country to ignore their petty rulings just like most of the rest of the planet do.

13

Buttress,

13/08/2008 14:49:49
Oh Peter awakes.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

14

Pop goes the Weasel ,

Gorgie 13/08/2008 14:57:15
Buttress is obviously feeling rather smug. Congratultions Buttress, you and your cronies have managed to stall the redevelopment of a major brownfield site in the centre of Edinburgh.

Look, I'm not one to advocate knocking down listed buildings, but let's look at the bigger picture. The redevelopment of this site will undoubtedly benefit Edinburgh. Cos at the moment, it's a huge, embarrassing, hole in the ground. And let's face it, who is going to miss the Venture building?

Something is going to be built on this site. Whether it is now, next year, or whenever. This European nonsense will not stop that.
15

Buttress,

13/08/2008 15:00:56
I'd miss the Venture building. And I'd like a far, far better development on the site which respects the historic buildings.

Something without Allan Murray's dabs all over, preferably.
16

Howard Moon,

13/08/2008 15:04:37
'a far, far better development on the site which respects the historic buildings'

Please give a recent example of this (somewhere in Edinburgh, preferably, if you can) so that we can make a judgement on your view. Considering some of your past posts, I can't help but think you'd rather it just stayed as a horrible gap site.
17

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 15:09:59
#13 Buttress

Hi Buttress,

How's my favourite crackpot kraken?

18

Buttress,

13/08/2008 15:14:21
Really Howard Moon? Dream on.
19

Joe Smith.,

Moscow 13/08/2008 15:18:36

#16 - if you sing that comment out of tune and do a funny dance you could be Howard from the Halifax ads
20

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 15:20:31
#14 Pop goes the Weasel

As you say, "at the moment, it's a huge, embarrassing, hole in the ground", but arguably no worse than the 'dumps' which were there before and like the Canongate Venture building unfortunately still are.

Suggestion:

Why not build a second Scottish Parliament there so that MSPs will have a place to 'work' when the current building collapses yet again?
21

Rap,

Haymarket 13/08/2008 15:22:40
Peter, after the nasty comments you were making about people on the tartan tat thread - defending racists - I'd suggest you were the crackpot kraken.
22

Buttress,

13/08/2008 15:24:52
Peter is a site troll. Likes making mischief. Best ignored.
23

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 15:28:36
#21 Rap,

This is still a democracy and all are entitled to express a point of view. By default therefore that includes racists, conservationists. etc as long as violence is not being advocated or indeed carried out.
24

Rap,

Haymarket 13/08/2008 15:37:23
Peter,
What do conservationists incite people to do exactly?

We all know you are just trying to justify your sociopathic beliefs. If so, go over to the Daily Mail forum, and leave us to talk about things you don't really understand.

Howard,
I think the cafe in St. Andrews Sq is a pretty good attempt at modern design in an historic site. And considering the Sheraton is no great shakes, I think the EICC is nae too bad. Not great, but it doesn't make my stomach turn. What do you think is good?
25

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 15:43:28
#24 Rap,

"What do conservationists incite people to do exactly?"

Well Rap, it won't be the first time conservationists have encouraged people to break the law in order to achieve their ends.



26

Howard Moon,

13/08/2008 15:48:23
#24

Agreed. I think the cafe in St Andrews Sq works well. It's not as good as the Shake Shack in Madison Park NYC (which I assume was an inspiration) but it's fine by me.

Buttress, though, has criticised its design. Come on, give us an example! My choice for a recent successful design would be the Ocean Terminal in Leith. I think it looks great, considering what it is, and fits in really well.
27

Buttress,

13/08/2008 16:22:01
The Scottish Parliament.
28

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 16:32:53
#27 Buttress,

In the words of John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious!".

29

Buttress,

13/08/2008 16:45:07
Oh yes - a fine building if you are discerning.

Go back to sleep Peter.
30

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 16:51:51
#29 Buttress,

The Scottish Parliament building does not blend in with historical monuments such as Holyrood Palace, White Horse Close, Queensberry House, etc. there is just too much of a contrast as most of us living around the Royal Mile tend to agree.

A better option would to have upgraded and used the old Royal High School building at the bottom of the Calton Hill.
31

Buttress,

13/08/2008 16:56:53
Not big on architectural appreciation then Peter?

32

archie12,

13/08/2008 18:38:34
IT's hard to believe that the Council officials and lawyers were blind to EU directives and rulings whilst Tervor Davies, Donald Anderson and others were urging them to conclude deals with Mountgrange as soon as possible. At best, utter incompetence. At worst, as fishy as a haddock's underpants.
33

grantcat,

Old Town 13/08/2008 22:34:46
The council knew Mr Black did this months ago and the council were aware it as was in the Evening News - seemingly it is against the 1957 Treaty of Rome to sell land and assets that are publicly owned off-market. - I suppose its to stop corruption.

Caltongate is not the development that is needed in the area - we have made the point over and over again - I know it is boring but try being us. What do people want us to do say "ach well .... we are bored with it -build your daft development"? Surely not.

We have made our point very clearly, we are against the development and we have stated our case over and over.

Those who are for the development have also made their point and with the council officials, councillors, big business, PR companies, Mori Polls and probably millions of pounds behind them.

The council have proven themselves to be chaotic, incompetent and careless in this matter - I don't trust them, don't like them and we will see how it all pans out. Lets hope they don't demolish the listed buildings and then have a brown field site for the next 30 years like we did in Greenside and other sites in Edinburgh.

34

mad moo,

edinburgh 13/08/2008 23:19:34
The canongate venture is a lovely building which was well used until the develpers flashed the cash. There is still huge demand for the kind of workshop start up units which can be accommodated (and were for 50years)within it. If controled better through te communityy it could also provide some playspace/green area within the grounds used for free parking by council workers at present.
The only gap site is the bus depot site - which was bulldozed by Mountgrange a year or two ago on the promise that if there was no approved plan once the decontamination and archaeology were done ( finished ags ago) a 100,000quid was available for a temporary 'land art scheme'........
Ok then a temporary art installation/landscaping/recreational space could be made, Lets have that while we wait for the lawyers and council officials to squabble.
In the mean time let the people of Edinburgh, and most importantly the young folk of the city make their comments on the future of their land and decide what should be done in the Old Town.
More info at www.eh8.org.uk

I have also found Save Our Old Town on facebook and SOOT Edinburgh on bebo aswell!
35

Steam Ship,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 13:00:47
I am sure that if land is sold to an adjoining owner then the council does not need to take it to the market?
36

John N,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 16:01:31
As I understand it, the Council's obligation is to obtain "best value". Obviously, debatable what that means, but it does not necessarily require disposal on the open market. A bit of land, like this, could easily be seen as being more valuable to the neighbours who want to develop their land.

As for new buildings respecting their historic neighbours, I'm a fan of the new Museum of Scotland on Chambers Street.

 

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