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Published Date: 13 November 2008
TOWERING new buildings, large-scale developments and modern schemes out of keeping with their historic surroundings risk damaging Edinburgh's world heritage site, Unesco chiefs warned yesterday.
The city council and the business community have been warned the whole "integrity" of the Old and New Towns will be in doubt if developments are allowed to proceed unchecked.

On the opening day of an official visit which could see Scotland's capit
al stripped of its world heritage status, Mechtild Rössler, Europe and North America chief at Unesco's world heritage centre, said it was vital for Edinburgh to guard against development that was "incompatible" with its surroundings. She said it was particularly crucial that key views of the city centre, including from the main approaches to the city, were not ruined.

Dr Rössler dismissed claims that Edinburgh's world heritage status risked holding back development and instead warned the city's economy could suffer long-term damage if widescale change in the heart of Edinburgh was accepted. She spoke out as details emerged of a damning report to Unesco from a key advisory body, warning that the scale of developments planned for Edinburgh city centre could have a dramatic impact on the city's world heritage site.

Dr Rössler, who is accompanied by Professor Manfred Wehdorn, of the International Council on Monuments, in Edinburgh this week, said: "We are well aware of the strength of the debate in Edinburgh. We have received hundreds of letters and the arguments have been very passionate.

"It's important to remember that world heritage status was awarded to Edinburgh based on its historic buildings and street patterns. We are not arguing that cities should be maintained like museums.

"It's totally false for anyone to suggest that, but development has to be compatible with what is there, whether it is a tall building or a modern new development in an historic location.

"It's very important that existing views are maintained for the citizens of Edinburgh and great care should be taken to ensure that new developments are in keeping with what is already there."





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  • Last Updated: 12 November 2008 11:25 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Buttress,

13/11/2008 00:06:33
For more see:

www.eh8.org.uk


and the blog:

http://www.independentrepublicofthecanongate.blogspot.com/


From BBC News yesterday:

"Sally Richardson, of the Save Our Old Town Campaign, said when the city had applied for World Heritage status 13 years ago it had signed up to Unesco's criteria for protecting and enhancing.
"We welcome Unesco's visit - they're coming here to offer international experience," she said.
"We're not fighting against development; we're fighting for the right development.
"My children and the children of the Royal Mile Primary School will see buildings on their street demolished to make way for retail-led development that's not going to add to the story of their city." "
2

cynicalm,

Edinburgh 13/11/2008 00:27:51
I agree that the skylinw of Edinburgh has been ruined by intrusive architechture. Just look at the high rise spires of the Whisky centre, Barclay Church etc as well as the 19th and 20th century tat in the Old Town.
Very little of Edinburgh facades date from before 1850. The only thing which is historic is the street layout and the tram layout willsoon put paid to that.
3

marmalade sandwich,

scotland 13/11/2008 02:49:47
Edinburgh is a complete mess.

The trams: Time to call it a day - fill in all the holes, remove the Heras fencing and cones and open all the closed off junctions.

Then open all the other closed off jucnctions which corall traffic into set routes, and make getting from A to B impossible without going through C on the way. Let the traffic find its own way. Open up the city.

At the moment, I avoid having to go to Edinburgh unless I really have to. Our family find it easier to get to Stirling and Glasgow for shopping.
4

Incandescent,

13/11/2008 03:26:59
3 - Well said.

1 - Buttress - don't you get just a little bit tired of this? Do you think it's going to have any effect? Why don't you stand as a councillor and get yourself on the planning committee if it's so important to you?
5

Scunnert,

13/11/2008 04:04:19
1 Buttress, 13/11/2008 00:06:33

Keep up the struggle. Don't let the philistines win. The ruination of many Scottish towns and cities by "developers" is criminal. They should be horsewhipped.
6

Kate,

Zurich 13/11/2008 07:55:31
#4, I agree, #1 Buttress, how about making an actual comment instead of always copy/pasting other people's words...

Yes, development is good and necessary, but harmonious development in keeping with the existing architecture and city layout should be achieved.
7

Rap,

13/11/2008 08:03:45
4, did you actually read what UNESCO said? I imagine Buttress is one of those hundreds of people who wrote to UNESCO asking them to visit, and review the WHS. I know I did. So it is having an effect. What is important is whether our city planners and city Councillor's will pay any attention to the warnings being given. I would imagine the Councillors would be reading these words with interest, and I hope the people who vote for the Councillors on the Planning Committee will be asking them to justify some of the decisions they have made, and consider their decisions come the election.

6, Buttress has made the same points you have made many times, as have many people on here. It's not about no development it's about sympathetic development, and we shouldn't ever expect any less.
8

paulr,

edinburgh 13/11/2008 08:20:48
While I am totally opposed to many of the proposed new developments in the city, they are architecturally 'GARBAGE' and do not fit in with the existing buildings, I still have to say UNESCO keep your nose out of our business!!
9

Rap,

13/11/2008 08:43:14
8, Why shouldn't they comment? I'd be quite upset if someone decided to build a nasty new casino next to Auschwitz, and I'd hope UNESCO would politely express their concerns as well.

I'd also hope that if a non-political, independent organisation with a great deal of expertise in European and World Heritage feels strongly enough to comment on what is happening in Edinburgh, then someone takes it seriously. Why on earth shouldn't they have a say when we rely on non-qualified Councillors to make our planning decisions for us, who are worried about elections, and have to be seen to support economic development in a city. And we have no say over those in our Planning Dept who advise the Councillors.

I say bring on the independent opinions. We should listen and consider their opinions - why should we be annoyed by what they say unless it's true? I suspect it will make no difference to the 4 developments they are hear to review, but it makes everyone involved in the process a little more aware and considerate of these heritage issues then it can only be a good thing.
10

Boy Wonder,

13/11/2008 09:36:29
Development is fine ... if it is building in the same style as surrounding facades. What's wrong with wanting that??
11

Buttress,

13/11/2008 09:43:39
Thanks Rap. Important days today and tomorrow - a chance to have views heard by the mission. There's more ways to skin a cat than some folk seem to think.

And for those who think that UNESCO has nothing to do with Edinburgh - then look up what UNESCO is and why it's here.

6 - had a good chuckle at that!





12

Buttress,

13/11/2008 09:58:41
See - some recognise my worth ;-)

http://culturalpropertylaw.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/fear-peddling-sabre-rattling-and-champions-of-stagnation-in-edinburgh/

13

Rap,

13/11/2008 10:10:15
Fame indeed!

And yes, key days today and tomorrow. But I wonder what they can really learn in 45 mins?
14

Seb,

13/11/2008 10:13:42
45mins? I'm meeting them for 90mins.
15

Buttress,

13/11/2008 10:23:48
Seems some have been broadcasting the conservation message far away:

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1081113/jsp/calcutta/story_10097424.jsp


In Bath, groups had 20 mins each to make a presentation, and backed that up with docs and montages - about what made Bath Bath, really, the 'Bathness ' of it, and why some of the proposed developments were not a lot to do with Bath. Interesting stuff. Thankfully one of the nasty developments was withdrawn before the visit, but they agreed I gather that it would have been a spot disastrous.

In Edinburgh, as all in together for the Cockburn refereed 'round table', I wonder if sparks will fly?


16

Rap,

13/11/2008 10:29:04
I'm delighted for you Seb, but I'm afraid mere residents only get 5 min in a 45min meeting on each development. Still, reassuring it's the same length of time they get to speak to Alan Henderson. Can he really justify all those decisions in 5 mins?
17

Buttress,

13/11/2008 10:36:03
Maybe some can also earhole them at the drinkies reception this evening - get them in a corner and bend ears!

Sadly, I am sure Alan Henderson can justify the decisions by refs to the paper trail. What's right and what can be argued as falling within planning policies are two different things, of course.



18

Rap,

13/11/2008 10:38:49
Well I know a Councillor and an MSP who will have an opportunity to bend a few ears, so I hope that helps that people within the establishment are not automatically supportive of the planning process.
19

Buttress,

13/11/2008 10:45:11
I gather Trever 'finger' Davies was bending their ears at the Civic Reception last night though...

I don't think any of the Community Council members were invited!
20

Stan1,

Edinburgh 13/11/2008 10:58:24
Yes I agree

We must NEVER change, NEVER grow, NEVER improve, NEVER suggest improvement or change, NEVER attempt to build anything modern, We must make mock olde worlde houses from now on, men must only wear kilts and we must throw our toilet waste out of upper windows. All architect offices must be closed and the tram leaders must be burned as the witches and heretics that they are. Change is BAD, progress is EVIL. Any attempt to create an interesting and modern approach ot living MUST be stopped and stopped at once.

Hail to old tradition - boo to the new

Get a grip...
21

Buttress,

13/11/2008 11:01:46
20 = not sure what planet you are on, but it's not the same one the UNESCO delegation is on, and it's not at all what those who are disliking the recent developments are saying. I think maybe it's you who has not got the grip - or the handle on this?


22

bluehead,

edinburgh 13/11/2008 11:52:06
this once great city has been turned into a cross between a concrete shanty town,and a gigantic human sardine tin,no wonder the heritage is disappearing fast
I can hardly believe what damage has been done to this city,it has lost all of it's charm and beauty that once made it the jewel of europe,the labour pile have a lot to answer for.
23

WKKB,

13/11/2008 12:24:32
#20 that just shows your ignorance!

#22, you described it exactly as I see it. Where do the visitors go when they come here? I know because I host visitors almost every month of the year and the first thing they want to see is the old architecture, the cobble roads, the historic buildings, castles, churches. Then they come back to the house from a day out and tell me what a shame it is that the huge concrete and glass buildings spoil the beautiful surroundings.

Growth and change are inevitable but with sympathy to the incredible surroundings that draw people here year round, not to mention those of us who live here and are still astonished at the beauty of it... what's left that is.
24

Stan1,

Edinburgh 13/11/2008 14:19:37
I fail to see why my earlier comment makes me ignorant. I was merely illustrating the fact that people are talking about building in the same style as existing facades?? How awful, has anyone seen the mock tudor horrors that are built in nearly ever new town? New buildings are always going to look 'different' and that is not always a bad thing. Are people seriously saying here that the skyline of Edinburgh has been ruined? From which angle/view are you talking about as all I can see is a stunning skyline dominated by our beautiful castle and carlton hill and arthurs seat? Which buildings in the old town are you annoyed about changing? As I have not seen that many change over the years (apart from of course the destruction of all the old bus sheds/car park behind the royal mile - not exactly a stunning structure to begin with). Can tourists not see? Can they not walk into stockbridge and look at the amazing georgian terraces, is the royal mile still not essentially a 'cobbled' street with great buildings on it. I just get annoyed at all the views that Edinburgh is somehow dissapearing as everyone must be seeing something that I cannot see as this city is as beatiful as ever
25

Rap,

13/11/2008 14:23:13
How about this 17 storey little blip on the skyline then?

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=10615

And just a tip, telling people to get a grip is a pretty ignorant way of trying to get your point across.
26

Buttress,

13/11/2008 14:30:21
Wait until some more buildings are demolished then, and some of the new built. Then you might see what the problem is.

But hey what can I know.

No, people aren't talking about building in the same style, and possibly you have managed to miss the untold acres of discussion about this, but there's a difference between building stuff which respects what's there (by not knocking down listed buildings) and developing in a way which is unique to Edinburgh, or building - well, Caltongate.







27

Buttress,

13/11/2008 14:34:45
Yes Rap - but the pic doesn't do it justice really. Looks short squat and benign there, where in reality ...

Now what is it in the WHS OUV's about the iconic skyline?

Yes, that will really enhance it.
28

Buttress,

13/11/2008 14:59:57
By the way Stan - what is your view of the Scandic Crown (or whatever hotel chain owns it currently)?

29

Chris42,

Glasgow 13/11/2008 15:09:17
Will the Haymarket Tower be visible from Princess Street? Great shame if it ruins the wonderful vista.
30

Rap,

13/11/2008 15:11:45
No, not the worst photo, but it was supplied by the "award winning" architect himself, hence the less than representative view.

But this one does show the ugly runt of a hotel next to it.
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.showprojectbigimages&img=5&pro_id=10615

Beautiful eh Stan?
31

Buttress,

13/11/2008 15:29:12
Wonder if Stan has read this?

http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/hslive/hsstart?P_HBNUM=49076


You going along this evening Rap to CS??
32

Stan1,

Edinburgh 13/11/2008 15:35:26
Gosh I really have managed to annoy some folks haven't I? Not quite sure what the Scandic Crown has to do with anything as it has been in Edinburgh for as long as I can remember - it's inoffensive enough I suppose, not really thought about it - should I?

As for the 17 Storey building in Haymarket, I love it -looks amazing, much better than some of the faceless offices in that area.

I don't really see that telling people to get a grip is ignorant - rude, yes, but not ignorant. It was rude I was aiming for.

I just fail to see what all the fuss is, the so-called listing buildings that have or are going to be demolished were c listed, not exactly holyrood palace or something.

Edinburgh will always be a stunning city, the old architecture will always be here, and if some modern facilities open as well, then all it does is diversify an already amazing city and make it even better.

All just my humble opinion of course, no need to get upset (but perhaps telling you to get a grip - was wrong - sorry you sensitive folks - hope you have a lovely evening)

33

Rap,

13/11/2008 15:40:56
Er, don't know what CS is, so I guess not.

I think Stan is getting confused.I don't think he realises all this fuss is about new developments that haven't been built yet, and we are trying to stop these buildings being pulled down, and new ones going up. So you can stand and look around, and ignoring some monstrous new buildings, Edinburgh is beautiful. But then wait till these go ahead....
34

Buttress,

13/11/2008 15:41:23
Oh dear. Can't at this juncture be bothered to argue. History clearly isn't your thing.

Scandic - same architect as the ones listed above, not old...
35

Buttress,

13/11/2008 15:42:16
This evening... do go.

36

Buttress,

13/11/2008 15:44:04
http://www.ewht.org.uk/GetFile.aspx?ItemId=571
37

Rap,

13/11/2008 15:49:28
Stan,
ignorant

• adjective 1 lacking knowledge or awareness in general. 2 (often ignorant of) uninformed about or unaware of a specific subject or fact. 3 informal rude; discourteous.

Buttress, I assumed this wasn't a free for all, just the missionaries and schmoozy councillors and such. surely the doors are not opened for riff raff as well?
38

Rap,

13/11/2008 15:53:43
Chris, I have limited access to plans and images here, but in the main all guesstimated views are internally aimed, ie from out of town into the centre, so no guesstimates from Princes St. west. I'd think though that as you can't see the old brewery chimney you might not see Tiger Towers, but it is closer to the West End, and is 3+ times larger than the haymarket bar.
39

Buttress,

13/11/2008 15:53:56
Oh Rap - I am sure you cannot be thus described, as a stakeholder and strong and informed objector? One who actually has something useful to say?
You are hardly riff-raff?

Try ringing the Director and asking?

40

Rap,

13/11/2008 17:08:16
Community Council Chairs have been invited Buttress, so an insider will be there anyway. All quite last minute.
41

Buttress,

13/11/2008 17:23:31
Oh, always room for another who cares I am sure... (well maybe not if Trevor The Finger...) I have no doubt that the WHS site, and all its wonderful buildings, belongs to all and those who wish to see its preservation will be more than welcome to say so to UNESCO.

Gosh - what a wonderful video in this link:

http://www.independentrepublicofthecanongate.blogspot.com/


x










42

Rap,

13/11/2008 22:13:22
Buttress, did you go? Did you hear the news about Tiger Towers?
43

Buttress,

14/11/2008 09:36:46
No, I didn't go (amazing really - free drink and I wasn't there... hope it was a useful evening) but I've just read the news under the Lowrie article.

Good news so far, although of course it could be a long hard slog and they could still allow it. I can't see UNESCO liking it and it could be a delaying tactic.

I hope not. How much better it could all be!

This made me chuckle today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/angusmcdiarmid/3026716887/


44

Rap,

14/11/2008 10:02:27
Is that in your handwriting Buttress?

Oh, no-one is under any illusions that this magically fixes anything, or anything will change. But it offers more hope than the no hope we had before. I hope the UNESCO report will be part of the inquiry. I'll let you know if I can find out what UNESCO think of this, this afternoon.

But I do expect the Council to stop the enabling works Tiger are starting on the site, until the inquiry is finished. Not that they should have allowed them to start them.
45

Buttress,

14/11/2008 10:22:40
Of course that wasn't me - tut, how could you think I would be such a vandal!

We leave that to Lowrie and his chums.

Yes, it at least offers a public arena in which to air the objections which are not in reality ever listened to in the carefully stage managed 'public consultations' and the planning process. I assume the architect will be turning up to defend his designs. I hope that a decent legal team is assembled, I wonder who the official opposition will be? Expensive things inquiries...

46

Rap,

14/11/2008 11:48:58
Yes indeed. There is always the possibility that Tiger might just sell the land and walkaway if they don't think they can get what they want. Intercontinental need a tall hotel to get the rooms, but if anyone reduces the height.....

If it all goes horribly wrong (for them) we will be blamed for halting economic development in the area, but it means the station can be redevloped, creating the real gateway to the city and WHS, as it should be.

Still, can't think about that now, I am just imagining all the smug grsins we have had to deal with over the year, and how they will be wiped away today.
47

Buttress,

14/11/2008 12:07:22
This appeared yesterday on The Drum website:

"Radley Yeldar has added to the Edinburgh team with the appointment of Ross Aitken to head up business development.

Aitken has worked in sales and marketing both north and south of the border, having worked in the newspaper industry with Trinity Mirror Group, Associated Newspapers and The Scotsman Publications. Latterly, he was client services director of Omnia, the multi-disciplinary consultancy, based in their Edinburgh office.

Mike Lynch of Radley Yeldar commented: “Ross and I will be developing the new business pipeline and marketing the fantastic reputation that RY has established over the past 22 years to the Scottish business community. He impressed the whole team in London with his enthusiasm, drive and knowledge of the Scottish market place and those attributes will be key to developing our offer in what is a tough climate.”

Radley Yeldar has recently launched a new corporate website created for private real-estate group, Mountgrange. The site, www.mountgrange.com, has been launched to coincide with a new £400m opportunity fund set up by Mountgrange to acquire UK located property, including Caltongate in Edinburgh and Phoenix Park in Linwood."



So there's more to worry about - Mountgrange has clearly spotted that in Scotland it has opportunities to push through developments which I suspect it has more problems with in England.

48

Buttress,

14/11/2008 12:15:17
And from that:

"Situated in the heart of Edinburgh’s old town, Caltongate represents one of the largest urban regeneration projects in Scotland. Located on a 6.5 acre site, planning permission has been granted for a five star hotel (pre-let to Accor on a 25 year contract), 220,000 sq ft of offices, 158 residential units, 77,500 sq ft of retail and leisure units, a new town square and 43 affordable housing units.

(Actually the affordable housing has been shuffled off site and is not part of the development.)

When Mountgrange acquired the site in 2004, the Caltongate project only comprised three acres. Through negotiation with the local council, the Mountgrange team were able to secure additional land to increase the site to the current six acres. A strong vision and holistic approach to this quarter of the city ultimately resulted in strong executive support from the City Council officers for the scheme. The scheme is testament to Mountgrange’s acknowledged professionalism and experience given the challenge of a politically, environmentally and culturally sensitive development site.

Construction is set to begin in Autumn 2008 with a phased delivery over the next four years..."

So the council has happily flogged off three acres (and listed buildings) in return for - not a lot.

Although I wonder if the sale has actually gone through?


49

Buttress,

14/11/2008 12:20:02
"Still, can't think about that now, I am just imagining all the smug grins we have had to deal with over the year, and how they will be wiped away today..."


Yes!!! ;-)

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=436&storycode=3122138
50

Rap,

14/11/2008 13:14:28
Nice article, thank you! Oh finally, someone who writes something less than awe-inspired waffle about the "award winning architect". I'm biased, so I am bound to agree, but it is nice to see some balance. And the comment from both author and comment writer about the daft helicopter architecture needed to see the damn leaf shape is spot on.

"The scheme is testament to Mountgrange’s acknowledged professionalism and experience given the challenge of a politically, environmentally and culturally sensitive development site."

Yeah, so culturally sensitive that UNESCO are less than impressed with the knocking bits down and the sprawl of the new, larger site?

I wonder if timing is all, and if Caltongate had been going through for review now the decision may have been different from the Ministers?
51

Buttress,

14/11/2008 13:20:13
I suspect so. Last week I was sent a copy of report dated May this year from that well-known heritage consultant (!) Drivers Jonas, commissioned by Historic Scotland (rumoured cost eleven thou) which was possibly the clincher for why the Caltongate wasn't called in. Naturally it was all about how poor the listed buildings are and how much the city needs this development...

Too late to be able to argue about it, and that sort of biased rubbish should have been exposed at an inquiry.

Historic Scotland paying the piper and calling the tune do you think, to support/justify its bizarre stance over Caltongate?


52

Rap,

14/11/2008 13:44:42
Does sound a little, without libelling anyone of course, that evidence has appeared which now justifies their opinion. Convenient and a facesaver, though perhaps not for Drivers Jonas. What we need is a Scottish Dr Who, with a time machine.
53

Buttress,

14/11/2008 14:12:11
Of course, there's still the small matter of UNESCO.

It believes that under signed agreements it should have been notified of this development very early in the whole planning procedure. It wasn't.

I look forward to it asking the DCMS (which will then delegate it to HS) what it intends to do about that.

Some of the worst of what was planned for Liverpool was put a stop to by UNESCO.

Given that Chande of Mountgrange is such a big cheese with English Heritage, I wonder if a critical report might make him reconsider his plans for the site?







54

Rap,

14/11/2008 17:46:31
How did your buddies think their UNESCO meeting went? Did they get a feel for what may be suggested - although you have a good idea already from previous UNESCO comments, don't you?
55

Buttress,

15/11/2008 01:03:21
Haven't yet heard, I gather from someone else they aren't giving much away though!

How was your meeting?


56

Rap,

15/11/2008 12:51:48
Buttress,
I understand the two missionaries made notes and listened, but said little. They did seem rather surprised, and animated, that the original intention for the phallic hotel was something a little more restrained and public consultation was on a final height of 12 storeys, but it is now 17. They did say that the threat of being on the danger list is probably preferably to being on the danger list. And I believe someone explained that the award winning architects signature style is acontextualism, which you'd never guess from the design of this hotel or his own house of course, which blend in so delightfully with the environs in which they sit. Apart from that, nothing.
Report finished in December I believe, with formal publishing in June, but a good chance some of some feedback before that.
57

Buttress,

15/11/2008 14:12:38
Thanks for that.

Yes, but some like to talk the talk as a sop to the council...

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3121300


Money is a powerful reason to ignore what's right.

There are many excellent architects who can build new and sensitive, without buiding replica (although at times that can have a place).

Tiger wanted the max it could from the site. I suspect even it was surprised that this got the go-ahead. It's to do with the calibre of those making the decisons I think.

The game is (as with the St James's Centre and a proposed tower) go for something really daft that you didn't intend to build to divert attention, say OK and modify that when there are protests, then build something nasty but less so and say you have listened. As with Caltongate and the pend - which is not and never was one of the main issues.

Still, the Chamber of Commerce is about to put it all right again I see from another article today.

Sigh.

I have some suspicions that the call-in may (the threat of being on the danger list...) also have the dabs of the DCMS on it. Despite the daft comments of Neil Baxter this week (RIAS) planning where WHS is concerned isn't just for local people. If the process is failing then it will need to be corrected.

Progress is slow but there is some progress.
58

Buttress,

15/11/2008 14:18:12
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/An-open-letter-to-Richard.4447018.jp
59

Buttress,

15/11/2008 22:32:28
Here's the council spin:

http://www.carricktoday.co.uk/latest-scottish-news/Edinburghs-Unesco-status-safe.4698800.jp


The devil will be in the detail of what is raised.

 

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