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Published Date: 12 August 2008
SCIENTISTS have called for a trial on limiting the number of hen harriers on grouse moors, in an attempt to end the long-running conflict between conservationists and gamekeepers.
Dr Simon Thirgood and Professor Steve Redpath, of the Aberdeen Centre for Environmental Sustainability, said this could be the best way to improve the conservation status of hen harriers on grouse moors.

Prof Redpath said: "All moors can cope with some harriers, but few gamekeepers allow any of these predators to breed because of the fear that numbers will subsequently flourish.

"A ceiling scheme is a way of encouraging grouse managers to put an end to illegal killing of harriers, safe in the knowledge that numbers will not reach densities where they can threaten the viability of their grouse moors."

In a paper published in the British Ecological Society's Journal of Applied Ecology, the scientists propose a large-scale trial where a limit to harrier numbers on grouse moors could be agreed locally by interested parties, and additional birds could be moved to other areas.



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  • Last Updated: 11 August 2008 9:51 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Guga II,

Rockall 12/08/2008 03:39:11
So what they are saying is, kill off the Hen Harriers so that the toffs and the landed gentry don't have their grouse shooting spoiled.
2

Pilrig.,

Livingston 12/08/2008 05:36:43
1 - that's about the size of it.
3

,

12/08/2008 07:10:58
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
4

iain exile,

sweden 12/08/2008 07:37:30
This may be unpalatable, but it may be the only way to stop poisoning which impacts on golden eagles, red kites etc. Provided the chicks are relocated there is plenty of capacity for expansion of the population.
5

sam the god,

12/08/2008 08:26:13
#5 nomada

I am not a member of any of the above organisations as listed in your post however the rspb should be willing to try out this experiment as they did the exact opposite experiment on a moor in the borders. Or is the rspb scared that the figures might prove detrimental to the propaganda that they spout?
6

sam the god,

12/08/2008 08:26:37
happy days it is the glorious 12’th
7

sam the god,

12/08/2008 09:57:18
#9 nomada

how can I comment I have not seen Prof Redpath’s findings so I do not know if they are accurate I could say thati have done a survey and Hen Harriers numbers are way out of control but you would want details of that before you comment on it so I would like the same from Prof Redpath’s survey.

Also the rspb do not answer their e-mails I wonder if this is because the evidence will be damaging to them
8

sam the god,

12/08/2008 11:54:46
#11 nomada

it still does not alter the fact that what information I asked the rspb for by e-mail (so far asked the same question 5 times) they have not got back to me in any shape or form is this because they are afraid to make public the data for fear of someone finding fault with it.

Can you tell me when the open season on flying tamworths is and a rough location as you stated that you could see them out of the window. Nomada just keep taking the tablets and they will soon go away.
9

Boy Wonder,

12/08/2008 13:13:13
Why was my comment removed?? All I said was let's stop the grouse-shooters ... especially today (being the "Glorious Twelfth").

Did I upset some arist with pull at editorial???
10

Boy Wonder,

12/08/2008 13:13:23
*aristo
11

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 12/08/2008 14:36:06

Compromise,Compromise, Oh happy day! Compromise!

(I'm still waiting for your evidence NoneMadder! Or are you just a rumour monger and speaker of untruths, with an over-active imagination?). Did you ever come across the fable of The Boy Who Cried Wolf!?
12

Pilrig.,

Livingston 12/08/2008 16:43:15
As we all know it's the RSPB and their cohorts who do the poisoning.

They use a special chemical a UFO brought them from Mars.

 

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